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You can read what Arakhamia said about negotiations yourself if you want.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
So you are incorrect about everything. Good job.
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@TheDrAstrov That was in 2019 after Russia invaded in 2014 genius. Did you read my post? or are you just deliberately obtuse? I said prior to 2014, obviously after Russia invades its going to change the landscape. Here's the tenants of the Budapest memorandum because you seem confused, why don't you tell me which one Ukraine broke.
Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).
Refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories to the memorandum, and undertake that none of their weapons will ever be used against these countries, except in cases of self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
Not to use nuclear weapons against any non - nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a state in association or alliance with a nuclear weapon state.
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@TheDrAstrov I like how you didn't respond directly to me in hopes I wouldn't be able to respond to your lies. Here's what the Ukraine act of independence says, please tell me what Ukraine violated.
- Ukraine shall be declared an independent democratic state on August 24, 1991.
- Upon declaration of its independence, only its Constitution, laws, orders of the Government, and other legislative acts of the republic are valid on the territory of Ukraine.
- A republican referendum shall be organized on December 1, 1991 to confirm the act of declaration of independence.
-In view of the mortal danger surrounding Ukraine in connection with the state coup in the USSR on August 19, 1991,
-Continuing the thousand-year tradition of state development in Ukraine,
-Proceeding from the right of a nation to self-determination in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations and other international legal documents, and
-Implementing the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic solemnly declares.
-The territory of Ukraine is indivisible and inviolable.
-From this day forward, the Constitution and laws of Ukraine only are valid on the territory of Ukraine.
-This act comes into force upon its approval.
Stop spreading lies.
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@TheDrAstrov I just dont understand why you would lie about something so easy to google.
On March 10, 2014 the de facto Prime Minister of Crimea, Sergey Aksyonov, made an unofficial verbal invitation to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) to monitor the plebiscite.[ However, later in the day, an OSCE spokeswoman said that Crimea did not have the authority to invite the organization into the region as it is not a fully-fledged state and, therefore, incapable of requesting services provided exclusively to OSCE members. OSCE personnel already in Crimea were asked to leave by the pro-Russian authorities. On March 11, the OSCE chair, Switzerland's Foreign Minister Didier Burkhalter, declared the referendum as unconstitutional and therefore the OSCE would not send observers. OSCE military observers attempted to enter the region four times but were turned away, sometimes after warning shots were fired, which was another reason given for not dispatching referendum observers.
OSCE also published a report about their observations which "produced significant evidence of equipment consistent with the presence of Russian Federation military personnel in the vicinity of the various roadblocks encountered"
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@fred4687 Ukraine has implemented as much of Minsk as can reasonably be done while Russia still occupies its territory. The agreements require political measures on Ukraine’s side, including a special status for the region, an amnesty for those who committed crimes as part of the conflict, local elections, and some form of decentralization under the Ukrainian constitution. But the form of these measures is not specified, and Ukraine has already passed legislation addressing every point. It has passed – and extended with renewals – legislation on special status and amnesty, and already has legislation on the books governing local elections. It has passed constitutional amendments. The Minsk Agreements do not require Ukraine to grant autonomy to Donbas, or to become a federalized state. It is Russia’s unique interpretation that the measures passed by Ukraine are somehow insufficient, even though the agreements do not specify what details should be included, and Ukraine has already complied with what is actually specified to the degree it can.
What is lacking in Ukraine’s passage of these political measures is not the legislation per se, but implementation — which Russia itself prevents by continuing to occupy the territory. For example, international legal norms would never recognize the results of elections held under conditions of occupation, yet that is exactly what Russia seeks by demanding local elections before it relinquishes control. Moreover, the elections would not be for positions in the illegitimate LPR and DPR “governments” established under Russian occupation, but for the legitimate city councils, mayors, and oblast administrations that exist under Ukrainian law. Who would vote in such elections? Ukrainian law says all displaced citizens should vote. But would Russian occupation authorities allow this? These are matters for resolution under international supervision – not for Russia to dictate terms.
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@fred4687 So they annexed Crimea but didn't invade? And this makes sense to you? Moreover you are wrong about Russia not being involved in the Donbas. For starters Wagner was there, and in Putin's own words;
"Support for the entire Wagner group was fully provided by the state from the defense ministry, from the state budget, we fully funded the group."
Furthermore. After the takeover of Crimea, Wagner with some 300 PMCs went to the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine where a conflict started between Ukrainian government and pro-Russian forces. With their help, the pro-Russian forces were able to destabilize government security forces in the region, immobilize operations of local government institutions, seize ammunition stores and take control of towns. The PMCs conducted sneak attacks, reconnaissance, intelligence-gathering and accompanied VIPs. The Wagner Group PMCs reportedly took part in the June 2014 Il-76 airplane shoot-down at Luhansk International Airport and the early 2015 Battle of Debaltseve, which involved one of the heaviest artillery bombardments in recent history, as well as reportedly hundreds of regular Russian soldiers. Its time to rejoin reality, stop spreading lies.
Sources: Faulkner, Christopher (June 2022). Cruickshank, Paul; Hummel, Kristina (eds.). "Undermining Democracy and Exploiting Clients: The Wagner Group's Nefarious Activities in Africa" (PDF). CTC Sentinel. West Point, New York: Combating Terrorism Center. Butusov, Yurii (31 March 2016). "Mystery of Wagner's identity unfolded: he is Russian officer and head of large private military company in Russia, who eliminated Mozgovoy, Dremov, and other terrorist leaders, and now is fighting in Syria. Retrieved 18 September 2017. "Kremlin's mercenary armies kill in both Syrian, Ukrainian wars | – Ukraine's Global. Korotkov, Denis (16 October 2015). "Славянский корпус" возвращается в Сирию (in Russian. Retrieved 18 September 2017. "SBU exposes involvement of Russian 'Wagner PMC' headed by Utkin in destroying Il-76 in Donbas, Debaltseve events – Hrytsak". Interfax-Ukraine. 7 October 2017. Retrieved 7 October 2017.
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@yagsipcc287 Sergey Chemezov, CEO of the state-owned Rostec said about the economy. "There is no 20 percent profitability anywhere. Even the sale of weapons does not bring such a profit,"
"It is simply not profitable for enterprises to use borrowed funds, as I have already said many times. It is just that if we continue to work like this, then practically the majority of enterprises will go bankrupt," he said.
He warned that this situation could lead to "stagflation," referring to economic conditions of slow growth, high unemployment, and rising prices.
Chemezov's concerns echo those made recently by other Russian businessmen, who warn that the high borrowing costs could hamper economic growth. Nabiullina countered that lowering interest rates will lead to rampant inflation. So one of those is Russia's future, stagflation or hyperinflation.
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@yagsipcc287 Sergey Chemezov, CEO of the state-owned Rostec said about the economy. "It is simply not profitable for enterprises to use borrowed funds, as I have already said many times. It is just that if we continue to work like this, then practically the majority of enterprises will go bankrupt,"
He warned that this situation could lead to "stagflation," referring to economic conditions of slow growth, high unemployment, and rising prices.
His concerns echo those made recently by other businessmen, who warn that the high borrowing costs could hamper economic growth. Nabiullina countered, saying that lowering interest rates will lead to run away inflation. So one of those is Russia's future, stagflation or hyperinflation.
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@gfhomeNevashedelo Wagner was regular Russian forces. Putin admitted as much. "I want to point out and I want everyone to know about it: The maintenance of the entire Wagner Group was fully provided for by the state. From the Ministry of Defense, from the state budget, we fully financed this group.”
The Russian Federation initially denied that the 'little green men' in Crimea were Russian military forces, but on 17 April 2014 Russian President Vladimir Putin finally confirmed the presence of the Russian military. Furthermore, numerous sources, including Russian state media, have confirmed that the "little green men" were a mix of operatives from the Special Operations Forces and various other Spetsnaz GRU units. It likely also included paratroopers of the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade of the VDV, and Wagner Group military contractors.
These same 'little green men' were present in the Donbas. While their status as troops acting under the orders of the Russian government was continually denied, their nationality was not. Alexander Borodai, Prime Minister of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic, stated that 50,000 Russian citizens fought in the Donbas up to August 2015, and argued that they should receive the same benefits as Russia's other war veterans.
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@gfhomeNevashedelo The Russian Federation initially denied that the 'little green men' in Crimea were Russian military forces, but on 17 April 2014 Russian Putin finally confirmed the presence of the Russian military. Furthermore, numerous sources, including Russian state media, have confirmed that the "little green men" were a mix of operatives from the Special Operations Forces and various other Spetsnaz GRU units. It likely also included paratroopers of the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade of the VDV, and Wagner Group military contractors.
These same "Little green men" were present in the Donbas. While their status as troops acting under the orders of the Russian government was continually denied, their nationality was not. Alexander Borodai, Prime Minister of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic, stated that 50,000 Russian citizens fought in the Donbas up to August 2015, and argued that they should receive the same benefits as Russia's other war veterans.
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@gfhomeNevashedelo The Russian Federation initially denied that there were Russian forces in Crimea, but on 17 April 2014 Russian President Vladimir Putin finally confirmed the presence of the Russian military, these same LGM were present in the Donbas. Furthermore, numerous sources, including Russian state media, have confirmed that the "little green men" were a mix of operatives from the Special Operations Forces and various other Spetsnaz GRU units. It likely also included paratroopers of the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade of the VDV, and Wagner While their status as troops acting under the orders of the Russian government has been continually denied, just like Crimea, their nationality was not. Alexander Borodai, Prime Minister of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic, stated that 50,000 Russian citizens fought in the Donbas up to August 2015, and argued that they should receive the same benefits as Russia's other war veterans
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@alexeilebedev7462 I already address that conspiracy that is your first point in this thread, try reading before you comment.
Russia was supposed to withdraw its support for the rebels and withdraw its forces from Ukraine, they did neither. Russia violated Minsk on day one. Of course there would be no Minsk agreement if Russia hadn't violated the Budapest memorandum.
Ukraine had already decided not to make peace with the Russians before they spoke to any country because 1. They know an agreement with Russia isn't worth the paper its written on and 2. They saw what Russia did at Bucha and Irpin. You can read what Arakhamia said yourself if you want.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
So you are wrong about everything.
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