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"So, what is known about the crash of Il-76 as of 1830?
The plane crashed in the Belgorod region around 1100.
The first message that appeared in the Russian information space was that the plane was shot down by Russian air defense. Then, the emphasis abruptly changed to the shooting down by Ukrainian air defense, with the assertion that there were Ukrainian prisoners on board preparing for an exchange.
The first images that emerged from the crash site did not show a large number of dead bodies. Remember the MH-17 disaster. The entire field was strewn with the wreckage of the plane and the bodies of the dead. Or, at least, Yevgeny Prigozhin’s business jet, much smaller in size and with fewer passengers on board - the first footage from the crash site already contained the remains of passengers.
It is also obvious that the plane did not land, but rather took off from Belgorod. How can you bring prisoners for exchange to Belgorod if you are leaving it?
Then Margarita Simonyan appeared with a certain list of prisoners for exchange, which included Ukrainian military personnel who were exchanged on January 3.
It is also interesting that OSINT analysts confirmed the fact that the Il-76 aircraft was RA-78830, flew to Russia through Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iran, disappeared from radar in the
Syrian region, and then appeared in the Belgorod region. A very strange route for delivering captured Ukrainians, although it is also known that this aircraft actively took part in the “Iranian Express”.
A question also arose regarding the Russian Ministry of Defense’s statement that only 3 guards accompanied 65 prisoners on board. This is critically low for such a number of prisoners and completely violates the statutory documents.
5 hours after the fall of the Il-76, a new video appeared from the crash site, which showed a piece of the fuselage with a large number of minor damages, which confirmed the downing of a missile defense missile, but, again, even 5 hours later, the bodies of the supposedly dead Ukrainian prisoners were not shown .
In view of all of the above, the version of the Russians with prisoners of war on board the Il-76 is collapsing every minute like a crystal castle. But the danger lies elsewhere.
They officially stated that prisoners of war were on board. As of 18:30, not a single material evidence of this has been presented, although it is very important for Russian propaganda to show that their official bodies are right.
Against this background, fears arise that Russian terrorists may be preparing this “material evidence”...
Alexander Kovalenko"-Crimean Wind
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"So, what is known about the crash of Il-76 as of 1830?
The plane crashed in the Belgorod region around 1100.
The first message that appeared in the Russian information space was that the plane was shot down by Russian air defense. Then, the emphasis abruptly changed to the shooting down by Ukrainian air defense, with the assertion that there were Ukrainian prisoners on board preparing for an exchange.
The first images that emerged from the crash site did not show a large number of dead bodies. Remember the MH-17 disaster. The entire field was strewn with the wreckage of the plane and the bodies of the dead. Or, at least, Yevgeny Prigozhin’s business jet, much smaller in size and with fewer passengers on board - the first footage from the crash site already contained the remains of passengers.
It is also obvious that the plane did not land, but rather took off from Belgorod. How can you bring prisoners for exchange to Belgorod if you are leaving it?
Then Margarita Simonyan appeared with a certain list of prisoners for exchange, which included Ukrainian military personnel who were exchanged on January 3.
It is also interesting that OSINT analysts confirmed the fact that the Il-76 aircraft was RA-78830, flew to Russia through Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iran, disappeared from radar in the
Syrian region, and then appeared in the Belgorod region. A very strange route for delivering captured Ukrainians, although it is also known that this aircraft actively took part in the “Iranian Express”.
A question also arose regarding the Russian Ministry of Defense’s statement that only 3 guards accompanied 65 prisoners on board. This is critically low for such a number of prisoners and completely violates the statutory documents.
5 hours after the fall of the Il-76, a new video appeared from the crash site, which showed a piece of the fuselage with a large number of minor damages, which confirmed the downing of a missile defense missile, but, again, even 5 hours later, the bodies of the supposedly dead Ukrainian prisoners were not shown .
In view of all of the above, the version of the Russians with prisoners of war on board the Il-76 is collapsing every minute like a crystal castle. But the danger lies elsewhere.
They officially stated that prisoners of war were on board. As of 18:30, not a single material evidence of this has been presented, although it is very important for Russian propaganda to show that their official bodies are right.
Against this background, fears arise that Russian terrorists may be preparing this “material evidence”...
Alexander Kovalenko" -Crimean Wind
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@bbasleigh6149 Russia retreated from Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and Kherson. Its called winning people!
Next Russia captures a mid sized town a few miles across the border in just under a year with only 100k casualties, just ignore the flanks collapsing. Next up its trench warfare that never ends, unless Ukraine breaks them with the 1,085 Tanks, 4,185 AFVs, 2,000 HMMWVs and 870 Artillery that they've acquired recently.
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@imsroy Russia retreated from Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and Kherson. Its called winning people!
Next Russia captures a mid sized town a few miles across the border in just under a year with only 100k casualties, just ignore the flanks collapsing. Next up its trench warfare that never ends, unless Ukraine breaks them with the 1,085 Tanks, 4,185 AFVs, 2,000 HMMWVs and 870 Artillery that they've acquired recently
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@Truffle_Young_Jr Here i what Arakhamia actually said. “First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
It was after this that they spoke to Johnson after the deal had already been refused. Do you understand?
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@Truffle_Young_Jr The Minsk Agreements do not require Ukraine to grant autonomy to Donbas, or to become a federalized state. It is Russia’s unique interpretation that the measures passed by Ukraine are somehow insufficient, even though the agreements do not specify what details should be included, and Ukraine has already complied with what is actually specified to the degree it can.
What is lacking in Ukraine’s passage of these political measures is not the legislation, but implementation which Russia itself prevented by continuing to occupy the territory. For example, international legal norms would never recognize the results of elections held under conditions of occupation, yet that is exactly what Russia seeks by demanding local elections before it relinquished control. Moreover, the elections would not be for positions in the illegitimate LPR and DPR “governments” established under Russian occupation, but for the legitimate city councils, mayors, and oblast administrations that exist under Ukrainian law. Who would vote in such elections? Ukrainian law says all displaced citizens should vote. But would Russian occupation authorities allow this? These are matters for resolution under international supervision, not for Russia to dictate terms.
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@binbi8177 China's real estate market is collapsing (30% of their economy) Exports is collapsing (20% of their economy) Internal consumption is way down. China has been dumping steel at a loss and is only able to continue due to massive government subsidies. Manufacturing has moved to India, Mexico Vietnam. Even the US is going through the fastest industrialization in its history, including WW2.
Li Keqiang, head of the Communist Party in northeastern Liaoning province at the time said China's GDP figures are "man-made" and therefore unreliable. He Keng, former deputy head of the statistics bureau said housing in China might be overbuilt by 300%. and most of that is 'tofu dreg' construction that is never meant to be lived in, the entire thing is just a scam to keep steel and concrete production up. Chinese people are paying mortgages on them though going into massive debt.
In 2022 China had a higher GDP to debt load than the US by over 40%, and its still classified as a developing country, they aren't even rich yet. US GDP per capita is 80,412.41. while its only 18187.98 US dollars in 2022, when adjusted by purchasing power parity in China. (and according the China the GDP numbers are made up so who know's what it actually is)
Youth unemployment is around 40%, its so bad they cant even make up numbers to make it look reasonable like they do with GDP so they stopped counting it.
Oh and their rockets are full of water instead of rocket fuel. But sure, China is booming just ask them.
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@Truffle_Young_Jr Some form of neutral peacekeeping or policing force could help bridge between Russian control and Ukrainian control of the occupied territory, but Russia rejected such proposals. Because of the impossibility of Ukraine implementing political measures while Russia still occupies its territory, the United States as well as Ukraine, with support from others proposed deployment of an UN mandated peacekeeping force to Donbas, so that Russian forces could withdraw, and an UN backed force could deploy, without an immediate hand-over to Ukrainian control. This could allow time and space for local elections to occur, and for the implementation of special status and amnesty legislation. Russia, however, has consistently rejected such proposals, even labeling an UN supported peacekeeping force a “military takeover” of the region, when of course it is Russia that has actually taken over the region militarily and unilaterally.
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п They don't love you. Why lie about something that's so easy to google? (copy paste from wiki it goes on to further describe the horrors that the Tartars had to endure from Russia but I'll stick to the first paragraph)
The deportation of the Crimean Tatars (Crimean Tatar: Qırımtatar halqınıñ sürgünligi, Cyrillic: Къырымтатар халкъынынъ сюргюнлиги) or the Sürgünlik ('exile') was the ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide of at least 191,044 Crimean Tatars carried out by the Soviet authorities from 18 to 20 May 1944, which was supervised by Lavrentiy Beria, head of Soviet state security and the secret police, and which was ordered by the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin. Within those three days, the NKVD used cattle trains to deport mostly women, children, and the elderly, even Communist Party members and Red Army members, to mostly the Uzbek SSR, several thousand kilometres away. They were one of the several ethnicities who were subjected to Stalin's policy of population transfer in the Soviet Union.
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@againstviralmisinformation510 You know they've been keeping track of the ships attacked right? You should try reading the news instead of just watching it. They've hit ships en route from Turkey to Indonesia, one from from Singapore to Egypt, one from Greece to Singapore, Saudi Arabia to Réunion island, another Saudi Arabia to UAE, Romania to India, Russia to who knows where, India or China. Another from Malaysia to Italy, India to Egypt, Morocco to India, and one from Dubai to the far east.
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Russia retreated from Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and Kherson. Its called winning people!
Next Russia captures a mid sized town a few miles across the border in just under a year with only 100k casualties, just ignore the flanks collapsing. Next up its trench warfare that never ends, unless Ukraine breaks them with the 1,085 Tanks, 4,185 AFVs, 2,000 HMMWVs and 870 Artillery that they've acquired recently
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@williamalexander9485 "According to United Nations experts, in less than a year Islamic State–affiliated groups doubled the territory they control in Mali. In early September 2023, suspected jihadists killed scores of people in the country. In Sudan, violence involving security forces, other armed groups, and rival ethnic communities persisted in many parts of the country throughout 2022. This violence culminated in a widespread conflict between two of the forces behind the coup, the Sudan Armed Forces and the Rapid Support Forces, in April 2023. The conflict has led to thousands of civilian deaths, the displacement of millions, and a humanitarian crisis. Despite a robust military air campaign and mass recruitment for the civilian defense forces, dozens of soldiers and civilians have been killed by suspected rebels in Burkina Faso, which also faces the worst humanitarian crisis in its history."
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@againstviralmisinformation510 There are few organizations in all of human history as embarrassing as the Russian Navy. are you sure you want to play this game? All of these are from the Russian Federation but I would be remis if I didn't mention the crash of a Tu-104A that was carrying many of the Pacific Fleet's senior officers from Leningrad. resulting in the death of all 50 people on board, including 28 high-ranking Soviet military personnel. Among the dead were 16 admirals and generals, including the commander of the Pacific Fleet, Admiral Emil Spiridonov, and his wife. Yikes, I cant even imagine the type of terminal brain damage that led to putting that much brass on a single flight.
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May - first of a series of five ammunition explosions at Pacific Fleet ammunition storage arsenals, 1992-2003.
1994 – Four conscripts in the Pacific Fleet died of a stomach infection due to malnutrition.
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22 September – A nuclear submarine had its electricity cut by an electricity company at a naval base due to unpaid bills. The submarine's cooling system ceased to function and the reactor "came close to meltdown".
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16 June – A fuel leak from a missile poisoned 11 servicemen at a naval base in Primorsky Krai.
21 February – A Russian Navy Antonov An-26, crashes 1.5 km short of runway at Lakhta Airfield, near Archangelsk, during an emergency landing. Of the 20 people on board, 17 were killed.
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30 August – The decommissioned November-class nuclear-powered submarine K-159 sank while it was being towed to Polyarny, Murmansk Oblast in the Barents Sea to be stripped of its nuclear reactors. Nine crew members died.
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5 August – AS-28, under the command of Lieutenant Vyacheslav Milashevskiy, became entangled with the aerial of a hydrophone array off the coast of Kamchatka, in Berezovaya Bay, 70 km southeast of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy. The aerial, anchored by 60-tonne concrete blocks, snared the propeller of the submarine, and the submarine then sank to the seafloor at a depth of 190 m (600 ft). This was too deep for the ship's complement of seven to leave the submarine and swim to the surface. On August 7, all seven sailors were rescued with the help of the United States Navy and the Royal Navy
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7 September – A fire broke out in the submarine, Daniil Moskovsky, as it was being towed across the Barents Sea to Vidyayevo, Murmansk Oblast. Two on board died.
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8 November – The Akula II-class submarine K-152 Nerpa's freon fire extinguishing system was accidentally activated, killing 20 and injuring at least 22 people. The incident occurred while the submarine was conducting sea trials off the Russian Pacific coast.
7 January – A small fire broke out on board the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov while anchored off Turkey. The fire, caused by a short circuit, led to the death of one crew member from carbon monoxide poisoning. On 16 February 2009, along with other Russian naval vessels, she was involved in a large oil spill while refueling off the south coast of Ireland.
March – A fire broke out on the hull of the decommissioned nuclear submarine Orenburg, a Delta III-class submarine while at the Severodvinsk docks in Arkhangelsk Oblast.
4 May – A Kamov Ka-27 Helicopter landing on the frigate Yaroslav Mudry, crashed on the deck and then rolled over the side into the Baltic Sea. The 5 crew from the helicopter were successfully rescued.
October – Another blaze occurred during the decommissioning of the nuclear submarine, Kazan at Severodvinsk.
6 November – A Russian Naval Aviation Tupolev Tu-142 M3 from the 310th Independent Long Range Anti-Submarine Aviation Regiment based at Kamenny Ruchey Airbase, Khabarovsk Krai crashed on a routine training exercise into the Tatar Strait near Sakhalin island 15–20 km from the coast off Cape Datta north of Sovetskaya Gavan with the loss of all 11 crew.
February – A blaze broke out on the decommissioned nuclear submarine K-480 Ak Bars, at Severodvinsk. Casualties unknown.
29 December – The Delta-IV-class nuclear submarine, Ekaterinburg, caught fire while in dry-dock in the Roslyakovo shipyard, north of Murmansk. The blaze broke out on scaffolding that had been erected around it. The rubber outer hull was badly burnt and nine people were injured fighting the fire. No radiation leak was detected.
16 September – 15 sailors were injured after a fire broke out on the nuclear submarine K-150 Tomsk at a shipyard near Vladivostok. Officials claimed the nuclear reactor was "deactivated" prior to the fire.
7 April – Orel, an Oscar II-class submarine, caught fire during repairs in a dry dock in the Severodvinsk shipyard. No casualties have been reported and the nuclear reactor had been turned off before the fire started. The submarine entered service in 1992.
29 April – The decommissioned Soviet-era nuclear submarine K-173 Krasnoyarsk caught fire while being disassembled in Vilyuchinsk, Kamchatka. The Defence Ministry reported that its rubber-coated outer hull caught fire. The vessel had been built in 1983 and launched in 1986 as part of the Soviet Union’s Pacific Fleet.
14 November – A MiG-29K crashed in the Mediterranean while attempting to land on the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov.[76] The pilot safely ejected. The plane was on a training mission for the Russian military intervention in Syria.
3 December - A Su-33 based on Admiral Kuznetsov crashed while making a second landing attempt after a combat sortie over Syria. The pilot survived without injuries and was immediately recovered by search and rescue teams. According to the Russian Ministry of Defence, the plane was lost after an arresting cable ruptured.
27 April – Russian spy ship Liman sank off the Turkish coast, 29 km from Kilyos, after colliding with a freighter in fog. All 78 crew members were rescued.
30 October – The aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov was damaged while undergoing a refit: the dry dock sank, sending a 70-tonne crane crashing onto the ship and causing a 5m gash. One ship-worker went missing and four required medical care after falling into the sea near Murmansk.
1 July – A navy research submersible, thought to be AS-12 Losharik, suffered a fire and 14 crew members died due to fume inhalation. The vessel had been conducting research in Russia's Arctic territorial waters, according to the Defence Ministry, though Russian media reports said it was a nuclear mini-submarine deployed in special operations.
12 December – The aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, caught fire during repair work at Murmansk. Six were injured and one person was reported missing.
14 April – The battleship Moskva sank in the Black Sea during hostilities with Ukraine following a fire, as claimed by Russian authorities. Ukraine claimed it sank the ship with a missile. Officially Russia admitted one sailor died, but independent reports suggested 40 may have perished.
22 December – The Admiral Kuznetsov caught fire again while on repair work in Murmansk. The fire was extinguished rapidly and no casualties were reported
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@PropagandaBurnerV Oh its emoji boy. Why don't you go ahead and list all the countries NATO has annexed. And if you cant understand the difference maybe you should get a basic education before making foolish posts.
Moreover your initial premise is wrong, NATO conducted air operations over Yugo followed by peace keeping. Afghanistan, which was in response to September 11, combat operations were over in weeks after that was occupation. And a no fly zone over Libya. Learn some history.
Meanwhile the Russian Federation in no particular order.
Georgian Civil War, South Ossetian War, Russian intervention in Syria, War of Dagestan, First Chechen war, Second Chechen war, Tajikistani Civil War Transnistria War, War in Abkhazia, Russian invasion of the Donbas/Crimea, Russo-Georgian War, Central African Republic Civil War, Mali War, Russo-Ukrainian War.
These were obnoxious but nobody really cared until Russia started annexing sovereign states. Do you understand?
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@s0ycapitan Well ignoring the time he said we should nuke hurricane Dorian he also said;
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"
He continued.
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
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@s0ycapitan And also.
"Gettysburg, what an unbelievable battle that was. It was so much, and so interesting, and so vicious and horrible, and so beautiful in so many different ways—it represented such a big portion of the success of this country," he continued.
"Gettysburg, wow—I go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, to look and to watch," he said. "And the statement of Robert E. Lee, who's no longer in favor—did you ever notice it? He's no longer in favor. 'Never fight uphill, me boys, never fight uphill.' They were fighting uphill, he said, 'Wow, that was a big mistake,' he lost his big general. 'Never fight uphill, me boys,' but it was too late,"
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According to Cluster Munition Monitor 2022, the list of 16 countries that refuse to sign the convention and who produce cluster munitions included Brazil, China, Egypt, Greece, Iran, Israel, India, North Korea, Pakistan, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, the United States and Turkey.
You need to get your info straight.
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@Injun-b2q This is some serious cope right here. If Russia isn't trying to capture Bakhmut then why are they frantically trying to capture Bakhmut? Human wave assaults for 10 months. Somewhere north of 5-1 casualties in favor of Ukraine. Or do you think defenders advantage no longer exists, for the first war ever? Russia was desperate to capture it before May 9 so they had some sort of W they could point to. Typically when you invade a country you don't want to engage in trench warfare that never ends.
Imagine if the US invaded Mexico then 40 miles in they were stopped and started digging trenches and resurrected the M26 Pershing and said; "everything is going according to plan you just dont understand tactics" please. what's happening right now is Russia's worst nightmare, do you think they want to dust off T54's and Scooby Doo vans?
A complete humiliation for the self proclaimed world #2 army. Even Russian state media is all doom and gloom lately and its their job to lie about the war.
How about when Russia retreated from Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and Kherson? Is that an example of Russia "Dominating the battlefield" Let me guess you think them retreating was a gesture of goodwill. How about losing Izium, the main supply hub in the area, by some accounts the Ukrainians captured more equipment then they started the war with. The fact that Russia STILL cant get air superiority despite having every advantage. But they are incapable of basic SEAD never mind large scale air operations.
And I dont know what your obsession with some Vietnamese guy in a hole is. I said i'm not American. Who's defending the Vietnam war? Or is this just more braindead whataboutism, which is what every Russian argument boils down to. And you realize its not 1969 anymore right? the US army has changed. Vietnam is a good example of how you can win every battle and still lose the war. Look up the Russo-Japanese war if you want to see some real humiliation, or the Russo-Polish war, or the First Chechen war, the point is there's no shortage of Russian military humiliations (Ukraine war included)
As for Afghanistan the war was over in a matter of weeks, there hadn't been an attack on coaltion forces in years. Taliban were all in their hidey holes in the other Stans. The US could have left any time after they got Bin Laden and declared victory. You also realize Russia got smoked so bad in Afghanistan it collapsed their whole damn empire right?
Lets compare casualties in Afghanistan just for fun.
USSR: About 15,000 KIA Soviets.
Civilians: About 2,000,000 All in 10 years.
US: 2,402 KIA
Civilians: About 46,319 civilians in 20 years, though an estimated at least 1,010-1,297 Afghan civilians were directly killed by U.S./NATO actions.
US may not be perfect but at least they try, Russia will engage in reprisal killings and directly target civillians.
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@ntf5211 Russia retreated from Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and Kherson. Its called winning people!
Next Russia captures a mid sized town a few miles across the border in just under a year with only 100k casualties, pretend the flanks aren't collapsing. Next up its trench warfare that never ends, unless Ukraine breaks them with the 1,085 Tanks, 4,185 AFVs, 2,000 HMMWVs and 870 Artillery that they've acquired recently.
Oh and the shovel thing came from an ISW report saying they were armed with Rifles and shovels, mostly to highlight the lack of heavy support. Its only people with reading comprehension difficulty like yourself who spout otherwise.
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Top 5 oil producing countries 2023. I'm not sure what you are talking about.
1. United States
Production: 20,213,000 bpd
2. Saudi Arabia
Production: 12,144,000 bpd
3. Russia
Production: 10,938,000 bpd
4. Canada
Production: 5,694,000 bpd
5. China
Production: 5,119,000 bpd
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@SeanD808 Shoigu was a reindeer herder and Putin's fishing buddy.
Before being the chief of staff of the army Milley earned his commission as an armor officer through Princeton's Army Reserve Officers' Training Corps program. Milley's career has included assignments with the 82nd Airborne Division, 5th Special Forces Group, 7th Infantry Division, 2nd Infantry Division, Joint Readiness Training Center, 25th Infantry Division, Operations Staff of the Joint Staff, and a posting as Military Assistant to the Secretary of Defense.
Milley has held multiple command and staff positions in eight divisions and special forces throughout his military career. He commanded 1st Battalion, 506th Infantry, 2nd Infantry Division, in South Korea from 1996 to 1998. He served as commander of 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light) from December 2003 to July 2005; deputy commanding general for operations of the 101st Airborne Division from July 2007 to April 2008, and as commanding general of the 10th Mountain Division from November 2011 to December 2012. Milley commanded III Corps, based at Fort Hood, Texas, from December 2012 to August 2014, and concurrently the International Security Assistance Force Joint Command from May 2013 to February 2014. He served as the commanding general of the United States Army Forces Command at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, from August 2014 to August 2015.
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@dogpoofairy2517 “Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down, you know; I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio and my daughter, Ivanka, who was so impactful on that issue.… But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about that because the childcare is childcare, couldn’t, you know, there’s something you have to have it, in this country you have to have it.”
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@mistressfreezepeach Are you talking about Arakhamia? Here is what he actually said.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
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@Frostchris4121 Only thirteen present-day independent countries escaped formal colonization by European powers: Afghanistan, Bhutan, China, Iran, Japan, Liberia, Mongolia, Nepal, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Thailand, and Turkey as well as Yemen.
The point I was trying to make that went over your head is that Europe colonized everywhere so if they are blamed for every bad thing that ever happened on Earth they also get credit for all the good things right?
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@yaqob3275 Is whataboutism all you can do. Here watch me.
I wish they did that with Central African Republic, Syria, The Donbas, Dagestan,
Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, North Ossetia-Alania, Abkhazia, Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Transnistria, Georgia, Afghanista, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Albania. Before Russia invaded those countries 😆🤣
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@Victoratify The US alone provided over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles including 7,000 tanks, 11,400 aircraft and 1.75 million tons of food. This doesn't include the mountain of metals and chemicals sent.
The UK provided the Soviets with. 7,411 aircraft, 27 naval vessels
5,218 tanks, 5,000 anti-tank guns
4,020 ambulances and trucks
323 machinery trucks (mobile vehicle workshops equipped with generators and all the welding and power tools required to perform heavy servicing)
1,212 Universal Carriers and Loyd Carriers (with another 1,348 from Canada)
1,721 motorcycles
£1.15bn worth of aircraft engines
1,474 radar sets, 4,338 radio sets
600 naval radar and sonar sets, Hundreds of naval guns, 15 million pairs of boots
In total 4 million tonnes of war material including food and medical supplies were delivered. The munitions totaled £308m (not including naval munitions supplied), the food and raw materials totaled £120m in 1946 index. In accordance with the Anglo-Soviet Military Supplies Agreement of June 27, 1942, military aid sent from Britain to the Soviet Union during the war was entirely free of charge.
Some of the 3,000 Hurricanes given to Soviets were broken up & buried after the war to avoid paying US back under the Lend-Lease legislation.
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@yaqob3275 Russia retreated from Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and Kherson. Its called winning people!
Next Russia captures a mid sized town a few miles across the border in just under a year with only 100k casualties, just ignore the flanks collapsing. Next up its trench warfare that never ends, unless Ukraine breaks them with the 1,085 Tanks, 4,185 AFVs, 2,000 HMMWVs and 870 Artillery that they've acquired recently
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@balern4 It has abstained from successive votes in the UN Security Council, General Assembly, and Human Rights Council that condemned Russian aggression in Ukraine and thus far has refused to openly call out Russia as the instigator of the crisis.
Indian strategic elites would admit that their country’s diplomatic neutrality ultimately signifies what one Indian scholar has called “a subtle pro-Moscow position.” This seems particularly incongruous today because India stands shoulder-to-shoulder with the United States in opposing Chinese assertiveness in the Indo-Pacific while at the same time appearing tolerant of the vastly more egregious Russian belligerence in Europe.
New Delhi chose to convey its dismay about Moscow’s breach of international norms, but it focused disproportionately on the humanitarian catastrophe produced by the crisis while consistently avoiding the larger issue of adjudicating the aggression.
India’s tightrope walk on the Ukraine war has been described as “strategic ambivalence.” Far from it—it actually reflects New Delhi’s deliberate choice, even if a constrained one. This decision to steer clear of publicly condemning Russia is shaped not by abstract concerns about the integrity of the world order but by purposeful Indian calculations about how alienating Russia might undermine its security.
India’s posture today remains fundamentally consistent with its past forbearance in the face of previous Russian aggression, for example, in Hungary in 1956, in Czechoslovakia in 1968, and in Afghanistan in 1979. Despite this last crisis having subverted India’s regional environment for forty years and counting, New Delhi has been excessively charitable when calling out Russian misdemeanors, a courtesy that historically has never been equally extended to the United States.
India’s continuing dependence on Russia for military equipment only deepens its reluctance to alienate Moscow in any way. This aspect has received widespread attention since the beginning of the Ukraine war, but it is ultimately secondary to the larger calculations that center on preserving strong ties with Russia as part of India’s efforts to both balance China while constraining Pakistan and realize a multipolar system where it cannot be hemmed in by any excessively powerful states. All the same, New Delhi’s current dependence on Moscow for the spares and support necessary to maintain its large inventory of Russian-origin military equipment is real.
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@FufuFufy-df8pk The invasion began as Russia invaded and annexed Crimea. Armed Russian-backed separatists, along with Wagner, seized Ukrainian government buildings and declared the LPR/DPR as independent states, leading to conflict with Ukrainian government forces. Quite the coincidence that Russia's invasion of Crimea coincided with the Donbas rebellion. Its almost as if Russia was responsible for both of them. Russia covertly supported the separatists with troops and weaponry. It only admitted sending "military specialists", but later acknowledged the separatists as Russian combat veterans
Wagner (who have been in the Donbas since the start of the conflict in 2014) were also a branch of the Russian military. Putin stated, “I want to point out and I want everyone to know about it: The maintenance of the entire Wagner Group was fully provided for by the State.”
Speaking first about the fighting in eastern Ukraine that began in 2014 after Russia's military intervention, Prigozhin said: "We were hitting them, and they were hitting us. That's how it went on for those eight long years, from 2014 to 2022. Sometimes the number of skirmishes would increase, sometimes decrease."
Girkin admitted that this action sparked the Donbas War. He said "I'm the one who pulled the trigger of war. If our unit hadn't crossed the border, everything would have fizzled out, like in Kharkiv, like in Odessa".
Its time to rejoin reality bud, stop with the revisionist history.
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@michaelotieno6524 That's not what Stalin and Khrushchev said. And it was a lot more than just trucks. The US and UK provided the Soviets with a staggering amount of tanks, aircraft, trucks, ammunition etc. You can read about the aid provided, its not top secret, not sure why you think its only trucks.
"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."
Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.
"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war."
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@dameinoferrall2400 Russia has lost more in a year and a half in this war then the US lost in both those wars combined, along with every war since. Vietnam is a good example that you can win almost every battle and still lose the war. Russian victories in this war are few and far between. Russia is not the Soviet Union, them acting like they can play in the same league with the US is embarrassing. The message received is that the Russian military is even more corrupt and incompetent than anyone thought.
Prior to Russia's 2022 invasion Putin was winning. He'd taken Crimea, he could have continued supplying and supporting the rebels in the east as he pressed on with the undermining of NATO and the EU. All for minimal consequences. The 2022 invasion undid all of that along with getting half of Russia's army destroyed and exposing it as ineffectual. Russia's been sanctioned to oblivion as a result of its invasion, it has returned their economy to 90's level nose dive.
The primary reason Russia invaded is that Ukraine discovered gas deposits and Russia didn't want to lose its energy monopoly in Europe. Now Russian hydrocarbon revenue is down 70% since the start of the war, most revenue they get is in the form of Yuan or Rupees which severely limit Russia's options. They've had to ban the export of refined product because of price hikes and shortages in Russia. The Ruble is in the toilet and the only reason it hasn't fallen off the map completely is strict monetary controls forcing Russian businesses to sell off their foreign reserves and buy Rubles. The state is doing the same, this is a non sustainable measure. The interest rate has been set at a punishing 15% to try to combat inflation, it isn't working and interest rates will likely continue to rise. Any 'growth' you hear about is because Russia raised the VAT tax on Russian citizens and imports, all of that revenue goes straight back into the war effort, not something that generates wealth.
This invasion has been a complete disaster for Russia no matter how you try to spin it. You are correct about Poland though, they at the very least remember what Russian occupation is like and don't want to repeat it.
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'Stable genius' Trump does some more rambling, he must be worried about starting WW2.
"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
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@stefan289 Because Russia had already invaded and annexed their territory, obviously they didn't trust them. That doesn't change the fact that Ukraine had done everything required of them from Minsk, while Russia hadn't. Would you trust Russia if they violated multiple agreements and invaded and annexed your territory, after promising not to? Of course they wanted to buy time, that is irrelevant to what transpired though. If Russia would have followed through on its end of the deal, like Ukraine did and wanted Russia to do, Ukraine would have had all the time in the world, because the conflict would be over.
Do you think a comment made by Merkel seven years after the fact played any role in Russia's decision not to uphold their end of the agreement? The next step in the process after the legislation/amendments were passed by Ukraine, according to the agreement, was Russia leave Ukraine, they failed to do this. If they had left Ukraine's preparations for war would have been for nothing because according to Minsk Russia was supposed to leave and all illegal military groups were to be disbanded, there would have been nothing for Ukraine to fight. Obviously this didn't happen.
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@PropagandaBurnerV I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, get a grown up to explain what annexation means. And get one to show you where I tried defending any of the Wests operations in the Middle East (I didn't) Its been one disaster after another in the ME, aside from Afghanistan which any sane person would considered justified, including Russia (more on that later if you manage to read any of this, I know its hard.) Do you really think whataboutism is a good argument? Well the Russian's invaded Hungary therefore Vietnam was justified. See how silly that is?
Good job cherry picking one conflict on the list, not sure if you noticed but there was more than one. Nobody cared that much about any of them, they were annoying. (I said this in my first post, keep working on your reading comprehension, you'll get it!) It was only when they started annexing countries that anybody gave af.
The US lost interest in Afghanistan, they occupied them in a few weeks and the Taliban spent twenty years hiding in caves. There hadn't been an attack on coalition forces in years. If after twenty years the ANA weren't able to fight for themselves they never would be able to. If you think Afghanistan was problematic you should talk to Russia, it was only because they allowed coalition logistics to use their airspace and railroads that it was possible. If you want to see what actual defeat in Afghanistan looks like refer to Russia's invasion, they got smoked so hard their whole country collapsed.
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@lg2058 Wrong again, the Istanbul talks were well after the ones I mentioned, you have no clue about the history of the conflict, and you are misrepresenting what was said. Here's what Arakhamia (the guy who's mouth you are putting words in ) actually said. “First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
This was all well after the Belarus negotiations. where Deputy Kremlin Chief of Staff Dmitry Kozak said he had negotiated an agreement with Ukraine within a few days of the invasion, a deal that Putin refused, as stated by the Kremlin itself.
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@Männtashsh-Pyrre-m9o There is nothing in Ukraine's declaration of sovereignty or constitution that has anything to do with Russia. Which part of the Belovezh Accords did Ukraine violate? as far as I can see it was Russia violating Ukraine's independence in 2014 that violated the treaty.
The end of the existence of the USSR, with the "setting up of lawfully constituted democratic… independent states… on the basis of mutual recognition of and respect for State sovereignty".
Establishing on the territory the "right to self-determination" along with "norms relating to human and people’s rights".
"Parties guarantee to their citizens, regardless of their nationality or other differences, equal rights and freedoms. Each of the Parties guarantees to the citizens of the other Parties, and also to stateless persons resident in their territory, regardless of national affiliation or other differences, civil, political, social, economic and cultural rights and freedoms in accordance with the universal recognized international norms relating to human rights"
"The Parties, desirous of facilitating the expression, preservation and development of the distinctive ethnic, cultural, linguistic and religious characteristics of the national minorities resident in their territories and of the unique ethno-cultural regions that have come into being, will extend protection to them"
"Equitable cooperation"
"Territorial integrity" along with "freedom of movement of citizens"
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@RUTHLESSambition5
"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war." - Joseph Stalin
Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.
"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."
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@michaeljennings3207 Wrong again. Here's what Arakhamia actually said.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief.
Also, when we returned from Istanbul [after the failed negotiations], Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them and would just fight.
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You can read what Arakhamia said about negotiations yourself if you want.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
So you are incorrect about everything. Good job.
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@TheDrAstrov That was in 2019 after Russia invaded in 2014 genius. Did you read my post? or are you just deliberately obtuse? I said prior to 2014, obviously after Russia invades its going to change the landscape. Here's the tenants of the Budapest memorandum because you seem confused, why don't you tell me which one Ukraine broke.
Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).
Refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories to the memorandum, and undertake that none of their weapons will ever be used against these countries, except in cases of self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
Not to use nuclear weapons against any non - nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a state in association or alliance with a nuclear weapon state.
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@TheDrAstrov I like how you didn't respond directly to me in hopes I wouldn't be able to respond to your lies. Here's what the Ukraine act of independence says, please tell me what Ukraine violated.
- Ukraine shall be declared an independent democratic state on August 24, 1991.
- Upon declaration of its independence, only its Constitution, laws, orders of the Government, and other legislative acts of the republic are valid on the territory of Ukraine.
- A republican referendum shall be organized on December 1, 1991 to confirm the act of declaration of independence.
-In view of the mortal danger surrounding Ukraine in connection with the state coup in the USSR on August 19, 1991,
-Continuing the thousand-year tradition of state development in Ukraine,
-Proceeding from the right of a nation to self-determination in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations and other international legal documents, and
-Implementing the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine, the Verkhovna Rada of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic solemnly declares.
-The territory of Ukraine is indivisible and inviolable.
-From this day forward, the Constitution and laws of Ukraine only are valid on the territory of Ukraine.
-This act comes into force upon its approval.
Stop spreading lies.
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@TheDrAstrov I just dont understand why you would lie about something so easy to google.
On March 10, 2014 the de facto Prime Minister of Crimea, Sergey Aksyonov, made an unofficial verbal invitation to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) to monitor the plebiscite.[ However, later in the day, an OSCE spokeswoman said that Crimea did not have the authority to invite the organization into the region as it is not a fully-fledged state and, therefore, incapable of requesting services provided exclusively to OSCE members. OSCE personnel already in Crimea were asked to leave by the pro-Russian authorities. On March 11, the OSCE chair, Switzerland's Foreign Minister Didier Burkhalter, declared the referendum as unconstitutional and therefore the OSCE would not send observers. OSCE military observers attempted to enter the region four times but were turned away, sometimes after warning shots were fired, which was another reason given for not dispatching referendum observers.
OSCE also published a report about their observations which "produced significant evidence of equipment consistent with the presence of Russian Federation military personnel in the vicinity of the various roadblocks encountered"
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@mitchyoung93 Oh and you might want to look into Russia's suppression of the Ukrainian language while you're here.
17-18th century
1620 – Patriarch Filaret of Moscow pronounces an anathema that was to last until the end of the century upon "books of Lithuanian imprint" (meaning Ukrainian and Belarusian), practically the only secular books available in the Russian tsardom.
1693 – Patriarch Adrian of Moscow allows only brief works to be printed in the "local dialect," bans their distribution outside the Ukrainian eparchies. He was following the teaching of Patriarch Joachim, who introduced an obligatory doctrine, repressing any peculiarities, including Ukrainian recension of Church Slavonic and about 300 books published in Kyiv throughout the 17th century.1720 – Peter I prohibits the printing houses of the Pechersk Lavra and Chernihiv from printing any books, except religious books, and those only using the "Great Russian language", by which one should essentially understand the Russian version of Church Slavonic. In practice, this means a ban on using the Ukrainian redaction of Church Slavonic in print.1766 – the Most Holy Synod, governing body of the Russian Orthodox Church, orders the printing houses of the Pechersk Lavra and Chernihiv to stop sending requests for publication of new books, and instead print only those previously printed in Moscow, without changing their content nor language.
In 1765-1786, the administrative language of the Hetmanate was gradually Russified, it let to the complete adoption of Russian as the language of administration of Ukrainian lands in place of the Ruthenian language (prosta mova) ad the end of the period. As a result Ruthenian language is limited to the private use and to works not designed for printing.
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@187Rajah I just dont understand why you would lie about something so easy to google.
On March 10, 2014 the de facto Prime Minister of Crimea, Sergey Aksyonov, made an unofficial verbal invitation to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) to monitor the plebiscite.[ However, later in the day, an OSCE spokeswoman said that Crimea did not have the authority to invite the organization into the region as it is not a fully-fledged state and, therefore, incapable of requesting services provided exclusively to OSCE members. OSCE personnel already in Crimea were asked to leave by the pro-Russian authorities. On March 11, the OSCE chair, Switzerland's Foreign Minister Didier Burkhalter, declared the referendum as unconstitutional and therefore the OSCE would not send observers. OSCE military observers attempted to enter the region four times but were turned away, sometimes after warning shots were fired, which was another reason given for not dispatching referendum observers.
OSCE also published a report about their observations which "produced significant evidence of equipment consistent with the presence of Russian Federation military personnel in the vicinity of the various roadblocks encountered"
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@187Rajah The problem wasn't the Russian army protecting their fleet, obviously. We wouldn't be here taling about it if it was. The problem was 'little green men' seizing government buildings and forcing a referendum at gunpoint.
Here is Putin's own words;
"In order to block and disarm 20,000 well-armed [Ukrainian soldiers], you need a specific set of personnel. And not just in numbers, but with skill. We needed specialists who know how to do it,
That’s why I gave orders to the Defense Ministry -- why hide it? -- to deploy special forces of the GRU (military intelligence) as well as marines and commandos there under the guise of reinforcing security for our military facilities in Crimea."
On 17 April 2014, President Putin admitted publicly for the first time that Russian special forces were involved in the events of Crimea, for the purposes of protecting local people and creating conditions for a referendum. Later, he admitted that the Russian Armed Forces had blocked the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Crimea during the events.
In April 2015, retired Russian Admiral Igor Kasatonov said that the "little green men" were members of Russian Spetsnaz special forces units. According to his information, Russian troop deployment in Crimea included six helicopter landings and three landings of Ilyushin Il-76 with 500 troops
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@corvus4135 Russia breached two articles of the 1948 Genocide Convention, by publicly inciting genocide through denial of the right of Ukraine as a state and Ukrainians as a nation to exist, and by the forcible transfer of Ukrainian children to Russia, which is a genocidal act under article II of the convention.
historian of Central and Eastern Europe and the Holocaust, Timothy D. Snyder, described the What Russia should do with Ukraine essay as "an explicit program for the complete elimination of the Ukrainian nation as such". According to Snyder, Sergeytsev presents the Russian definition of "Nazi" as being "a Ukrainian who refuses to admit being a Russian", and any "affinity for Ukrainian culture or for the European Union" is seen as "Nazism".
Thus, per Snyder, the document defines Russians as not being Nazis, and justifies using the methods of fascism against Ukrainians while calling the methods "denazification". Snyder describes the document as "one of the most openly genocidal documents [that he had] ever seen", stating that the document calls for the majority of Ukrainians, twenty million people, to be killed or sent to labour camps. Snyder argues that Sergeytsev's document, published two days after information about the Bucha massacre became widely known, makes the establishment of genocidal intent much easier to prove legally than in other cases of mass killing
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@alaska3300 Here’s a look at the size the top 10 country’s economy in 2023, according to IMF’s estimates. Because you seem to be confused.
Rank Country GDP (USD)
1 🇺🇸 U.S. $26,855B
2 🇨🇳 China $19,374B
3 🇯🇵 Japan $4,410B
4 🇩🇪 Germany $4,309B
5 🇮🇳 India $3,737B
6 🇬🇧 UK $3,159B
7 🇫🇷 France $2,923B
8 🇮🇹 Italy $2,170B
9 🇨🇦 Canada $2,090B
10 🇧🇷 Brazil $2,081B
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@MyDogRescuer here's what the top 10 actually is, because you seem to be confused.
GDP (USD billions)/GDP per capita.
#1 United States Of America (U.S.A) $26,854 $80.03
#2 China $19,374 $13.72
#3 Japan $4,410 $35.39
#4 Germany $4,309 $51.38
#5 India $3,750 $2.6
#6 United Kingdom (U.K.) $3,159 $46.31
#7 France $2,924 $44.41
#8 Italy $2,170 $36.81
#9 Canada $2,090 $52.72
#10 Brazil $2,080 $9.67
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@PerceivedREALITY999 Ukraine made Ukrainian the official language, thats not discrimination against Russians. The official language in Russia is Russian, that must mean they are discriminating against Ukrainians right? What braindead logic. Oh Russia has discriminated against Ukrainian language in the past though.
720 Peter the Great issued an edict prohibiting printing books in the Ukrainian language, and since 1729 all edicts and instructions have only been in the Russian language. In 1763 Catherine the Great issued an edict prohibiting lectures in the Ukrainian language at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy. In 1769 the Most Holy Synod prohibited printing and using the Ukrainian alphabet book. In 1775 the Zaporizhian Sich was destroyed. In 1832 all studying at schools of the Right-bank Ukraine transitioned to exclusively Russian language. In 1847 the Russian government persecuted all members of the Brotherhood of Saints Cyril and Methodius and prohibited the works of Taras Shevchenko, Panteleimon Kulish, Mykola Kostomarov (Nikolai Kostomarov) and others. In 1862 all free Sunday schools for adults in Ukraine were closed. In 1863 the Russian Minister of Interior Valuev decided that the Little Russian language (Ukrainian language) had never existed and could not ever exist. During that time in the winter of 1863–64, the January Uprising took place at the western regions of the Russian Empire, uniting peoples of the former Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. Next year in 1864 the "Regulation about elementary school" claimed that all teaching should be conducted in the Russian language. In 1879 the Russian Minister of Education Dmitry Tolstoy (later the Russian Minister of Interior) officially and openly stated that all people of the Russian Empire should be Russified. In the 1880s several edicts were issued prohibiting education in the Ukrainian language at private schools, theatric performances in Ukrainian, any use of Ukrainian in official institutions, and christening Ukrainian names. In 1892 another edict prohibited translation from the Russian to Ukrainian. In 1895 the Main Administration of Publishing prohibited printing children books in Ukrainian. In 1911 the resolution adopted at the 7th Congress of Noblemen in Moscow prohibited the use of any languages other than Russian. In 1914 the Russian government officially prohibited celebrations of the 100th Anniversary of Shevchenko's birthday and posted gendarmes at the Chernecha Hill. The same year Nicholas II of Russia issued an edict prohibiting the Ukrainian press.
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@Gerrard_Pike2008 This isn't top secret Manu.
Crowley, Leo T. "Lend-Lease". In Walter Yust, ed., 10 Eventful Years (Chicago: Encyclopædia Britannica Inc., 1947)
"Lend-Lease and Military Aid to the Allies in the Early Years of World War II". Office of the Historian. United States Department of State. Retrieved March 9, 2018
Lend-Lease Shipments: World War II, Section IIIB, Published by Office, Chief of Finance, War Department, December 31, 1946
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@MaximPerepelitsa51 Russia is in violation of the Minsk Agreements. The deals require a ceasefire, withdrawal of foreign military forces, disbanding of illegal armed groups, and returning control of the Ukrainian side of the international border with Russia to Ukraine, all of this under OSCE supervision. Russia has done none of this. It has regular military officers as well as intelligence operatives and unmarked “little green men” woven into the military forces in Eastern Ukraine. The LPR and DPR forces are by any definition “illegal armed groups,” that have not been disbanded. The ceasefire has barely been respected by the Russian side for more than a few days at a time.
Russian-led forces prevent the OSCE from accomplishing its mission in Donbas as spelled out in the Minsk Agreements. It is an unstated irony in Vienna — understood by every single diplomatic mission and member of the international staff — that Russia approves the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine when it votes in Vienna, but then blocks implementation of that same mission on the ground in Ukraine. Because Russia is a member of the OSCE, and the SMM wanted to preserve what little access it has to the occupied territories, the mission is guarded in what it says about ceasefire violations and restrictions on its freedom of movement. Privately, however, they acknowledge that some 80% of such violations and restrictions come from the Russian-controlled side of the border, and those that occur on the Ukrainian side are largely for safety reasons (e.g., avoiding mined approaches to bridges.)
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@valkiyri There were peace talks nobody denies that, there was never any peace agreement. Russia retreated from Kyiv because it became clear they had no hope of taking it. Here's what Arakhamia, who's the Ukrainian official you are refering to actually said.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
Arakhamia also denied the fact that the Ukrainian delegation was ready to sign the document and Boris Johnson stopped them. According to his own words, the Western partners were informed about the negotiations and had seen the draft versions of the agreement, but they did not make decisions on behalf of Ukraine.
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@MrSupercampeao As for what Arakhamia said.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief.
Also, when we returned from Istanbul [after the failed negotiations], Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them and would just fight.
So no you are just parroting long debunked Russian talking points.
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@againstviralmisinformation510 First all (from the thesaurus) Synonyms of colonize (verb settle) conquer. found. immigrate. migrate. Like I said your semantic games aren't convincing.
Lets hold some referendums in the Caucuses and see how that goes. Moscow is very unpopular there.
When you say Russia helped the South Ossetians are you referring to the ethnic cleansing that went on there?
"Ethnic cleansing of Georgians in South Ossetia was a mass expulsion of ethnic Georgians conducted in South Ossetia and other territories occupied by Russian and South Ossetian forces, which happened during and after the 2008 Russia–Georgia war. Overall, at least 20,000 Georgians were forcibly displaced from South Ossetia." Standard fare from Russia. Luckily they were allowed to leave instead of killed off in typical Russian fashion.
The Human Rights Watch concluded that the "South Ossetian forces sought to ethnically cleanse" the Georgian-populated areas. In 2009, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe resolutions condemned "the ethnic cleansing and other human rights violations in South Ossetia, as well as the failure of Russia and the de facto authorities to bring these practices to a halt and their perpetrators to justice". According to the September 2009 report of the European Union-sponsored Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on the Conflict in Georgia, "several elements suggest the conclusion that ethnic cleansing was carried out against ethnic Georgians in South Ossetia both during and after the August 2008 conflict."
The leader of Puerto Rico is Pedro Pierluisi, who was elected by Puerto Ricans. They also speak Spanish there, the US has no official language. Puerto Rico also receives subsidies, Department of the Treasury announced Puerto Rico will receive up to $109 million in funding. American Samoa also elects their own leader and receives subsidies. That means they aren't colonies by your logic right?
I'm also not the one making inane claims like the US isn't a colonial power, obviously they are, just like Russia. Only one of us is trying to deny reality and it isn't me.
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@againstviralmisinformation510 While i'm at it. Here's some more minorities that Russia 'helped' They 'helped' 30-50 million in total.
1935: Between 7,000 and 9,000 Finns from Lembovo and Nikoulias districts, in the Leningrad region, becaome the first group to be massively deported based on ethnicity. Falsely accused of betrayal, the Finns were expelled to secure the Soviet frontiers. The People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs (NKVD), forerunner of the Committee for State Security (KGB) orchestrated the operation, as it did for all subsequent mass deportations.
1936, April: About 35,700 Poles living alongside the Ukrainian frontier and some 20,000 Finnish peasants were deported to Kazakhstan for the same reasons as those previously mentioned. The deportation was class-based in the sense that it targeted specific economic categories; but it was also ethnically motivated, as it aimed to secure the frontiers.
1937, September-October: The first large-scale operation of massive deportation occurred in the Soviet Far East. About 175,000 Koreans living along the Chinese and Korean borders were relocated by force to Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. They were charged with espionage, spying for the Japanese. After a brutal expulsion, the Koreans experienced severe living conditions. Moscow did not inform the local Uzbek and Kazakh authorities about the arrival of a large population of “administrative settlers.” Nothing was prepared to accommodate or provide them with basic supplies such as food, clothes and shoes. Although there was no reliable data regarding the Korean death toll, testimonies and NKVD documents indicate that many of them died from disease, starvation and lack of housing. By 1945, they joined the long list of “special settlers,” among other punished peoples.
1939, September 17: (Poland) The Red Army invaded Poland.
1940, February to April: (The Red Army annexed territories in the eastern parts of Poland) About 250,000 Poles and thousands of Ukrainians and Byelorussians were deported in three major waves to Siberia and to Central and Far Eastern Asia in order to remove the most active populations from the annexed territories. Although based on ethnic criteria, these forced expulsions mainly targeted families of military colonists, prisoners-of-war and foresters. They were dispatched to labor camps or executed.
1941, June 13-14: (Baltic countries) In the aftermath of the Baltic States’ conquest, about 39,395 persons – Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians but also Poles, Finns, and Germans – were deported to the Soviet Far East. Ivan Serov coordinated the operation under the command of Lavrenti Beria.
1941, August: The Finns, or Ingrians, inhabiting the Leningrad region and who had not been deported in 1932-1934, were expelled by force to Central Asia. The USSR took this measure to prevent them from assisting the Finnish army that had just invaded the Soviet Karelia region.
1941, August 28: A decree from the Supreme Soviet Presidium established that Russian-Germans were collectively responsible for collaboration with the German invaders, and ordered their massive deportation. From the end of August 1941 until June 1942, about 1,200,000 Russian-Germans were removed from their homes and relocated in Siberia and Central Asia. The operation mobilized thousands of soldiers, policemen and NKVD members. Hundreds of trains and vehicles were dedicated to this task at a time of Russian military retreat. No reliable data exists on the death toll among the Russian-German deportees.
1943, October 12: The Supreme Soviet issued a decree ordering the deportation of all the Karachays, a Turkish-speaking people inhabiting the North Caucasus. The USSR accused them of collaboration with the German army, which had been occuping Karachay territory for the previous six months. In November 68,938 persons, mainly disarmed (women, children, elderly people and war veterans) were transported under very hard conditions to Kirghizia and Kazakhstan. The men serving with the Red Army or fighting in partisan movements were demobilized and sent into exile or to labor camps. All the Karachays paid for the relationship that a few of their fellow Karachays had established with the German occupiers. This scenario became a common one for all punished peoples.
1943, December 27: Under Beria’s orders began the brutal deportation of the Kalmyks, a Buddhist people living in southern Russia near the Volga river basin. In three days, about 93,000 persons were expelled to Siberia. The lack of food and disease claimed the lives of thousands of people who had been forced into jam-packed cattle cars. Likewise, the settlements in exile were equally inhospitable. During the first glacial Siberian winter many died, faced with widespread indifference.
1944, February 23: The Soviet government deported the Chechens and the Ingush, two Muslim peoples of the North Caucasus. Although the Germans had only occupied a region in the extreme northwest of the Republic, Chechens and Ingush were accused of betrayal and massive collaboration with the German occupiers, like the other punished peoples. Beria’s administration used methods resembling those of earlier deportations. Yet this operation proved to be more difficult due to the uneven nature of the terrain. Furthermore, the resistance of a few Chechen and Ingush groups slowed down the NKVD soldiers’ agenda. Nonetheless, in seven days nearly 478,000 people, comprised of 387,000 Chechens and 91,000 Ingush, were arrested, loaded into hundreds of convoys and then resettled in Central Asia, mainly in Kazakhstan. It is difficult to set an exact death toll due to the lack of evidence. According to different estimations, between 30% and 50% of the deportees died, either during the journey or in the first years of exile in the special settlements.
1944, March 7: The deportation of the 38,000 Balkars, a small Turkish people living near the Elbruz Mountain in Northern Caucasus, began. Three days later, all deportee-convoys were en route to Central Asia. Between 20% and 40% of the Balkars died between 1944 and 1956.
1944, May 18: The Crimean Tatars, a Muslim Turkish-speaking people originating from the peninsula of Crimea located on the borders of Black Sea, were deported. This forced removal took place one month after the German army, who had occupied the peninsula from 1942 to April 1944, retreated. In two days roughly 190,000 persons, mostly women, children and elderly people, were loaded into freight trains and transferred to an unknown destination. Most of them landed in Uzbekistan, while others arrived either in the Volga basin or Siberia. The forced expulsion, along with thirteen years of exile as special settlers, took a heavy toll among the Crimean Tatars. According to different studies and censuses, between 20% and 46.2% of them died either during the journey or in the first year and a half of exile.
1944, June: Other non-Slavic peoples living in Crimea were deported a few weeks after the Crimean Tatars: 12,075 Bulgarians, 14,300 Greeks and about 10,000 Armenians were expelled from their homes and sent to Central Asia against their will. All of them were accused of treason and more specifically, of having commercial interests that linked them to the German occupiers. At the same time, Greeks from Rostov and Krasnodar were exiled to the eastern regions of the Soviet Union. They were suspected of having a close relationship with Greece, as most of them had refused Soviet citizenship and struggled to maintain their Greek culture.
1944, November: Muslim Turkish-speaking peoples living in Georgia along the Turkish borders (the Meskhetian Turks, the Khemchins and the Kurds) became the next target of the Stalinist national policy. Given that the Nazi army had never reached Georgia, they could not be accused of massive collaboration. Instead they were charged with being Turkish spies. About 90,000 persons were brutally expelled and relocated to Central Asia to “clean” the frontiers. This constituted the last large-scale operation.
The NKVD continued hunting down all members of these groups who might have managed to escape deportation, for some reason.
1948: Confronted with the large insurrection that followed the Baltic States’ annexation, the Soviet central apparatus decided to deport new groups of Lithuanians, Estonians and Latvians: about 48,000 persons were sent to Siberia.
1948, November 26: Stalin issued a decree by which all massive deportations were declared definitive.
1949, March: The previous measures did not stop the revolts in the Baltic States. In response, Stalin ordered the deportation of an additional 30,000 families, that is to say a total of about 95,000 persons, to discourage insurgents and bring all the opponents to heel. All deportees became special settlers and lived under the NKVD’s harsh rule.
1949: About 37,000 Greeks living in Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and the Krasnodar Region were deported to Kazakhstan. Like their fellow Greeks forcibly removed in 1944, they were accused of disloyalty and non-integration.
1950: After the organized famine of 1946-47, the Soviet government decided to deport approximately 100,000 Moldavians from Moldavia, who were suspected of having close ties with their Romanian neighbors. They too joined the long list of special settlers and endured especially difficult conditions in exile.
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@agent3268 This is from the Wiki because you seem to be confused.
While the shelling of Bakhmut began in May 2022, the main assault towards the city started on 1 August after Russian forces advanced from the direction of Popasna following a Ukrainian withdrawal from that front.[35] The main assault force primarily consisted of mercenaries from the Russian paramilitary organization Wagner Group, supported by regular Russian troops and reportedly Donetsk People's Republic militia elements.[14][36][13]
As of late 2022, following Ukraine's Kharkiv and Kherson counteroffensives, the Bakhmut–Soledar front became an important focus of the war, being one of the few front lines in Ukraine where Russia remained on the offensive.[37] Attacks on the city intensified in November 2022 as assaulting Russian forces were reinforced by units redeployed from the Kherson front, together with newly mobilized recruits.[38][39] By this time, much of the front line had descended into positional trench warfare, with both sides suffering high casualties without any significant advances.[40] By using repeated assaults composed of former convicts, Wagner troops were able to gradually gain ground,[41][42] and by February 2023, they captured territory in the north and south of Bakhmut and threatened encirclement, forcing Ukrainian forces to slowly pull out into the city,[43][44] and the battle turned into fierce urban warfare.[43] By March 2023, Russian forces captured the eastern half of the city, up to the Bakhmutka river, and continued to advance into Ukrainian-controlled parts of Bakhmut.[45][46]
On 20 May 2023, Bakhmut had been mostly captured by Russian forces,[47][48][49] with the Ukrainian military controlling only a small strip of the city proper along the T0504 highway.[50][51][52] Nonetheless, Ukraine started counterattacks on Russia's flanks, seeking to encircle the city.[6] Around the same time on 25 May, Wagner began withdrawing from the city to be replaced by regular Russian troops,[53] amidst heavy internal squabbles between Wagner leadership and Russian high command.[54][55]
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@QigongGreyDragon In 1938, during its conflict with Japan, the ROC defaulted on its sovereign debt. After the military victory of the communists, the ROC government fled to Taiwan. The People’s Republic of China was eventually recognized internationally as the successor government of China. Under well-established international law, the “successor government” doctrine holds that the current government of China, led by the Chinese Communist Party, is responsible for repayment of the defaulted bonds.
A private group of American citizens holds a large quantity of these gold-denominated bonds. This citizen-led group, the American Bondholders Foundation (ABF), serves as trustee with power of attorney for some 20,000 bondholders, whose bonds are valued at well more than $1 trillion before interest..
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@Gerrard_Pike2008 Yeah dozens of times Manu, I'm guessing you just want modern history though. The Ukrainian War of Independence, the Polish–Soviet War, the 1917–1920 Russian Civil War — Southern Front, 1918–1923 Russian Civil War — Eastern Front.
Do you also include genocides? because there's the Holodomor and the Crimean Tartar genocide.
Furthermore the Maidan rebellion is Ukraine's business, only in Russia's and your deranged fantasy world does that give them casus belli to attack.
Putin also has a long history of attacking his neighbors, Transnistria, Chechnya, Dagestan, Georgia, Ukraine twice. And Russia has an even longer history of annexing neighboring countries. That's too long to list in a youtube comment though.
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@billcarson818 Here's what Arakhamia, who was in the room, said: “First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this intrusion would never happen again. However, there is no such belief.
Arakhamia also denied the fact that the Ukrainian delegation was ready to sign the document and Boris Johnson stopped them. According to his own words, the Western partners were informed about the negotiations and had seen the draft versions of the agreement, but they did not make decisions on behalf of Ukraine
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@paulfredriksteiner Do you really think Mossad publishes its info?
"Disinformation is being promoted in social networks, claiming that the Turkish media outlet, Hurseda Haber, published exclusive information about military casualties as a result of Russia’s aggression against Ukraine ostensibly based on anonymous data from Israeli intelligence. According to the claim which was disseminated across the world and was also featured on a Rustavi 2 TV programme in Georgia apart from appearing in social networks, Russia has lost only 18,480 troops in Ukraine since 24 February 2022 whilst Ukraine’s losses are 157,000. In addition, hostilities in Ukraine claimed the lives of more than 2,000 soldiers and NATO instructors according to the disinformation. In fact, reports that Mossad published such statistics or that these reports were given to the aforementioned Turkish media outlet are not based on any factual evidence or data.
The information provided by the Turkish media, which was later used by different media outlets or individuals to circulate the same information, is not confirmed by any source. The article does not include the name of the author nor the source of the information. It simply contains unsubstantiated numbers and states that the figures are based on Israeli intelligence’s field data of 14 January 2023.
There is a sharp discrepancy between figures in the article about the losses in manpower and weaponry for Ukraine and Russia and figures from all previously published reliable official and unofficial sources (for instance, Ukraine did not have 514 aircraft/helicopters and 6,320 tanks which the article says were destroyed at the beginning of the war or during its active phase). The exact amount of losses is unknown, although as stated by the Head of Norwegian Armed Forces, Eirik Kristoffersen, casualties of the Russian army, both dead and wounded, are within the margins of 180,000 whilst casualties for Ukraine are about 100,000. In addition, according to the assessment of Mark Milley, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Russian losses in Ukraine are over 100,000. It is also a lie that military hostilities in Ukraine claimed the lives of over 2,000 military service members of NATO member states.
NATO troops do not take part in combat actions in Ukraine whilst NATO military instructors (instructors from the UK and the US as indicated in the publication) do not train Ukrainian soldiers on the territory of Ukraine.
This information was also verified by an influential American outlet, Politifact, which officially reached out to NATO requesting comments on the aforementioned information. NATO officials responded to Politifact and clarified: “There are no troops or trainers under NATO command in Ukraine and no NATO personnel have been killed in the conflict."
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@tasospanagiotou7823 Where do you guys get this nonsense? Zelensky's first language is Russian, he still gets criticized for not speaking perfect Ukrainain. 2014 was when Russia began its invasion. Gee I wonder why Ukraine would want to ban pro Russian parties. Nobody gave af about Russian's until they invaded.
Yanukovich was voted out by 100% of parliament, including his own party, he fled because of the uprising that occured due to his attempt to hold onto power.
How do you feel about Russia suppressing the Ukrainian language in Ukraine?
The Russian Empire promoted the spread of the Russian language among the native Ukrainian population, actively refusing to acknowledge the existence of a Ukrainian language.
Alarmed by the threat of Ukrainian separatism (in its turn influenced by the 1863 demands of Polish nationalists), the Russian Minister of Internal Affairs Pyotr Valuev in 1863 issued a secret decree that banned the publication of religious texts and educational texts written in the Ukrainian language as non-grammatical, but allowed all other texts, including fiction. The Emperor Alexander II in 1876 expanded this ban by issuing the Ems Ukaz (which lapsed in 1905). The Ukaz banned all Ukrainian-language books and song-lyrics, as well as the importation of such works. Furthermore, Ukrainian-language public performances, plays, and lectures were forbidden. In 1881 the decree was amended to allow the publishing of lyrics and dictionaries, and the performances of some plays in the Ukrainian language with local officials' approval. Ukrainian-only troupes were, however, forbidden.
During the Soviet times, the attitude to Ukrainian language and culture went through periods of promotion (policy of "korenization", c. 1923 to c. 1933), suppression (during the subsequent period of Stalinism)
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@theo3030 Everything after 2009 was done in response to Russia's invasion of Georgia. And Kosovo is nowhere near Russia. Camp Bondsteel is home to a super threatening 7k soldiers. The base also has a hospital, two gyms, and two recreation buildings with phones, computers, pool tables, and video games. a chapel, a large dining facility, a fire station, a military police station, two cappuccino bars, a Burger King, Taco Bell, and an Anthony's Pizza. There is also a barber shop, a laundry facility employing local nationals, a dry cleaner, a tailor, various local vendors who sell Kosovo souvenirs and products, and sports fields.
What exactly is Russia so afraid of? Maybe Pakistan doesn't like CSTO expansion, that means they can invade central Asia right?
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@Rick-zw9kp He didn't have to flee, he could have called an election which is what the protests were about. Instead Yanukovych was whisked away by his Russian masters special forces to a safe haven in Russia. The protests didnt turn violent until over 100 people were killed in Kyiv by his security forces, even he has expressed regret over this. You clearly have no idea what a coup is, its time to rejoin reality.
Quebec is a ridiculous example. I'm not sure if you remember but they actually had two referendums and they decided to stay in Canada. Ukraine also had one, an overwhelming majority of 92.3% voted for independence. Results which were recognized by every country on earth, including Russia, then when Ukraine no longer wants to be their Puppet in 2014 Russia invaded.
Self determination? There was no separatist sentiment in the Donbas until Russia invaded. Like Strelkov said "I was the one who pulled the trigger of this war,"
"If our unit hadn't crossed the border, everything would have fizzled out — like in Kharkiv, like in Odessa,"
"There would have been several dozen killed, burned, detained. And that would have been the end of it. But the flywheel of the war, which is continuing to this day, was spun by our unit. We mixed up all the cards on the table."
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@ИринаЛукьяненко-ь3ъ I have no idea why you would lie about something so easy to google.
Pre Soviet Union.
Besides the Ems ukaz and Valuev Circular, there was a series of anti-Ukrainian language edicts starting from the 17th century, when Russia was governed by the House of Romanov. In 1720 Peter the Great issued an edict prohibiting printing books in the Ukrainian language, and since 1729 all edicts and instructions have only been in the Russian language. In 1763 Catherine the Great issued an edict prohibiting lectures in the Ukrainian language at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy. In 1769 the Most Holy Synod prohibited printing and using the Ukrainian alphabet book. In 1775 the Zaporizhian Sich was destroyed. In 1832 all studying at schools of the Right-bank Ukraine transitioned to exclusively Russian language. In 1847 the Russian government persecuted all members of the Brotherhood of Saints Cyril and Methodius and prohibited the works of Taras Shevchenko, Panteleimon Kulish, Mykola Kostomarov (Nikolai Kostomarov) and others. In 1862 all free Sunday schools for adults in Ukraine were closed. In 1863 the Russian Minister of Interior Valuev decided that the Little Russian language (Ukrainian language) had never existed and could not ever exist. During that time in the winter of 1863–64, the January Uprising took place at the western regions of the Russian Empire, uniting peoples of the former Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. Next year in 1864 the "Regulation about elementary school" claimed that all teaching should be conducted in the Russian language. In 1879 the Russian Minister of Education Dmitry Tolstoy (later the Russian Minister of Interior) officially and openly stated that all people of the Russian Empire should be Russified. In the 1880s several edicts were issued prohibiting education in the Ukrainian language at private schools, theatric performances in Ukrainian, any use of Ukrainian in official institutions, and christening Ukrainian names. In 1892 another edict prohibited translation from the Russian to Ukrainian. In 1895 the Main Administration of Publishing prohibited printing children books in Ukrainian. In 1911 the resolution adopted at the 7th Congress of Noblemen in Moscow prohibited the use of any languages other than Russian. In 1914 the Russian government officially prohibited celebrations of the 100th Anniversary of Shevchenko's birthday and posted gendarmes at the Chernecha Hill. The same year Nicholas II of Russia issued an edict prohibiting the Ukrainian press.
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@oc5058 Is In the 2000 Camp David Summit, Ehud Barak, then Prime Minister of Israel, offered to form a Palestinian state, initially with 73% of the West Bank and 100% of Gaza. In 10 to 25 years, the Palestinian state will expand to 92% of the West Bank. But Yasser Arafat, leader of the PLO, rejected the offer. Over and over Israel has attempted to find a two state solution. Its Hamas and the Palestinians that won't play ball. Its not easy to negotiate with a group who's mission statement calls for your complete destruction.
Netanyahu (who I also think is trash btw) got elected because of the constant rocket attacks on Israel, not the other way around. Not that I think Israel is blameless, they do need to quit with the west bank settlements, those of course wouldn't be happening if Palestine accepted one of the many two state proposals.
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@jesseterrell2109 Yeah Russia has been about to capture Avdiivka for about nine years now, I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you. Russia has multiple failed offensives. Kyiv, Sumy, Kharkiv, Kherson, Vulhedar and Avdiivka may be the worst failure of them all. Hundreds of armored vehicles and tens of thousands of casualties to capture a couple empty fields. All to try to capture a small town with a pre war population of 30k right on the border, be in awe of the mighty Russian army. Russia claimed to capture Mariyinka but they haven't, Ukraine still holds parts of the town and fighting continues. They claimed to capture Bakhmut months before they had too, its just more Russia lies. Remember when they destroyed a bunch of farm equipment and tried to pass it off as Leopards?
Russia has lost at leat 13.5k armored vehicles and cant even take the Donbas. This is the minimum number that there is photographic evidence for, the actual number is much higher. This invasion has been a humiliating disaster for Russia regardless of how you try to spin it. Ukraine has recaptured over 50% of the territory once occupied by Russia. The Russian army just had its worst month of the war, the Russian navy just lost the battle of the Black Sea to a country with no navy. And the Russian airforce has been a no show since taking terrible losses in the early war.
And that Hawaii comment is pure nonsense, the 700 was an up front payment to make sure people had enough for food and essentials. They've gotten much more than that, are you brain damaged or or just a Russian propaganda bot? Hawaii governor Josh Green said he was amazed how quickly help arrived and he got everything he asked for.
Lots of people want to get into the US to live a better life because of its high quality of living, including thousands of Russians every year. I'm sorry your life sucks though, remember it could always be worse, like in Russia where 1 in 5 people don't even have access to a toilet. Its a pretty good country if you are a cannibal though.
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Please. China couldnt even make ballpoint pens until 2017.
The ASPI is a fear mongering publications trying to spur Australian military spending.
In February 2020, Australian Labor Party Senator Kim Carr described the ASPI as "hawks intent on fighting a new cold war." Former Foreign Minister Bob Carr (no relation) said the ASPI provides a "one-sided, pro-American view of the world" and criticised the group for taking what he claimed was almost $450,000 from the U.S. State Department, to track Australian universities with Chinese research collaborations, and "vilifying and denigrating Australian researchers and their work." Bob Carr's criticism of ASPI came after ASPI president Peter Jennings had raised questions about the donation of $1.8 million by a Chinese billionaire to a group related to Carr. ASPI replied that it "doesn't have an editorial line on China, but we have a very clear method for how we go about our research," and claimed that the true amount of State Department funding was less than half that amount stated by Carr. ASPI was criticized by former diplomats John Menadue, Geoff Raby, and Bruce Haigh, with Haigh referring to ASPI as serving the foreign policy interests of the Liberal Party of Australia. In July 2022 an article in The Economist described ASPI as "hawkish".
In October 2018, the Australian Digital Transformation Agency criticised an ASPI report on the Australian Government's digital identity program. The Agency stated that the report "was inaccurate and contained many factual errors", which "demonstrate a clear misunderstanding of how the digital identity system is intended to work".
There is much more criticism than this, feel free to read them for yourself before you post such embarrassing 'facts' again.
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@josecarlossantistebancole9848 2014 is when Russia began its invasion. I think maybe YOU should read the OSCE report.
"For the past four years, this Council has borne witness to Russia’s aggression against Ukraine. Four years into the fighting, Russia has failed to keep even the most basic of the agreements reached in Minsk. Russia has failed to respect the line of contact, leading incursions since 2014 that have claimed hundreds of square kilometers for its proxies in eastern Ukraine. Russia has failed to respect the ceasefire, making and breaking countless truces. Russia has failed to withdraw heavy weapons, consistently deploying – and firing – them in proscribed areas. And Russia has failed to uphold the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM), permitting – if not instructing – its forces to deny, detain, threaten, and even shoot at monitors, their vehicles, and their cameras and drones. Russia’s aggression has cost over 10,300 lives, wounded an estimated 25,000 more, and displaced up to two million people."
"We recall that Russia’s aggression against Ukraine is not limited to the Donbas, but began with its occupation and attempted annexation of Crimea. Russia must put an end to its mistreatment of the Crimean Tatar people and all others who refuse to recognize its attempted annexation of the peninsula. Occupation “authorities” have harassed and intimidated Crimean Tatar activists, conducted intrusive and unwarranted searches at Tatar mosques, schools, and homes, and initiated administrative and criminal proceedings against scores of Crimean Tatars. 20,000 people have fled Crimea since the start of the occupation. We remind the Russian Federation that Crimea-related sanctions will continue until it ends the occupation and returns the peninsula to Ukraine."
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@duongphan1950 Not sure where you got your crazy information but Canada isn't even in the top twenty highest taxed countries. The problem with Health care is the same as Education, a bloated administration. We spend the same per capita as other countries with successful education and health care systems just with 3x the administration. I'm also not sure how you think not sending some old rockets to Ukraine will in any way help in these areas.
20. South Africa
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 45%
GDP Per Capita: $16,210
19. China
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 45%
GDP Per Capita: $23,310
18. Slovenia
Individual Income Tax Rate (2022): 45%
GDP Per Capita: $51,410
17. South Korea
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 45%
GDP Per Capita: $56,710
16. United Kingdom
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 45%
GDP Per Capita: $56,840
15. France
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 45%
GDP Per Capita: $58,770
14. Australia
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 45%
GDP Per Capita: $64,670
13. Germany
Individual Income Tax Rate (2022): 45%
GDP Per Capita: $66,040
12. Iceland
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 46.25%
GDP Per Capita: $69,830
11. Spain
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 47%
GDP Per Capita: $50,470
10. Portugal
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 48%
GDP Per Capita: $45,230
9. Netherlands
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 49.50%
GDP Per Capita: $73,320
8. Israel
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 50%
GDP Per Capita: $54,770
7. Belgium
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 50%
GDP Per Capita: $65,810
6. Aruba
Individual Income Tax Rate (2022): 52%
GDP Per Capita: $51,350
5. Sweden
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 52.30%
GDP Per Capita: $66,210
4. Austria
Individual Income Tax Rate (2023): 55%
GDP Per Capita: $69,070
3. Japan
Individual Income Tax Rate (2021): 55.97%
GDP Per Capita: $52,120
2. Denmark
Individual Income Tax Rate (2022): 56%
GDP Per Capita: $74,960
1. Finland
Individual Income Tax Rate (2021): 56.95%
GDP Per Capita: $59,870
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@Godfrey544 We are at the bottom of a line that goes straight up. Most mid level white collar jobs could already be eliminated (and along with them most mid level managers) it's mostly just lack of knowledge and inertia that keeps things going as they are.
I'm not able to predict what's actually going to happen, nobody is this is uncharted territory. What we've seen so far is pre Wright brothers stuff, contraptions that have no hope of flying, then all of a sudden 60 years later were on the moon. Only the rise of AI will be much faster and much more disruptve then flight.
Already ChatGPT scores in the top 10% on the bar exam, meaning that for 90% of the population its more optimal to talk to AI then to an actual lawyer. Art, which at one point we thought the realm of humans turns out to be pretty easy for AI and its only a matter of time before we start seing AI books, video games and films, complete with AI actors. The last bastion will be blue collar work as our robotics development is behind our AI so far, but once we are able to ask AI for blueprints (and it can already code so I dont think this is that far off) things will change drastically even for blue collar workers.
Kurzweil still thinks we'll have super intelligence by 2029, i've seen other's in the field predict anywhere from 5 years to 18 months. People get hung up on concousness for AGI but as one person put it, who's name I unfortunately forget. It doesn't matter so much what AI thinks, but what it can do.
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@rajshah7734 Russia is illegally occupying Manchuria, Kuril Islands, Georgia, the Gulf of Finland islands, Karelian Isthmus, Ladoga Karelia, Salla, Rybachy Peninsula, The Donbas, Zaporizhia, Crimea, Transnistria. etc etc.
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@skp8748 "Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible." - 45th president of the United States of America, the stable genius himself.
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@johnwi-l_l-iamsf3763 lol why did you delete your comment?
Remember when Russia said the retreat from Kyiv was a 'gesture of goodwill', or when they said the Moskva sank due to high seas, or when they warned about Ukrainian war mosquitos, or when they said Ukraine was on the brink of collapse then they retreated from Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kherson and Kharkiv and a year and a half later STILL cant take the Donbas. Remember when they said everything was going according to plan while they dust off the T54s, remember the 3 copies of The Sims 3, remember when they destroyed a bunch of farm equipment and tried to pass it off as Leopards, remember how they destroyed a bunch of Leopards and Bradleys months before they even arrived in the country, remember how they've destroyed more HIMARS then have been produced, remember how they've destroyed the entire Ukrainian army 6 times over. Remember?
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@againstviralmisinformation510 Finally you're asking smart questions. (well not really but here I go anyways)
For starters I can hold up a blank sheet of paper with out fear of going to jail. And I dont have to worry about my daughter drawing a picture the state doesn't like and having to flee for my life, like Alexei Moskalyov.
I can run for public office without risking eating a polonium sandwich. like political rivals Sergei Yushenkov and Boris Nemtsov. Or end up in the Gulag like Navalny.
I have the right to a fair trial unlike the 380 political prisoners in Russia (as of June 2020, there are far more now) including 63 individuals prosecuted, directly or indirectly, for political activities (including Alexey Navalny) and 245 prosecuted for their involvement with one of the Muslim organizations that are banned in Russia. 78 individuals on the list, i.e. more than 20% of the total, are residents of Crimea.
The judiciary of Russia is subject to manipulation by political authorities according to Amnesty International. According to Constitution of Russia, top judges are appointed by the Federation Council, following nomination by the President of Russia. Anna Politkovskaya described in her book Putin's Russia stories of judges who did not follow "orders from the above" and were assaulted or removed from their positions. In an open letter written in 2005, former judge Olga Kudeshkina criticized the chairman of the Moscow city court O. Egorova for "recommending judges to make right decisions" which allegedly caused more than 80 judges in Moscow to retire in the period from 2002 to 2005.
The courts generally follow the non-acquittals policy; in 2004 acquittals constituted only 0.7 percent of all judgments. Judges are dependent on administrators, bidding prosecutorial offices in turn. The work of public prosecutors varies from poor to dismal. Lawyers are mostly court appointed and low paid. There was a rapid deterioration of the situation characterized by abuse of the criminal process, harassment and persecution of defense bar members in politically sensitive cases in recent years. The principles of adversariness and equality of the parties to criminal proceedings are not observed.
The court system has been widely used to suppress political opposition as in the cases of Pssy Riot, Alexei Navalny, Zarema Bagavutdinova, and Vyacheslav Maltsev and to block candidatures of Kremlin's political enemies.
According to MEPs Russia did not meet election standards as defined by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe. The preliminary findings of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights report on procedural violations, lack of media impartiality, harassment of independent monitors and lack of separation between party and state.
I can be a journalist without fear of being assassinated like Yuri Schekochikhin, Anna Politkovskaya and Nikolay Andrushchenko.
I have access to free press unlike in Russia. Reporters Without Borders put Russia at 147th place in the World Press Freedom Index (from a list of 168 countries). According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, 47 journalists have been killed in Russia for their professional activity, since 1992 (as of 15 January 2008). Thirty were killed during President Boris Yeltsin's reign, and the rest were killed under the president Vladimir Putin.
On 4 March 2022, Putin signed into law a bill introducing prison sentences of up to 15 years for those who publish "knowingly false information" about the Russian armed forces and their operations, leading to some media outlets in Russia to stop reporting on Ukraine or shutting their media outlet As of December 2022, more than 4,000 people were prosecuted under "fake news" laws in connection with the war in Ukraine. I could go on but i fear were already approaching novel length with this post.
I have freedom to assemble. Russian Constitution states of the Freedom of assembly that citizens of the Russian Federation shall have the right to gather peacefully, without weapons, and to hold meetings, rallies, demonstrations, marches and pickets.
According to Amnesty International (2013 report) peaceful protests across Russia, including gatherings of small groups of people who presented no public threat or inconvenience, were routinely dispersed by police, often with excessive force. The day before the inauguration of President Putin, peaceful protesters against elections to Bolotnaya Square in Moscow were halted by police. 19 protesters faced criminal charges in connection with events characterized by authorities as "mass riots". Several leading political activists were named as witnesses in the case and had their homes searched in operations that were widely broadcast by state-controlled television channels. Over 6 and 7 May, hundreds of peaceful individuals were arrested across Moscow. According to Amnesty International police used excessive and unlawful force against protestors during the Bolotnaya Square protest on 6 May 2012. Hundreds of peaceful protesters were arrested.
According to a Russian law introduced in 2014, a fine or detention of up to 15 days may be given for holding a demonstration without the permission of authorities and prison sentences of up to five years may be given for three breaches. Single-person pickets have resulted in fines and a three-year prison sentence.
I can be a human rights activist without fear of death, unlike the unfortuate Galina Starovoitova, and Stanislav Markelov.
I likely wont be tortured, unlike Andrei Sychev had to have both legs and genitals amputated after this torture due to gangrene caused by cut bloodflow.
The Constitution of Russia forbids arbitrary detention, torture and ill-treatment. However, in practice, Russian police, Federal Security Service and prison and jail guards are regularly observed practicing torture with impunity - including beatings with many different types of batons, sticks and truncheons, water battles, sacks with sand etc., the "Elephant Method" which is beating a victim wearing a gas mask with cut airflow and the "Supermarket Method" which is the same but with a plastic bag on head, electric shocks including to genitals, nose, and ears (known as "Phone call to Putin"), binding in stress positions, cigarette burns, needles and electric needles hammered under nails, prolonged suspension, sleep deprivation, food deprivation, rpe, penetration with foreign objects, asphyxiation - in interrogating arrested suspects. Another torture method is the "Television" which involves forcing the victim to stand in a mid-squat with extended arms in front of them holding a stool or even two stools, with the seat facing them. Other torture methods include the "Rack" or "Stretch" which involves hanging a victim on hands tied behind the back, the "Refrigerator" which involves subjecting a naked victim sometimes doused in cold water to subzero temperatures, the "Furnace" where the victim is left in heat in a small space and "Chinese torture" where the feet of the victim laying on a tabletop are beaten with clubs. In 2000, human rights Ombudsman Oleg Mironov estimated that 50% of prisoners with whom he spoke claimed to have been tortured. Amnesty International reported that Russian military forces in Chechnya engage in torture. There is much more regarding torture but I feel like I'm just piling on at this point.
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Typically I can be a scientist without fear of reprisal. unlike; Igor Sutyagin (sentenced to 15 years). Evgeny Afanasyev and Svyatoslav Bobyshev, (sentenced to 12 and a half and 12 years). Scientist Igor Reshetin and his associates at the Russian rocket and space researcher TsNIIMash-Export.
Physicist Valentin Danilov (sentenced to 14 years) Oskar Kaibyshev (given a 6-year suspended sentence and a fine of $132,000) Ecologist and journalist Alexander Nikitin, who worked with the Bellona Foundation, was likewise accused of espionage. He published material exposing hazards posed by the Russian Navy's nuclear fleet. He was acquitted in 1999 after spending several years in prison (his case was sent for re-investigation 13 times while he remained in prison). Other cases of prosecution are the cases of investigative journalist and ecologist Grigory Pasko, sentenced to three years' imprisonment and later released under a general amnesty, Vladimir Petrenko who described dangers posed by military chemical warfare stockpiles and was held in pretrial confinement for seven months, and Nikolay Shchur, chairman of the Snezhinskiy Ecological Fund who was held in pretrial confinement for six months.
Again there's more but i'm just beating a dead horse at this point.
I can run a business without fear of arbitrary reprisal. There has been a number of high-profile cases of human rights abuses connected to business in Russia. Among other abuses, this most obviously involves abuse of article 17 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. These include the case of the former heads of the oil company Yukos, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, and Platon Lebedev whom Amnesty International declared prisoners of conscience, and the case of the lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, whose efforts to expose a conspiracy of criminals and corrupt law-enforcement officials earned him sustained abuse in prison which led to his death. An analogous case was the death in custody of the businesswoman Vera Trifonova, who was in jail for alleged fraud. Cases such as these have contributed to suspicion in other countries about the Russian justice system, which has manifested itself in the refusal to grant Russian extradition requests for businessmen fleeing abroad. Notable instances of this are the cases of the tycoon Boris Berezovsky and former Yukos vice president Alexander Temerko in the UK, the media magnate Vladimir Gusinsky in Spain and Greece, Leonid Nevzlin in Israel and Ivan Kolesnikov in Cyprus. A case that will test the attitude of the French authorities to this issue is that of the shipping magnate Vitaly Arkhangelsky. The WikiLeaks revelations indicated the low level of confidence other governments have in the Russian government on such issues. Cases involving major companies may gain coverage in the world media, but there are many further cases equally worthy of attention: a typical case involves the expropriation of assets, with criminals and corrupt law-enforcement officials collaborating to bring false charges against businesspeople, who are told that they must hand over assets to avoid criminal proceedings against them. A prominent campaigner against such abuses is Yana Yakovleva, herself a victim who set up the group Business Solidarity in the aftermath of her ordeal.
I have freedom of religion. The Constitution of Russian Federation provides for freedom of religion and the equality of all religions before the law as well as the separation of church and state. However, reports of religious abuse continue to come out of Russia. According to International Christian Concern, during 2021 "crackdowns on religious freedom have intensified in Russia." During June 2021, Forum 18 highlighted that "twice as many prisoners of conscience are serving sentences or are in detention awaiting appeals for exercising freedom of religion or belief as in November 2020." Many religious scholars and human right organizations have recently spoken up about the abuses taking place in Russia against minorities. The U.S. State Department considers Russia one of the worlds' "worst violators" of religious freedom. The influx of missionaries over the past several years has also led to pressure by groups in Russia, specifically nationalists and the Russian Orthodox Church, to limit the activities of these "nontraditional" religious groups. In response, the Duma passed a new, restrictive, and potentially discriminatory law in October 1997. The law is very complex, with many ambiguous and contradictory provisions. The law's most controversial provisions separates religious "groups" and "organizations" and introduces a 15-year rule, which allows groups that have existed for 15 years or longer to obtain accredited status. According to Russian priest and dissident Gleb Yakunin, new religion law "heavily favors the Russian Orthodox Church at the expense of all other religions, including Judaism, Catholicism, and Protestantism.", and it is "a step backward in Russia's process of democratization." Since 2017, Jehovah's Witnesses have faced persecution for unclear reasons.
This just goes on and on and this is only about the half of it and the post length is getting silly here. Next time you could just check the wiki instead of asking ridiculous questions.
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@jetli740 None of this is top secret, you should try looking things up before you post idiotic comments.
Deputy Kremlin Chief of Staff Dmitry Kozak said in 2022 that he had negotiated an agreement with Ukraine within a few days of the invasion. This settlement would have ended hostilities in exchange for guarantees that Ukraine would not join NATO. The agreement was however blocked by Putin, who "expanded his objectives to include annexing swathes of Ukrainian territory"
On 3 March, the second round of peace talks began. Both sides agreed to open humanitarian corridors for evacuating civilians. Russia's demands were Ukraine's recognition of Russian-occupied Crimea, independence for separatist-controlled Luhansk and Donetsk, and "de-militarisation" and "de-Nazification". Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba stated that while his country was ready for talks to resume, Russia's demands had not changed.
A third round of negotiations began on 7 March, amidst ongoing fighting and bombing. Dmitry Peskov restated Moscow's demands, that Ukraine should agree to change its constitution to enshrine neutrality, accept that the Crimea was Russian territory, and recognize Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states.
It goes on and on like this.
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@bigmoe9856 Here's a taste of the OSCE report, it goes on and on like this.
For the past four years, this Council has borne witness to Russia’s aggression against Ukraine. Four years into the fighting, Russia has failed to keep even the most basic of the agreements reached in Minsk. Russia has failed to respect the line of contact, leading incursions since 2014 that have claimed hundreds of square kilometers for its proxies in eastern Ukraine. Russia has failed to respect the ceasefire, making and breaking countless truces. Russia has failed to withdraw heavy weapons, consistently deploying – and firing – them in proscribed areas. And Russia has failed to uphold the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM), permitting – if not instructing – its forces to deny, detain, threaten, and even shoot at monitors, their vehicles, and their cameras and drones. Russia’s aggression has cost over 10,300 lives, wounded an estimated 25,000 more, and displaced up to two million people.
The United States and over thirty other participating States have further warned that the fighting puts critical infrastructure like the Donetsk Filtration Station (DFS) in jeopardy, leaving the Donbas at heightened risk for an environmental catastrophe. We are deeply concerned that on May 14, this critical water facility once again came under fire on the same day a bullet passed dangerously close to the head of an SMM monitor. Russia started this conflict and continues to fuel it, so Moscow is ultimately to blame for the humanitarian crisis in the Donbas. However, it is the responsibility of both sides to ensure that the unarmed civilian employees of DFS – as well as the SMM monitors who facilitate their work – are protected. We call on Russia-led forces and Ukrainian Armed Forces to immediately work toward disengagement from the Donetsk Filtration Station and other critical civilian infrastructure sites.
Mr. Chair, the Russian Federation continues to arm, train, lead, and fight alongside forces in eastern Ukraine. We remind the Permanent Council that Russia has never accounted for the presence of uniformed Russian soldiers, as reported by the SMM. Russia has never explained the presence of Russian weapon systems that are not, and have never been, a part of Ukraine’s arsenal. As reported by the SMM, these include the TOS-1 Buratino Multiple Launch Rocket System, the Zhytel R-330 jamming station, and the Orlan-10 drone. Nor has Russia ever acknowledged the tens of thousands of persons in military-style dress, whom the OSCE Border Observation Mission has seen cross into Russia-controlled parts of Ukraine. Russia has noted that OSCE observers did not witness members of its armed forces carrying weapons across the border in plain sight, yet Russian soldiers have been observed bearing weapons in the conflict zone. Last week Russia sent yet another so-called “aid convoy” across the border into eastern Ukraine, and continued to deny access to OSCE observers and Ukrainian customs officials to inspect it. If these are humanitarian shipments, as Russia claims, why are SMM monitors not allowed to inspect them? And why are they not coordinated through an international mechanism, as the Minsk agreements stipulate? It’s clear that Russia’s rhetoric is simply an attempt to distract from its lack of compliance with the Minsk agreements.
Mr. Chair, the fact remains that this conflict will only be resolved if Russia makes the decision to remove its forces from the territory of Ukraine, and allows a genuine international security presence to enter. As U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volker noted in a briefing with the U.S. Helsinki Commission last week, an internationally mandated peacekeeping force under a UN mandate would establish the conditions for the peaceful resolution of the conflict. It would also alleviate the suffering of the millions of people affected by the conflict. This peacekeeping force would be responsible for security within the conflict area, and would oversee the cantonment of heavy weapons. And it would have to establish control – not closure – of the international border between Ukraine and Russia in areas outside of Ukrainian government control. Only then would the conditions be ripe to hold local elections and ensure other political steps under the Minsk agreements are fully implemented.
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@mantas6540 Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions, Article 52, provides for the general protection of civilian objects, hindering attacks to military objectives in a war between two or more belligerents. Article 52 states, "In so far as objects are concerned, military objectives are limited to those objects which by their nature, location, purpose or use make an effective contribution to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage."
So a bridge is by definition a military target, a pizza party isn't. Got it? The bridge itself was illegally constructed on illegally occupied land, the Ukrainians warned multiple times that they were going to attack the bridge. Any civilian casualties are unfortunate but if you are a civilian and want to avoid becoming a casualty you should avoid illegally occupied territory. Particularly targets that the defenders have already stated they would destroy.
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@fred4687 Ukraine has implemented as much of Minsk as can reasonably be done while Russia still occupies its territory. The agreements require political measures on Ukraine’s side, including a special status for the region, an amnesty for those who committed crimes as part of the conflict, local elections, and some form of decentralization under the Ukrainian constitution. But the form of these measures is not specified, and Ukraine has already passed legislation addressing every point. It has passed – and extended with renewals – legislation on special status and amnesty, and already has legislation on the books governing local elections. It has passed constitutional amendments. The Minsk Agreements do not require Ukraine to grant autonomy to Donbas, or to become a federalized state. It is Russia’s unique interpretation that the measures passed by Ukraine are somehow insufficient, even though the agreements do not specify what details should be included, and Ukraine has already complied with what is actually specified to the degree it can.
What is lacking in Ukraine’s passage of these political measures is not the legislation per se, but implementation — which Russia itself prevents by continuing to occupy the territory. For example, international legal norms would never recognize the results of elections held under conditions of occupation, yet that is exactly what Russia seeks by demanding local elections before it relinquishes control. Moreover, the elections would not be for positions in the illegitimate LPR and DPR “governments” established under Russian occupation, but for the legitimate city councils, mayors, and oblast administrations that exist under Ukrainian law. Who would vote in such elections? Ukrainian law says all displaced citizens should vote. But would Russian occupation authorities allow this? These are matters for resolution under international supervision – not for Russia to dictate terms.
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@fred4687 So they annexed Crimea but didn't invade? And this makes sense to you? Moreover you are wrong about Russia not being involved in the Donbas. For starters Wagner was there, and in Putin's own words;
"Support for the entire Wagner group was fully provided by the state from the defense ministry, from the state budget, we fully funded the group."
Furthermore. After the takeover of Crimea, Wagner with some 300 PMCs went to the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine where a conflict started between Ukrainian government and pro-Russian forces. With their help, the pro-Russian forces were able to destabilize government security forces in the region, immobilize operations of local government institutions, seize ammunition stores and take control of towns. The PMCs conducted sneak attacks, reconnaissance, intelligence-gathering and accompanied VIPs. The Wagner Group PMCs reportedly took part in the June 2014 Il-76 airplane shoot-down at Luhansk International Airport and the early 2015 Battle of Debaltseve, which involved one of the heaviest artillery bombardments in recent history, as well as reportedly hundreds of regular Russian soldiers. Its time to rejoin reality, stop spreading lies.
Sources: Faulkner, Christopher (June 2022). Cruickshank, Paul; Hummel, Kristina (eds.). "Undermining Democracy and Exploiting Clients: The Wagner Group's Nefarious Activities in Africa" (PDF). CTC Sentinel. West Point, New York: Combating Terrorism Center. Butusov, Yurii (31 March 2016). "Mystery of Wagner's identity unfolded: he is Russian officer and head of large private military company in Russia, who eliminated Mozgovoy, Dremov, and other terrorist leaders, and now is fighting in Syria. Retrieved 18 September 2017. "Kremlin's mercenary armies kill in both Syrian, Ukrainian wars | – Ukraine's Global. Korotkov, Denis (16 October 2015). "Славянский корпус" возвращается в Сирию (in Russian. Retrieved 18 September 2017. "SBU exposes involvement of Russian 'Wagner PMC' headed by Utkin in destroying Il-76 in Donbas, Debaltseve events – Hrytsak". Interfax-Ukraine. 7 October 2017. Retrieved 7 October 2017.
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@davidlloyd2583 "The Russians have run into a lot of problems. They've got command-and-control issues, logistics issues. They've got morale issues, leadership issues and a wide variety of other issues.”
Failures of command result in a lot of wasted shells and rockets and all-too-frequent friendly-fire incidents. Even when artillery is hitting nothing or, worse, hitting allied positions, the gunners just keep blasting away.
There’s a “near-absence of reversionary courses of action” in the Russian fire-control system, analysts Mykhaylo Zabrodskyi, Jack Watling, Oleksandr Danylyuk and Nick Reynolds explained in a study for the Royal United Services Institute in London.
What that means is, in Russian doctrine, brigades, battalions and batteries tend to freeze up in the absence of detailed instructions from higher command. While awaiting fresh orders, lower units just keep doing what they already were doing. Even when it doesn’t make sense. Even when the current course of action is killing friendly troops.
“This approach has probably had the greatest impact in creating a gap between potential and actual capability as regards Russian fires,” Zabrodskyi, Watling, Danylyuk and Reynolds wrote.
Russian gunners simply don’t think for themselves. “All reported contacts are treated as true. All fire missions appear to be given equal priority and are prosecuted in the order in which they are received unless an order to prioritize a specific mission comes from higher authority.”
“It seems that those directing fire missions either do not have access to contextual information or are indifferent to it,” the analysts added.
Ukrainian gunners shoot, correct their aim, shoot again—and entirely change up their schemes of fire when those schemes aren’t working. Russian gunners, on the other hand, tend to blast away at the wrong coordinates while awaiting new orders from division. Orders that might never come.
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@againstviralmisinformation510 There were Russian's fighting against Ukraine since 2014. You can pretend otherwise if you want. Here's what strelkov said "I'm the one who pulled the trigger of war. If our unit hadn't crossed the border, everything would have fizzled out, like in Kharkiv, like in Odessa". He said his unit was formed in Crimea and consisted of volunteers from Russia."
Wagner was there, and as Putin said “I want to point out and I want everyone to know about it: The maintenance of the entire Wagner Group was fully provided for by the state. From the Ministry of Defense, from the state budget, we fully financed this group.” Making it a branch of the Russian miitary. Prigozhin admitted they were in the Donbas. "From ’14 until ’22, Donbass was being carved up. Donbass was being pillaged by various people, some of them were from the presidential administration, some from the Federal Security Service (FSB), and some were attracted oligarchs, like Kurchenko. These are the people who stole money from the residents of Donbass, who were in the unrecognized republics of LNR and DNR...We were shooting at them, they were shooting at us, and this was happening for all these long 8 years from ’14 to ’22."
Do you know what a casualty is? Most casualties don't get to retire. They get wounded and unless they are kia or maimed they go back to the fight. Do you know how reserves work? You can have 40k fighting in a battle and send in reserves to cover losses. I'm sure you think you know better than the people there, but dont expect anyone to take you serious.
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@againstviralmisinformation510 There were Russian's fighting against Ukraine since 2014. You can pretend otherwise if you want. Here's what strelkov said "I'm the one who pulled the trigger of war. If our unit hadn't crossed the border, everything would have fizzled out, like in Kharkiv, like in Odessa". He said his unit was formed in Crimea and consisted of volunteers from Russia."
Wagner was there, and as Putin said “I want to point out and I want everyone to know about it: The maintenance of the entire Wagner Group was fully provided for by the state. From the Ministry of Defense, from the state budget, we fully financed this group.” Making it a branch of the Russian miitary.
Prigozhin admitted they were in the Donbas. "From ’14 until ’22, Donbass was being carved up. Donbass was being pillaged by various people, some of them were from the presidential administration, some from the fsb, and some were attracted oligarchs, like Kurchenko. These are the people who stole money from the residents of Donbass, who were in the unrecognized republics of LNR and DNR...We were shooting at them, they were shooting at us, and this was happening for all these long 8 years from ’14 to ’22."
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@againstviralmisinformation510
23.12.23 Sai Baba
Bab el-Mandeb
Gabon
Two anti-ship ballistic missiles fired at shipping lanes, but missed. Crude oil tanker sailing from Russia hit by drone, but continued voyage. (the destination isn't stated, probably because Russia has a bunch of unregistered ships roaming around these days. Most likely it was headed to China or India.) The source is CENTCOM.
There was a hearing, Kyiv took them to court, not sure what you think the US has to do with it. On 16 March 2022 by 13 votes to 2, the ICJ ordered provisional measures. The ICJ held that it was ‘necessary for the Court to indicate certain measures in order to protect the right of Ukraine that the Court has found to be plausible’.
The Court firstly ordered that Russia should ‘immediately suspend the military operations that it commenced on 24 February 2022 in the territory of Ukraine’. Secondly, the Court, again by 13 votes to 2, ordered that Russia should ‘ensure that any military or irregular armed units which may be directed or supported by it … take no steps in furtherance of the military operations’.
The genocide case is still pending and will likely be a few more years.
I have no idea how you lie so confidently about something so untrue. Is it ignorance, malice or just a compulsive liar?
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@Alexus095 Ukraine hadn't even finished mobilizing by then. Lines were established some time after Severodonesk was taken, after which nobody has taken much of anything. Russian mil blogger Murz claimed Russia lost a minimum 16k kia in Avdiivka, other Russian sources have it up over 20k, all for a mid sized town a few miles across the border. The "city" of Marinka has a pre war population of ten thousand. Soledar was about the same, the fact that you are celebrating every village captured speaks volumes about the state of the invasion. In two years Germany had taken Europe and still lost, Russia has hardly advanced a few miles across the border.
"lines were established when Ukraine put up an organized armed resistance, perhaps within 1month after the invasion. Ever since Russia have been pushing those lines." Well except when Russia lost 50% of the territory they occupied, did you forget about that?
Russia has a firepower advantage but Ukraine has an accuracy/effective fire advantage, they also have defenders advantage. All the photographic evidence has Russia losses around 3.5 that of Ukraine's, that was before their recent advance at all costs directive. Russia still can't even take the Donbas bud, its time to face reality.
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@Chipolinou Russia didn't lose any battles in Chechnya either? You really do like rewriting history. I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit but try to read it before you spam the same brainless comment again.
So when On 6 March 1996, a group of Chechen fighters infiltrated Grozny and launched a three-day surprise raid on the city, taking most of it and capturing caches of weapons and ammunition. During the battle, much of the Russian troops were wiped out, with most of them surrendering or routing. After a couple columns of Russian reinforcements were destroyed on the roads leading to the city, Russian troops eventually gave up on trying to reach the trapped soldiers in the city. This wasn't a loss in your tiny brain for some reason?
Or when On April 16, a month after the initial conflict, Chechen fighters successfully carried out an ambush near Shatoy, wiping out an entire Russian armored column resulting in losses up to 220 soldiers killed in action. In another attack near Vedeno, at least 28 Russian soldiers were killed in action. This was a victory for the Russian army in your mind?
Or the Third Battle of Grozny where Russian troops in and around Grozny were overran in the key districts within hours in Operation Zero). The fighters then laid siege to the Russian posts and bases and the government compound in the city centre, while a number of Chechens deemed to be Russian collaborators were rounded up, detained and, in some cases, executed. At the same time, Russian troops in the cities of Argun and Gudermes were also surrounded in their garrisons. Several attempts by the armored columns to rescue the units trapped in Grozny were repelled with heavy Russian casualties (the 276th Motorized Regiment of 900 men suffered 50% casualties in a two-day attempt to reach the city centre). Russian military officials said that more than 200 soldiers had been killed and nearly 800 wounded in five days of fighting, and that an unknown number were missing; Chechens put the number of Russian dead at close to 1,000. Thousands of troops were either taken prisoner or surrounded and largely disarmed, their heavy weapons and ammunition commandeered by Chechen fighters. Another Russia victory if you have a tenuous grasp on reality.
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@k1rantbeta843 Prigozhin also said. "In 2014 Russians went to Donbass, and we held our ground in Donbass... the fate of Donbass remained in limbo. From ’14 until ’22, Donbass was being carved up. Donbass was being pillaged by various people, some of them were from the presidential administration, some from the FSB, and some were attracted oligarchs, like Kurchenko. These are the people who stole money from the residents of Donbass, who were in the unrecognized republics of LNR and DNR....We were shooting at them, they were shooting at us, and this was happening for all these long 8 years from ’14 to ’22. Sometimes the number of different shootouts, roughly speaking, the exchange of ammunition, the exchange of shots, sometimes increased, sometimes decreased."
This goes on and on, I think the only person who pretends Russia wasn't in the Donbas is you.
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@attilamarics3374 Stop with the lies.
What did Arakhamia actually say?
Davit Arakhamia spoke on the air of Ukrainian 1+1 about the negotiations with Russia in 2022. According to Arakhamia, the Russian delegation promised Ukraine peace in exchange for refusing to join NATO.
“They were hoping almost to the end to put pressure on us to sign such a document and accept neutrality. It was a big deal for them. They were ready to end the war if we, like Finland once did, would accept neutrality and pledge not to join NATO. In fact, that was the main point. All the rest are cosmetic and political “additions” to denazification, the Russian-speaking population, and blah blah blah…” Arakhamia said.
To the journalist’s question why Ukraine did not agree to this point, Arakhamia answered that there was no trust in the Russians.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief.
Also, when we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them and would just fight. – said Arakhamia.
Arakhamia also denied the fact that the Ukrainian delegation was ready to sign the document and Boris Johnson stopped them. According to his own words, the Western partners were informed about the negotiations and had seen the draft versions of the agreement, but they did not make decisions on behalf of Ukraine and could only give advice.
“In fact, they advised us not to agree to Russia’s ephemeral guarantees, which were impossible to give then.” – said David Arakhamia.
Accordingly, David Arakhamia did not say that Ukraine was ready to sign a document promising peace in exchange for neutrality. Arakhamia’s interview reveals that Ukraine was not going to sign the document even before receiving Boris Johnson’s advice, therefore, it is manipulative to claim that the Russia-Ukraine agreement failed because of Boris Johnson or that Ukraine made the decision because of his position.
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@yagsipcc287 Sergey Chemezov, CEO of the state-owned Rostec said about the economy. "There is no 20 percent profitability anywhere. Even the sale of weapons does not bring such a profit,"
"It is simply not profitable for enterprises to use borrowed funds, as I have already said many times. It is just that if we continue to work like this, then practically the majority of enterprises will go bankrupt," he said.
He warned that this situation could lead to "stagflation," referring to economic conditions of slow growth, high unemployment, and rising prices.
Chemezov's concerns echo those made recently by other Russian businessmen, who warn that the high borrowing costs could hamper economic growth. Nabiullina countered that lowering interest rates will lead to rampant inflation. So one of those is Russia's future, stagflation or hyperinflation.
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@yagsipcc287 Sergey Chemezov, CEO of the state-owned Rostec said about the economy. "It is simply not profitable for enterprises to use borrowed funds, as I have already said many times. It is just that if we continue to work like this, then practically the majority of enterprises will go bankrupt,"
He warned that this situation could lead to "stagflation," referring to economic conditions of slow growth, high unemployment, and rising prices.
His concerns echo those made recently by other businessmen, who warn that the high borrowing costs could hamper economic growth. Nabiullina countered, saying that lowering interest rates will lead to run away inflation. So one of those is Russia's future, stagflation or hyperinflation.
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@gfhomeNevashedelo Wagner was regular Russian forces. Putin admitted as much. "I want to point out and I want everyone to know about it: The maintenance of the entire Wagner Group was fully provided for by the state. From the Ministry of Defense, from the state budget, we fully financed this group.”
The Russian Federation initially denied that the 'little green men' in Crimea were Russian military forces, but on 17 April 2014 Russian President Vladimir Putin finally confirmed the presence of the Russian military. Furthermore, numerous sources, including Russian state media, have confirmed that the "little green men" were a mix of operatives from the Special Operations Forces and various other Spetsnaz GRU units. It likely also included paratroopers of the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade of the VDV, and Wagner Group military contractors.
These same 'little green men' were present in the Donbas. While their status as troops acting under the orders of the Russian government was continually denied, their nationality was not. Alexander Borodai, Prime Minister of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic, stated that 50,000 Russian citizens fought in the Donbas up to August 2015, and argued that they should receive the same benefits as Russia's other war veterans.
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@gfhomeNevashedelo The Russian Federation initially denied that the 'little green men' in Crimea were Russian military forces, but on 17 April 2014 Russian Putin finally confirmed the presence of the Russian military. Furthermore, numerous sources, including Russian state media, have confirmed that the "little green men" were a mix of operatives from the Special Operations Forces and various other Spetsnaz GRU units. It likely also included paratroopers of the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade of the VDV, and Wagner Group military contractors.
These same "Little green men" were present in the Donbas. While their status as troops acting under the orders of the Russian government was continually denied, their nationality was not. Alexander Borodai, Prime Minister of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic, stated that 50,000 Russian citizens fought in the Donbas up to August 2015, and argued that they should receive the same benefits as Russia's other war veterans.
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@gfhomeNevashedelo The Russian Federation initially denied that there were Russian forces in Crimea, but on 17 April 2014 Russian President Vladimir Putin finally confirmed the presence of the Russian military, these same LGM were present in the Donbas. Furthermore, numerous sources, including Russian state media, have confirmed that the "little green men" were a mix of operatives from the Special Operations Forces and various other Spetsnaz GRU units. It likely also included paratroopers of the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade of the VDV, and Wagner While their status as troops acting under the orders of the Russian government has been continually denied, just like Crimea, their nationality was not. Alexander Borodai, Prime Minister of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic, stated that 50,000 Russian citizens fought in the Donbas up to August 2015, and argued that they should receive the same benefits as Russia's other war veterans
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$850 billion in debt held by the People’s Republic of China. China, however, is currently in default on its sovereign debt held by American bondholders.
Before 1949, the government of the Republic of China issued a large volume of long-term sovereign gold-denominated bonds, secured by Chinese tax revenues, to private investors and governments for the construction of infrastructure and financing of governmental activities. Put simply, the China we know today would not have been possible absent these bond offerings.
In 1938, during its conflict with Japan, the ROC defaulted on its sovereign debt. After the military victory of the communists, the ROC government fled to Taiwan. The People’s Republic of China was eventually recognized internationally as the successor government of China. Under well-established international law, the “successor government” doctrine holds that the current government of China, led by the Chinese Communist Party, is responsible for repayment of the defaulted bonds.
A private group of American citizens holds a large quantity of these gold-denominated bonds. This citizen-led group, the American Bondholders Foundation , serves as trustee with power of attorney for some 20,000 bondholders, whose bonds are valued at well more than $1 trillion.
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@AmadeusMozart-yk5uk No, Russia just has to go with cap in hand Iran and North Korea for weapons. Interesting you bring up WW2, that was the war that Russia would have lost without western aid, remember? It was also a defensive war, Germany were the aggressors, just like Russia is now the aggressors, and there were many people who made the same argument then that you are making now. The main difference is Germany was actually doing well, they had conquered most of Europe, Russia can't even take Vovchansk, which is five miles across the border.
This is year three and Russia still can't even take the Donbas, their gains can be described as marginal at best. they have also been reduced to using golf carts and dirt bikes. Russia has multiple failed offensives this war, including its current failed Donbas offensive, which still hasn't managed to take as much ground as Ukraine's summer offensive. Plus their disastrous Kherson offensive, which as bad as its been still went better than their first attempt two years ago.
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@AmadeusMozart-yk5uk I didn't say that Russia was begging I said they went with hat in hand, they are in fact paying a highly inflated price because they have no real allies. The reason they had to do this is a shortage of weapons, there is no real difference between the two outside of your mind.
If Putin was going to use nukes he would have already, he doesn't have a big red button in his office or something, if he gives the order he will be escorted out the nearest seventh story window by the FSB. Nobody takes your fear trolling seriously.
The US was sending the Russian's lend lease long before they entered the war, wouldn't that make it a proxy war by your definition? I'm also not sure what difference your arbitrary distinction is supposed to make.
Nobody in Europe want to see the Russians succeed, neither do a sizable majority of people in the US, both are ramping up their military production, it won't be long until Russia is being outproduced by a huge margin. You are right, nobody really fears Russia, they are far weaker than we thought, which is why aid will continue to be sent until they lose. Russia is already using T54's and golf carts, according to satellite images Russia has roughly a year before it burns through the last of its Soviet stockpile of equipment.
To be honest I have no idea what argument you are trying to make. It's a lost cause for Ukraine but also Russia is weak and nobody is afraid of them, and "they lost huge amounts of territories and suffered huge defeats" however that doesn't matter because they are ruled by an iron fist, or something (Putin has nowhere near the control as Stalin, but whatever). Look out though because they might nuke someone (no they won't). Russia's perceptions as to whether they are attacking or defending is also completely irrelevant, the reality is they are attacking, and must deal with all the problems that entails.
Thankfully your arguments are confused and unconvincing and people like you aren't in charge of our foreign policy, either now or duing WW2.
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@AmadeusMozart-yk5uk I didn't say that Russia was begging I said they went with hat in hand, they are in fact paying a highly inflated price because they have no real allies. The reason they had to do this is a shortage of weapons, there is no real difference outside of your mind.
If Putin was going to use nukes he would have already, he doesn't have a big red button in his office or something, if he gives the order he will be escorted out the nearest seventh story window by the FSB.
The US was sending the Russian's lend lease long before they entered the war, wouldn't that make it a proxy war by your definition? I'm also not sure what difference your arbitrary distinction is supposed to make.
Nobody in Europe want to see the Russians succeed, neither do a sizable majority of people in the US, both are ramping up their military production, it won't be long until the west is outproducing them by a huge margin. You are right, nobody really fears Russia, they are far weaker than we thought, which is why aid will continue to be sent until they lose. Russia is already using T54's and golf carts, according to satellite images Russia has roughly a year before it burns through the last of its Soviet stockpile of equipment.
To be honest I have no idea what argument you are trying to make. It's a lost cause for Ukraine but also Russia is weak and nobody is afraid of them, and "they lost huge amounts of territories and suffered huge defeats" however that doesn't matter because they are ruled by an iron fist, or something (Putin has nowhere near the control as S, but whatever). Look out though because they might nuke someone (no they won't). Russia's perceptions as to whether they are attacking or defending is also completely irrelevant, the reality is they are attacking, and must deal with all the problems that entails.
Thankfully your arguments are confused and unconvincing and people like you aren't in charge of our foreign policy, either now or in WW2.
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@AmadeusMozart-yk5uk I didn't say that they were begging, I said they went with hat in hand, they are in fact paying a highly inflated price because they have no true allies. The reason they had to do this is a shortage of weapons, there is no real difference between the two, aside from the price.
If Russia was going to use their A-bombs they would have already, he doesn't have a big red button in his office or something, if he gives the order he will be escorted to the nearest eighth story window by his intelligence agencies who may feel they have something to lose, of course he knows this already.
The US was sending the Russian's lend lease long before they entered ww2, wouldn't that make it a proxy conflict by your definition? I'm also not sure what difference your arbitrary distinction is supposed to make.
Nobody in Europe want to see the Russians succeed, neither do a sizable majority of people in the US, both are ramping up their military production, it won't be long until the west is outproducing them by a huge margin. You are right, nobody really fears Russia, well aside from their neighbors who they keep invading, they are far weaker than we thought, which is why aid will continue to be sent until they lose. Russia is already using T54's and golf carts, according to satellite images they have roughly a year before they burn through the last of its Soviet stockpile of equipment.
To be honest I have no idea what argument you are trying to make. It's a lost cause for Ukraine but also Russia is weak and nobody is afraid of them, and "they lost huge amounts of territories and suffered huge defeats" however that doesn't matter because they are ruled by an iron fist, or something (Vlad has nowhere near the control as Joe S, but whatever). And look out though because they might nook someone (no they won't). Russia's perceptions as to whether they are attacking or defending is also completely irrelevant, the reality is they are attacking, and must deal with all the problems that entails.
Thankfully your arguments are confused and unconvincing and people like you aren't in charge of our foreign policy, either now or eighty years ago.
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@AmadeusMozart-yk5uk Lets review, just for a laugh. First I point out multiple conflicts Russia has lost, after you erroneously claimed that Afghanistan was the only one they walked away empty handed. You hand wave them away calling them "not comparable" for some reason you made up, they are comparable, but ok. You bring up the specter of atomic weapons, when I point out that they had them in Chechnya and Afghanistan when they lost, you ignore the issue and ask a silly question. "what will Russian defeat look like." It will look the same as any other country that loses a war, obviously.
You then say you can't see how Russia will ever pull out of the Donbas, what you can imagine is irrelevant. Nobody saw Germany withdrawing from Prussia in WW2 even though it was full of Germans, and they were far stronger and more successful than the present day Russians are, they were forced out, which is what happens in wars you lose. When I point out Russia withdrew from Kherson and Kharkiv you say that doesn't count, for reason you made up in your head, they aren't important to the Russians, or something. I guess you spoke to them, or maybe are a mind reader.
You then misunderstand my argument about lend lease during WW2, because again in your mind no two wars can be comparable, for reasons you invented. Though you do say " I am aware that lend lease had a big impact, and the aid kept flowing." Yes, just like how the aid will keep flowing to Ukraine until Russia is defeated. I'm not sure what is difficult to understand about this.
As far as I can tell your only real argument is we better not help because we might get nuked. Which is silly bud.
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@lape2002 Where did you get that harebrained idea? Here are the top ten, there are many others. The US invented micro chips, do you really think they dont manufacture any? Why not spend five seconds on google instead of posting idiotic comments?
Company City State Number of Employees
Intel Corp. Hillsboro OR 19,300
L3Harris Technologies, Inc., ISR Systems Greenville TX 5,500
Intel Corp. Folsom CA 5,300
QUALCOMM, Inc. San Diego CA 5,279
Amkor Technology, Inc. Tempe AZ 5,000
NXP Semiconductors USA, Inc. Austin TX 5,000
GlobalFoundries, Inc. Hopewell Junction NY 4,000
Samsung Austin Semiconductor, LLC Austin TX 3,500
Enphase Energy Petaluma CA 2,500
GlobalFoundries US2, LLC Essex Junction VT 2,100
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@abandonedbuildingexplorer NATO intervened in the former Yugoslavia to stop bloodshed and save lives. From 1992-1995, NATO conducted several military operations in Bosnia, including enforcing a no-fly-zone and providing air support for UN peacekeepers. These activities were mandated by the United Nations Security Council, of which Russia is a member. NATO air strikes against Bosnian Serb positions in 1995 helped pave the way for the Dayton peace agreement, which ended the war in Bosnia that had killed over 100,000 people. From 1996, NATO led multinational peacekeeping forces in Bosnia, which included troops from Russia. The European Union took over that mission in 2004.
NATO's operation in Kosovo in 1999 followed a year of intense international diplomatic efforts, which included Russia, to end the conflict. The UN Security Council repeatedly branded the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and the growing number of refugees as a threat to international peace and security. NATO's mission helped to end large-scale and sustained violations of human rights and the killing of civilians. KFOR, NATO's ongoing peacekeeping mission in Kosovo, has a UNSC mandate (UNSCR 1244) and is supported by both Belgrade and Pristina.
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@abandonedbuildingexplorer NATO intervened in the former Yugoslavia to stop the war and save lives. From 1992-1995, NATO conducted several military operations in Bosnia, including enforcing a no-fly-zone and providing air support for UN peacekeepers. These activities were mandated by the United Nations Security Council, of which Russia is a member. NATO air strikes against Bosnian Serb positions in 1995 helped pave the way for the Dayton peace agreement, which ended the war in Bosnia that had seen the death of over 100,000 people and millions more refugees. From 1996, NATO led multinational peacekeeping forces in Bosnia, which included troops from Russia. The European Union took over that mission in 2004.
NATO's operation in Kosovo in 1999 followed a year of intense international diplomatic efforts, which included Russia, to end the conflict. The UN Security Council repeatedly branded the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo and the growing number of refugees as a threat to international peace and security. NATO's mission helped to end large-scale and sustained violations of human rights and the targeting of civilians. KFOR, NATO's ongoing peacekeeping mission in Kosovo, has a UNSC mandate (UNSCR 1244) and is supported by both Belgrade and Pristina.
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@TrevorCrook-c1s The Minsk deals require a ceasefire, withdrawal of foreign military forces, disbanding of illegal armed groups, and returning control of the Ukrainian side of the international border with Russia to Ukraine, all of this under OSCE supervision. Russia has done none of this.
Ukraine had implemented as much of Minsk as can reasonably be done while Russia still occupies its territory. The agreements require political measures on Ukraine’s side, including a special status for the region, an amnesty for those who committed crimes as part of the conflict, local elections, and some form of decentralization under the Ukrainian constitution. But the form of these measures is not specified, and Ukraine has already passed legislation addressing every point. It has passed, and extended with renewals, legislation on special status and amnesty, and already has legislation on the books governing local elections. It has passed constitutional amendments. The only thing preventing Minsk from being completed was Russia still occupied Ukrainian territory.
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@histrion5390 The Minsk Agreements do not require Ukraine to grant full autonomy to Donbas, or to become a federalized state. It is Russia’s unique interpretation that the measures passed by Ukraine are somehow insufficient, even though the agreements do not specify what details should be included, and Ukraine has already complied with what is actually specified to the degree it can.
What is lacking in Ukraine’s passage of these political measures is not the legislation, but implementation, which Russia itself prevented by continuing to occupy the territory. For example, international legal norms would never recognize the results of elections held under conditions of occupation, yet that is exactly what Russia wanted by demanding local elections before it relinquishes control. Moreover, the elections would not be for positions in the illegitimate LPR and DPR “governments” established under Russian occupation, but for the legitimate city councils, mayors, and oblast administrations that exist under Ukrainian law. Who would vote in such elections? Ukrainian law says all displaced citizens should vote. But would Russian occupation authorities allow this? Would Russian citizens who've entered the Donbas since the takeover be allowed to vote, as they were in Crimea? These are matters for resolution under international supervision not for Russia to dictate terms.
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@histrion5390 Some form of neutral peacekeeping or policing force could help bridge between Russian control and Ukrainian control of the occupied territory, but Russia has rejected such proposals. Because of the impossibility of Ukraine implementing political measures while Russia still occupies its territory, the US as well as Ukraine, with support from others proposed deployment of a UN peacekeeping force to Donbas, so that Russian forces could withdraw, and an UN backed force could deploy, without an immediate hand over to Ukrainian control. This could allow time and space for local elections to occur, and for the implementation of special status and amnesty legislation. Russia, however, has consistently rejected such proposals, even labeling any UN supported peacekeeping force a “military takeover” of the region, when of course it is Russia that has actually taken over the region militarily and unilaterally.
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@_Melian_Dialogue_ No they didn't, here's what the peace negotiator Davit Arakhamia actually said.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
Accordingly, David Arakhamia did not say that Ukraine was ready to sign a document promising peace in exchange for neutrality. Arakhamia’s interview reveals that Ukraine was not going to sign the document even before receiving Boris Johnson’s advice, therefore, it is manipulative to claim that the Russia-Ukraine agreement failed because of Boris Johnson or that Ukraine made the decision because of his position.
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@gurglejug627 Here's some more just incase that isn't enough for you.
In 1999, bombs exploded in a number of apartment buildings in Russia, killing 293 civilians.
The bombings were attributed to Chechen terrorism, driving up patriotic support for Russia’s military in invading Chechnya. When one bomb was detected and defused in the city of Ryazan before it went off, new Prime Minister Putin praised the people of Ryazan for their vigilance.
His subsequent strong leadership during the Chechen War was key to his election as president in March 2000.
Yet forensics, eyewitness accounts and whistleblower revelations all indicated that Russia’s security service, the FSB, planted the Ryazan bomb.
The commission established to investigate the FSB’s role in all the bombings discontinued its work in 2003 when two key members died violent deaths. Deputy Sergei Yushenkov was gunned down, and investigative journalist Yuri Shchekochikhin died in a hospital from an “unknown allergen” that shut down all his vital organs. FSB whistleblower Alexander Litvinenko, who directly accused Vladimir Putin of involvement in the apartment bombings, was poisoned in London in 2006.
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@billcarson818 So you don't believe what Arakhamia said but you use him as proof? Do you understand how idiotic that sounds?
The quote I gave from him was his clarification of his statement. I'll post it again try to read it carefully.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
Arakhamia also denied the fact that the Ukrainian delegation was ready to sign the document and Boris Johnson stopped them. According to his own words, the Western partners were informed about the negotiations and had seen the draft versions of the agreement, but "they did not make decisions on behalf of Ukraine and could only give advice."
Accordingly, David Arakhamia did not say that Ukraine was ready to sign a document promising peace in exchange for neutrality. Arakhamia’s interview reveals that Ukraine was not going to sign the document even before receiving Boris Johnson’s advice, therefore, it is manipulative to claim that the Russia-Ukraine agreement failed because of Boris Johnson or that Ukraine made the decision because of his position.
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@tasospanagiotou7823 Russia is doing a pretty good job proving NATO right. Once more because I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Russia gets no say in what other sovereign states do, not Bulgaria, not Finland, not Ukraine. There was never any deal regarding NATO expansion (please provide the treaty for that) This is just another Putin fantasy. Gee I wonder why the ex com bloc countries, who had to put up with decades or centuries of Russian occupation would want to prevent that from happening again.
If the Baltics weren't in NATO then all the garbage Russia is doing in Ukraine would have already been done there, oh no Russian nationals are in some form of imaginary danger better annex the Baltics to save them. Same thing in Georgia, same BS over and over.
Poland is concerned about Russian expansion by your logic they can invade Belarus right? It's such a brainless way of thinking it makes me wonder how you are able to use the internet, do you have a helper?
And pesky NATO wont even let the Serbs do any ethnic cleansing. NATO bombing killed about 1,000 members of the Yugoslav security forces in addition to between 489 and 528 civilians. Yugoslavs had killed 1,500 to 2,131 combatants.10,317 civilians were killed or missing, with 85% of those being Kosovar Albanian and some 848,000 were expelled from Kosovo. Of course these numbers pale in comparison to the civilian casualties caused by Russia in Ukraine in its delusional pursuit of empire.
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@Komeshokakunanwene Most sent minor delegations. The only leaders to attend were:
Egypt, Mozambique, Burundi, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Eritrea, the Central African Republic, Libya, Cameroon, Senegal, South Africa, Burkina Faso, Guinea-Bissau, Mali, and Congo.
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@zjpdarkblaze Ukraine is fighting for its survival, Russia is fighting to gain some more land. Russia can absorb more losses but with different motivations there is no guarantee that they will, Russia has already had one attempted coup so far this war. They could have absorbed far more losses in WW1 but instead the country fell apart. Meanwhile in WW2, a war where they were fighting for survival they were willing to take staggering losses. The Soviets were also dependent on western donations and they still won.
Russia has a long history of losing offensive wars they should win. The Russian-Japan war, Polish-Soviet war, Afghanistan, the first Chechen war. They could have taken far more losses in these wars if they were willing to, but they didn't.
Also stop pretending you know how many losses Ukraine has, neither of us know. The best we can tell is a guess based on equipment and infer casualties based on that, which photographic evidence indicates is around 3-1 in favor of Ukraine, and that was before Russia's recent ill advised offensive. There is no indication that any collapse is imminent for either side and it is likely this war will last for years or even decades longer.
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@robertatkins9419 No you aren't. Here's a direct quote from the US DoD.
"Of course, this comes on top of the personnel costs, and we estimate at least 315,000 Russian forces have been either killed or wounded in the fight. And you've heard a lot about Russian losses in the Black Sea as well, and since February of 2022, Ukrainian forces have sunk, destroyed, or damaged at least 20 medium to large Russian Federation Navy vessels and one Russian-flagged tanker in the Black Sea."
Keep in mind that all western estimates are for the Russian army only, it doesn't include Chechens, PMC's like Wagner, LPR/DPR or penal battalions.
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@osanebiuche7476 Russia isn't the USSR but they are their successors, obviously. You can pretend they aren't the same but why does Russia have a spot on the security council? why is the leader ex KGB? why did they inherit all the USSR's treaties? why are a majority of the leadership the same leaders from the Soviet Union, or their decedents? What was the captol of the Soviet Union?
The Russian federation is even more inept then the USSR though, they cant even make ball bearings anymore. and Russia has a long history of military humiliation, Russo-Polish war, Russo-Japanese war, Winter war, the first Chechen war (they were getting humiliated in the second one too until Kadyrov sold out)
Russia isnt going to nuke anyone, just like they didnt when they lost in Afghanistan and Chechnya, did you know China has a treaty to protect Ukraine from nuclear aggression? I bet you didnt.
The USSR collapsed primarily because it spent all its money on its military and nothing else, though there were other reasons. Russia collapsed twice in the 20th century, 3 times if you count 1905. They are past due and it wouldn't be surprising to see them collapse again.
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@YUDNSAY “First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief.
"Also, when we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them and would just fight."
Arakhamia also denied the fact that the Ukrainian delegation was ready to sign the document and Boris Johnson stopped them. According to his own words, the Western partners were informed about the negotiations and had seen the draft versions of the agreement, but they did not make decisions on behalf of Ukraine and could only give advice.
“In fact, they advised us not to agree to Russia’s ephemeral guarantees, which were impossible to give then.” – said David Arakhamia.
Accordingly, David Arakhamia did not say that Ukraine was ready to sign a document promising peace in exchange for neutrality. Arakhamia’s interview reveals that Ukraine was not going to sign the document even before receiving Boris Johnson’s advice, therefore, it is manipulative to claim that the Russia-Ukraine agreement failed because of Boris Johnson or that Ukraine made the decision because of his position.
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@lg2058 Here's direct from the Wiki on the topic.
Russia and Ukraine started peace negotiations the next day after the start of the Russian invasion, on 28 February 2022 in Belarus. Initially, Russia demanded Ukraine's effective capitulation. While the Russian blitzkrieg plan to take Kyiv stalled, a series of further meetings took place. By the end of March 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators were successful in getting their positions closer together. After failing to blitz-takeover Kyiv and Kharkiv, taking heavy casualties and being forced to retreat off Kyiv oblast, Putin, as reported by the US magazine Foreign Affairs, was ready to put the status of Crimea up for discussion.
The negotiating teams produced the Istanbul Communiqué, "Key Provisions of the Treaty on Ukraine's Security Guarantees" – a framework of a possible agreement. The treaty would declare Ukraine to be allowed to apply for EU membership and to be a neutral state, put a limit on the size of its military forces, cease NATO membership plans, forbid foreign military bases, and list Russia and Western countries, among which were the US and the UK, as guarantors, obliged to assist Ukraine in case of aggression against it. The status of Crimea would have to be negotiated after 10 to 15 years.
Following the discovery of Russian atrocities in Bucha at the beginning of April 2022 and public anger in Ukraine at the atrocities, Zelenskyy called for Russia to be expelled from the United Nations Security Council, but intense work on the treaty continued. Disagreements still present included Ukraine's military forces' size, and Russia's newly raised demand that in the event of an attack, guarantors come to Ukraine's defence "on the basis of a decision agreed to by all guarantor states", thus giving Russia the possibility to veto a military response by the guarantors. Ukraine rejected the demand
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@lg2058 Your false claims about Arakhamia have already been addressed, why am I not surprised you didn't read it. Turkish President Erdoğan stated that Ukraine was ready to agree to 4 out of Russia's 6 demands. He claimed Ukraine was prepared to renounce NATO membership and to make Russian Ukraine's second official language. According to Erdoğan Ukraine was not prepared to recognize the Russian occupation of Crimea or parts of Luhansk and Donetsk Oblasts.
The negotiating teams produced the Istanbul Communiqué, "Key Provisions of the Treaty on Ukraine's Security Guarantees" – a framework of a possible agreement. The treaty would declare Ukraine to be allowed to apply for EU membership and to be a neutral state, put a limit on the size of its military forces, cease NATO membership plans, forbid foreign military bases, and list Russia and Western countries, among which were the US and the UK, as guarantors, obliged to assist Ukraine in case of aggression against it. The status of Crimea would have to be negotiated after 10 to 15 years.
Following the discovery of Russian atrocities in Bucha at the beginning of April 2022 and public anger in Ukraine at the atrocities, Zelenskyy called for Russia to be expelled from the United Nations Security Council, but intense work on the treaty continued. Disagreements still present included Ukraine's military forces' size, and Russia's newly raised demand that in the event of an attack, guarantors come to Ukraine's defence "on the basis of a decision agreed to by all guarantor states", thus giving Russia the possibility to veto a military response by the guarantors. Ukraine rejected the demand
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@lg2058 Obviously you haven't read the OSCE reports, which isn't surprising. Here's a preview. It goes on and on like this.
For the past four years, this Council has borne witness to Russia’s aggression against Ukraine. Four years into the fighting, Russia has failed to keep even the most basic of the agreements reached in Minsk. Russia has failed to respect the line of contact, leading incursions since 2014 that have claimed hundreds of square kilometers for its proxies in eastern Ukraine. Russia has failed to respect the ceasefire, making and breaking countless truces. Russia has failed to withdraw heavy weapons, consistently deploying – and firing – them in proscribed areas. And Russia has failed to uphold the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM), permitting – if not instructing – its forces to deny, detain, threaten, and even shoot at monitors, their vehicles, and their cameras and drones. Russia’s aggression has cost over 10,300 lives, wounded an estimated 25,000 more, and displaced up to two million people.
The United States and over thirty other participating States have further warned that the fighting puts critical infrastructure like the Donetsk Filtration Station (DFS) in jeopardy, leaving the Donbas at heightened risk for an environmental catastrophe. We are deeply concerned that on May 14, this critical water facility once again came under fire on the same day a bullet passed dangerously close to the head of an SMM monitor. Russia started this conflict and continues to fuel it, so Moscow is ultimately to blame for the humanitarian crisis in the Donbas. However, it is the responsibility of both sides to ensure that the unarmed civilian employees of DFS – as well as the SMM monitors who facilitate their work – are protected. We call on Russia-led forces and Ukrainian Armed Forces to immediately work toward disengagement from the Donetsk Filtration Station and other critical civilian infrastructure sites.
Mr. Chair, the Russian Federation continues to arm, train, lead, and fight alongside forces in eastern Ukraine. We remind the Permanent Council that Russia has never accounted for the presence of uniformed Russian soldiers, as reported by the SMM. Russia has never explained the presence of Russian weapon systems that are not, and have never been, a part of Ukraine’s arsenal. As reported by the SMM, these include the TOS-1 Buratino Multiple Launch Rocket System, the Zhytel R-330 jamming station, and the Orlan-10 drone. Nor has Russia ever acknowledged the tens of thousands of persons in military-style dress, whom the OSCE Border Observation Mission has seen cross into Russia-controlled parts of Ukraine. Russia has noted that OSCE observers did not witness members of its armed forces carrying weapons across the border in plain sight, yet Russian soldiers have been observed bearing weapons in the conflict zone. Last week Russia sent yet another so-called “aid convoy” across the border into eastern Ukraine, and continued to deny access to OSCE observers and Ukrainian customs officials to inspect it. If these are humanitarian shipments, as Russia claims, why are SMM monitors not allowed to inspect them? And why are they not coordinated through an international mechanism, as the Minsk agreements stipulate? It’s clear that Russia’s rhetoric is simply an attempt to distract from its lack of compliance with the Minsk agreements.
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@lg2058 Clearly you haven't read the OSCE reports you pretend to know. Here's a taste.
Russia has failed to keep even the most basic of the agreements reached in Minsk. Russia has failed to respect the line of contact, leading incursions since 2014 that have claimed hundreds of square kilometers for its proxies in eastern Ukraine. Russia has failed to respect the ceasefire, making and breaking countless truces. Russia has failed to withdraw heavy weapons, consistently deploying – and firing – them in proscribed areas. And Russia has failed to uphold the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM), permitting – if not instructing – its forces to deny, detain, threaten, and even shoot at monitors, their vehicles, and their cameras and drones. Russia’s aggression has cost over 10,300 lives, wounded an estimated 25,000 more, and displaced up to two million people.
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@lg2058 "Russia has failed to respect the line of contact, leading incursions since 2014 that have claimed hundreds of square kilometers for its proxies in eastern Ukraine. Russia has failed to respect the ceasefire, making and breaking countless truces. Russia has failed to withdraw heavy weapons, consistently deploying – and firing – them in proscribed areas. And Russia has failed to uphold the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM), permitting – if not instructing – its forces to deny, detain, threaten, and even shoot at monitors, their vehicles, and their cameras and drones. Russia’s aggression has cost over 10,300 lives, wounded an estimated 25,000 more, and displaced up to two million people."
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@TheKkpop1 China is the land of shortcuts and facades. I'll leave you to research why China's patent surge doesn't mean much, you can start with 'strategic patenting' but here's a snippet.
Most recently, Eberhardt, Helmers et al. (2017), first employing quantitative analysis based on representative firm-level data from SIPO and USPTO between 1985 and 2006, revealed that the patent surge at SIPO was driven by factors other than underlying innovative behavior, including government subsidies that directly encouraged patent filings. Different from the study by Hu and Jefferson (2009) using aggregated patent data, they differentiated between the three types of patents and focused on invention patents that represented for more novelty and inventiveness.
Hu, Zhang et al. (2017) further confirmed that the correlation between patents and innovative factor,
R&D, has become weaker, especially for utility models, which denoted that the patent surge was driven by non-innovation related motives. Using a more update dataset from 2007 to 2011, they justified the government policy incentive hypothesis. Meanwhile, they manifested that most of the patent growth came from firms that were not active in applying for patents in the past. They also left space for further research on other non-innovative motivations that played a part in propelling
the patent boom.
What’s more, there have been controversies on the relationship between the quality and quantity of Chinese patents during the patent surge. Li (2012)’s empirical examination based on the ratio of patent grants to applications also implied that the patent surge was not followed by lowered patent application quality. However, this implication was soon confuted by other scholars. Zhang and Chen (2012) estimated a lower value of patents requested by domestic applicants than foreign applicants.
After assessing the quality of Chinese patent filings in EPO, Thoma (2013) provided support for the “strategic patenting” hypothesis on the lower value and quality of Chinese patents.
Dang and Motohashi (2015) demonstrated that grant-contingent patent subsidies unintentionally encouraged applicants to file for patents with a narrow claim scope to increase the chance of grants, which resulted in lower economic value. Boeing and Mueller (2016) found an over-time quality decrease for Chinese Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) applications by international comparison, and they found evidence for a negative correlation between patent quality and patent subsidies as well.
To sum up, a patent surge is not always a reflection of increases in true innovation
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One of Biden's first acts as president was to try to get the coronavirus pandemic under control by passing the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan.
The White House sent Americans in the low-to-medium income range a $1,400 payment to help fund basic necessities like rent and groceries. Biden also extended a $300 a week federal unemployment benefit for some 9.7 million people out of work at the time, temporarily expanded the child tax credit program, allotted $7.25 billion for small business loans and $128 billion in grants for state educational agencies.
Biden signed a $1 trillion infrastructure bill into law in November 2021 that will repair the nation's roads, bridges and railways, bring high-speed internet to rural communities and more.
The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law includes: $284 billion for transportation needs, which includes repairing bridges and roadways, public transit and airports, electric vehicles and low emission public transportation; $65 billion for broadband internet; $73 billion for power infrastructure; and $55 billion for clean drinking water.
The CHIPS and Science Act of 2022 passed in August, which allocated roughly $53 billion in federal funding to manufacture semiconductor chips in the U.S. instead of relying on China to produce them.
According to the White House, the bill will "boost American semiconductor research, development, and production, ensuring U.S. leadership in the technology that forms the foundation of everything from automobiles to household appliances to defense systems."
Biden worked to pass the Build Back Better Act, a massive social spending bill to the tune of nearly $2 trillion. It included many promises Biden made on the 2020 campaign trail, such as major health care reform, universal pre-kindergarten and paid family leave, $550 billion dedicated to combatting climate change and more, paid for in part by increased taxes for corporations and the uber rich.
That original piece of legislature stalled, but after months of negotiations, resurfaced under a different name; the Inflation Reduction Act.
The package also includes:
$369 billion for a climate initiative to reduce greenhouse emissions and promote lean energy technologies.
$300 billion in new revenue through a corporate tax increase.
$80 billion for the Internal Revenue Service to hire new agents, modernize its technology, audit the wealthy and more.
A $2,000 annual cap for out-of-pocket prescription drug costs for those insured by Medicare.
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@SkyDiver-wd5oj Your first interaction with me was to accuse me of something I didn't do, some might consider that rude. When asked to provide an example you run away. You cant answer the question I asked because you made it up. Don't make idiotic comments if you don't want people calling you on it.
I find your support of Putin and Russian aggression to be offensive. Your Facebook research has taught you a lot I'm sure. Your knowledge on the subject is surface level at best. In another thread you praised Putin for being the first one to call Bush on 911 ignoring the bounty he later placed on US forces in the region. You also said the US was so powerful they didn't need help ignoring that they are the only country in NATO who have invoked article 5, which seems to indicate that they do in fact need help. You even engage in some whataboutism for good measure, invoking Iraq and Afghanistan for some reason. One of the great lessons we learned in the previous century was that appeasement is the path to greater conflict, a world war later and most people with half a brain learned this lesson. You unfortunately have failed to learn this lesson.
All of Putin's reasoning for his aggressive expansion are the exact same a certain Austrian painter in the 30's used, another fact lost on you.
In this thread you tried to justify Russia's previous genocide in Crimea saying it had nothing to do with them. Sorry this is wrong, you don't get to absolve yourself of your crimes by changing the government. Stalin is revered in Russia, there are statues of him all over. How many statues of the painter are in Germany? You try to justify Russia's invasion and annexation of Crimea ignoring that 1. the same justification was used by that painter and 2. there are no shortage of countries that have claims just as strong or stronger on Russian territory, including; China, Japan, Finland, Germany, Georgia, Mongolia. Among others.
I hope you can get over your delicate sensibilities and do some actual research. And in the future don't accuse people of things that aren't true then run away when asked for an example. Some people may find this rude.
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@lg2058 Yes it's what happens when you run out of things to say, like you cleary have. As does bringing up false equivalencies. If the US had invaded and annexed Cuba your comment would make sense, instead you just look like a deranged fool. Also Cuba can ally with whomever they like, but what could Cuba have to gain these days from allying with Russia. The US, unlike Russia doesn't have recent a history if invading and annexing their neighbors. And Russia doesn't have the wherewithal to take the Donbas, never mind defend Cuba from anything. And your bizarre obsession with Ukrainian neutrality, that was still intact up until Russia's 2014 invasion. No sorry idle talk isn't a breach of neutrality, and even if it was Russia signed the Budapest memorandum, which guaranteed it would respect Ukraine's sovereignty. Maybe you should look up what the word sovereignty means, it doesn't mean a country can do what it likes, unless Russia disapproves.
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@lg2058 You still don't seem to understand that no deal with Russia can be taken seriously as they routinely violate signed treaties whenever it suites them.
“They were hoping almost to the end to put pressure on us to sign such a document and accept neutrality. It was a big deal for them. They were ready to end the war if we, like Finland once did, would accept neutrality and pledge not to join NATO. In fact, that was the main point. All the rest are cosmetic and political “additions” to denazification, the Russian-speaking population, and blah blah blah…” Arakhamia said.
To the journalist’s question why Ukraine did not agree to this point, Arakhamia answered that there was no trust in the Russians.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief.
Arakhamia also denied the fact that the Ukrainian delegation was ready to sign the document and Boris Johnson stopped them. According to his own words, the Western partners were informed about the negotiations and had seen the draft versions of the agreement, but they did not make decisions on behalf of Ukraine and could only give advice.
“In fact, they advised us not to agree to Russia’s ephemeral guarantees, which were impossible to give then.” – said David Arakhamia.
Accordingly, David Arakhamia did not say that Ukraine was ready to sign a document promising peace in exchange for neutrality. Arakhamia’s interview reveals that Ukraine was not going to sign the document even before receiving Boris Johnson’s advice, therefore, it is manipulative to claim that the Russia-Ukraine agreement failed because of Boris Johnson or that Ukraine made the decision because of his position.
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@lg2058 I'm sure if Russia knew how much trouble they would have with Ukraine they would have went with Kazakhstan first, if you believed Russian rhetoric.
Putin implied that Kazakhstan never existed as a state before 1991. by stating that its first president, Nursultan Nazarbayev, “created a state on territory where there had never been a state”
A month after the invasion, another Duma deputy, Sergei Savostyanov, offered to expand the ongoing “denazification and demilitarization operation” in Ukraine to include Kazakhstan, among other post-Soviet states.
A month after this incident, Russian television host on state TV, Keosyan, accused Kazakhstan of “ungratefulness” and threatened the country, calling for it “to look at Ukraine” in response to the country’s decision to cancel the annual parade commemorating the Soviet Union’s victory in the World War II. Russia’s former president and deputy chair of the Security Council, Dmitry
Medvedev, designated Kazakhstan as an “artificial state” built on the territory gifted by Russia. Medvedev further blamed Astana for implementing policies that “could be classified as genocide of [ethnic] Russians”
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@lg2058 Here's another excerpt. I await your post regarding the phantom treaty that exits only in your mind.
"The interpretation of a comment allegedly made by US Secretary of State, James Baker, to the effect that NATO would expand "not one inch eastward" in a unified Germany, as applying instead to Eastern Europe; neither has such a provision been included in the treaty, nor any of the parties has proposed or demanded its inclusion, and neither a recording nor written minutes of Baker's comment exist. In 2014, Gorbachev said that the assurance only pertained to East Germany, and that the resulting agreement was upheld by Nato. His main aide in these negotiations, Eduard Shevardnadze, likewise agreed that Nato never made any such commitment regarding other countries in Eastern Europe, and that "the question never came up" in the talks on German reunification. That is presumably because all of the countries in question were still in the Warsaw Pact at the time and hosted large Soviet garrisons."
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@Leatherman154 Actually looking into it Ukraine was involved in more NATO operations than I thought.
ATO MISSION IN KOSOVO (KFOR)
The Ukrainian national contingent consists of 40 military personnel from Ukraine’s Armed Forces engineering regiments who are deployed on a rotational basis.
Composition of the contingent: engineering unit, a staff officer in KFOR Headquarters (HQ) and the support element.
The national contingent performs tasks as a part of Joint Logistic Support Group of KFOR.
The main tasks of the contingent include:
to ensure freedom of movement in the KFOR area of responsibility, organizing and conducting mine safety measures in the interests of both KFOR forces and the local population, demining and disposal of explosive devices, and other engineering tasks throughout KFOR area of responsibility.
NATO MISSION IN ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF AFGHANISTAN – “RESOLUTE SUPPORT” (RSM)
In line with the decision of the Alliance to close Resolute Support Mission in Afghanistan, Ukrainian national personnel has been redeployed from Afghanistan in June 2021.
NATO Mission in Iraq (NMI)
Ukraine is a Potential Operational Partner in NMI since February 2019. Upon becoming a (full) Operational Partner, Ukraine will join the Mission contributing national personnel.
Operation Sea Guardian (OSG)
Ukraine is a Potential Operational Partner in OSG since July 2020.
Upon becoming a (full) Operational Partner Ukraine will contribute to OSG:
two Island Class Patrol Boats;
the Krivak III-class Frigate “Hetman Sahaydachniy” with a helicopter and a Boarding Party.
NATO RESPONSE FORCE (NRF)
Ukraine is the first country among NATO’s Partners. which joined the NRF. Since 2010, the units of Ukraine’s Armed Forces are continuously on a stand-by duty in the NRF.
In addition, Ukraine is the first country among NATO’s Partners to have certified a unit of Special Operations Forces in 2019 to participate in the NRF.
In 2021 Ukraine has declared national assets to the Follow-on Forces Group – Multipurpose Strategic Airlifter IL-76MD and a unit of Special Operations Forces.
NATO EXERCISES
Preparation and participation of the Ukraine’s Armed Forces in NATO collective training events and exercises allow for an increased level of training and interoperability of military authorities and units to act within multinational task forces.
Since 2015, there has been a positive trend in the number of NATO exercises, in which staff officers and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have participated as observers and participants. The Armed Forces of Ukraine participated in 5 NATO exercises in 2018 and in 6 – in 2019, 1 – in 2020 (due to the pandemic of COVID-19). In 2021, Ukraine plans to participate in 11 NATO exercises.
It should be noted that in addition to NATO’s collective training events and exercises, Ukraine participates in multinational exercises with individual Allies, as well as organizes such exercises in own territory. Over the past two years, the number of such exercises with participation of the Ukraine’s Armed Forces has exceeded 30 per year.
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@michaelotieno6524 During the 1990 summit, Zoellick says President Gorbachev accepted the idea of German unification within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, based on the principle that every country should freely choose its own alliances.
Zoellick Robert
“I was in those meetings, and Gorbachev has also said there was no promise not to enlarge NATO,” Zoellick recalls. Soviet Foreign Minister, Eduard Shevardnadze, later president of Georgia, concurred, he says. Nor does the treaty on Germany’s unification include a limit on NATO enlargement.
Zoellick vividly recalls the White House meeting he attended nearly three decades ago in which Bush asked Gorbachev if he agreed with the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe principle that nations are free to ally with others as they see fit. When Gorbachev said yes, he says, the Soviet leader’s “own colleagues at the table visibly separated themselves.”
Sensing the import of the possible breakthrough, he says a colleague at the meeting, Robert Blackwill, sent him a note checking what they had heard and asking if they should ask Bush to repeat the question. “Gorbachev agreed again,” Zoellick recalls, to the principle that Germany could choose to enter NATO.
“The reality was that, in 1989-90, most people, and certainly the Soviets, weren’t focusing on whether the Eastern European countries would become part of NATO,” Zoellick says. Knowing Soviet and Russian diplomacy, he believes Moscow would have demanded assurances in writing if it believed the U.S. had made such a promise. And even in 1996, when President Bill Clinton welcomed former Warsaw Pact nations to join NATO, he says that, “[o]ne of the German diplomats involved told me that as they discussed the enlargement with the Russians, no Russian raised the argument that there had been a promise not to enlarge.”
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@FunLewis It's time to learn how to read little buddy, here's some of the red lines. No weapons to Ukraine, crossed. No “Interference” in Ukraine by outside powers, crossed. NATO troops and missiles to be withdrawn from Russia's western border, crossed. NATO to stop eastward expansion and reverses back to position in 1997, crossed. No more western arms to Ukraine, crossed. No MiG-29 fighter jets, No long-range missiles, No Western made missiles to be fired into Russia, No supplying old Soviet tanks to Ukraine, Germany's supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine crosses a red line, Russian setbacks on battlefield will result in nuclear war, Not to threaten the territorial integrity of Russia, Not to supply longer range battlefield missiles (greater than HIMARS's current 80 kilometres), Not to supply Patriot Missile system, No modern western tanks to be supplied to Ukraine, No F-16's, No HIMARS or Storm Shadow missiles to attack Russian territory,
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@mysticnovelbro Ok lets review, because you seem to have trouble with basic concepts, like context. The topic was the three days narrative being a 'western fable', which I disproved with quotes, both from Putin and state media, the state media quotes were from the opening days of the invasion in 2022 by the way. The date Putin said it is irrelevant, he obviously thought taking Kyiv was going to be a cakewalk, both in 2014 and 2022. We know this because of how unprepared for resistance they were during their idiotic drive on Kyiv, he wouldn't have invaded otherwise. Most of what you've said has been non sequitur nonsense that makes you sound schizophrenic. Who cares what Poroshenko said because for one, it has no relevence to the three days narrative not being in Russia (which was the topic of the conversation remember?) and two, he was voted out for his perceived failings.
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@attilamarics3374 Here's what google says about Ukrainian MIA
Ukraine has not disclosed the number of soldiers missing in action (MIA), but here's some information about the topic:
Missing persons
As of July 2024, Ukraine's Interior Ministry reported that 42,000 people are listed as missing in the country. This is a significant increase from April, when the Chief Ombudsman reported that 37,000 Ukrainians were considered missing.
Russian soldiers MIA
In December 2024, a Russian deputy defense minister, Anna Tsivileva, revealed that up to 50,000 Russian soldiers could be MIA in Ukraine. However, the head of the parliamentary defense committee, Andrei Kartapolov, said that these figures were classified and should not be made public.
Ukraine's "I Want to Find" project
This project was created by Ukraine's military intelligence (HUR) to handle inquiries from Russian families about missing soldiers. As of January 2025, over 50,000 Russians had submitted inquiries through the project.
Russia's lack of effort
A representative of Ukraine's project criticized Russia's lack of effort in recovering or identifying the missing.
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@martyn4501 Wrong. The reason they were buying time is because they know Russia never lives up to its obligations, and a treaty with Russia isn't worth the paper its written on.
There are two Minsk Agreements, not just one. The first “Minsk Protocol” was signed on September 5, 2014. It mainly consists of a commitment to a ceasefire along the existing line of contact, which Russia never respected. By February 2015, fighting had intensified to a level that led to renewed calls for a ceasefire, and ultimately led to the second Minsk Agreement, signed on February 12, 2015. Even after this agreement, Russian-led forces kept fighting and took the town of Debaltseve six days later. The two agreements are cumulative, building on each other, rather than the second replacing the first. This is important in understanding the importance, reflected in the first agreement, of an immediate ceasefire and full monitoring by the OSCE, including on the Ukraine-Russia border, as fundamental to the subsequent package of agreements.
Russia is in violation of the Minsk Agreements. The deals require a ceasefire, withdrawal of foreign military forces, disbanding of illegal armed groups, and returning control of the Ukrainian side of the international border with Russia to Ukraine, all of this under OSCE supervision. Russia has done none of this. It has regular military officers as well as intelligence operatives and unmarked “little green men” woven into the military forces in Eastern Ukraine. The LPR and DPR forces are by any definition “illegal armed groups,” that have not been disbanded. The ceasefire has barely been respected by the Russian side for more than a few days at a time.
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@robertatkins9419 Here's what was actually said about the phantom peace agreement. By a person in the room.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
There were peace talks but they were never close to a peace agreement . You can believe whatever makes you feel fuzziest inside though.
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@atkins9419 Here's what was actually said by a person in the room. There were peace talks but never was there any peace agreement, its time to rejoin reality bud.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this intrusion would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
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@robertatkins9419 Here's what was actually said by a person in the room. There were peace talks but never was there any peace agreement.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards Nato is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this intrusion would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
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@michaeljennings3207 Yes that was after Ukraine had already rejected the deal. Here's What Arakhamia actually said. “First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this [intrusion] would never happen again. However, there is no such belief.
Also, when we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kyiv and said that we would not sign anything with them and would just fight."
This was after the negotiations little buddy.
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@Gerrard_Pike2008 Russian authorities will now be able to send deaf, oligophrenic and schizophrenic people to the front line
Yesterday, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu approved a list of diseases with which citizens will not be able to serve under contract during mobilization, martial law and wartime. The list consists of 26 points, including HIV, hepatitis B and C, diabetes mellitus, all forms of active tuberculosis, drug addiction, lack of limbs or a kidney.
However, many serious diseases were not on the list. Now people with heart defects, hearing loss, schizophrenia and oligophrenia will be sent to the front to die for the tsar.
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@alexeilebedev7462 I already address that conspiracy that is your first point in this thread, try reading before you comment.
Russia was supposed to withdraw its support for the rebels and withdraw its forces from Ukraine, they did neither. Russia violated Minsk on day one. Of course there would be no Minsk agreement if Russia hadn't violated the Budapest memorandum.
Ukraine had already decided not to make peace with the Russians before they spoke to any country because 1. They know an agreement with Russia isn't worth the paper its written on and 2. They saw what Russia did at Bucha and Irpin. You can read what Arakhamia said yourself if you want.
“First of all, in order to agree to this point, you have to change the constitution. Our aspiration towards NATO is written in the constitution. Also, there is no trust in the Russians that they will do this. This would only be possible if there were security guarantees. We couldn’t sign something, go away, everybody there would breathe a sigh of relief, and then they would come more prepared, because in fact, when they invaded, they were unprepared for such resistance. We could only work on this when we were 100% sure that this would never happen again. However, there is no such belief."
So you are wrong about everything.
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@theman2223 Quote from Vasily Nebenzya, the Permanent Representative of Russia to the UN: "According to the description, such a drone transports a container with a large number of mosquitoes, the carriers of infections, to a targeted area and releases them.
While biting, mosquitoes infect people with pathogens of particularly dangerous diseases. The explanation directly emphasises that an infected serviceman will be unable to perform the tasks assigned to him, to conclude "the disease can be a more valuable military tool than the most modern weapons and military equipment."
It is noted that "such an infection among enemy servicemen would have a significant military effect".
Details: Nebenzya also stated that the Russian Federation had received some documents regarding "the spread of dangerous infections through migration birds, in particular highly pathogenic influenza and Newcastle disease, and bats, in particular capable of infecting humans with the causative agents of plague, leptospirosis, brucellosis, as well as coronaviruses and filoviruses."
Andrii Yermak, the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, has reacted to the nonsense voiced out by the Russian Representative to the UN.
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@НиколайВ-п9н Of course it's non binding, it would have to go through the Security Council for that and Russia vetoed it, obviously. Resolution ES‑11/4 of the UN general assembly declared that the sham referendums held in the Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts, which were conducted under disputed circumstances and unrecognized by the international community, as well as their subsequent annexation by Russia, are invalid and illegal under international law. It calls upon all states to not recognize these territories as part of Russia. Furthermore, it demands that Russia "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw" from Ukraine as it is violating its territorial integrity and sovereignty.
The resolution was passed with an overwhelming vote of 143 in favor, 5 against
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@mellotim nobody defends the Iraq war is the difference, Russia still acts like they're the victims of history like the reason everyone hates russia is due to russophobia and not their own actions. and i'm not sure what you mean by nothing makes international news, yeah it does all the time. all america's mistakes and unjust actions, the bad stuff they've done are there for all the world and it's own population to see, and discussed openly by everyone inside America and out. What great crimes do you think haven't been discussed? yeah the media does have some serious problems, mostly due to the 24 hr news cycle, but at least there is freedom of the press. you don't tow the party line in Russia and you end up in a Siberian basement.
No country has been convinced to join NATO they did on their own volition because they've been occupied by Russia before and they know what hell is gee i wonder why they would want to join. If the Baltics weren't in NATO then all the nonsense we see in Ukraine 'oh poor Russians are in danger we better go liberate them' would have already happened there. If you had a belligerent neighbor that has invaded your country before and shipped most of your family to the gulag do you think you might want to join an alliance to ensure your safety? Also 'feeling secure' isn't a right of any country, tell it to Poland or Estonia. Should Poland be permitted to invade Belarus because it would make them feel safe from Russia? (Lukashenko being an illigitamate dictator aside) I bet Lithuania would feel a whole lot better if Kaliningrad didn't exist.
There were talks about bringing Russia into the fold and we tried, it was Putin that expelled everyone trying to make that happen because he was benefitting from the corruption. Putin wanted us to beg him to join but that's not how NATO works, countries apply for membership. the idea that BAE or lockheed martin or something the US did caused Russia to invade its neighbour is inane.
You say that the US has killed more civilians then Russia since 1991, are you sure about that? I know people from Mariupol and the estimates i've heard are at least 100k dead civilians and that's just one city, one city and it's the same everywhere they go. When that theatre there with the 'Children inside' sign was bombed the Syrians immidiately spoke up and said 'yeah you cant let Russia know where your women and children are hiding because they will target them'. they also killed 10-20% of the Chechen population and flattened Grozny. invaded Georgia a couple times. The war in Iraq was a disaster for sure but toppling Saddam, one of the most hated men in all of history and trying to annex Ukraine and the democratically elected Zelensky isn't even in the same ballpark. i'm not saying the US is some saintly nation that can do no wrong but they at least try to avoid civilian casualties.
Did the CIA have anything to do with the coup, maybe but you dont get 90% of your population to participate in a rebellion because of outside influence. If you were givin a choice between joining the free and prosperous west and being a Russian slave it's not a difficult choice to make.
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@faouzielmir9894 I'm not defending the Iraq war, I'm not sure that anyone does, nor am I American. Mostly I was commenting on the braindead whataboutism from the previous poster. Which is what every Russian argument boils down to.
"well America did something bad so its ok if Russia commits Genocide in Ukraine." it's completely idiotic.
Afghanistan is back to literally the exact same state it was 20 years ago, and 40 years ago and 40 years from now. Sadly due to geography and history Afghanistan will always be a backwater run by warlords. The past 20 years were Afghanistan's big chance to change its fate, but nobody was interested in fighting for it.
Not sure if you remember 9/11 but what was the US supposed to do? Scold the Taliban and tell them not to let it happen again? They demanded Bin Laden be handed over and they refused, so they invaded. Not unreasonable imo. And how long should the US occupy them, if after 20 years the ANA cant fight for itself they never will be abe to. Should the US occupy them until the end of time?
Iraq got rid of a brutal dictator and one of the most hated men in history, both internationally and by his own people.The total number of deaths and disappearances Caused by Sadam is estimated to be between 250,000 to 290,000. (not including the Iraq Iran war) The estimated casuaties from Iraq are between 280,771-315,190 Iraqi civilians killed by direct violence since the U.S. invasion. A Vast majority of them were not directly caused by the US but the various militias. Again I'm not defending the Iraq war, I think it was a mistake and things should have been handled differently, but the 'US bad so Russia can do bad ' mentality is completely moronic.
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