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Comments by "Laurence Fraser" (@laurencefraser) on "Why Didn't Thomas Jefferson Free His Slaves?" video.
@idleray1 A depressingly large number of people subscribe to that logic, at least when it is convenient to advancing their current ideology.
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There is also the situation where one might accept that there were a few extreme situations where it was necessary, and while not doing so outside those sitautions, and doing ones best to avoid allowing those situations to arrise, such events could happen none the less. You then get the idea that 'if anyone must be whipped, it is best that it one offender with all others seeing the consequences of taking actions that go so far as to make whipping necessary, so that they do not take such actions, and thus the need for them to be whipped does not arise'. I mean, the thinking is flawed and based on some assumptions we wouldn't take to be correct these days, but you can see how the logic might shake out.
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@An_Attempt It's noticable that the colonies that the British managed to put through their entire orderly decolonization process (rather than the later ones that they just flat out abandoned due to lack of money and interest (and possibly also due to American pressure)), which involved establisheing education and governmental systems involving the locals and giving them time to become the established norm before the British actually left, tended to do a lot better in the aftermath than other ex-colonies. (it is noticeably that in at least one instance this lead to the British military putting down a rebellion, in a country they were actively in the process of leaving... by the white colonists who realised that they were so outnumbered as to render their voices completely irrelivant in the democratic government the British were setting up on their way out.) Forcing a bunch of random groups together does cause problems, yes, but it causes a lot Less problems if all the appropriate administrative and representative structures are in place. (The way Britain Wanted to handle Indian Indepence prior to ww2 vs how Indian independence After ww2 ended up actually happening is a pretty good example, too. here's a hint: What happened is what Ghandi's independence movement wanted. The British position on the matter called for a slower withdrawal and whole hell of a lot less relgiously motivated murder. Of course, then ww2 happend, which rather radically changed Britain's priorities in a way that was not in India's favour at all, so...)
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@An_Attempt Of course, when you do find such a school, they're usually even more heavily biased in the Other direction, as the current government attempts to discredit former administrations or models to make their current way of doing things look better.
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