Comments by "Laurence Fraser" (@laurencefraser) on "The Greenpeace Boat Attacks" video.
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@momatotsosrorudodi That's... silly. Communisim in it's 'true' form is a vague utopia. Socialism in its 'true' form is just co-ops plus or minus various government safety nets (didn't even start out as an ideology, just solutions to specific issues that had come about as a result of capitalism and the industrial revolution). Communism as implemented by various 'Communist' states is ... authoritarianism with a side of central planning... And to be fair, the 'central planning' part has it's place in certain matters when implemented competently... but much like the free market it has Major Problems when applied to things it Really Shouldn't Be... and when you are ideologically incapable of actually using the right tool for the right job, well... it goes poorly.
Like.... you can make a positive argument for most of the things 'communists' Claim to want to do... once you sanity check the specifics for compliance with reality... but... really.
The one thing communist governments did well (when they managed to put competent people in charge of things) was speed run the industrial revolution stage of things while dodging some of its pitfalls (and falling even harder into others, in some cases, mind you).... and having done that they promptly.... stalled out until and unless they implemented reforms that amounted to decentralising control of most things.
Which would be why China isn't actually communist in the slightest (beyond the various aesthetic trappings) anymore by has largely reverted to how the old Chinese Empire used to do things administratively and a mostly fairly western model for economic matters.
That said, I'd give you good odds that if you actually analised most of the capitalist sides arguments they'd consist of little beyond bullshit propaganda that didn't hold up to reality Either. Because as ideologies go they're both pretty shit. Various subsystems advocated for by proponents of both are quite useful when properly applied to the correct things, but neither system is any way to run a government, a country... or even an economy, really.
There's a reason why basically everyone actually runs what is termed a 'mixed' economy these days, and most of the more livable places run something that's a Lot closer to the middle than either end.
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There's a rather distinct difference:
Piracy explicitly involves killing people, stealing cargo, or hijacking vessels, to my understanding.
Then there's various rules about navigation, safety, and such, the violation of which may be some sort of crime.
Then there's just being an obstructive pain in the arse... and so long as you're not endangering anyone other than maybe yourself... well, your right to protest isn't exactly protected, but if the other ship starts taking potshots at you... technically, if anyone's engaging in piracy, it's probably Them (in reality they're probably doing something more along the lines of 'reckless endangerment' or something.).
It gets even more fun when you consider that, in some places, the ships they're 'protesting' are technically poaching, or only dodging such a charge on a technicality.
(seriously, the only reason Japanese whaling ships in NZ waters aren't just sunk out of hand is... well, ok, because the people making the decisions are sane and don't want a war with Japan. But the general public sentiment is (or at least certainly was last I heard) that if that weren't an issue then the navy patroling for and sinking whalers and other poachers on sight would be entirely right and correct. Not to say they don't patrol for them now, but short range boats with an MG or two and a loud hailer are rather less heavy on 'actually getting the message across' than something with an actual gun putting an acutal hole in ship getting up to such nonsense, ya know?).
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