Comments by "Laurence Fraser" (@laurencefraser) on "Urban Growth Boundaries: Effective or Worthless?" video.

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  3. when you start taking into account all relevant factors... Well, your entire premise regarding transit is mislead. Busses are actively the Worst form of public transit (edit: ok, this discounts taxis as public transit, and 'worst' isn't Quite the right word). Better than nothing, entirely suited for situations where density is too low to support anything better and 'last mile' transit from stations where density isn't high enough to justify tram stops within a 10 minute walk of basically everywhere. The simple fact is, cost to benefit (both direct and knock-on, because when the transit is run by the relevant government entities, a surprisingly large number of 'unprofitable' services actually improve economic conditions such that they boost the tax take by more than they cost to run, even if it's impossible for them to turn a profit in terms of ticket sales), If you have enough riders to support them (and yes, density is a significant contributing factor), trams and full railways are absolutely better. Now, here's the thing about subways: They are the single most expensive form of transit there is to build. Not necessarily to Operate (which is a very important thing to keep in mind and a significant part of what lets buses down). Frankly, you shouldn't be building them at all except in the dense urban core where surface lines are non-viable. Elevated rail lines come with most of the benefits at substantially less cost. ... provided you're willing to give the NIMBYs the boot to the head they deserve rather than caving to them (because, seriously, somehow city and state government can just ignore legitimate concerns at will for projects that offer little or no actual benefit and have glaring flaws willy nilly, but highly beneficial projects with little or no Legitimate reason not to proceed implode or have their costs absolutely baloon if a NIMBY so much as breaths on them, it's absurd...). Surface rail is even better still, when the current state of things allows it. Also, BRT: Kind of a scam. Like, not really, but kind of. Basically, every feature of a BRT will improve a regular bus service if applied as appropriate... but if you build a whole new BRT from scratch... you basically just spent 80+% of the cost of building a proper tram system, on a system that has significantly higher operating costs, produces more pollution, gives a less comfortable ride, and has lower capacity... With the added bonus that, if you've built it anywhere the expense was actually justified by the ridership... you're going to have to replace it with a tram system in short order Anyway, because it's rapidly going to suffer from it's own success and need a capacity boost that can't be attained otherwise. ... And if you built it to the requirements of the buses, rather than the inevitable trams (and of course you did, let's not kid ourselves here) the resulting Tram service is going to be terrible to. Which is to say, most bus services could be improved by adding BRT elements where suitable, but if you're considering Building a dedicated BRT system from scratch as your public transit solution... Just save everyone a tonne of time, money, effort, and service disruption and just build a tram in the first place.
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