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Comments by "Cáit, Oz Astráil, MsSpock" (@msvulcanspock) on "ABC News In-depth" channel.
Chas and John sanewashing the debate. Not what I had on my American election cycle bingo card. You used to cover America outside of the media bubbles. Now you don't seem to be able to step outside sections of it.
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LOL the left stayed home.
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Trump did a mínscule amount of campaigning in comparison. Trump got a free pass so he never had to answer any questions. He didn't have be coherent. He did not say the journalists questions.
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Every other state and territory also had BLM protests and they have no outbreaks. So even if you don't listen to the Chief Medical Officer & Science that says it wasn't caused by that then common sense shows clearly the protests weren't the cause of the outbreaks Otherwise Australia who have outbreaks everywhere. The reason for the outbreaks was that 1 in 4 Covid19 positive Melbourne residents went to work or about their lives. A lack of leadership modeling best practice by taking the virus seriously led to the outbreaks. Basic facts matter.
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The ABC costs 8 cents per day from each taxpayer. A referendum will cost $4.70 for each Australian. What about a Federal ICAC to get some of that rorted money back from both sides of politics?
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Two men covering abortion has meant that you have missed some of the nuances. You two always used to hit it out of the park, but you've slipped into repeating right wing talking points that have permeated through corporate media in America. Harris is being held to a higher standard than Trump is. I am disappointed. This used to be one of my favourite shows.
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The ABC costs 8 cents per day from each taxpayer. A referendum will cost $4.70 for each Australian. What about a Federal ICAC to get some of that rorted money back from both sides of politics?
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There's livestreams of Danielle Moodie, David Feldman, Roland Martin, TabithaSpeaksPolitics, Tennessee Brando, Jessica Crockett, Queer News Tonight, Native News Online, John Oliver, Samantha Bee
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It was intense. AOC said that they wanted to get rid of Harris as well as Biden. They would have lost Black voters. Biden chose the best time to do it. Stopped Trump from getting a bump in the polls after the RNC, and JD Vance didn't get a poll bump either. Masterfully managed.
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No Trump told Halley voters he didn't want him. He's losing numbers of former Republicans, low information voters and Independents.
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Many countries are having decades worth of 'flu deaths,' in months. Alabama just had 20 years worth of flu deaths in 3 months.
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It was brilliantly timed. RNC poll bumps totally flatlined.
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I saw Mitch McConnell freeze.
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CNN is so biased towards Trump it is beyond a joke. Trump gets free passes all the time. Trump can tell two lies per minute and CNN doesn't call him out. No Democrat could lie like that.
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No that's not fair. The legislation puts them in jail.
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She's a traitor. She's on an internal no fly list. More disinformation is not useful.
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Chas used to be really on top of this. He's bought some of the sanewashing. Chás is also not aware of the Black media, Hispanic media, woman's media or Queer media and a whole range of social media, platforms and other media that Harris has been on.
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They actually just repeat the Biden is old MSM line from America, without going through the similar examples that Trump has done the same week. Their reporting is getting lazier.
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Two white guys talking about abortion is so tiresome. You are missing basically biology. You need to read the legislation rather than reporting misinformation. You are wrong. A D&C is considered abortion. An ectopic pregnancy is considered an abortion. A foetus dying at 8 months is considered an abortion. You don't understand the basics of abortions. 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriages before Roe vs Wade these women often died. Black women have the highest rate of maternal deaths in the OECD before Roe vs Wade was overturned. Their deaths are rising. But you are not reporting those deaths. You have not covered the 64,000 pregnancies resulting from rapes have that have occurred in the red states that have abortion bans.
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No they aren't. Biden's son just got convicted.
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Source?
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I stopped watching the ABC due to the bias of treating the opposition like its in government. John and Chas are unwittingly repeating the right wing talking points that have permeated throughout the corporate media in America. If you want to hear criticisms of Harris simply press play and listen to an episode of Planet America rather than just turning up to troll in the comments.
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No Obama is waiting to endorse Harris as it is a strategy to keep the media coverage going. Read Michelle Obama's autobiography, she hates politics. There was never a moment where she was considering running.
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What socialist leaning stuff? There's none of that. Planet America does the same corporate media sanewashing American media does.
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There is no abc socialism.
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They've had Bolton on, and many conflicting and commentators with different views. This is not a left view. Watch the actual show sometime.
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Alabama just had 20 years worth of 'flu deaths' in 3 months.
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Trump was a Democrat and he is now a Republican. Trump was against abortion and IVF and now he's going for a longer than 6 week abortion ban and he is going to pay for IVF for everyone. Trump can't answer a simple question. See his recent response to childcare which was total word salad.
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That's a Trump lie. Migrants get the poorest paid jobs.
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2 beans 1 cream I didn't say that protesting in large groups made any one immune to Covid19. That's patently ridiculous. The fact is that the protest organisers handed out masks and socially distanced. There were protests in each and every state and territory in Australia. Only Melbourne got infections, if the BLM protests spread the virus then every state and territory in Australia would have had virus spread but they didn't. The Chief Medical Officer said the BLM protests didn't spread the virus. However, 1 in 4 Covid19 positive people went to work or out and about in the community as they didn't take SARS-CoV-2 seriously. The majority of those who were symtomatic and didn't isolate after they were tested. Contract tracing has followed up the documented cases of the spread of the virus. The majority of community transmission is in people's homes with close contact. That's been proven now unless you have a racist agenda and don't care for the facts of the situation.
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2 beans 1 cream Pretending that BLM protests are the reason for spread in Victoria, when no other state, many of which had larger protests, recorded cases. It's scapegoating a protest rather than looking at the reality that 1 in 4 positive Covid19 people went to work or about their business in the community.
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2 beans 1 cream No I am not. I am adding a nuance. It still doesn't take away from the fact that there were BLM protests in all states and territories and none bar Melbourne got virus spread. If the BLM protest was the spreader of SARS-CoV-2 then there would be spread across all of Australia, which there is not. On top that the Chief Medical Officer said contract tracing didn't find any cases from the virus emerging. It spread due to 1 in 4 positive Covid19 people going to work or about their business in the community.
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How about voter stealing, voter intimidation, voter suppression and Intergenerational racial gerrymandering? Two white guys can't seem to track this. No mention of that by Chas and David.
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Kamala Harris didn't move to the left at all. Millions of Democrats stayed home because she was too right wing.
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Did Pence not notice that Trump's magas wanted to hang him? Oh well, Mike Pence's fly is still in the race, so all is good.
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@asfgyhwifter Harris did not campaign on these issues for years.
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Both Democrats and Republicans conspired together to use the neoliberalist "Poverty as a Policy Choice" for the last 40 years. 66.2% of Americans are living pay check to pay check. They work 2-3 jobs and can't pay rent and buy food for their children. They are extremely time poor. If they take a shift off their children don't eat. 60% of Americans are reading and writing at a 6th Grade level. 1 in 3 of these are at an 8 year old level. This means that they haven't progressed from concrete to abstract thinking. They didn't have the skills to decode the corporate media is sanewashing. Ridiculing folks who are low information voters, Independents or Undecideds was not sensible. It meant folks tuned out. If you are working 6-7 days a week means that you don't have time to read the news or do a deep dive. Both Democrats and Republicans conspired together to use Poverty as a Policy Choice. Folks are skipping meals so their children can eat. Poor people don't vote because they are still having to work 6-7 days. America couldn't afford to have a living wage now for 40 years so now America can't afford to have a democracy.
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Democrats have many choices. Trump cannot get back in because he is losing his voters.
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Corporate media gave Trump $6 billion dollars in free coverage in 2016. Recently the New York Times ran 196 negative articles on Biden's mental decline vs 6-10 negative articles on Trump's mental decline during the same time period. Democrats do not trust the New York Times (or the Washington Post) anymore. The corporate media is owned by Trump billion dollar media owners who want their tax cuts. Kamala Harris owes them nothing. You are two of the best journalists in Australia but you are two of the whitest dudes who have not paid attention. I have got to say I am a huge fan of Planet America and I am often surprised that you two are on top of so many nuances. But you missed the bias against Biden by the New York Times and the backlash against it. If you ever get a chance to interview David Cay Johnson, he nails this media coverage. After Kamala Harris introduced Tim Walz she walked off the rally stage and 15 minutes she was being interviewed by Roland Martin. There is not only white journalists in the white corporate media but a wide range of other media platforms for Harris to utilise. Kamala Harris has been campaigning on reproductive health care for over 12 months. You can see her with journalists and podcasters in many cultures and communities. Not only white folks like you can report. There's Indigenous, Native, Black, Asian and Hispanic media platforms to engage with. A lot have stopped watching CNN, MSNBC, etc. I watch them for basics but then move on. Harris has sponsored and co-sponsored pieces of legislation which anyone can look up. Harris has committed to running on restoring reproductive health care which is significant. Maybe not to two men, but it is life saving 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriages before Roe vs Wade these women often died. For women Harris has been hitting out of the park. There's been 64,000 pregnancies resulting from rapes which have occurred in the red states that have abortion bans. You have not covered the abortion to your usual level of analysis. Harris also worked on the Child Tax Credit which raised 50 per cent of Black children out of poverty. She was part of the Chips Act and Infrastructure bill which are worth googling. Folks can find everything is online easy to find. Also finally Trump is shooting himself in the foot. Campaign strategy 101 is don't interrupt your enemy when he's self destructing. Even Trump shut up when the Democrats were hand wringing about Biden stepping down. Finally the combination of Trump's racism and sexism means the Harris campaign is not going to let her be scapegoated and vilified. They will not allow a media lynching. To recap Harris is appearing just not in your spheres. Corporate media given who it is owned by is not trusted. You two are my favourites in the Australian media, I mostly consume overseas media. However you lack of a female's perspective of what abortion means. You also are missing out on the cultural diversity of media in America. You nailed it that Harris she will be represented as not knowing. Very astute comments.
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John and Chas are brilliant but they have swallowed some of the sanewashing.
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Did Cornell West not read the Mueller Report? Seriously Cornell West can't be that naive, that the Russians and the Chinese won't use his campaign to hand the election to Trump. He might like to read "LikeWar: The Weaponization of Social Media" by Singer & Brooking.
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Seth Moulton conveniently left out how he was trying to get rid of Harris as well as Biden. AOC comments on this. Biden held out until Harris was a certainty. The Biden Campaign got to choose the questions that they took from journalists. They kept choosing the age questions. They wanted this age debate. It leaves Trump in a very uncomfortable and precarious position. Biden is underrated strategist. He stepped down, nominating Harris flatlining Trump's and JD Vance expected poll bump from the RNC convention. Biden holding out as long as he did burnt up Trump's campaign finances, gave them a false sense of security and redefined the debate so Trump and the Republicans were left flat footed. Biden is a very clever man.
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Republicans have been engaged in voter suppression, voter stealing and racial gerrymandering are preventing many from voting for decades. They have decades worth of practice in blocking Democrat votes.
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Not with Elon Musk! He tells out right lies and there's no stopping him.
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@geoffreyrudd448 No there's no massive spike in flu deaths. I was stating that Alabama have had as many people die from Covid19 in three months as die from 20 years of flu deaths.
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@ScottSiddon He stole an election. Who cares?
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Harris has been answering questions of journalists each time she gets on and off her plane. She walked off the rally stage after introducing Tim Walz and was being interviewed 15 minutes later. There are many interviews on YouTube.
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@AZ2PM He does not mouth MSM lines on Biden like these two unfortunately do.
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She's already proved herself on the international stage.
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They are leaning towards Trump more and uncritically repeating comments about Biden from the American media.
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They are showing both sides with a slight bias to Trump at times.
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Harris walked off the rally stage after introducing Tim Walz and was being interviewed 15 minutes later. She answers questions from journalists each time she gets on and off her plane. Harris doesn't owe mainstream media billionaire owners and their lackey journalists ratings.
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@bmortloff Look at Project 2025
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