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Comments by "Stephen Hendricks" (@stephenhendricks103) on "" video.
I'm sure if you and all the rest of those complaining about the disappearance of MT's would go out and buy a half dozen, or so, manufacturers might see some value in offering them. Otherwise, manufacturers and dealers see very little point in building cars that sit on dealer lots until they're finally sold at a significant discount. And if that's a problem for base models, it's an even worse problem for top trim models.
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AKAT1980 You don't seem to understand that automotive manufacturers and dealers don't exist to fulfill the dreams and fantasies of "enthusiasts." They exist to make a profit. If possible to maximize profit. The fact is that MT's will live on in a few vehicles, very few, where there is a potential profit. And where that is less than certain MT's will either be eliminated altogether or limited to models where losses from unsold or heavily discounted units are minimized. There are many benefits to capitalism. But there are also unavoidable negative aspects.
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Trouble is "enthusiasts" don't buy enough cars. Go out, buy five vehicles and have your friends do the same. Until then stop complaining.
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AKAT1980 I'm afraid you're the one that's "miss informed" (sic). Do you seriously believe that manufacturers don't understand the markets at which they aim their products? Do you think they spend millions of dollars in market research for nothing? The level of your naivety is truly breathtaking.
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AKAT1980 Just an appreciation of actual facts and numbers, buddy.
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AKAT1980 Doesn't the fact that except for some a few dedicated performance models the manufacturers who even offer MT's limit the availability to lower trim levels suggest to you that they believe they cannot make a profit on such vehicles? If an MT vehicle is going to sit unsold on a dealer lot until it's heavily discounted doesn't it make sense that a manufacturer would prefer it to be a lower profit basic trim? And apart from massive investments by manufacturers in market research who do you think knows most about what customers are demanding? Dealers. And if significant numbers of customers were demanding MT vehicles don't you think dealers would pass on that information to the manufacturers? Are you under the impression that manufacturers and dealers are involved in a vast conspiracy to deny MT vehicles to customers with the object of reducing their own profits???? Grow up. When you get to high school take a course in basic economics.
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AKAT1980 Uh huh... I'd disagree that a boxer design is "outdated." And so would many Porsche owners. But lets go with your flawed analogy. How many manufacturers build any car priced "35k to 50k" with a boxer design? One. And how many of Subaru's models mate that engine with an MT? Exactly one, the specialty sports car, the BRZ. And how many BRZ's were sold in the US in 2018? 3834. The sister vehicle, the Toyota '86' did a bit better with 4133 vehicles sold in 2018 but that includes an AT option not available in the BRZ. And for 2019 Toyota reports sales are down 31% compared to last year. As already noted, manual transmissions will undoubtedly survive in a few specialty performance cars, not because they provide better performance but because that market is the only place where they make economic sense. And even among expensive luxury sports cars AT's (frequently automated manual DCT transmissions) account for a majority of sales. The only thing that will change this picture is if every internet fanboy who decries the limited availability of manual transmission vehicles pledges to buy several dozen. And since most of those fanboys can't afford one, much less a dozen, that ain't happening. P.S. You may be "smarter than a fifth grader" but even my eighth grader can read sales figures.
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AKAT1980 Buried in facts, eh.
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@LG-yu8yx That's certainly a factor along with the preference of self-proclaimed "enthusiasts" for MT's in performance vehicles. MT's aren't going away in those vehicles. And in a few cases such as the STI, the Civic Type R, and the Veloster N they may be the only choice. But even in performance vehicles the availability of transmissions that allow a driver to choose manual or automatic mode and the fact that MT's simply cannot compete with the speed of shifting in modern non-MT's (especially those with DCT's) means that MT's will continue to be a niche choice.
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