Comments by "Stephen Hendricks" (@stephenhendricks103) on "" video.

  1. Excellent video, guys. I would quarrel with a couple of points, however. You didn't award points to either vehicle in terms of cargo space behind the third row. I'd argue that the 21 cubic feet of the Telluride compared to the 18 cubic feet of Palisade deserved a half point advantage on your rating scale. It's not a huge difference, of course, but the Telluride's space is exceeded only by the humungous Chevy Traverse (23 cf) while the Palisade's space is essentially equal to the Subaru Ascent and Ford Explorer and barely more than several other rivals. The difference can mean a lot when a three row SUV is packed with passengers and gear. More important, though, is the 2 points you awarded the Palisade for its alleged price advantage. There are many different ways to compare MSRP's of two vehicles. I find the most useful comparisons result from the top trim, fully loaded versions of each vehicle. That approach reduces or eliminates the impact of features available/not available at various other trim/option levels and take into account the entire set of features each vehicle has to offer. Using the "build and price" tools for each vehicle in their respective AWD, top trim, fully optioned versions, the Telluride (SX) has an MSRP of $47,330 vs the Palisades (Limited) at $47,445, negligible difference of $115 in favor of the KIA. Had the 2 points given to the Hyundai not been included, the KIA would have "won" the overall comparison on your rating scale by a significant margin. Of course, the entire video is an entertaining and detailed perspective about two very impressive vehicles rather than a than a definitive comparison. MSRP comparisons don't take into account "real world" prices that result from serious negotiations with a dealer. The huge demand for the Telluride may mean its availability is more restricted than the Palisade. And had the Palisade's Limited trim been compared to the Telluride's SX trim, the appeal of the Hyundai's interior might have been greater. All in all, either vehicle is a very strong contender in the midsize three row mainstream crossover market.
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  2. I'm surprised that several other posters noticed the abysmally slow power folding rear seats in the Palisade. It's a feature that Hyundai apparently believes spells "luxury" but in addition to its pokey performance, the motors and wiring required means a sacrifice of about 16% in the cargo space behind the third row. And then there's the relative reliability of the human arm vs an electric motor.
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  3. You're not the only one with those opinions, Mia. :)
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  4. Personally, I agree. But it's worth keeping in mind that the Telluride has been designed for and built in the US. The Palisade, on the other hand, is meant to be a vehicle for the international market, especially the potentially huge Asian market where the Telluride is not even offered. In those markets the "rugged" vibe of the Telluride is arguably less appealing than the "near luxury" vibe of the Palisade. The emerging middle class in Asia doesn't find "rugged" nearly as attractive as North Americans. Those folks have endured a long history of "rugged;" they're more attracted to vehicles that demonstrate their new found middle class status.
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  5. Actually, the closest resemblance is between the Telluride and the Range Rover. That's a design that's aged quite well.
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  6. Had the Palisade not been awarded two points for a lower price, the two vehicles would not have been close. But that 2 point advantage was an apples to oranges comparison. Fully equipped top trims of the Palisade Limited has an MSRP of $47,445; the equivalent SX Telluride is $47,330.
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  7. KIA and US KIA dealers made a major error in underestimating the demand for the top trim SX Telluride when the vehicle was put into production. The result is price gouging by some dealers and long waiting lists for dealers prepared to offer the SX Telluride at MSRP. Obviously, US consumers were somewhat ahead of dealers in recognizing that KIA is no longer simply a "budget" brand.
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  8. Actually, I suspect there's no significant difference in the off-road/rough road ability of the two vehicles. What is the case, though, is that the Telluride is designed exclusively for and built in North America. The Palisade is built in Korea and aimed at a much broader international market, especially in Asia, where "luxury" trumps "rugged."
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  9. A different price category, altogether.
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  10. You're on target on several points, Jay. If one compares the top trim, fully optioned versions of each vehicle the MSRP's differ by a whopping $115, advantage KIA. As for the relative "luxury" vs "rugged" vibes of each, that stems from the fact that the Telluride is designed exclusively for and produced in North America where "rugged" is far more appealing than in Asia (The Palisade is built in Korea and the KIA is not even offered in Asia.) where quality tends to be equated with Mercedes, BMW, and Audis. A budget priced luxury vehicle is VERY appealing to the growing middle class in Asian countries. The biggest mistake KIA (and more precisely KIA dealers) made in their initial production plan and orders was to severely underestimate the demand for the top trim SX Telluride with the "Prestige" and towing packages. KIA expected to produce a total of 41,000 Tellurides in the first year of production with most vehicles configured at lower trim levels. The demand for the top trim SX has been massive. Obviously, KIA customers are no longer necessarily "budget" shoppers. Many dealers are just beginning to recognize that.
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  11. I'd say Telluride is modeled on the Range Rover, a budget version of a luxury SUV with a "rugged" vibe.
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  12. Had the two vehicles been more closely comparable (AWD SX plus "prestige" and towing packages) vs fully loaded Palisade Limited trim, the feature differences would have been negligible and the MSRP's would have been within $115 of one another (Telluride at $47,330 vs Palisade at $47,445.)
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  13.  @brianwynn8739  Look for another dealer. My KIA dealer, for example, never adds a "market adjustment" sticker to any vehicle. Unfortunately, given the current supply/demand situation, that means a long waiting list at that particular dealer.
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  14. That's what makes horse races.
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  15.  @bobs8005  The Palisade has 18 cubic ft of cargo space behind the third row; the Telluride has 21 cubic ft. 3/18 = 1/6 = 16+%
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