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Comments by "neoHippie" (@morganseppy5180) on "Defeminizing Female Characters" video.
That line was LONG after he was established as a dude with integrity in those movies AND after he's portrayed playboys in others, and perhaps he likes being a ladies' man or even a man's man. But right there is an example of the double standard: men are respected more for being attractive but women are respected less (for example, the monikers "chad" versus "bunny").
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Scarlett Johansen is not "sagging". she's going to be like every other 40-50 year old Hollywood actress that looks 30 for about 20 years
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Remember how they made her strip down to her underwear? Guys don't (generally) have to get undressed, and no being shirtless is not the same as an upshot of your crotch in only panties. The Drinker even mentioned that scene in both his Extra Shots on Alien and his Drinker Recommends on Alien. clearly he was at an "impressionable" age when he saw the movie.
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@RobidyBobidy1 as someone in my 40s, I guess I see it at as both but on the whole still needed. it was needed over the last 100 years for different reasons, and will likely still be needed in the next because equality never goes out of style. Despite how the extremists tarnish the ideal, don't give up on treating everyone with respect and pushing for equal treatment (not outcome, mind you).
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do you really think she has any say over costuming? she only has say on whether she wants the role, and it was great for her career. perhaps as a younger woman she thought it was fun, but now on reflection she'd rather be seen as more than just a body but also an actor? if you think of many famous leading men, their looks are one of many good attributes not he only one. women in Hollywood do not usually get this treatment. sex sells and the women you know about have had to accept this to become famous. you don't often hear about the women who didn't want to.
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double standards are like that. but also, everyone is different, and are allowed to have different opinions.
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@RobidyBobidy1 i don't get the joke. how does wanting equality between men and women getting "worse"?
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given the MeToo movement, I think we know why "while still sexualizing themselves in order to continue to land parts." exists. i'm sure it happens to men, too. Henry Cavil has to have hot tub and sex scenes to make The Witcher, but he wanted to make great art as a fan of the books and games eventho he seems to be decent, very humble, and not a "playboy". People do what they have to if they want to work in Hollywood. "hate the game not the player" etc
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@GuinessHangover literally said she took the role consciously. and yes, leading men tend to have a bunch of good traits besides looks attributed them but women are often lumped into good looking OR good acting. you're absolutely right that it's not fair to women.
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@wolverine8658 , Arnold loved his body and was used to showing off in speedos, so I don't think that's a fair comparison. As I said elsewhere, a better comparison is Henry Cavil's nude and sex scenes for The Witcher, but he loves the books and games so he accepted the nudity.
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yes, exactly. she was supposed to be the mousey / plain geek, the most relatable character in the movie. and yes, putting her in a potato sack helps with that.
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@Caenef I guess it didn't work well, but many star wars fans dress for comfort. I didn't think she stood out negatively because to me, she wore a jumpsuit that mechanics wear. However, I agree with you that I did have a hard time after her ONE scene spouting tech BS that she had very little to contribute.
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@Caenef she was at work, tho, so to me it fit for her job, but i see your point.
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A lot of actors, male and female, begrudgingly accept the nudity and sex in roles because it's the bargain they make to get established, and to say she didn't have a problem with it before is speculation (no previous quotes were provided to prove it). They get into ACTING for the stories, not the bewbs, otherwise they'd be strippers or pornstars or whatever. She proved her chops when she played a voice in a movie and maybe acting is what she's wanted all along, just a guess. This could have been a more balanced approach to the quote, with only the good-faith commentary on the topic, but this viewpoint that when women aren't attractive that they might just find themselves out of a job seems to be exactly the kind of attitude that gets SJWs all a Twitter.
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yes, but most men also want to be smarter, honest, respected, right? that is, people have more grounded aspirations, especially as we age and the novelty of 20s "dating" fades.
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and what about little boys? do they just get louder?
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