Comments by "CatsRUs" (@CatsRUs1888) on "Frank Warren's Queensberry Promotions"
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@dead149 Tyson Fury only suggested that on Twitter because it's obvious Tommy asked him to, you would have to be an idiot to think otherwise.
Tommy knew if he called out Jake from his own account Jake wouldn't notice because Jake had no idea who he was, so Tommy got his brother Tyson to call him out on his behalf instead because he knew Jake would see it that way, embarrassing from Tommy.
Jake was right to make fun of Tommy, he fights worse than bum level opponents despite having boxed all his life, at least Jake has an excuse for the level of opponents he's fought so far with him first starting boxing really late at 21 and not having an amateur career, Tommy has no excuse for the level of opponents he's been facing given he's been boxing all his life.
Not true tbh, sometimes Jake says boxer but most of the time he calls himself a real/professional fighter or a prize fighter, he deliberately avoids saying the word boxer to describe himself a lot because he knows deep down he can't really call himself a boxer until he beats a boxer. Have a look at a post Jake made on his Instagram on April 28 and tell me what he calls himself? You'll see that he calls himself a prize fighter.
Look at this interview he did only a few days ago, watch from 3.05 - 4.00, notice that she calls him a boxer within her question but then what does Jake refer to himself as? He calls himself a real FIGHTER, then he calls himself a professional FIGHTER, he TWICE deliberately avoids describing himself as a boxer and says fighter instead.
https://youtu.be/3PCT4po1XJg
You and me don't really know how he competes with boxers in sparring, it's guesswork, personally I'd say he's probably not currently competing very well otherwise he'd be fighting boxers by now to shut everyone up. Regardless, if you're not getting tested or beat up in sparring then you're not learning so who really cares it's all part of his development process, as long as he keeps winning on fight night under the lights that's all that will matter to him.
He definitely will fight a real boxer eventually but he'll only do that when he's ready, it would be the wrong decision to rush into fighting a real boxer when he's not ready just because of pressure online mostly from haters who are desperate to see him lose. You have to remember he's only been boxing for 3 years after starting late at 21, he's not had an amateur career either, in the boxing world the experience Jake has gained so far is still practically nothing, it's a baby amount of experience in the boxing world and is nowhere near enough preparation to realistically be able to compete with boxers yet, he will need another few years of dedicated training and sparring to fully prepare himself for that challenge.
He's challenging MMA athletes to a boxing match for many different reasons, they tick so many boxes...
1. Jake has a chance to win
2. They are legitimate combat athletes who do compete in a sport where boxing is one of many different disciplines used (MMA athletes may not be boxers but they're still a huge step up from YouTubers & Basketballers)
3. They have names meaning it will be a bigger PPV event rather than if Jake was fighting a low level unknown boxer with a shocking record who no one had heard of, it wouldn't do as many PPVs
4. The fight will be competitive (the Askren fight was an exception, most MMA athletes train their hands unlike Askren, Woodley will be a very competitive fight for Jake)
'He could literally just fight someone who's on the same level of record', hmm no he can't, because there is no one currently boxing professionally that's only been doing it for 3 years and had no amateur career like Jake. So there is no one with his same experience level boxing professionally.
Yes Tommy Fury is fighting professional boxers however Tommy Fury has been boxing far longer than Jake in life, Tommy said he's been boxing since he was 4, plus he grew up in a famous boxing daft family, he would have been fully prepared to face pro boxers growing up, Jake never had that due to starting so late at 21, so their situations can't be compared in the same way. It's even a stretch to call some of Tommy's opponents pro boxers though, three of his opponents had 0-12, 0-14 and 0-26 records, how can those people even be described as boxers when they've never even recorded a single win in a boxing match between them?
He clearly is chasing Jake lol, he couldn't stop talking about him, he's desperate for that fight due to the amount of money he would make and fame he would get in America from it.
There is no exposing of Jake Paul required, only imbeciles would think he's a world class boxer. Jake is what he is, he's a guy who's only been boxing 3 years, never had an amateur career, but is fully dedicating himself to boxing every day, trying to be as good as he can be, why hate on that?
That's Tommy's fault that Jake is talking about his family and girlfriend, if Tommy had never asked Tyson to call out Jake for him in the first place Jake wouldn't even know who he is or say these things towards him. Only has himself to blame.
He was clearly emotionally affected by the passing of his bodyguard, which showed when he beat Ben because he was crying after the fight was over.
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@SomeLad12 Exactly, they study potential opponents for Jake thoroughly, Jake has a highly paid team of boxing analysts who know the level Jake is at and study his potential opponents to see if he can take them or not.
They would have studied Woodley and seen enough to realize Jake can beat him, same with Tommy, they would have studied him and seen plenty holes in his game that they feel Jake can exploit too.
Tommy ain't been impressive against the bums he's fought, remember that his first five opponents weren't even full time boxers, they were part time guys who have other jobs on top of boxing, plus it's pretty widely known that they're paid to lose anyway just to build up the record of boxing prospects. Oh and btw Tommy's first five opponents had the worst combined records in boxing history, no other boxer in history has fought an opening five opponents with a worst combined record than the ones Tommy fought.
Then there's the fact Tommy was calling out KSI a couple years ago, now he's calling out Jake, another YouTuber, but this time Tommy is underestimating Jake, which will bite him hard. Plus Tommy bizarrely had a short amateur career despite clearly not being ready for pro level yet given the opposition he's been fighting or trying to fight.
Did you see what Jake said about Tommy the other day? He said Tommy only boxed because of his brother & father, which is true, it's obvious he has nowhere near the same passion for it as his brother & father.
I mean look at Tommy & Tyson competitively at the start of their careers
Tysons second opponent had a 21-3 record, Tommy's second opponent had a 0-26 record, tells you everything.
Tommy will struggle against the dude at the end of the month who's actually an MMA athlete, mark mt words and if Tommy does get past the guy he's fighting at the end of the month, he won't get past Jake, Jake will retire him early.
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@hernanday6823 Tyson fought a 21-3 opponent in his second pro fight, Tommy fought a 0-26 opponent in his second pro fight, there is no comparison between the two at the early stages of their boxing careers, Tommy will do nothing, he knows this, that's why he's trying to cash in early against the YouTuber.
The funny thing is he is underestimating the YouTuber, as is his father John, BJ Flores (Jakes coach) is very highly rated, he'll have studied Tommy, as will the rest of Jakes highly paid analysts and they will know Jake can beat Tommy, otherwise they wouldn't be entertaining it.
Tommy will lose to the YouTuber and that will be the end of his boxing career before turning to modeling, he has two fights left in boxing, the one at the end of this month and the one against Jake.
Also saying he's 22 but look at what Ryan Garcia, Teofimo Lopez, Devin Haney all achieved by that age, Tommy has no excuse, he grew up in a famous boxing family with access to the best trainers and sparring partners all his life but he clearly never made the most of it which is why he's in the position he's in getting laughed at by everyone because he wants to fight a YouTuber.
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@Only1Kizz Tommy is 22, Devin Haney is 22 and look at his record, Ryan Garcia is 22 and look at his record, Teofimo Lopez is 23 and look at his record, plenty boxers his age with 20+ pro fights and not against guys with 0 wins or 100+ losses either, don't give me that rookie excuse bs, he's been boxing since he was a kid, there's no excuse for the shocking standard of opponents he's fighting unless he's absolutely awful, which on the evidence of his opponents, he must be.
Why you even mentioning Jake, he was a fucking YouTuber before only getting into boxing about 3 years ago at 21 years old, he's not been boxing all his life like Tommy has, at least he has an excuse for the opponents he's facing. Also, Jake knows that by saying crazy things like that, describing himself as an elite fighter etc, that it only gains him more attention, hype, hate etc, it's a character he's playing and gullible fools like you seem to buy into it and think he genuinely believes that about himself, when will you realize you're just being sucked into his game and fuelling it even more by constantly talking about and hating on him which is what he wants? Don't you think if he genuinely thought he was an elite fighter he would fight elite boxing opponents to shut everyone tf up? Clown
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@Burrito Supreme I was actually talking about Tommy having a very short amateur career, not Wilder, my only point on Wilder was that he started boxing late like Jake, looks like it's you who can't read, dumb dumb.
Wilder wasn't a PPV draw immediately when he started boxing, Jake was, that's the difference. Wilder fought unknown journeymen bum boxers with no names or followings at the start of his career, Jake can't do that same approach because it makes no sense on the business side, this is where you're failing to understand Jakes unique situation, no one has ever had the spotlight on themselves to this extent in boxing within their first five fights.
Jake can't just fight unknown journeymen boxers with horrible records because the PPV sales will be nowhere near as high compared to Jake fighting opponents who do actually have a name and a following, the problem is, there are no boxers on Jakes level or below in boxing who have big names and large followings, all the boxers with names and followings are miles upon miles better than Jake at boxing, which is why he can't fight them. Tommy Fury was perfect, because he had a name, a following, was a boxer however a very beatable boxer for Jake, hence why Jake and his team accepted the fight.
Jake has chosen to box UFC athletes instead because they have names/followings which sells more PPVs plus they are also beatable for Jake, simple to understand.
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stephen mcaleese State of you ffs, collapsing already this season now the crowds are back eh 😂? Nice wins for Malmo and Dundee Utd, looks like you're back to your bottling ways now the crowds are back, your team is spineless without an empty stadium to play in 😂
You can't talk about abuse ffs, you hired guys such as Harry Dunn and Gordon Neely, let them run riot around Ibrox abusing weans left, right and centre, then when you got rid of Neely, you didn't even report him, letting him go on to abuse others, you have blood on your hands for that.
Take a look at your own club before pointing fingers elsewhere you hypocrite 😂
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