Comments by "" (@gwengold8154) on "Peter Santenello"
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I really enjoyed reading your comments. Peter should do a series on Catholics next. There's a lot that I don't know, even though I'm fairly familiar with some Catholic beliefs.
I really liked what you had to say about the Eucharist. We call it the sacrament. We do allow strangers to take it, which I've never really understood tbh. Sometimes, the members of the church are forbidden from taking it during the repentance process. Some people think this is too harsh, but it really is meant as a protection. We promise God solemnly to keep His commandments and take His name upon us and always remember Him. If someone were deep in sin and just took the sacrament anyway, they bring damnation upon themselves. It's not like they go straight to hades, but it sure isn't good. You have to mean the solemn promises that you make to God.
I would say that our bishops are more like Catholic bishops than pastors in the protestant world. We have the preparatory priesthood, which is the Aaronic priesthood. Then, the Melchizedek priesthood. Generally, a boy, age twelve, is ordained and becomes a deacon. At about fourteen, he would be ordained a teacher. At about sixteen, he would be ordained a priest. At about eighteen, he would be ordained an elder. Later on in life, he would be ordained a high priest. These are some of the offices of the holy priesthood of God. Bishops are, therefore, priests, but they are elders and high priests also. :-) Patriarch is another priesthood office, but only a select few are Patriarchs. Bishops oversee a ward, and the stake president is sort of equivalent to a Catholic bishop.
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I can try to answer some of your questions. All of the top leaders are men. They are what we call the first presidency and the quorum of 12 apostles. They are men because only men are ordained to the priesthood or given the authority to hold the priesthood. We do have what is called auxiliary leaders who are women. They are in charge of the global relief organization called the Relief Society and the Young Women organization and the Primary organization within the church. In every local congregation, there is a bishop who is always male, and a woman always serves as the president over the women.
Most of the church leaders are Republicans. One former member of the first presidency was a Democrat. I believe that one member of the 12 apostles was also a Democrat. But it's rare. Most of the members in Utah are Republicans. You are very, very lonely as a latter-day saint Democrat in Utah. Latter-day saints exist all over America and the world, so outside of Utah, you have a wide range of political views. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada was a latter-day saint and a top Democrat in the United States Senate. We are encouraged to vote and vote our conscience.
We feel about the poor that there should be no poor. We are trying to build a true zion people in anticipation of the return of Jesus Christ. In order for this to truly happen, we would need to eradicate poverty completely. It can be done. We know that the city of Enoch had no poor among them. There is a parable in the Book of Mormon about how a good father will never stand for half his sons to be in rags while half are not. Our God is a loving Father who wants all of His children provided for. The Book of Mormon also says that if a beggar begs bread of us and we say that he has brought it upon himself and we judge him, that it is a sin. It reminds us, "Are we not ALL beggars?"
There are people who say bad things about every single religion in existence. You will have very many people willing to offer their opinions on what the dark side of this religion is. I guess that is up to you to decide. I would say that it is probably that we have not yet become truly one. And the Lord Jesus Christ says, "If ye are not one, ye are not mine."
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@jjoflower6811 We don't believe in a priesthood of all believers. We believe in an actual priesthood. I think that is where some of the confusion comes in. Like the lady said, we believe that every single person born is born with the light of Christ in them. During all ages, there were good people, doing good things. Or trying their best to live a godly life. We simply believe that the authority to hold the authorized priesthood of God was missing. It had been lost to the earth. We say that John the Baptist came to Joseph Smith and ordained him to the priesthood of Aaron, or the Aaronic priesthood. Later, we believe that Peter, James, and John ordained Joseph Smith to the Melchezedek priesthood. Thus, every male in our church who holds the priesthood authority can trace his authority back to Peter, James, and John and then the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
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@user-fc7pr5yc8c It's rather impossible to express my feelings in full in a format like this, but let me just boil it down to this, the guests have something wrong and/or something hard happen. Or they hear things that they hadn't heard before. Instead of asking for wisdom and guidance from the Lord directly, they use their own judgment and their own wisdom to storm out of the church. To me, it feels a little bit immature. Akin to tantrum throwing you'd see in a small child. I remember once in my own life being SO angry at a bishop. It make me actually shake how angry I felt. I went home and immediately went on my knees to cry to my heavenly father about it. I was like, this is YOUR bishop, and how is it OKAY with you that he is behaving like this, etc. Well, my anger calmed, and a peace came over me. I felt like the judgment of this man would be handled by the Lord.
To leave the church is to leave the Lord. When people have an issue with a mortal bishop and in response leave their God over it....well, it really is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It is completely unwise and detrimental. We have to be spiritually mature enough to see the long game. Don't remove yourself from the field before the game is won. Even if you get tackled and bruised along the way.
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@jjoflower6811 Joan, please don't apologize for your long response. I absolutely loved hearing a bit about your life! I am a wee bit jealous that you get to spend time in Nauvoo and see the pageant and all. 😉 It is on my bucket list to make it there for a visit. I'm so happy that you got to experience it, though. Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a synod Lutheran church? I've heard of Lutherans, of course, but I don't know what the synod part means.
It must be SO confusing for a non-member to understand all our beliefs and even our vocabulary! I think that you have such a beautiful heart to even want to learn. You have such a kind heart to have sympathy for our troubles in Missouri. I can tell that you are a true Christian by your love for your fellow humans ❤️. The Lord must be truly pleased with you. Don't worry about learning everything. What I mean is that it is a lifelong learning process for all of us. Every time I read the scriptures, I am truly humbled because I see how little I actually know and how much I have to learn! It can feel overwhelming. But line upon line and precept upon precept. That's a helpful mantra. 😀 My father got dragged around to numerous churches as a child. His mother was apparently on a quest to find a church she liked. When he was 12 years old, he was sent to a Sunday school class. There, he heard the story of the first vision, and he believed it immediately and asked to be baptized. He still had a lifetime of learning ahead of him, though. He got many, many religious books by LDS authors whom he admired and read constantly. I asked him one day how he got to be so smart. I wasn't being flippant. My dad was the smartest person I ever knew! He was so intelligent about everything. He thought for a minute and replied, "Well, I got old!" It made me chuckle. 😆
I guess I better end before I write a literal book! Lol. Thanks so much for your kind spirit. 😊 May God bless you forever and ever. xx
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