Comments by "King Orange" (@kingorange7739) on "Pro-Choice And Pro-Life Supporters Search For Common Ground | Middle Ground" video.

  1. People can change minds after the fact
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  2. sara it’s selfish to think Abortion is ok in general. But many learn after the experience
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  3. Um, whether or not a human child gets killed is not a choice to be made
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  4. Kandy Turtle pregnancy is not a separate act. It’s like saying consent to smoking is not consent to lung cancer. Nature doesn’t care if u consented to it or not.
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  5. Ava Schneider true
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  6. leafy green foots we are all a clump of cells. False logic. Since when did pain or thought constitute being allowed to be killed?
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  7. Personhood is a legal term not scientific and as such has no relevance. But u can kindly tell me how the majority of pro lifers apperently discriminate these people. Human life has value regardless. So discrimination is just as wrong
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  8. Samantha Clay hmmm
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  9. ironic sad so ur ok with a baby being killed for a mother’s convenience?
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  10. ironic sad ok two problems with that statement. First of all that logic would apply just as much after birth as before it. Secondly adoption is an option u know. Once when the pregnancy is done then they can give the child up for adoption.
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  11. ironic sad it’s not that good. But it’s better than killing the baby. Not to mention why would the mother care? She literally is ok with killing the baby.
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  12. TombWraith why don’t u share why it’s ok first?
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  13. TombWraith no it real isnt
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  14. Teen Wolf obsessed so? Why should a baby receive the death penalty for the father’s crime?
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  15. Teen Wolf obsessed an existence of evil does not justify a greater evil being committed.
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  16. So pro choice but only for rape victims. Understandable, disagree but understandable.
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  17. What?
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  18. According to what? Since when is taking the life of someone else ever been a deliberate choice legally speaking?
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  19.  @christinmogese955  the life it has is important. But it is narcissistic to act like their life is conditional on what quality of life they will have especially when no one knows. As for the mother, almost no delivery will end her life.
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  20. Tara Tara nope. Statistics would naturally go down if abortion was taken away the reason illegal abortions occurred back then was because of a lack of alternative options not because of the concept of abortion being outlawed out right
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  21. Tara Tara yeah and who’s fault is that? If they want a 100% Guarantee to not get pregnant. Then abstinence is a thing u know.
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  22. Tara Tara just because u have an urge to do something does not mean u can’t do it.
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  23. Tara Tara and if they do. Tough luck. Sexual urges may not be a choice but having sex is. The same way a homosexual can not be gay. One is based on a sexual drive, the other is based on the actions u choose to do. If u consent to sex, ur consenting to the risks that go with it.
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  24.  @tisithefrenchiestfry5406  do u people just hate biology?
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  25. It is not their life and no ur not pro life. Stop labeling ur self as something that is objectively false.
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  26. Kandy Turtle it is consent to the risk of pregnancy. So to an extent it is.
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  27. War? No? Death Penalty? Depends. There is a concept called justice
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  28. TombWraith explain to me how a newborn can survive without the mother feeding it. Oh wait it can’t.
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  29.  @ntmonme  Ok why?
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  30.  @ntmonme  why do u think they should be able to make that decision?
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  31.  @laurenmiller9482  Ok, why?
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  32. 체리 하이라이트 whose choice? I don’t recall a baby choosing to be aborted. How arrogant are u to believe that “u know” ur child would rather die than give life a chance even if hard. “Safer”? Like the most dangerous thing isn’t killing them? R u joking? No u stfu. Give a real argument for pro choice or fuck off.
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  33. That’s the problem, it ain’t their body. It’s something living in ur body that biologically and morally u consented to by doing the actions that led to it. Rape is the only exception
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  34.  @thesquishiest9575  they consent to the risk of it, yes. The same way someone jumping off a bridge consented to the risk of hurting or killing himself. In a realistic sense, consent to the cause is consent to the effect. Especially when said effect is Telegraphed ahead of time which pregnancy is.
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  35.  @pudden5364  ok without u going out to buy food or be home to care for a newborn, they wouldn’t survive either. Without life support, many people wouldn’t survive. So no that logic doesn’t work. Not unless there is a lot more groups ur willing to condone to death
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  36. Rescue Red not here 😂
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  37. It is not hypocrisy if she changed her ways post abortion. It is actually quite common for people becoming pro life after having an abortion because they realize through guilt and logic that what they did was wrong.
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  38.  @Tomb-Wraith  ok. So a slave owner who regrets having slaves should not be allowed to fight for slavery being illegal? Laughable. Also yes it is wrong, u clearly ignore it does to the child.
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  39. Ok, why?
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  40.  @kittyself  Ok, why?
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  41.  @RoraPea  I did read it. I’m calling out why that logic doesn’t work
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  42.    yep :)
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  43. Mei Mei why?
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  44. Sofia Lulla both
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  45. TombWraith face life? What are u talking about?
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  46. TombWraith how am I forcing that on anyone exactly?
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  47. TombWraith no I’m saying everyone deserves a chance in life. Plain and simple
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  48. It’s not ur body. It’s the child birthday
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  49.  @pinkmosey  how so?
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  50.  @pinkmosey  it’s not hypocritical within a change a heart. People are allowed to change their minds and prevent people from making the same mistakes. Beliefs change. Now if they got an abortion while claiming to be pro life, that would be hypocritical
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  51. But in order to be a hypocrite, u have to have an active contradiction
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  52.  @pinkmosey  wow, what an argument. Trying to pointlessly insult me without debunking a single thing is literally ignorant beyond belief. I wouldn’t even be surprised if u were half brain dead with that logic.
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  53. Ok why
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  54. The concepts are mutually exclusive, sorry.
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  55.  @eloiseyagami4801  because Christianity at its core is anti abortion. Ten Commandments. Murder is a sin. And given that within the Bible, the soul enters from a moment of creation. U r in fact taking the life of someone
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  56.  @thesquishiest9575  source? Also I’m talking about the taking of a life. Mary knew of having Jesus from the moment of conception. Not when he was born. And biology fills the rest of the gaps.
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  57.  @thesquishiest9575  once again. Science has clearly displayed that a fetus is very much living. Whether or not ur in denial of that is irrelevant.
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  58.  @thesquishiest9575  human brain development starts at week 6. Need I go on?
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  59.  @thesquishiest9575  a chicken
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  60.  @thesquishiest9575  and the difference is a fetus exists as its own organism not part of another
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  61. hailey well again the simple premise is why a baby should have to die for being unwanted? Since when did being wanted determine it’s right to live?
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  62. hailey well what’s the other side argument that leaves u conflicted. Maybe I can help change ur mind on the matter. So present any question u would like.
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  63. What?
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  64. Samantha Clay how so?
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  65. It’s not a matter of religion but morality in general. The concept of murder is objectively wrong
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  66. Hahahahha. Amazing, every word ur mother said was wrong. 1. Pro life by definition is against abortion on both a moral and legal level, u cannot be that if ur complacent to abortion. That is contradictory. 2. Babies are not parasites. If u took a single moment to actually research the definition of a parasite, u would be aware that a parasite (Typically that of another species) has to latch on as an external force actively doing harm to the host. Fetuses are not parasites to 2 reasons. 1. A parasite is not something that ur body by design accommodates for. Human biology dictates that a mother by design harbors this child, meaning it is not an intrusive force like a parasite has to be. 2. Pregnancy often brings multiple positive benefits to the mother, look up a list if u don't believe me and as such would be described as a form of mutualism which is a different symbiotic relationship. No offense to ur mother, she's full of it.
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  67.  @wowzah8614  Who would slowly neglect them? Do u forget that adoption is an option?
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  68.  @wowzah8614  The adoption care system is flawed as it is does at least ensures that the child lives and doesn't starve to death. Quality of life could be much better but they have a near guarantee that they will live. Category 2: Invalid.
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  69. No it’s that people are capable of changing their mind
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  70. Killing an innocent human being should never be a choice dear
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  71.  @mxrgxn114  once again. What qualifications would those be and who gets to decide that
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  72.  @mxrgxn114  ok now here is my question are all 7 of those required? And second, is it on a physical level or genetic level?
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  73.  @mxrgxn114  so by that logic, if a man had his penis cut off, he would no longer count as a life. A person of life support would no longer count. Also what kind of environmental responses r u referring to. Again, rob some people are born with defects preventing reproduction and by extension, passing traits to offspring. Does that mean they aren’t a living being? 😂🤦‍♂️
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  74.  @mxrgxn114  ok u realize a fetus does responses as early as 6 weeks. Ability to reproduce at a genetic level begins at conception. The code is there, it’s just being developed, the same way a new born develops
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  75.  @mxrgxn114  the point is, it’s a slippery slope. Because if u say it matters physically then there are a lot more people that wouldn’t count as a human being or living. But if it’s ok a genetic level. That begins from the moment of conception. The genetic code is consistent throughout
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  76.  @calebhelms1176  whether or not u want to take it seriously is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t change the logic holes. Once again, it’s relying on circumstances when that has no weight when trying to clearly define something. The aspects that make up life either matter or they don’t. U cannot have it both ways.
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  77.  @calebhelms1176  once again, I already stated it before. Hey physicality is irrelevant because of the lack of consistency. Like I said even disregarding deformations it would suggest a person who loses their reproductive organs no longer counts as a living being. And again breaking it down on a genetic level, those genetics are formed from the moment of conception. So once again, idk where ur getting at.
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  78.  @calebhelms1176  I never said everything was formed and developed. I said they are made at a genetic level. Obviously growth and development are still needed for it to be there physically. But as mentioned before, the physical aspect doesn’t matter
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  79.  @calebhelms1176  again, If the physical trait matters, it would then imply that anyone lacking even one of these traits which can happen both through deformaties or life circumstances would make their life invalid. Trying to say it’s out there is irrelevant. If it can’t function then it isn’t valid. So once again, if the physical aspect matters then a lot more people are condoned to death. I’m sorry darling. U can’t have ur cake and eat it too.
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  80. No one said they were. Ur point?
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  81. Then ur not pro life
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  82. It can eventually
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  83. What? 😂
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  84. A lot of people who say their pro choice are just pro death. It cuts both ways jackass. How about u actually explain ur argument?
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  85. To a degree, yes.
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  86. It is all good. She should do it.
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  87. What?
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