Comments by "King Orange" (@kingorange7739) on "What Happens If The U.S. Outlaws Abortion? | AJ+" video.

  1. Diane Wiegel abortion is not healthcare
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  2. U do not have to
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  3. Condoms is literally 2 dollars.
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  4.  @victorybeginsinthegarden  "condoms are worn by men give the woman a chance to take personal responsibility in her own hands" - She can still do that with condoms. She can say no to the D if that D does not have a condom on. "yes condoms you can go to any drug store to get 24/7 birth control you have to get a doctor appointment and a prescription" - True, for those that are desperate enough not to get pregnant, such appointments will be taken. "make that process easier for women but anti abortion has nothing to do with protecting women its about controlling women and creating a wedge issue" - Really according to who? U? Any evidence to back such a claim, any pro life members stating anything along those lines? If ur answer is no then I suggest researching what the movement is actually about.
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  5.  @victorybeginsinthegarden  ok that does not change the point. It can still be assessed for those in need of it enough
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  6.  @victorybeginsinthegarden  Pit women against women? How so? Really how do judges rule against worker's rights, environment, and civil rights? Care to explain?
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  7.  @victorybeginsinthegarden  No is that, I am trying to understand ur basis of logic. I want to see what claims are leginiment.
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  8. Does not help
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  9. Mielipidevanki killing someone for your own convenience isn’t right either and technically it’s not forcing the woman to do anything it’s telling them what they can’t do. Also abstinence has a 100% guarantee that you won’t get pregnant.
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  10. Mielipidevanki did u compare population ratio? Not to mention illegal abortions only become common when no alternatives are provided which I do disagree with. Again ur describing Finland with some of the most social safety nets out of any country and u realize that if Finland outlawed abortion tomorrow then it’s rate would be close to none because of all its other benefits. I mean it’s a simple logic. A woman is not actively going to choose the more risky abortion option if she was originally never going to have it while it was legal. That makes no sense. Also whether or not a human being can feel pain does not constitute it living.
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  11. Mielipidevanki so you even downright amid yourself that you mainly support it because you want to dodge the ability of having children. Also I would love for you to make your statement about an embryo/fetus to a woman who had a miscarriage. Because I find it funny how every time someone gets an abortion we just call it a clump of cells but every time it’s a miscarriage we have the decency to call it a baby. So which one is it? Explain to me then why someone who causes a miscarriage can get arrested for homicide. Explain why your mother has the right to bail out of raising a child but the father doesn’t. Explain to me at what point a baby should have constitutional protection because income is not a good basis, NORs level of development, NORs viability, and location is just plain dumb. Also if someone’s willing to go as far as to commit suicide and they know that then they need to get mental help and I don’t even mean that as an insult I mean that for real that they need to go somewhere to prevent themselves from being in endangerment of themselves or their child. Also I find it funny how you’re actually drawling on how you would feel versus actual logic. Your drawing on emotion instead of factual info, simple logic, and plain common sense.
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  12. Mielipidevanki not when people can’t make rational arguments to keeping. Roe v Wade might actually be overturned this year and if the US does then the rest of the world wouldn’t be far behind.
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  13. Mielipidevanki not fully. But it’s the same as u can’t stop murder completely or theft. What’s the point ur trying to make?
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  14. Mielipidevanki why is that? Again where is the logical ground that u would believe killing an innocent human being for someone else’s convenience is ok?
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  15. Mielipidevanki it’s not forcing her to do anything. It’s saying what can’t be done. Thinking and pain does not constitute human life.
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  16. Mielipidevanki consciousness does not constitute life if that were the case then we would be allowed to just kill anyone in a coma. People in comas don’t know that they’re alive either and neither do people and there’s so that’s a poor apartment
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  17. Mielipidevanki yes it has. Life begins at conception.
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  18. Mielipidevanki that’s biologically false. There is no such thing as a half human being. It’s either a human being or it isn’t. Thankfully biology answered that question.
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  19. Mielipidevanki size does not constitute life. Also it’s not subjugating a woman to anything. Their already pregnant based on their own choices. So it’s simply telling them they can’t kill the fetus to undo their own mistake. Also yes it is a complete human being. Ur claim is objectively wrong. Facts do not care about ur feelings.
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  20. Mielipidevanki oh then killing innocence should be a right? Dang better make murder legal too then.
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  21. Mielipidevanki it is my business. Claiming that killing innocence is ok to u doesn’t change what the action is. So tell me u claim that we have different sentiments. What’s ur sentiment in regards of killing innocent human beings?
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  22. Mielipidevanki unless u have real logical basis to back ur arguments then u r simply labeling under a delusion. No offense. But simply put, it u can’t truly put in logical arguments then u r doing nothing to help the pro choice cause. So again, give an actual logical argument to me on why abortion should be legal and also tell me at what point it would not be ok. When is the cut off and why?
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  23. Mielipidevanki so you would view a living being as property sounds a lot like slavery to me. Also know people come in knowing the contraceptions don’t work all the way yet they still choose to use them and have sex. When you have sex that commitment is made and you know the risk that goes with it. Whether or not they can think yet or feel yet or know that it’s alive yet does not change that it is in fact a separate human being. It is biological fact. Also define knowing that ur alive. Because I don’t think a baby after birth knows it’s alive either.
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  24. Mielipidevanki also how many times must I state this it’s not forcing the woman to do anything pregnancy is not a decision it is not an act it is a byproduct of a choice that you made prior to pregnancy. So no society by making abortion illegal is not forcing the woman to do anything it is simply telling them that they cannot kill an innocent human baby based on their own mistakes.
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  25. Mielipidevanki your argument lacks any consistent logic through your argument you were pretty much justified a mother killing her baby at any point even after birth you have justified slavery and whether you would like to amid it or not you’re pretty much justifying the holocaust.
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  26. Mielipidevanki Seriously you are lacking any grasp on consistent logic. You’ve made points up that are contradictory to each other. So I will ask yet again at what point should an innocent human being because it to The to be protected under legal wall and why? Because your arguments have fallen two at best ignorant and worse delusion. People in comas don’t know that they’re alive either, babies after birth for at least the first two years of their life or completely dependent on the mother to survive or at least someone that can fill her place, a newborn has no knowledge on the outer world either. Again it’s a big contradiction. Either all innocent human beings have intrinsic value or none do. So which is it?
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  27. Mielipidevanki then advocate for all killing and slavery to be legal as well then. If ur going to have that sentiment then be consistent about it. So go ahead tell me that murder and slavery are ok. Tell me that!
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  28. Purple Panda be patient my friend and it will soon happen
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  29. No one is taking that choice away from u. U can choose to have that baby or not. But once when ur pregnant, that choice has been made. U don't get to kill another human being to undo ur mistakes.
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  30. Sude Haciali except for one problem. That logic would only apply to a removal. Not a deliberate termination. Once when it becomes a deliberate termination it is no longer about u. There are other ways to end a pregnancy early u know. Especially when medical cases come up of babies surviving as young as 6 months. Even earlier than that when under the use of an artificial incubator. Also like I said before. I would argue that any choice is already made before hand.
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  31. Sude Haciali and? Upholding a right to live does not equal obligation to take care of them. That’s horseshit logic
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