Comments by "King Orange" (@kingorange7739) on "CNN" channel.

  1. We are not denying them options. They have 4: Contraceptions, abstinence, adoption, and parenthood. The only one being denied is the one involving the murder of the newest family member.
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  2.  @reg5381  Why would the pro choice care what happens to the kid, considering they are ok with killing them. Also the solution to that is to crack down on those issues and improve the foster care system, not use its flaws as an excuse to commit even worse acts.
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  3.  @reg5381  really? That’s it? No counters? I bet the south said the same thing to northern abolitionists.
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  4. wearenotamused atall So we should kill all kids in foster care because they aren’t wanted?
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  5. Dan Norton premeditated killing of another innocent human being. That is why
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  6. Just Saying we’re all a bunch of cells. I love your attempts to dehumanize it even though you can’t scientifically prove that it isn’t human. I can prove that it is scientifically human. That’s what conception is for. Called clump of cells if you want it doesn’t change what it is.
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  7. 「Pinorska」 but that logic anyone should just be allowed to be killed. The logic is inconsistent. Also by that nature it makes u immoral. Admitting that abortion is evil.
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  8. We didn’t poke anything. Russia chose to start this just because they couldn’t bully Ukraine into not joining NATO.
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  9. Wow what a wonderful thing to compare your own child to a parasite. Even ignoring how that isn’t the case on a biological level, it also ignores that a Fetus does provide health benefits to the mother.
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  10. Also the fact you can’t tell what the 10th amendment is and the fact it has nothing to do with women is remarkable. Do research before commenting
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  11.  @katgibbs-mccoy4947  that’s not what the 10th amendment is. The 10th amendment goes as follows. “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” The overturning of Roe V Wade has been in adherence to the 10th amendment not against it
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  12.  @katgibbs-mccoy4947  Once again incorrect on both counts. Heartbeat begins 22 days after fertilization. With its earliest detections at 5 weeks. Also arguing on the grounds of viability is a rather slippery slope. I also mentioned that for something to be a parasite, it would have to be a parasitic organism (typically of a different species) that forcibly latches on to its host and only operates at the expense of the host. However science has already proved that health benefits are provided to the woman by the Fetus including but not limited to stem cells.
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  13. Just Saying trying to direct me to a different problem doesn’t change the current problem. Also we aren’t just having 3 weeks being aborted. We have full 8 to 9 months being aborted. So that holds no validation. Also my girlfriend went through a false alarm thinking she was pregnant and even then we agreed not to do an abortion. Once when a pregnancy happens, it’s not just about the mother anymore. It ain’t interfering with anything. When doctors profit out of it, u could literally use the commerce argument to illegalize it
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  14.  @rollmops3113  Thank you
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  15. Rafid Hossain here’s the thing a woman isn’t being forced into anything if she gets pregnant it simply having her carry out the natural course that her body is designed to do. Not to mention even if you were to defend cases of rape that occurs only 1% of all abortion cases which means it would be intellectually dishonest to justify the other 98 to 99% of abortions that happen purely for convenience.
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  16.  @denniswakabayashi9000  murder charges has nothing do with the actual act of murder
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  17.  @denniswakabayashi9000  You seem to not grasp that just because something can be done legally wouldn’t change the act being carried out on what it is. Stealing is still stealing even if it’s legal, murder is still murder even if it’s legal.
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  18. Mj Matagaono disagree
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  19. I couldn’t agree more. That’s the dishonest thing about the pro choice movement
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  20. chloe mendes how is it healthcare to murder a baby?
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  21. Nice try at using the most rare and extreme case to try to justify the other 99.9% of cases that isn’t carried out over that. Start being honest with your argument
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  22. Hahahahaha, Despite a literal commandment making clear of "Thou shall not murder." Also to note since you wish to call it a right, where in the constitution explicitly grants a right to abortion? Short answer, there aren't any.
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  23. Dan Norton gaining consciousness is not tied to purely sleep. Ur logic is failing. Get ur facts straight or stfu.
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  24. No he isn’t. U fail to understand Putin wanted this war to happen. The President was an excuse. The same way as the Danzig Corridor was Germany’s excuse for invading Poland. Doesn’t change that they were going to do it anyway no matter what
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  25. Ok Russia can leave Ukraine alone then
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  26.  @joycemjinx  it also use to be a law for eugenics. Your point? No country has a clean past
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  27. USSR couldn’t even maintain itself for a century, cope harder
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  28. SplixSzn not for this no
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  29. SplixSzn that’s an opinion not a fact.
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  30. Simple, arm the schools.
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  31. The Nazi Batallion already got wiped out earlier in the war. Stop doing false labels for ur agenda
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  32. Name even one example
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  33. What hypocrisy are you referring to? Also what source indicates that the majority are in favor of it? I hope you’re not seriously taking CNN at their word. Thirdly majority principle does not matter within a court’s interpretation of the constitution. That’s their job. The only branch majority principal truly matters in is Congress.
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  34.  @spiceyhotpot  did I say majority were in favor of outlawing it? You are the one saying the majority support it. The burden of proof falls on you to back said claim.
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  35.  @spiceyhotpot  name even one source and really what claim did I say that the majority opposed it. I explained it wasn’t relevant.
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  36.  @spiceyhotpot  it’s not wasting anything. And it shouldn’t be that hard finding one source to back it. Also I did look on google, not one mentions 70% supporting it. Are you prepared to concede or are you going to actually send evidence?
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  37. So am I to assume you were against vaccine mandates? Also they did consent when they did the thing that directly caused pregnancy
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  38. Just Saying no u do have other choices. There is 4. 2 made before pregnancy and 2 made after. Contraceptions, abstinence, motherhood, and adoption. I’m only against the choice that involves intentionally killing a human life. I’m just going to ask, at what point would an abortion not be ok. What constitutes human life to u?
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  39. Just Saying OK but the problem is those rules aren’t solidified. You may think that abortion up to 12 weeks is the only acceptable option however many you would be OK with it all the way till birth the problem with your argument is regardless of what I deal or not it’s not a consistent logical line because there’s no factual basis to back it biologically speaking the beginning of a new human life is conception and as such is the only consistent line that can be drawn
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  40. Just Saying how so?
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  41. Dan Norton and I asked time and time again why yet u never gave a valid answer
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  42. Maybe, maybe not. It’s not really the point
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  43. teatime won’t change either way
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  44. wearenotamused atall well guess what not all are. Does that mean we should kill them? No? Then why do people think it’s ok to kill a baby during pregnancy? I can understand in cases that do cause danger to the mother. But other than that to me it feels mis guided to no end.
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  45. Unlikely
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  46. Hahaha you must be joking
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  47.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  um here’s the history. Ukraine became an independent nation after the collapse of the Soviet Union and has been recognized as such by the UN. As such Russia has no right to make such invasion especially when Ukraine even made a deal with Russia to return its nuclear arsenal in exchange for security guarantees
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  48.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  I never said they did.
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  49.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  I don’t agree with the US actions there either and people were right to condemn us back then just as Russia is being condemned now
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  50.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  hmmm funny question. It’s a good thing we never alienated Canada or Mexico to the point where they felt the need to do that. Alliance protections are done mostly out of fear of aggression. Something Russia has done consistently throughout its history. But likely the US would cut off much of its trade and further fortify its border. We wouldn’t be invading though I can tell you that much
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  51.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  there was no promise not to expand NATO. The closest the truth you could argue was a verbal agreement was done between Bush and Gobetrov back in the days of the Soviet Union that NATO would not expand into east Germany after the withdraw of Soviet troops and assets. Even disregarding the fact that it was never a legal binding agreement, it was made mute when Germany reunified on its own and when the Soviet Union collapsed.
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  52.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  The broken treaties with the Natives were done over 2 centuries ago so once again I don't know if you want to go with that whataboutism unless you are prepared to hold Russia to the same standard. Also define recent, the USSR stopped existing. Treaties with a regime that no longer exists is made pretty mute. So unless you are prepared to use an actual recent example of the US violating a treaty, I suggest finding new ground to argue.
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  53.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  The Cuban Missle Crisis you mean. And yes we drew a line to prevent allowing the entry of nukes. That had nothing to do with Cuba allying with Russia.
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  54.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  Once again back in the 1800s? The US has not carried action against Mexico within the last 30 years, even before that. The drug and illegals are a problem though. As for Canada, we have been operating as an ally with Canada since WW2. So once again I don't really see what point you are trying to make.
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  55.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  Ok your point is completely based on a whataboutism. No different than what if your wife tried to kill you. It's possible but for most people as so far off that it is not worth even considering. And I already answered how the US would likely respond given its track record. It would likely cut off trade, fortify the border, and maybe resort to sanctions. The US usually will deal with what it perceives as a threat through economic strangulation rather than military incursion. Much like how we responded to Imperial Japan's conquest of China during WW2. Also you only have to look as far as the Zimmerman telegram to understand that Canada and Mexico don't have an interest in combatting the US.
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  56.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  once again I never acted as if some of the US’ outlook hasn’t been somewhat hypocritical, ignoring Russia operated in doing the same thing as the Soviet Union. Just saying you can’t absolve Russia of its own shit when comparing the two nations within the same time frame. Also to note that I don’t believe two wrongs make a right. So I will just as easily condemn the US when it does terrible actions as much as Russia. However the key difference is the US’ sins exist in its past while Russia’s is existing now.
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  57.  @ЕкатеринаИгуральникова  "These are not just a two wrongs but too many wrongs done by US recently.." - Like? "But many too many wrongs..And I'm not talking just past wrongs but present wrongs too.USA is being involved in Ukraine right before the war and it's being involved right now by fueling this conflict ..." - That isn't a wrong. The United States as a nation has a legal obligation to Ukraine as the US is one of the 3 nations that promised to ensure Ukraine's security in exchange for Ukraine returning its nuclear arsenal to Russia. "So the US 's wrongs are never stopped..And it is not just in Ukraine but in Syria and Iraq too." - Firstly there isn't any actions the US have recently done in Syria or Iraq "USA has installed illegal military bases on these countries oilfields without any consent of these countries governments.So US has been practically stealing other countries oil." - You are missing my point. Once again you are doing a whatabotism. I don't support what the US did then anymore than what is happening in Ukraine now. And the thing I would simply mention as that it has nothing to do with Ukraine itself.
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  58. Ok why should it be up to the mother? 🤦‍♂️
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  59.  @dadadadoog  That was not my question
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  60.  @dadadadoog  I saw the point you were trying to make. But it isn’t relevant. 🤦‍♂️
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  61.  @dadadadoog  Ok similar arbitrary lines were drawn when it came to slavery. Just because something historically has been done doesn’t make it ok to do.
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  62. Mojave Red killing is ok if the person is a threat to society.
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  63. Billy Boy Thou shall not murder. Look up the Hebrew bible.
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  64. xvii-TEA right so instead we just tear their bodies apart and suck them in a vacuum. Maybe if people knew how to just manage the children we already had these issues wouldn’t even be needed.
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  65.  @joeyhawk2737  not even slightly
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  66.  @joeyhawk2737  no he didn’t. Clearly you don’t know the concept of free will. He gave us the ability to make choices
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  67.  @joeyhawk2737  again, capacity of free will comes with suffering. As we are not in heaven bud. And the suffering you refer to is often caused either by the works of the devil or by other human beings.
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  68.  @joeyhawk2737  Were you born with it? Or did it occur through the course of your life? Do you not understand that life circumstances can give that?
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  69.  @joeyhawk2737  which is
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  70.  @joeyhawk2737  I don't think you have been forsaken. Even after you are gone, if you accept the lord, he will welcome you to heaven. That is eternal life. Unfortunately we don't get to choose how long we have on Earth, we can only choose what we do with the time we do have. I am sorry for what you are facing, but if you ask for it, God will save you. Maybe that will mean a second chance in this life, or at the very least being welcomed in the Eternal Life. Either way, he won't abandon for forsake you.
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  71.  @joeyhawk2737  He didn't. Sadly we are left bad hands in life, sometimes its based on what we do in life, otherwise it's just how we came into being. God didn't give you cancer. That is something that was always going to be part of you either through your genetics or what you did in life.
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  72. Do u have any statistics to back those claims?
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  73. What fair share would that be?
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  74. Um no it really doesn’t. Taiwan became recognized by the Un as a sovereign nation, and peace agreements were settled to ensure Taiwan’s existence. Also I don’t think u get to say that when independence has been held for over 60 years. That’s like saying Korea should still be considered Japanese
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  75. So by your logic. The Nazis conquest of Europe didn’t concern us either
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  76. Ur a good man my friend
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  77. Nice attempt at conspiracies. Isn’t it funny that Putin only made a move when the Dems were in power?
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  78. Nice attempt at conspiracies. Isn’t it funny that Putin only made a move when the Dems were in power?
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  79. Yeshua Bought no. It really shouldn’t be
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  80. Lunar Robot it should never be a choice to begin with if you want the technical answer then legal law. I never said that I man nor the father should have control of that the fact of the matter is no one should. Unless in the case for medical emergency then it should never be a decision to begin with.
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  81. Lunar Robot if they want to commit illegal actions if abortion got outlawed because they get so desperate to kill their baby then I’m sorry I’m not gonna feel bad about that. As for foster homes increasing members I’m certain that most children would rather live even if it’s through a complicated and difficult life then for them to be killed. I mean if you wanna prove otherwise then you can look up the suicide ratio.
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  82. Right, can’t even beat the 22nd best army.
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  83.  @segriofergio3151  not even close
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  84. Maybe because he’s the leader of a country. What good is coordinating a war if ur dead.
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  85.  @mariafletcher4055  It isn't again. He did go out on the field when he could, but he can't do that now without actively endangering himself, and his death would be a major morale blow if he got killed or captured. Also that is not over. But when the war front as in ur home, u got to have a safe zone.
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  86.  @mariafletcher4055  To act like he should surrender based on some casualties is ignorance at best. Putin can end this by simply leaving, but he won't. And Ukraine won't stop until Russia does.
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  87.  @mariafletcher4055  Also u only have to look at Vietnam to know that constant fighting will tire the enemy eventually.
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  88. 🤦‍♂️ nope
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  89.  @ankmamma688  not when u chose to put them there. If u donate blood to someone u cannot stab them during a transfusion
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  90.  @ankmamma688  Its not a matter of waking up. You chose to be in that spot. Unless you're referring to rape victims, the risk of pregnancy was completely the choice of the woman in question. They made their choice and they don't get to kill someone to undo it.
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  91.  @ankmamma688  elaborate
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  92.  @ankmamma688  assuming that I am responsible for putting them in that life threatening condition? Then I should be held legally accountable if he dies. The same way a mother should be held legally accountable if she attempts an abortion.
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  93.  @ankmamma688  so indirectly, yes.
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  94.  @ankmamma688  No one person would ever be purely responsible I expect ur arguments to be grounded in reality
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  95.  @ankmamma688  no i think it should be illegal due to the deliberate termination of another innocent human being. The woman being at fault is simply stating their accountability so they understand they’re not victims in this
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  96.  @ankmamma688  that’s not an abortion then. That’s a c section based removal or a premature birth. An abortion is deliberately trying to kill the child. So if the child could be removed without killing him or her then yes I’d be fine with it
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  97.  @ankmamma688  really, so now ur just making judgements then? I already stated if the child can be removed without killing him or her then I’d be fine. What part of that is complicated? Do u pro choice people always just give up the minute it’s an actual struggle to convince someone?
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  98. Ignoring Putin himself is a hypocrite and tyrant.
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  99. Most volunteered, also what do u think drafts are?
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  100. We are not forcing them anything, denying them a barbaric procedure that directly kills the unborn is not forcing them into shit, they chose to get pregnant, they chose to have sex being fully aware of the risks that directly came with it. Also to note guns are part of the 2nd amendment specifically to prevent a dictator from rising to power. Or are we going to ignore that many of the nations that criticize America had at least one, major tyrant in their history.
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  101. Um no. Also the world listens because unlike Russia, we actually made a positive impact on nations around us.
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  102. It’s not your business on what you do to the child’s body and since the child cannot defend itself then it is the duty of the government or other concern parties to do so on their behalf. We don’t care what you do to ur body. We only care what is done to the child
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  103. They never defeated the Americans. Did u forget the war ended in a statement and it only ended like that because US did not want to escalate things?
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  104. Murder isn’t a right bud. Also don’t even go there, you Dems didn’t even believe the “my body, my choice” when it came down to vaccine mandates.
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  105. Hahahaha no
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  106. In most cases no since the action is done before conception
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  107. More whataboutism I see
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  108. Actually the baby doesn’t
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  109. Hahahaha, this is funny.
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  110. Abortion isn’t contraception
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  111. He did offer a ceasefire to the pre war border in exchange for not joining NATO. Russia rejected the offer
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  112. Not as much as the Dems
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  113.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Right, so let’s put that logic to the test. The Nazis doing to Holocaust was perfectly legal within their country, yet it was still one of the largest mass murders and genocides in human history. Do research before making assertions
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  114. Hahahhahaha, because the left is filled with hypocrites.
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  115.  @joeyhawk2737  well maybe u should try to prevent that as a husband?
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  116.  @brotherjohnnyxXxX  what do you call the draft? What do you call anti neglect laws? Yes when it comes to preventing actively harming another innocent human being, a “body” can be controlled for that. Also at this point, you leftists don’t even have any room to talk considering how quickly you supported vaccine mandates.
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  117. Clearly you don’t pay attention to basic biology. It’s not her body we are concerned on
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  118. Not your body honey. Also there are plenty of reasons to be against abortion without religion being involved
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  119. Basically
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  120. Iris vermeend that is biologically incorrect. U should look up what conception even means.
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  121.  @khalilfreeman7194  nope, she made her choice, once when pregnant it is no longer about her exclusively.
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  122. Bullet Anarchy yes it is.
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  123. Why is that?
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  124. Sashiyaki ok. And?
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  125. Sashiyaki ok before we continue, would u agree then, that any majority case outside of rape should be illegal. Such as killing for pure lifestyle convenience. Can we every other reason of abortion except for rape and life threatening instances should be illegal?
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  126. Sashiyaki also adoption is an option
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  127.  @sashiyaki9362  I do, I'm saying the cost does not equal the destruction of a human life.
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  128.  @sashiyaki9362  I can agree with that as a problem that needs to be solved and I intend to spend much of my adulthood working to solve those problems.
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  129. Sashiyaki no because now ur attempting to kill base on income which is classist, and also by prediction which holds merit against the child considering u r saying what might happen versus what more than likely will happen. Also again it’s not consistent. Adoption is still an option, no one is forcing her to raise the kid, not to mention that again whether or not a baby is hard is once again a logic u can apply to babies after birth. Meaning it’s not consistent.
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  130. stacey gewin I do consider it. But people confuse consideration to needing to bow down which I won’t. I’m sorry, a human being is worth more than the cost of a c section.
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  131.  stacey gewin  I do agree with that.
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  132.  stacey gewin  So r we now just talking about rape cases?
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  133.  @smkxodnwbwkdns8369  care to deconstruct why? Or r u just going to throw blind insults?
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  134. Bankrupt from what? Have u not seen what world war 2 gained us?
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  135. Not even close. This was a long time coming, also why should the Dems care? Their states can still have it.
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  136. You mean one single Nazi Batallion? And I hate to break it to you, political affiliation is not justification for invasion
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  137. Noah Shah false in so many areas
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  138. You realize women can do sports, go to bars, etc. and there are stay at home dads, they are a little rare because typically a mother will value her time with her child more. But they do exist. The fact you advocate “they should forget they have kids” just shows how disingenuous you’re being
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  139.  @DonaBlancas  this ain’t even a counter
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  140. How brainwashed you’ve became
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  141. According to who? You? Ukraine still has most of its territories and continued to perform well on the field. What we cannot afford is to allow Putin to be appeased.
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  142. No high credited pro lifer advocated limiting contraceptions. Realistically they wouldn’t be able to anyways, you can literally get a package of condoms for less than $12. As for the education, the main point of the importance of abstinence is it’s the only guaranteed way not to get pregnant. Even with birth control and contraceptions, you are still accepting the risk of a 1% chance of getting pregnant
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  143.  Bullet Anarchy  from my pov hardly. And I’ll admit I was generalizing. But an overwhelming majority of pro lifers don’t advocate limiting contraceptions.
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  144. What? 😂
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  145. And nearly half of the women are in favor of pro life. Nice try though
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  146.  @Panroles  your right they aren’t. One murders a life
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  147.  @idealidol5596  ignoring that birth rates are actually decreasing in the USA, Texas can house the whole world population, and the fact that subscribing to an overpopulation fallacy doesn’t give you the right to kill others. You must be a Thanos did nothing wrong crowd. Sorry if your that worried about there being too many people, that 1.8 million. Idk man, you can always decrease it one by taking one for the team.
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  148. Nice try at a strawman. Also I don't even think I need to get into how arrogant that mindset is.
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  149. Sadly
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  150. And biology has already contradicted this. And this isn’t even relevant for people that don’t draw on the Bible for their arguments.
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  151. No but they do turn their weapons against their own tyrants
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  152. Also what do u call the withdraw from Afghanistan and the Soviet collapse? 😂
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  153. How so?
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  154. Bubba Tao r u a fucking joke? No u fucking idiot. U r not doing the kid a favor by killing it. U are still depriving it of the life it can live. Also not everyone believes in religion u dumb fuck. U think so little of life, then start with ur self before think of depriving anyone else of their life.
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  155.  @blooberryproductions904  No I wouldn't. And neither would most pro life members. Obviously in the case of life threatening. The right of life for the mother does not end for the child. Obviously the mother comes first, especially when likely the child would die alongside the mother anyways. However there is a major difference between something being an active threat to your life vs something being inconvenienced for your life. And I find it most humorous that in literally every abortion argument I enter, pro choice members always try to pull the most extreme examples to rationalize their logic, despite it being a severe minority, meaning that even if that isolated circumstance could be acceptable (Which most I still don't), that it would somehow justify the 98% being done for pure lifestyle convenience.
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  156.  @blooberryproductions904  It is when your weighing it against the life of a human being. I agree no one should go through that, but by the same token no one should be killed just because they are considered dreadful to someone else. Also no one is forcing anything. That is what is failed to understand. Force requires one to do something that would not already be done. It is a prohibition. A woman is weighed with 5 options rn. Abstinence, Contraception, Motherhood, Adoption, and for rn abortion. Pro life is against the 5th because of it involving the deliberate destruction of another human being. Does not change that those other 4 options exist. Also child support does exist and I will agree requires greater enforcement. So the idea of "getting no help from the husband" would not apply here. Instead pro life wants both the mother and father to be held accountable for the child.
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  157.  @blooberryproductions904  ok and as mentioned before there are alternatives. And also as mentioned before this is an extreme case. So I’ll ask would u concede that Abortion for those above 18 if it isn’t a life threatening case should be illegal?
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  158.  @blooberryproductions904  can be better but they exist. Also they are far better than abortion ever would be.
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  159.  @blooberryproductions904  ok why is that?
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  160.  @blooberryproductions904  ok and wouldn’t the solution be to improve those systems rather than using their faults as an excuse to kill the kids instead?
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  161.  @blooberryproductions904  ok once again, the solution is to do better not use it as an excuse. Also let’s apply that logic then. If a mother feels it’s in the best interest should she be allowed to kill her newborn?
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  162.  @blooberryproductions904  it’s not stupid when u realize that’s the equivalence. Ur adding to my point. Why is it killing newborns is so bad yet killing unborns is seen as a right. Murder isn’t a right
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  163.  @blooberryproductions904  unless ur referring to an individual under a major medical risk from the child, then yes. They can do it
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  164.  @blooberryproductions904  Also I never said it was right morally. Unless ur a sociopath anyone knows it’s morally wrong. The problem is they see it as a right to be done. And that brings the logical gaps
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  165. The bridge was hit to prevent supplies and reinforcements being sent to Ukraine. Russia was using it for military purposes, as such it isn’t a civilian target
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  166.  @ramgarhia9945  and?
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  167. No abortion is safe. Also, “we can only ban safe theft, we can only ban safe rape.” 🤦‍♂️
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  168. Not even close. Also under what crime? Like seriously, what is so hard about both the male and female being responsible?
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  169. maddy p. Actually statistically more women are pro life in the United States than men so do us a favor and do research before commenting also it’s not your body that’s being torn apart and suck the vacuum it’s your child’s body and as such that my body my choice argument is invalid so nope
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  170. No, Roe V Wade was done to enforce allowing the termination of the unborn on a federal level. Not a thing anymore.
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  171. Abortion ain’t a right bud
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  172.  @Glumclam  ok and it’s not your body in question. It’s the Child’s
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  173.  @bigboy8421  and how would you in any sense consider the murder of a baby to be considered a private matter?
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  174.  @bigboy8421  it’s has plenty to do with the child. Murder of a child is not a private matter just as domestic abuse or Chile abuse isn’t either
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  175.  @bigboy8421  and you are relying on a logical fallacy. Your right to life does not equal the right to be provided for by a third party source
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  176. K-V have u not watched a single pro life session?
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  177. Lunar Robot part of it but also due to logical gaps.
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  178. Lunar Robot well to answer this let me first ask u why u think abortion should be legal and why the unborn child should not be legally protected from the mother.
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  179. Lunar Robot OK what’s first look at your foster care argument while I will agree that there are plenty of problems with it one evil does not justify a greater evil being committed. Instead the energy should be focused on actually fixing those problems instead of just using them as an excuse to kill unborn babies.
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  180. Lunar Robot whether or not it has rights is determined by the law selves saying that it doesn’t have rights is dumb we know it doesn’t have rights right now the question is why it shouldn’t have rights.
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  181. Lunar Robot also you’re incorrect on the last matter but it’s not forcing a mother to do anything yes when you get pregnant you end up becoming a mother that’s pretty much simple logic. But here’s the thing a choice has to be made before you get pregnant and 99% of cases that choice is the mother having sex because she loved the spouse or the guy very very much. So she made the choice that led to her pregnancy and as such now has a child that has become her responsibility until that responsibility can be passed on someone else. This is why I have a mother refuse to care for her child after birth she would be arrested for at best negligence. Just saying.
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  182. The hell u mean?
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  183. Abortion ain’t a right
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  184. Not even slightly. If Russia wants an open fight against the US and NATO, have them invade an actual NATO nation and wait to see how long it would take before Moscow has a US flag
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  185. Nope because a miscarriage is not the fault of anyone. At least if it’s accidental. So no one would be blamed for that.
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  186. The Bible isn’t relevant to this point. I don’t want contraceptions banned, neither do most pro lifers. Preventing the existence of a life is not the same as taking a life.
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  187. No they really don’t. Do not believe everything CNN tells you bud
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  188. And the court over turning it has nothing to do with the majority principle. That is Congress job. If it violates or is not stated in the constitution, the court will not pass it to enforce. It does not matter if 99% agreed with it. If people wanted it as law, then a new amendment would have to be done with that. However that is never going to happen.
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  189. You don't get to kill someone for being unwanted.
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  190. Ok and here is a very basic rebuttal. At what point should a “Clump of Cell” be regarded as a human being with a right to live.
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  191.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Right so let’s get this straight. You take someone who is biologically at a same level of development and as around the same age, and you determine that one is a human being for being born and the other isn’t? Ok so here’s a simple question, is the birth canal some magical gateway of humanity?
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  192.  @denniswakabayashi9000  it really isn’t moot. You are drawing a rather arbitrary line that from a biological pov has no sense. 2. Legality doesn’t equal morality. We have seen many times in history that things that were morally abhorrent were legal for a long time. Slavery comes to mind. Or maybe even the Holocaust considering the Nazis committed that because the Jews weren’t persons to them. No matter which way you slice it, basing the validity of a life on “personhood” is completely arbitrary. 3. I find it rather funny that you would deny the humanity of someone who biologically is far more developed. So by your logic, an 8 month who is born a month early is more human than a 9 month who is going to be born in 2 days. As mentioned before there is no sense behind that and you don’t have to be a religious zealot to clearly see the gaps in that logic.
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  193. Not even close
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  194. Elliot Delmar which is why rapists need capital punishment. Not getting a baby killed.
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  195. Utha I’m not a republican. I don’t deny some Republican hypocrisy but the democrats are just as bad if not worse. No I’m on the side of justice. Death comes to those that do wrong and ruin the lives of people. Not babies. If Democrats want to call people like me hypocrites because we support the death penalty and oppose abortion then literally they confessed to their own hypocrisy by having the opposite values.
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  196. Nice attempt at false equivalence. Maybe you need to take a break from CNN
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  197.  @Kuroitakai  the father would technically be held responsible for it
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  198.  @Kuroitakai  also what statistics hold the rape. You realize that myth has been debunked many times.
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  199.  @YouknowIliveforever  such as?
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  200.  @doctorprotein2807  how so?
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  201.  @klove3764  some are others aren’t. I am not in favor of contraceptions being removed.
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  202. Ice The Caterpillar unless ur the mother to the second coming of Christ then that won’t happen to u.
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  203. Yes we make mistakes, that doesn’t give us the right to harm others to bail us out from them. Also if I think stealing is ok, you are forcing your beliefs on me by your logic
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  204. So not allowing murder is somehow not a good thing? LOL
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  205.  @maxpw9270  it’s not on earth? Oh, what planet is him or her on?
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  206. They already reproduced. They only thing being added is not being allowed to kill what you produced, regardless of where they are
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  207.  @alexscreations6041  Nice try throwing a reverse question. Not really relevant to my counter, people went on trying to claim abortion as a constitutional right despite nowhere in the constitution saying so. The burden of proof falls on you. If it isn’t a constitutional right, which it isn’t. Means that it can be regulated and even outlawed as much or as little as the government pleases.
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  208. And then Russia will turn into a crater
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  209. Thank you my friend
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  210. And then Russia gets wiped from. The map
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  211. Nope
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  212. Not even close
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  213. Um no
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  214. What? 😂
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  215. Your child is an it? Damn, way to compare a human being with an object to just own and discard. Wonder when the last time Americans did that? Almost like the Democrats defended dehumanizing a group of people and wanted to keep the ability to use them as we pleased. IDK, maybe it is in some book that takes place in 1861.
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  216. Um no, it never was a woman's right to kill her own child. If you think otherwise, point me to an admendment where it explicitly says it as a right.
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  217. Banning abortion is not making anyone a second class citizen. In fact it’s actually consistent with holding both the mother and father accountable instead of allowing the mother a bailout and not the father.
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  218.  @secret_salamanders  Really now. Because we’re not the ones simping for pro choice activists just to get laid. 😂
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  219.  @secret_salamanders  Buddy you clearly don’t know what hypocrite means. And If you wish to discuss exceptions then a general rule has to be agreed upon
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  220. Nope. No promises on that end were made to Russia
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  221. Also nice try on whataboutisms.
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  222. Why are you rooting for a tyrannical regime who is under taking an imperial conquest on another sovereign nation?
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  223. Says the Democrats trying to start another one
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  224. FrostBite true
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  225. Iris vermeend I don’t care if you view it harder for them or not biologically a fetus embryo whatever you wanna call it is a separate life form this is biologically proven. So no it is not like the spit from your mouth. Also I don’t care if they’re going through a hard time unless they’re a medical risk then they have absolutely no business in taking the life of another innocent human being for their convenience. Which by the way improving your own living standard also count as convenience.
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  226.  @irisvermeend6657  Neither will a baby after birth yet I doubt u would advocate for babies after birth to be killed as well.
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  227.  @irisvermeend6657  Also so what. Since when did u actively say u have to live in order to be protected by law to prevent someone else from killing u?
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  228.  @jaylas5323  scientifically it is alive. Just because it doesn’t fit your twisted world view doesn’t mean you get to be ignorant of science and destroy human beings at a time that we already passed
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  229.  @jaylas5323  taken its first breath doesn’t mean it isn’t alive. And there is no control involved, they made the choice to be pregnant, no one forced that on them. So with that in mind, there is no control involved within enforcing the child’s constitutional right to live
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  230.  @jaylas5323  such as? I don’t know of anyone who actively forces someone to get pregnant. Also define force.
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  231.  @jaylas5323  take the condom off? R u being for real? Do tell me how he is suppose to take it off while his dick is in her
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  232.  @jaylas5323  source?
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  233. LOL. So is it christians controlling people when standard murder and theft were outlawed? Commandments were against those too. Also are you forgetting many pro life members are in fact women?
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  234. Traitor
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  235.  @adam1984-p9j  that isn’t a compliment
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  236.  @adam1984-p9j  🤦‍♂️
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  237. Nope. Not even a little
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  238.  @granitebeast  So u would rather it become a puppet to Russia? Also corruption never justifies an invasion with Russia targeting civilians.
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  239. Then explain why we are winning here and now? 😂
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  240. Omg are you actually schizophrenic?
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  241. You ain’t making any sense at all. No one said that males aren’t partly responsible. However at the end of the day, whether or not she takes the risk of sex is ultimately just as much on her. Both need to take responsibility, and both cannot murder their child.
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  242. Shut up u bot
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  243. Bullet Anarchy so what?
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  244. Bullet Anarchy what bad science and false logic? Feel free to tell me what I’m missing.
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  245. Bullet Anarchy what are they wrong about?
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  246. You can literally buy a condom for $3, give me a break
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  247. Their disputes very quickly become our disputes. Clearly people haven’t learned from WW2 on where appeasement gets u
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  248. Right like Putin would have any chance in taking on the USA and the entire Western Europe. 😂
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  249. Maybe he is, maybe he is not. Your point?
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  250.  @glamourinc  um it’s not a really relevant comment if you didn’t hold some point behind it.
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  251.  Bullet Anarchy  objectively false.
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  252.  Bullet Anarchy  elaborate
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  253.  Bullet Anarchy  allowing ears to be pierced doesn’t mean the ears aren’t valuable. Also this isn’t even a good example as we are talking about a separate human being
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  254. Not even close
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  255.  @mariawalsh8763  Hahahaha. So you equite defending the life of all babies both before and after birth with literal terrorists.
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  256. What evidence do you have to suggest climate change would kill us?
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  257. which is why rapists need to be castrated or killed. Not have punishment directed at the baby. We are all a "clump of cells" Such an outdated term.
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  258. That kidd because it’s doesn’t change what ur killing. We are still clump of cells
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  259. That kidd a newborn baby doesn’t know it’s existence either. Also scientists have concluded instances where the fetus can feel pain as early as 8 weeks. So that’s not really a point.
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  260. That kidd no i didn’t. No I’m asking r u saying a woman can’t have it after 8 weeks.
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  261. That kidd that’s actually incorrect brain activity begins by the sixth week in many cases. And it’s like I said before pain does not constitute livelihood
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  262. That kidd conception constitutes it. Because everything else is a development that comes after that point. It’s when a new dna strand and genetic code is formed. It’s when they begin full development.
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  263. Right so we should legalize theft again because if we don’t there will be unsafe theft
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  264.  @michaelreidperry3256  Not an answer
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  265.  @michaelreidperry3256  That’s a lot of assumptions based on things you really don’t know
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  266.  @michaelreidperry3256  It really isn’t. The point in case you couldn’t tell is you could apply that logic on just about anything with “If we illegalize it, it only gets rid of the safe versions.”
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  267. Nice straw man.
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  268. Maren Er CJOTE really how to so?
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  269.  Katya Leblanc  how much you have wrong my friend. Also literally the president of Ukraine is Jewish. 🤦‍♂️
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  270.  Katya Leblanc  Bud the whole point of Nazism as an ideology is anti Jewish. Also do you have evidence to support your claims about Ukraine?
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  271.  Katya Leblanc  German Nazism? Bud, hate to break it to you. Hitler and Germany created Nazism. Nazism that isn't anti semitic is not real Nazism and would of been treated with disgust by the third reich. You are confusing Nazism with Ultra Nationalism.
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  272.  Katya Leblanc  I never said other people can’t be Nazis. I’m saying part of the Nazi ideology is inherently anti Semitic and was the leading cause for the ideology to be created. No, Nazism isn’t ultra nationalism. Ultra nationalism is a characteristic of Nazism. But not all or even most ultra nationalists are Nazis. Also I didn’t abandon anything. Nor did I admit to anything. You can carry on without being an arrogant prick. Don’t put words in other’s mouths. But I’m not going to make rebuttals to after reading the evidence you claimed to send.
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  273.  Katya Leblanc  I am aware of what you sent and I am yet to look into them.
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  274.  Katya Leblanc  And again the whole point of Nazism is Anti Sematism so no, realistically a Jew cannot be a Nazi. Not without them also being a self annihilate
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  275.  Katya Leblanc  it’s not Jewish propaganda it is basic history. If you bother to read any of the National Socialist literature that it existed it was inherently anti Semitic. That is a fact.
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  276.  Katya Leblanc  Actually National Socialist literature wasn’t anti Asian as Hitler actually held admiration for the Asians and considered both the Chinese and Japanese honorary Aryans. However you are correct that it was anti Slavic typically. However as mentioned, none of these were as blatant as it being against Jews
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  277. Um no
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  278.  @lastone8896  u really think the US would do nothing?
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  279. Not even close. I’m done letting Biden destroy this country
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  280. Doubtful, and even if they did then what? They enter a war against US, South Korea, Japan, and India.
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  281. Dan Norton which is the fucking problem. U know perhaps u should explain why a zygote should not have the same rights as any other given human being if u think ur so smart. So go on.
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  282. There is no accepting a new boundary. Russia is just as capable of pulling out and starting peace negotiations
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  283.  @derekcarter3470  what backyard is that? NATO wasn’t being hostile to Russia. And it is part of Ukraine’s right as a nation to choose whatever alliance it wants
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  284.  @derekcarter3470  and they have far from lost. As far as I have seen Putin is the one resorting to more desperate options
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  285.  @derekcarter3470  except there wasn’t any such treaty. 2. Cuban middle crisis is not a proper equivalent since we only resorted to military action after the alliance formed and Russia were sending nukes there. 3. No one is saying the US hands are clean either. If the US were the ones doing it I would be just as quick to condemn them.
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  286. More lies from Russian propaganda.
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  287. You are trying very hard to rely on a false equivalence
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  288. LOL, when did the Taliban outlaw abortion? Also what is that logic? So does outlawing smoking in public areas make the US aligned with Hitler?
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  289. Except it didn’t belong to China. Taiwan has been recognized as an independent nation. In fact until the 50s it was the rightful Chinese government. The US made an alliance with Taiwan. So it’s very much in our right to defend it
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  290. False equivalence
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  291. Since when did NATO start this was. I don’t recall tanks invading Russia’s border.
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  292. Not allowing for murder isn't a religious stance bud. Not unless you want to legalize theft as well since one of the 10 commandments stated, "Thou shall not steal."
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  293. Not according to the UN it ain’t. Technically China belongs to Taiwan not the other way around
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  294. How can you say something so controversial yet so right?
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  295. Are you capable of being honest for two minutes of your life?
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  296.  @Bane_of_the_Moonsea  so let me get this straight. Your argument is you believe every pro lifer is a Fascist then by your logic. I don’t think I need to get into how ridiculous of an assertion that is
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  297. You can’t disprove God’s existence and there have been historical sources in history to indicate that many of the people involved in said religioun did in fact exist.
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  298. Also Religion is not the reason for opposing abortion
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  299.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  ok and why is a fetus not a human being?
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  300.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  a caterpillar is the same species in a different stage of development
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  301.  @whathappened2us473  I’m not obliged to answer that question is it’s not relevant to the topic in question. And I will not have it lead to you personally attacking me based on religious belief
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  302.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  hardly. Whether or not you choose to believe god is your own choice but to equate a pre born child who is already a human being scientifically speaking to a finger nail shows that you are being disingenuous
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  303.  @whathappened2us473  I mean I’m obliged to pay my taxes if you want to go technical lol
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  304.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  stating things as fact? Dude r u seriously denying the scientific difference between a finger nail and an unborn child? 😂
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  305.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  there is no semantics. The literal definition of fetus is an unborn baby. Tell me what semantics that is?
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  306.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  also no they really don’t. No human being has ever had total body autonomy. How do you not get this? Your autonomy does not hold up when it comes to directly harming and especially murdering another human being. A baby no less. Especially when said choice was already made before hand.
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  307.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  Also your line of thinking does not work. Either the Fetus is a human being with rights or it isn’t. The notion of punishment would only go to killing a “wanted” child is extremely hypocritical and elitist.
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  308.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  biologically it is. But here, I’ll play your line of logic. At what point do you classify it as a human being?
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  309.  @caracticusthirdaisi2986  hahahahahah. Do you hear yourself? What word games are played? I asked you a simple question that you keep dodging. If you’re getting this emotional about it then it shows even you have doubts about it. You literally turned yourself into a puppet. And the funny thing is, unlike you. My family did recognize the value of human life. The only ones who should murder are those who are prepared to have the same happen to them
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  310. Dude Zelensky is literally Jewish. 🤦‍♂️ The only fascist here is Putin who believes his will should override the will of the Ukrainian and Russian people alike.
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  311. Your right to life does not equate being provided for by any third party
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  312. Right that’s totally why not a single soldier has invaded Russian territory. Russia had attacked Ukraine, not the other way around.
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  313.  @fortunatocardenas  Ukraine didn’t have a gun pointed at it however. Russia based its actions on the idea that Ukraine may befriend people who do have guns
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  314. R Smith which is why it needs to be outlawed.
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  315. R Smith ok well people would be less likely to risk that if the “safety net” of abortion didn’t exist. Just saying
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  316. 😂 you ever hear yourself?
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  317. If Russia didn’t invade a bunch of nations we would have no need to do so.
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  318. You already did the control of reproducing a new life. Now it’s just preventing you from killing said life. Your right to your body does not equal the right to harm another innocent human being
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  319.  @denniswakabayashi9000  because once upon a time there was no law against a slave driver either. My goodness are you dense. And the primary 2 reasons pro lifers are against prosecuting the woman goes as follows. 1. Given that many women have been so brainwashed to believe that an unborn child isn’t actually a child or human being. There would be an argument that they weren’t entirely sane or had an understanding of what they were doing. As such, prosecuting them would fall in the same slippery slope as prosecuting someone who is proven legally insane. 2. It’s counter initiative to pro life goals. The goal is most pro lifers after abortion would be made illegal is to gradually transition women into understanding the value of her unborn child. The notion is to get her to understand why she shouldn’t, not simply threaten her with potential punishment.
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  320.  @denniswakabayashi9000  I already explained this before. To answer your first question, no I don’t consider women to be stupid just because they got indoctrinated into believing what they are killing isn’t a valid human being this goes without saying. As for your second point, laws to prevent those things would be the next logical stop to be passed. However much like Lincoln’s stance against slavery, If you take the most extreme options straight away then less people will be likely to stand behind it. It’s counter intuitive to the movement
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  321.  @denniswakabayashi9000  And no overturning Roe was the first major victory the pro life movement has acquired in over 30 years and now the work can be done to correct previous mistakes. For now that is through state bans against abortion.
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  322.  @denniswakabayashi9000  As mentioned no progress occurs overnight. You seem to forget there is such a thing as accounting for opposition and having to some times make compromises with them. The fact you can’t grasp this showcases either your lack of intelligence or your blatant dishonesty. Oh and I should mention southern states made the same argument in regards to slavery
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  323.  @denniswakabayashi9000  It really isn't. Both are still rooted in dehumanizing human beings for the sake of one's personal agendas.
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  324.  @denniswakabayashi9000  I grow tired of having to explain this to you. It is counter productive for the pro life movement to push for women to be punished, especially rn. The goal is to convince them not to do it and that doing it is wrong, not threaten them with reprisals.
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  325.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Slavery wasn't abolished overnight either. Actions were done to make gradual abolition. If you cannot grasp that politics does not go from 0 to 100 instantly, then that is on you.
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  326.  @denniswakabayashi9000  I grow tired of explaining this. Try to push punishment on women is counter intuitive for the Pro life goals. For the last 50 years, Roe V Wade was still in state and the short term goal was to get that overturned. Now accept that fact or F off.
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  327.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Clearly you have become blind. I already explained this before, that the goal isn't to punish the women. That to advocate that would be counter productive to the movement. The point is to convince women not to do it, not to threaten reprisals against them. The reason reprisals are being called upon against the doctors is because they are actively trying to profit off the deaths of that child and taking advantage of the woman's desperation.
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  328.  @denniswakabayashi9000  The Democrats said the same thing about slavery during the 1800s. It’s amazing how quickly history repeats itself. Once upon a time the pro slavery ballot won time and time again. Didn’t make it right, nor did it change the simple fact that people change and society changes. 🤦‍♂️
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  329.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Also we aren’t talking about people in other countries as they have no bearing on what the US does here.
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  330.  @denniswakabayashi9000  The south said the same thing about Lincoln. Trying to claim absolutes won’t do you any favors
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  331.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Perhaps not for now, but as mentioned, things change. And the fact Roe V Wade did get overturned is showing that pro life is starting to gain ground.
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  332.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Which can be changed overtime or if a ban is done on a federal level then that too would override the state decision.
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  333.  @denniswakabayashi9000  You are aware plenty of women are also part of the Pro Life movement. So saying they won’t vote “against their interests” is false. Also any mother who actually values the life of their children and all children isn’t voting against their interests by supporting pro life. Also abolishinists faced the same problem when trying to rid slavery. Do some research on history and you’ll see the parallels rather quickly
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  334.  @denniswakabayashi9000  you mean aside from the fact that abortion isn’t the only political issue? The best answer is sentiment hasn’t fully changed yet, which is to be expected when making gradual transitions against it.
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  335.  @denniswakabayashi9000  You seem to fail to grasp that many states have already passed anti abortion laws against doctor assisted abortions. And as mentioned, there is more to a political victory than just won issue. And nope, we aren't. The side advocating the death of unborn children are, and just like slavery will change. The movement is patient, whether it takes us 5 years or 5 decades, we will get it done.
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  336.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Ok, it was also political suicide for Lincoln to claim he would outright ban slavery. Hence why he made an Anti Slavery stance and not an abolitionist stance. And even that led to the south attempting to secede. Does that make Lincoln's choice wrong? In short, no.
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  337. ​ @denniswakabayashi9000  Actually it isn't. There are plenty of states that are preventing drug based abortions. Texas places restrictions against it, Arkansas, and most heavy restricted states require in person pick ups, "Medication abortion must be provided in person because state bans the use of telehealth or mailing pills or requires in-person visit"
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  338.  @denniswakabayashi9000  And once when red states do completely tighten their policies within the red states, that will be pushed into the blue states as well.
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  339.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Already debunked this. It’s clear at this point we are just going around in circles so I’ll leave it to time to decide which one of us will be right
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  340.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Nope. But you feel free to keep trying. Once again the south made the same argument in regards to slavery. Now quit being a bot and echoing the same words
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  341.  @denniswakabayashi9000  doubtful
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  342.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Once again I’m not going to debate with someone who just keeps repeating the same stuff. You’ve become a bot at this point
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  343.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Get tired of reading off a script? At least try to be original or stop wasting my time
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  344.  @denniswakabayashi9000  I already explained before, there is more than one platform in relation to a political candidate.
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  345.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Ok you are aware this isn’t the first time politicians leave out more controversial questions. Right?
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  346.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Because as I already explained to you before, going from zero to 100 straight away potentially alienated people. It is better to make gradual transitions where it can slowly be eased into them. Slavery up until the civil war operated with the same agenda
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  347.  @denniswakabayashi9000  it’s not fooling anything. The fact you don’t grasp this is baffling. Just about every politician on both the left and right will avoid saying controversial points of their platform. Biden did the same thing when talking about Vaccine Mandates.
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  348.  @denniswakabayashi9000  For now states are all to decide. And limiting abortion on a federal level is going to be easier to pull off than trying to ban it overnight
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  349.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Slavery was still a contention issue even 70 years after it’s beginning of discussion. Laws related to racism was a topic of issue even over a 150 years later. So I don’t see why you would think this would be any different. Abortion has remained a topic of major debate since the 1970s. And it’s still going to this very day. Also I’m not a prophet. I can’t tell you Precisely how long it would take.
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  350.  @denniswakabayashi9000  which if banned or restricted at a federal level will override said state constitutions
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  351.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Ok Lincoln didn’t call an open banning of slavery during his campaigning either. Again, anyone with a basic concept of politics would understand that what they preach more often than not does not equal what they believe
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  352.  @denniswakabayashi9000  ok and as I mentioned slavery was once unrestricted to and it gradually had to become more restrictive up until the American Civil War, and even it had its fair of set backs. The fugitive slave laws of 1850 being an example. The only reason you are not grasping the point of the comparison is because you are relying on hindsight logic. Yes we know now that slavery got outlawed but for those leading up until 1865 that was not a certainty.
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  353.  @denniswakabayashi9000  And if you’re not grasping my points made, that’s on you. You’re not even pretending to argue in good faith instead devolving to the tactics of a troll.
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  354.  @denniswakabayashi9000  that’s where the fight is made for now. But what do you think would happen in a hypothetical where doctor assisted abortion would be made illegal. Do you really think the movement would just stop there? Or do you think it would shift just like every movement does?
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  355.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Because we aren’t stupid. Pushing any reprisals on women who do abortions especially rn would only backfire on the movement as a whole. Again basic political strategy. I mentioned this before and I get tired of repeating myself. TRYING TO CRIMINALIZE WOMEN SEEKING ABORTION RN WOULD BE COUNTER PRODUCTIVE TO THE PRO LIFE GOALS!!!!!
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  356.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Ok there weren’t laws against those who enslaved people either. Research history before commenting
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  357.  @denniswakabayashi9000  Look, I’m not going in circles. You think what you want. I really don’t care. It’s clear I’m not going to change your mind no matter what
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  358.  @denniswakabayashi9000  I already said I’m done debating this with you
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  359.  @denniswakabayashi9000  I already said I’m done. It’s clear I’m not going to change your mind and you’re not going to change mine either. So I’m leaving things here. Please respect that
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  360.  @denniswakabayashi9000  what part of I’m done do you not understand? I’m not going to continue going around in circles with you. It’s clear neither of us are going to agree, I’d rather leave things at that. Now for the last time, leave me alone.
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  361.  @denniswakabayashi9000  I don't want to deal with your berating either. I already explained my points, clearly they did not convince you and that is fine. But I am not dancing circles with someone who is effectively being a troll at this point. Last warning, leave me alone or you are getting reported.
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  362. The US is a bigger fire
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  363. Nice try at a strawman.
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  364. It’s amazing how much you said was wrong
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  365. Ukraine is not part of NATO. So IDK your point here.
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  366. FiveNights Fan stage of development doesn’t change what the being is
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  367. They aren’t favoring the unborn over a mother. They are upholding both their right to life equally. Also under what century can you honestly say women has less rights at this point?
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  368.  @blackraspberry4051  again, a separate human being. We are all cells.
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  369.  @blackraspberry4051 also I will ask a simple question for u. Are u against abortion in cases outside of rape and incest?
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  370.  @blackraspberry4051  except it isn’t their body. Size is not relevant to this. As if we went by size, that is a completely arbitrary line to draw
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  371.  @blackraspberry4051  murder isn’t a choice
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  372. Um says who?
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  373. What history is that?
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  374.  @_the_watcher_2089  Though I will agree that the testing nukes has its own share of issues, I don’t think u can even say that is comparable to using them in an invasion Russia started. Also the United States using nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki even ignoring the amount of time since then was done under a vastly different set of circumstances. 1. Japan attacked the United States, not the other way around. The United States was operating in a defensive war and not a war of aggression. 2. By the time the nukes were used, the United States was already fighting Japan conventually for almost 4 years. During that time, the US tried to get Japan to surrender time and time again, something they refused to do. 3. The only viable alternative would of been an invasion of the Japanese mainland. However such an invasion was estimated to result in over a million US Casualties and cause the near population cleanse of the Japanese due to them drafting nearly everyone. Also to note that if the US invaded the mainland, Japanese soldiers were ordered to execute all POWs. So that would of added to the blood. So we are talking a range of 5 to 20 million causalities compared to the nukes which only ranged in the 100 of thousands. Still regrettable but saved far more lives than what the alternative would have done. 4. The US did everything in its power to keep the nukes at exclusively military targets and tried giving civilians time and opportunity to leave before dropping them. Including dropping paper flyers of warnings of the bomb. Now of course, sadly civilians got caught in the crossfire, but almost every measure was taken to reduce the deaths. In fact if u wish to go technical, firebombings killed more Japanese than the nukes did.
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  375. What? 😂
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  376. What are you on about?
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  377. Nice attempt as gaslighting. Real professional of you. At least Trump didn’t have damentia
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  378. LOL, you don't have a right to murder your child.
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  379.  @2Bjaded1  what? 😂
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  380. When Russia withdraws, peace talks will be more than fine to open
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  381. Because they are. Whether you like them or not is irrelevant to this discussion
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  382. Nice attempt at straw man.
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  383. True enough
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  384. Exactly
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  385.  @g.d.graham2446  abortion is murder by definition. Premeditated killing of another human being is murder. Also yes it is the same by pro choice logic. When their logic is that the government shouldn’t control what you do with your “body”, then all aspects would be held accountable for that. They should be the first to respect people’s decision not to take the vaccine. After all, “my body, my choice.” And of course you try to ignore that claiming it can be deadly, while ignoring abortion is always deadly on the child.
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  386. Many pro lifers are willing to provide help for said children. Also you cannot condone murder on the grounds on their life may be hard. And when it comes to preventing murder, yes that morality will be enforced because if we condone the killing of one innocent human being why shouldn’t it be the same for all? It’s not like the Democrats haven’t already pondered that question when some seriously advocated for abortion all the way to and sometimes even shortly after birth.
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  387. Foster homes are available, nowhere is abortion a constitutional right, and thirdly, much like I would not consider slavery a right, I would not consider murdering the unborn a right either.
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  388. Irrelevant
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  389. Do you forget that even the founding fathers were Christian’s. Like it or not, our country was always founded on religious principles. Also to note that opposition to abortion is not a religion issue but one of morality in general. Most pro life individuals don’t even bother mentioning religion and aren’t doing it for religious reasons
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  390.  @RudieObias  I never said it was in the constitution. Though the principles written by the founding fathers sure as hell implies it. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.” Or “I swear that the evidence that I shall give shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God”
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  391.  @RudieObias  and Abortion ain’t health care buddy.
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  392.  @RudieObias  so was experimenting on Jews. So was Eugenics, something performed by a doctor doesn’t automatically make it health care bud
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  393.  @RudieObias  Also are you really going to play ignorant based on the founding fathers and how most were Christian or Catholic? Also Jews also believe God. 🤦‍♂️
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  394. According to who? Murder isn’t a choice
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