Comments by "King Orange" (@kingorange7739) on "Big Think" channel.

  1. Michael 마익흘 Aronson specifically now but you realize that when a mother is raising her child she has to keep it fed and nurtured. If breast-feeding is the only way for a mother to feed her child then by technicality she does have to use her own body to feed her child or she will face at best child neglect.
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  2. Michael 마익흘 Aronson sources have confirmed that taxpayers do actually pay for abortion. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2015/10/02/are-american-taxpayers-paying-for-abortion/amp/
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  3. Michael 마익흘 Aronson they do. Seatbelt laws, drinking age, smoking age, forced to wear cloths in public, can’t do prostitution, can’t have sex with a minor without being declared statutory rape. Those actually by technicality control a woman’s body far more than simply not allowing to kill her fetus which her body is already naturally caring for.
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  4.  @MichaelAronson  It is not her body.
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  5.  @MichaelAronson  She has a right to her own body but not to murder the body in her. That is still a separate body and a separate life.
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  6. Michael 마익흘 Aronson if I was the one that caused you to be dying then yes technically speaking I would be responsible for you living
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  7. Tightt Af Because the Rights to your own body does not extend to infringing on the lives of others
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  8. Michael 마익흘 Aronson also just because it’s legal doesn’t make it OK slavery was legal out a time yet most people nowadays would see that Morley abhorrent just because something is legal does not make it morally right
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  9. Michael 마익흘 Aronson ok by that logic was slavery ok? Also the concept of objective morality decides. Murder being evil is an example of that.
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  10. Michael 마익흘 Aronson because it involves the murder of a human baby
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  11. Michael 마익흘 Aronson have you ever even looked up the definition of objective morality? Again the form of objective morality has been forged over time with human progression. And that there are basic fundamentals that should be followed in order for society to live one such thing is that murder should never be committed
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  12. Michael 마익흘 Aronson again if you’re trying to use an argument I’ll saying there’s no sense of any objective morality that you would be advocating the idea that slavery and the holocaust were completely justified and that there was nothing wrong with it
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  13. Michael 마익흘 Aronson do you realize that objective morality has been formed over the course of society itself based on the common see if the west given that that’s what we’re mainly discussing here high I don’t think it really requires rocket scientist to know that murder is evil OK if you’re going to tell me otherwise then please kindly rationalize to me how it’s not evil go ahead
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  14.  @MichaelAronson  French Revolution, enlightenment, American constitution. Crimes against humanity. These were all context and examples that lead to objective morality.
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  15.  @MichaelAronson  Again I don't understand why u r arguing with me on whether or not murder is wrong.
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  16. Michael 마익흘 Aronson I fell asleep. Are you trying to argue with me that murdering another human being is not objectively wrong? This argument is going nowhere you either think murder is wrong or you think murder is OK just stayed it
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  17. Michael 마익흘 Aronson The matter is consistency. Most cultures and societies have created the viewpoint of murder no longer being acceptable. These cultures were created after a lot of the innovations that I discussed earlier. These things nowadays make up objective morality due to the advancement in mindset. The problem with saying that murder in every other case is wrong but the murder of a human baby is OK is that it’s inconsistent. It draws an artificial line at what point murder is OK and what it isn’t. Unless you were to say that murder in every case is not OK then you are drawing a fake line that can be altered and usually does get altered. It is the same methods that gave the Nazis justification in their minds to kill the Jews.
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  18. Michael 마익흘 Aronson Doesn’t mean it always should be. Also yes viewpoint is what made those laws happen because you’re right without those laws society would be fundamentally broken and there are many rationale is for the death penalty versus an abortion.
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  19. Michael 마익흘 Aronson also like I said the car is well checked and morality doesn’t always exist it’s not it’s forced overtime yes back in the day people there were some that thought slavery were OK. But by time you get to the 1860s most people knew better and ultimately that’s what the whole Civil War was about. Again I don’t know how this correlates with your argument for abortion I really don’t
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  20. Michael 마익흘 Aronson how do I not know English?
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  21. Michael 마익흘 Aronson yes if you want to break it down to technicals all sense of morality is subjective but there are somethings agreed-upon by so many people throughout so many generations that they can be viewed as objective because without them society as a whole with fundamentally collapse. Theft and murder are said objective morality is that people have agreed.
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  22. Michael 마익흘 Aronson but again you can either advocate that there is some objective grounds to morality or there is no such thing as morality and then u should ask ur self why there rules in the first place.
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  23. Michael 마익흘 Aronson if all 20 people agreed on a certain thing that would intern make it objective if you look at it philosophically. Objectivity is universal. Meaning unless it’s downright contradicting something scientific if 20 people only existed on the planet and all of them agreed on a certain thing that would intern make it objective.
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  24. Michael 마익흘 Aronson and I don’t understand how this pertains back to your argument on abortion. I stated that abortion is murder and have since had zero counters to that statement. If you’re going to advocate to me and acknowledge that it is murder and you’re OK with it then I will rest my case. Because if you do admit to that then there’s no point in continuing this argument since it will go nowhere.
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  25. Michael 마익흘 Aronson I said unless it contradicted science. Read my statements completely before responding to them. Also I take u haven’t heard of the golden rule either then.
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  26. Michael 마익흘 Aronson again it would be objective within the world if there is no one to challenge that statement. It’s an evil way to look at objective morality but it holds truth. Why do u think tyrannical regimes get rid of opposition? Not because they don’t like them but because they don’t want anyone or anything to challenge their view. They want to make their views objective.
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  27. Michael 마익흘 Aronson also again pertain why this relates to ur abortion argument. Otherwise I am just wasting my time. If there is no such thing as objective morality and everything including murder is only subjective. Then don’t complain if u die or lose a loved one. Because by ur logic there is nothing wrong with it.
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  28. Enlightened first of all. The argument is a falsehood. She did consent to it from the moment she chose the risk to conceive that child. (With the exception of rape) that woman chose to have sex which resulted in that baby. Now u don’t get to murder that baby just because u changed ur mind.
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  29. Michael 마익흘 Aronson wow I find it funny that ur the one who results to insults when I’m the one trying to be respectful on this matter. Goes to show u I guess how much the left truly cares for people. Anyways I’m done. Instead of actually putting a decent argument on the table u have been making me play mental gymnastics to simply explain why murder is wrong. Go ahead and believe in what u want to believe it’s clear that finding common ground with u is pretty much impossible. Also word of advice, blindly insulting people and saying their stupid just because they don’t agree with u isn’t really a good way to change their minds. Might want to look into that.
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  30. Michael 마익흘 Aronson really you wanna know English? You realize fetus is literally Latin for baby or small child within its technical term. Fetus is just a stage of development for a human being nothing more nothing less. How about you learn that you dummy. Also unless you’re going to present a different case other than the fact that it’s legal right now then I’d recommend going. I don’t care if it’s legal right now that doesn’t change the fact that from my view and the few of all pro life members that it’s morally wrong to murder that said fetus. I’ll see you clearlymester abortions that end up living they literally put them on a table and have them suffocate with no help in the slightest with them screaming only to end up dying due to a lack of help.
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  31. Michael 마익흘 Aronson Latin fētus (“offspring”, “bringing forth”, “hatching of young”). Fool
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  32. Michael 마익흘 Aronson no it ain’t. U r premeditating that killing of said Fetus it is murder. Also stop ur god damn insult and actually talk civil or fuck off. No wonder the left is viewed as crazy to so many people.
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  33. Enlightened there is no legal precedents. But I don’t care about the legal precedents. I wouldn’t be here if it was. Also murder has secondary definition beyond illegal killing. That being the premeditated killing of another human being. Otherwise by that token. The Nazis didn’t murder the Jews.
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  34. Enlightened yes I would advocate that even if contraptions failed that a woman is responsible for seeing that child through till at least they’re born if she wants to give the child up after the fact that she is more than welcome to. Now if it does make you feel better, just as I feel woman is naturally responsible for that child at least stillbirth I would also be able to mail to be financially responsible at least till birth.
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  35.  @EnlightenedByKnowledge  What?
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  36. Michael 마익흘 Aronson actually there is plenty we can do. Like u once said. Things change.
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  37. Michael 마익흘 Aronson any moral level. Unless ur going to say that every law that exists is good then the law by itself does not mean anything within any moral argument.
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  38. Michael 마익흘 Aronson I’m saying u don’t have consistent morals. That they contradict themselves.
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  39. Michael 마익흘 Aronson also when did I say anything about harassing women?
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  40. Michael 마익흘 Aronson really. Who gets to decide that I’m stupid?
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  41. Michael 마익흘 Aronson what gives u the right to decide that?
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  42. Michael 마익흘 Aronson lack of foresight. Most often
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  43. Michael 마익흘 Aronson it’s why I take effort to study people and opinions.
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  44. Michael 마익흘 Aronson ignorance is purposely rejecting info or ideas in hindsight. Lack of foresight is just not knowing in advance.
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  45. Michael 마익흘 Aronson it just means I have difficulty predicting people.
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  46. Michael 마익흘 Aronson dude r u seriously going to go the route of calling me autistic? I already explained this before. Stop using empty insults. And yes I will admit that it more often than not falls under denial by definition. But many people misuse the word ignorant to mean purposely ignoring or disregarding other ideas. But I will give u that u r right about the definition.
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  47. Michael 마익흘 Aronson the only problem with denial though is when it comes to differing opinion, there isn’t an objective right and wrong in those cases.
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  48. Michael 마익흘 Aronson well other than the autism based section, the rest made sense. Thanks for saying something that made sense and overall civil for once. I appreciate it. Have a good night
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  49.  @MichaelAronson  Doesn't justify murder.
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  50. Michael 마익흘 Aronson doesn’t justify the killing of a baby then.
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