Comments by "The Looinrims" (@looinrims) on "How would have WW2 gone if the US had not used nuclear bombs on Japan?" video.

  1. That’s not how genocide works or what it means
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  2. No, Emperor Hirohito gave the order to surrender after nuke number 2, the Russians played no part in the decision to surrender as well explained in Hell to Pay by DM Giangreco, here’s a video interview where it’s discussed around 53 minute mark https://youtu.be/_4uDfg38gyk Where this myth of the Russians causing Japanese surrender comes from I will never know, maybe because one day later the order was given, as if it was just a spur of the moment decision
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  3. Emperor Hirohito said it himself to the war cabinet Read a book, like Hell to Pay by DM giangreco They were in fact not worried about the Russians
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  4.  @jkmcgregor7797  then no war in human history has been justifiable, civilian casualties have and always will happen, sadly Besides, they nuked those cities for their industry, if they wanted to kill people outright, they’d’ve nuked Tokyo
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  5. Hahahahaha Can’t cite a single error, despite it being congruent with Hell to Pay, a very well respected and well researched work
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  6.  @Feargal011  as if you’ve read one, but his book is the gold standard, with evidence from the war cabinet and imperial dispatches Appeal to authority harder but cite nothing
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  7. No it wasn’t
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  8. …is that why they chose to not undertake a plan where 10s of millions of people would die?
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  9.  @dannylopez5976  read hell to pay The Japanese didn’t. Care. About. The. Soviets.
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  10. That’s what you got, what did you want? Tactical overviews of battles that didn’t happen?
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  11. Read hell to pay, the navy could not provide a timeline of successful blockade
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  12. Don’t tell that to the crybabies online… they’ll whine about ‘genocide’ that the Americans committed or some ‘international law’ that was ‘violated’ (mysteriously they can’t cite the law) or something
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  13. Naval blockade was rejected because the navy could not provide a time table for it succeeding, and you can’t just keep 5 million men mobilized and deployed for an unknown time Also the UN (not the organization, the alliance) created a study that concluded for every month the war continued, 200,000 Asians would die, speed was required to end the bloodshed
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  14.  @Feargal011  at least I cited a source, that’s an appeal to authority that’s literally citing info You just said ‘muh Japanese’ Also yeah, that’s the situation in Manchuria, not why they ended the war, they’ve been afraid of them intervening for a while…
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  15.  @AlexKarasev  see those quotes are giggle worthy as the Manhattan project was so secret VP Truman didn’t know it existed, assuming you’re not lying (probably are), those men, despite their status, were a bit out of the loop first off on Japanese political and military decision making, hence why they didn’t even assess the Japanese defenses correctly, but on the true scale of the project Good try, better than ‘muh Soviets!’ Also, I’m gonna wager you’re not a historian, and if you discredit an actual peer reviewed historical work (which does include soviet/Russian sources by the way) then I’m discrediting you on the basis of being a random probably teenager
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  16.  @AlexKarasev  you’re still a teenager or you’re just dumb, I’ll let you choose, I’ll stick with the peer reviewed expanded edition published by the USNIP over…you
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  17.  @AlexKarasev  yes and I provided well A the source but B more importantly the fact from the horse’s mouth Why did the emperor give the surrender order? Here’s why from the emperor, it doesn’t matter how cool any US official is or was, they’re not the ones who did it
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  18.  @AlexKarasev  also side note being a notable official doesn’t make you right For example Churchill in his postwar memoirs said the Germans conquered France with 1,000 heavy tanks, this is not correct, at all, in any way, but he said it and was a notable official so he must be right! That’s how you sound right now
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  19. https://youtu.be/f9raqHGJH4Q wrong
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  20.  @gregb6469  that’s not true, the Russians couldn’t invade japan proper only the kurills, by the way US forces had to rescue a botched Russian landing when it failed miserably. Stalin tried to cover that one up real hard.
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  21.  @gregb6469  …because the kurills can barely house a regiment on Kunashir, one of the biggest, whereas Hokkaido had like 5-7 divisions on it
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  22.  @gregb6469  kiddo there’s a reason the US had to send tons of reflagged liberty ships just for Sakhalin and the kurills, and they weren’t nearly enough for any home island I’m wasting my time at this point, I’ll spell it simple: ‘no boats means 1 million divisions are worthless for naval attacks’
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  23. The military wanted to fight on after nuke 2, the hell did you smoke? What kinda neckbeard history is this?
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  24.  @Matt-mt2vi  the lower echelons, the military high command tried to coup him when they heard he intended to surrender “Try actually studying history” says the guy trying to dispute Hell To Pay, one of the most respected books on the subject of invading Japan
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  25.  @Matt-mt2vi  Weird you’re still being contradicted by Hell To Pay…the peer reviewed well sourced and very well respected book Then again it makes sense, youtube commenters and the internet at large have a propensity for talking out of their ass
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  26. This is true, D.M. Giangreco in Hell To Pay cites a study that showed 20-25% of the population would need to die to pacify the country
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  27. Um…are you stupid? Genuine inquiry, every study suggested millions of Japanese casualties, the nuclear bombs did a grand total of 150,000
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  28. Hahahahahahaha What international law was violated by the nuclear bombs? None, because they didn’t exist? Exactly God these muh america bad and muh Soviets need to be institutionalized
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  29. Source for this? Here’s the source for why you’re wrong https://youtu.be/_4uDfg38gyk time code 53:11 to show how little the Japanese gave a fuck
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  30.  @Fbclx  it wasn’t, see my above comment
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  31.  @Fbclx  your first one, it was not about the Soviets at all
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  32. -Morons who don’t know anything beyond their 5th grade text book that summarizes every war with 3 paragraphs
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  33. No, that’s not how nuclear weapons work
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  34. Uh, yeah 150,000 dead is much better than 12-15 million
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  35.  @HyperK7  nope because then it would reveal he’s just talking out of his ass and clinging to his myths that he either made up or heard about
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  36. ACKTUALLY stop
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  37. https://youtu.be/_4uDfg38gyk Hahahahahahahahha Wrong
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  38. Russia was not on japan, and never was Unless you mean Sakhalin
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  39.  @jkmcgregor7797  150,000 dead out of 60 million…isn’t genocide or destruction
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  40.  @KennyNGA  who started the wars? Japan and Russia in 45 and 2014? Right, big ole difference that you conveniently ignore
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  41. Ah the British simp coming in saying ‘we did 5% of it therefore it’s a joint effort!’ I’m sure you say that about 03 war in Iraq too
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  42. https://youtu.be/_4uDfg38gyk No, none of this is true 53:11 begins talking about soviet involvement
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  43.  @nickvanachthoven7252  yeah, that too
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  44.  @AlexKarasev  To quote “The military did not want the surrender, the Japanese military needed an invasion to justify what they were doing, the emperor had to send members of the royal family to various remote Japanese commands to get them to surrender because he couldn’t trust the military to send the order themselves.” And another: “US command and Truman guessed that when the first nuke dropped the Japanese would try to play it off as a one time super powerful weapon, so the plan was to produce and drop them as quickly as possible to demonstrably show that it could be done.” Why don’t you prove what he said wrong instead of trying to discredit him because of his profession you dunce
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  45. Ever heard of logistics? What’s invading Korea gonna do to end the war? US command had the plan to invade Honshu hence why it’s talked about Your fever dream isn’t what people are gonna talk about
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  46. Nuclear weapons didn’t kill as many as the firebombs did Chemical weapons were considered https://youtu.be/DIY1-TYirIw
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