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Problem with the idea of German air deployment, as opposed to the US boner for air deployment is similar to the Cold War, it’s expected that the Russians will begin the conflict with some level of surprise and because of that the air space probably won’t be viable where you want to land everyone, especially as ‘a second echelon’ force, there won’t be anywhere in the Baltics, in eastern Poland to land anyone.
The Americans are air deployable boner boys because A they’re across one of two bloody oceans and B they get to enjoy available ‘rear areas’ (Japan, France, Benelux, Germany) to deploy their forces to trouble zones (Russia, Taiwan, Korea) while the main front line contributions, the USAF/Carriers, can operate on their own even from rear areas or further
So it makes little sense for the Germans to go air deployable for everything, they’re probably going to adopt, of all things, the French doctrine from the Cold War, where they need to cross rivers and lots of territory to reinforce the line of contact, this time the actors are different with Poland/the Baltics being the border regions and Germany being the main base to reinforce them
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@ezzie3927 take one look at his Patreon, 1,477 patrons at time of writing with options of 1, 5, or 10 USD a month, if you average out to 5 per patron, which isn’t clear cut but it’s the best we can do in lieu of official numbers you get $7,385 a month from just Patreon, just Patreon, no ad revenue from YouTube is included in that, no weird backroom agreements that youtubers do get by the way, according to GradeAUnderA approximately 100,000 views is worth $100 in ad revenue, apparently, so add that math into his video catalog and then divide by 12 for average per month, which isn’t correct since video views explode and then taper off fast
But even still with just Patreon his income is $88,620 a year, 30,000 more than the gdp per capita of the country (assuming he still lives in Sweden)
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Looking at the wars of the 21st century, something I’ve noticed, and this opinion is worth what you pay for, the worlds reaction to wars are based on how disruptive the war is to the status quo of economics, moral protests always happen, but war in Georgia didn’t see the response war in ukraine did 2022, and war in ukraine 2014 didn’t see as much as 2022, invasion of Taiwan would annihilate the economic status quo of Taiwan (duh), China (duh), Japan, RoK, Australia, and USA just to begin the top boys
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For those unaware, the military culture memes the shit out of the branches, for the Air Force, theyre corporate nerds who can’t stand being in 4.9 star hotels, this has always baffled me since the USAF is responsible for a lot of the important stuff in the United States military, NORAD is a good example, Area 51 (more accurately administered by Edwards Air Force Base), I’ve always wondered if they were partially responsible for that meme about them being pencil pushers
The navy has a similar joke, and has similar importance, again, I wonder
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Did anyone tell the Russians the main air deployed nuclear bomb for F16, Tornado IDS or F35 is the B61 bomb? It’s not a missile, Russian GBAD would bend a F16 over before it got over the threshold of ‘not blowing up friendly troops’ radius of kaboom
48 F-16s all flying together with B61s would be…improbable in mission success planning, and as far as I’ve seen that’s the most Ukraine is getting and they won’t have all 48 mission capable at the same time, it’s just not how it works
Russia is big mad/big scared, and rattles the big radioactive Sabre about it, they said this about the retreat from Kyiv, javelin supply, himars supply, GMLRS supply, main battle tanks, air/missile defense, cruise missiles, the list goes on and on
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Strategic bombing targets strategic assets, resource production, refining, factories, production, infrastructure
Tactical bombings target tactical assets, forward outposts, enemy frontline forces, armor, supply depots
Strategic bombing targets nations, tactical bombings target armies, if you would
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Modern History is mostly proof of the evils of socialism, communism, and the nations they infected, Germany, Russia, China, I mean the Korean War was an attack by the North Koreans first, the Vietnam war lasted more than 5 minutes only because of communist China, the Middle East has always been a hotbed of conflict because of racial tensions, and are we forgetting the Soviets who first destroyed the region? Yes we are, because that fights the narrative, we can’t allow the truth to hurt the narrative
Don’t worry America big bad to sell weapons...even though the Germans sell more tanks than the Americans since the Abrams isn’t suited for many nations compared to the Leopard, holy fuck the more I think about this the dumber it gets
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A retreat in order is successful
Vehicles break, its war, this floor is made of floor
Leningrad restored to fucking cannibalism, also nebelwerfer existed, and drones do little different to historical rocket artillery or aircraft contrary to media buzz
Okay, and?
They’ve attempted to replace the idiots with more professional soldiers, so this is backwards
60,000 troops haven’t been lost by Russia, the airborne corps is larger than a regiment
They’ve captured thousands of Km of territory considering the frontage, despite retreating from certain sectors for the seemingly obvious intent of focusing harder on other parts
Who asked? What does this even mean?
True enough, 1991 as well
Maybe so, time will tell
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@duckygaming3536 who killed them all?
The USN, not the RN, just like the IJA, the Chinese and Americans killed them, not the British, just because they had a few engagements doesn’t mean they’re responsible for it, they get a teensy bit of credit for everyone they killed, but as an actual branch of the military, they were both destroyed by America, and for the army, China
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Then it’s backfired horrendously, they’re using weapons within a week of manufacture to do it, they’ve lost a 40%? Of their pre war active tank fleet *confirmed*, god knows the unknown losses, 10% of their fast jet fleet, a stupid amount of their drones, 15% of their IFVs? Sorta?
Like, this is one helluva price to pay for…mostly destroying old soviet equipment in Ukraine, Most Ukrainian losses remain eastern sourced equipment, and it’s not like German, French, Romanian, polish, Baltic, etc armed forces would be fight China, even if they were (somehow) it wouldn’t be with ground forces
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@swedenneutral7892 ok
I do, and I do it without bias, unlike you
Got our ass kicked in Vietnam, not by the Vietnamese, it was the Chinese, that’s why Vietnam got to live, because we couldn’t roll over them like we did in Korea where it took all of China to hold us back
Afghanistan? No, you need to look up basic Wikipedia if you call Afghanistan getting your ass kicked
And finally yes, of course, your friend, what a reliable source that isn’t at all fabricated, anecdote, next
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That sounds like a massive give me example thing
If it’s a plan versus a plan, then the quality of the plan is separate from the results, I point to Plan D and Plan R4 from the British and French in 1940, D was the mad dash into Belgium to dig in on the Dyle line against the Germans, and R4 was a plan to occupy Norway’s ports if the Germans were going to make a move on them
The plans, I would argue, were both excellent, but the responses/execution were bungled, the flank security if you would of the Dyle line was inadequate as shown, and R4 was abandoned under the impression the Germans (Task Force 1) was attempting an Atlantic breakout
On the other side a wonderful plan that worked wonderfully was whatever it was called (if it had a name explicitly) in the opening of the Barbarossa, was in the Ukraine, where the soviets assumed a spearhead was pushing towards Kiev, but sticking to the plan the spearhead swung south performing a massive encirclement of soviet armies
For more direct action, like what Savo wouldve been for the officers, it’s more their tactical responses to developing situations, a good example would be the fight between Norwegian militia and German Falshcimajager in Midstkorgen, where a 100 or so civilians and raw recruits threw the Germans back to secure the king, neither side planned to do that, but it is what happened and more credit should be given to the leadership
If it’s some combination plan+tactics you could look at Mansteins plan to invade the Ardennes, and combo that with Erwin Rommel or Heinz Guderian’s uh “miscommunications” to “accidentally” seize bridgeheads and strongpoints making the only delay to German movement that of “how fast can we move” (inB4 Panzer Elite)
Bleh I made this essay for no reason
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Sources, Binkov uses the IMSS or national MODs
Ukraine doesn’t have superior tech to Russia, that’s nonsense, their equipment is Russian equipment, Russia makes the upgrades first, absolutely moronic statement, only validity is ‘Ukraine tech is superior to deployed Russian tech’ which still isn’t true
Losses happen, but there’s a reason the VKS is still flying and not grounded from the threat of SAMs, see the Ukrainian Air Force for results of that predicament
The numbers are better than anything you have, but nothing you say here disproves or even contradicts what Binkov said
See above
Maybe true but pointless to speculate, however the massive gains in the south disprove this notion pretty soundly
2/10 needs citations and logic
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saint lol cheaper? Lol
I’ve seen the budget build videos but even as a tech student I can’t find the deals they must find, and even then many fail to run GTA V per se at above 40 FPS on medium to low settings, whereas the current consoles, One and PS4 (the standard versions) are sub 300 (I do admit launch prices are ridiculous, and at launch prices PC does win) and are very hard to beat with builds
PC building market is also more unpredictable than our president, whereas the console prices are rather consistent, and only go down, currently building a pc is retarded because of some mining craze, which hasn’t affected the consoles, also controllers are just nicer to use than mouse and keyboard and sitting up straight sucks ass for many people myself included and I’ve never gotten any wrist problems playing on a controller but I can’t say the same for keyboard and mouse, and yes you can plug in controllers but all you PC master race fanboys always tout the ‘superior accuracy of the mouse’ (which is true) so doing that just hurts your side
TLDR consoles are objectively cheaper than PCs and controllers are nicer to play with, ffs just let people play what they like to play with instead of being an elitist bastard.
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Problem with the idea of German air deployment, as opposed to the US boner for air deployment is similar to the Cold War, it’s expected that the Russians will begin the conflict with some level of surprise and because of that the air space probably won’t be viable where you want to land everyone, especially as ‘a second echelon’ force, there won’t be anywhere in the Baltics, in eastern Poland to land anyone.
The Americans are air deployable boner boys because A they’re across one of two bloody oceans and B they get to enjoy available ‘rear areas’ to deploy their forces, while the main front line contributions, the USAF/Carriers, can operate on their own even from rear areas or further
So it makes little sense for the Germans to go air deployable for everything, they’re probably going to adopt, of all things, the French doctrine from the Cold War, where they need to cross rivers and lots of territory to reinforce the line of contact, this time the actors are different with Poland/the Baltics being the border regions and Germany being the main base to reinforce them
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Europe can’t support Ukraine on their own (militarily, because of their systemic weakness), it’s America or nothing for Ukraine, we can’t stop, if anything we need to do more and more in one go, if we threw 300-400 abrams, 1000 Bradley’s, 750-1000 amraams and 2 million 155 shells, they could clear the country in 8 months, but there’s no political will to give what’s needed when needed. Everything is in too small quantities, too infrequently.
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@12jazion U…wot
What kinda whataboutism shit is all this? Who said it was okay? Do you have proof that any of it happened first, second we are talking about a place like Afghanistan where insurgents like to be in buildings civilians live in, as opposed to what we are seeing, next
Unprovoked invasions? Like…what? No seriously, like what? Afghanistan? Who was blatantly housing public enemy number one and wouldn’t surrender him, the guy who attacked us? Iraq 1991, who invaded their neighbor and tried to annex them in violation of international law under the guise of ‘reuniting ethnic groups’ (where did I hear that recently?)? Iraq 2003? Where saddam was committing crimes against humanity by the whole ethnic cleaning with gas (ie chemical weapons ie WMDs)? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Also who are all these nations ‘since the USA was founded’, go on and name them, what? The Barbary states that would enslave our mariners? The Mexicans who…declared war on us?
Of course you just name random nations (side note the USA barely did anything in Libya) that Americans conducted Ops in…but that’s very selective of you, first, considering the whole ‘the USA wasnt the only one in any of those places’ thing, combo that with the fact you conflate a war crime to collateral damage, see George Bush’s “shared responsibility” speech, and yeah, you’re a fucking idiot, talking out of your ass, about things you don’t know a thing about…amazing
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@rikk319 sorry tell me where the USSR, GDR, Madagascar, Cuba, PRC, DPRK, DRC, Vietnam, Poland, Albania, Romania, Bulgaria are/were not authoritarian?
And what capitalist nation is? Capitalism by its nature demands the least possible interference by government to function properly
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@rolletroll2338 no it’s nowhere close to arguable as the best tank, it’s actually not
Even if it is, there’s like 120 in active service and 136 in storage, as we’ve seen with Ukraine the insistence or laziness with standardization has quite literally cost thousands of lives, Europe as a whole needs to either get together on one platform, or just quit fantasizing about when any of them were actually powerful and just use American equipment, that they’d be using anyway if the balloon went up, they don’t have the ability to replace an armored battalion in a month, or even 3, the US could replace the entire European nato militaries with US gear and still have spares in storage
Rafale isn’t great either, it’s a 4th gen plane that’s 20 years late, and has a readiness rate similar or worse than fifth gens
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@Emilechen tell that to the taliban, but is that why both Russia and China have large armed forces on both sides of the border?
Cool, Vietnam is still falling into the US camp
That’s the thing there are no separatist activities in Okinawa or Hawaii because neither of those are de facto sovereign states
Because of Chinese nuclear weapons? That almost didn’t matter in North Korea 2014, but uh, no… nuclear weapons contrary to myth don’t stop wars, see the 1983 war scare for that, inches away from war between Soviets and Americans, but either one then had more nuclear weapons than both today’s America and China combined, it’s not nukes, it’s the basic desire for peace. Peace reigns so long as the CCP wants peace to reign, any conflict that isn’t caused by accident (which would be great if China could be reasonable and negotiate and avoidance of incidents treaty by the way) is caused by the CCP invading Taiwan, see who’s doing the invading part?
And finally, you can’t complain about any other ship going around to their allies areas and then declare that yours should sail to an area for no reason other than provocation then call other guy the bad guy, so hypocritical
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@subvariantstrain let’s make this simple
What’s in every video? “Same starting morale! No interference from other countries! No need to keep troops in other areas! Mobilization!”
What’s happening in Ukraine? Low morale, heavy interference to include significant AWACS and recon support, shit they would not have *at all*, significant weapons inflow, requirement to keep troops in Kaliningrad, Far East, Central Asia, detachments in Syria, Armenia, etc, no mobilization of population or economy, and a general assumption war wouldn’t begin during the muddy season when they start their invasion because duh
Side note, Binkov’s videos always talk about how long it would take ground units to organize and begin combat operations, meanwhile it would seem that Russian commanders were given 24 hours notice that they were moving to serious combat operations, same with the Air Force
So you tell me bucko, based off his videos and reality, tell me how the fuck he doesn’t understand combat when he points out either unaccountable variables or actual important parts of military command
See what happens when you pay attention and don’t talk out of your ass?
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@chrishanson8306 badly trained? Hardly, and are we forgetting the border conflicts with places like India? While Russia does have more combat experience, it’s worth noting this time in history when Japan war gamed Pearl Harbor attack twice and both times was rather unsuccessful with lots of losses
Not so in reality
And uh…again, the Russians have nothing, everything you said is irrelevant anyway, there’s still 10x the number of soldiers, dozens times heavy hardware, 10-1 Airforce presence, closer logistics, a bigger more potent navy, you’re just a Russian shill honestly, the Chinese have the upper hand
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@ed-te1fp fair but that’s like saying the Spanish are biased cuz all they see is Spanish videos, that’s hardly a given just because of language, some people are just morons (see the comment sections of Binkov’s videos as stated earlier) but there are some people that do have their heads screwed on right, and of course there are video makers, like CaspianReport and Binkov’s Battlegrounds, that stick to fact or at least evidence based logic when discussing their topics, no one sane will argue with caspian report stating that, say, Chinese naval expansion is a threat to US interests, or Binkov pointing out that the Russian armed forces are simply incapable of standing up to Chinese might at the present
Now idiots will ‘muh 3 cruise missiles wipes out the entire Chinese navy!” (No seriously a real comment I replied to in the RvC video) or ‘muh taliban!’ Or ‘muh western sjw society!’ But these aren’t even people to take seriously
Just like the original comment in this thread, the Chinese don’t export junk as a given, evidenced by the fact they do the building for things like smartphones
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@MegaBanne not an illusion, it’s the truth, when most of your food, all of your logistics (the most important part of war), 40% of your fuel, a majority of your aviation fuel, and 2/3s your resources for making explosives (pretty important) are coming from the West, then yeah, they wouldn’t stand a chance in hell without the west, that’s why it’s a team effort
Also that whole air campaign siphoning off the resources of the enemy, to quote Prof Neitzel “from 1943-1944 the Germans spent 6% of their resources on tanks, and more than 40% on the aerospace industry, which was mostly to protect the Reich from air attacks, but counterfactual, what would happen if the Germans did not have to spend that much because there was less of an air campaign or no air campaign? Then the Germans could’ve built thousands and thousands of armored vehicles, and perhaps stop the Red Army, or at least significantly delay it”
To put in perspective if the air campaign was halved, right, that means 20% went into aerospace and say the other 20% went into armored vehicle production, or just vehicle production, then they have their divisions more motorized, or they could have quadruple the amount of tanks, and as the old joke goes “my tank is worth 3 of yours” “good thing I brought 5” well that’s not exactly viable at that point, is it?
I don’t understand this nonsensical “oh we did all the work” it’s not true from anyone, except for Japan the Americans did most of the work there, the Chinese did a minority but the second most work
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Ricardo VS lol okay Guderian, any more myths you want to peddle?
‘Test’ tanks that blasted their way through Poland and France, oh by the way as expensively as they could’ve made a tank they did, the Panzer 1 had nickel enriched armor, with fully functional turrets! “You don’t need those for drivers training” -An author I forget, to put the final nail in the coffin of this ridiculous statement, why would the “Training” tank use the MG13ks, and not the MG34s, like every tank after? Surely it would be better to train the crew with the expected machine gun, but no, the Panzer 1 had 13ks, because they were super reliable compared to the 34, which made them good in the machine gun only tank for......combat
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Henrey bradley no, you didn’t, you wrote an article that has just a couple blatant problems but the biggest is that it’s an alternate history scenario, I’m talking about the actual war, where the US fed both Russia and Britain’s people when the Germans came knocking in their respective attacks
Also to destroy the foundation of it the BEF escaped regardless, the war cabinet and Royal Navy would not sit idle watching their army get killed
The only thing your article even argues is the only good part of winston Churchill, that his refusal to surrender was the correct decision, and it’s one I agree with, but FDR wanted in on the war as soon as motherfucking possible, and Pearl Harbor was ALWAYS going to happen, because like the others, the US was Japan’s lifeline, and when they froze their assets and cut trade, they needed to find a new lifeline, which meant war with the US
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Henrey bradley you fockin wot m8? Yes, precisely, the largest economy on the planet did less to supply the Soviets than the fourth largest when the Soviets were the second largest, yes exactly galaxy brain, but you’re right the 30,000 or so Sherman’s (JUST Sherman’s) that were lend lease just didn’t see action on the eastern front, neither did those M3 Lees, or those American trucks, or American food products (because Britain is known for its food production huh?) or their bullets, or guns, or, there’s no point arguing with a brick wall, who thinks he’s hot shit for writing an alt history article as if it matters
And no I don’t refuse to acknowledge any of that, I never said that, quit strawmanning me please
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@jimiraj no guy, no, he had no artillery, none of his artillery, his AT guns, none of his wounded, could move, and none of the fourth panzer army were in any way combat capable, they had just been mauled to hell and stuck encircled, they obviously had no fuel to work with considering how much was brought in, there was no breakout possible, they would’ve just been killed sooner, strategically it was best for 6th army to die like they did so they could tie down as many soviets as they could to allow Army Group B to escape the Caucasus
Do people forget that Stalingrad wasn’t the point of Fall Blau?
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@Treklosopher not every soldier was a war criminal, 17 million men served, not all 17 million were war criminals, not even most, not even half, how many is probably impossible to say
As much as I agree, the nazis deserved to die old, after decades of torture, not every soldier was a Nazi, not even every party member, as the GDR would show later party membership is simply necessary for career progress
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@dznuts123 oh no a ‘muh USA bad!’ Whataboutism, yikes, that still doesn’t make communists good
Let’s go through it though and destroy it
The U.S. invaded not out of boredom, but I guess that 34 nation coalition, or openly defying to give up the worlds most notorious criminal, is just not acceptable
Yes the Chinese did, what do you think f president trump was on about during the Afghanistan evacuation? Regardless the us stole what from Afghanistan? No seriously, what? Nothing, and no there’s no fucking human trafficking, take your tinfoil hat off and put it back
Yes they did
The communists did too…your point?
They tried to colonize the world…did you not see how the empire conducted itself? Right
“Did China build military bases everywhere” what a stupid statement, “oh no USA! How dare you build military bases in your allied pact nations that they share with you and allow you on? What the fuck is wrong with you!” Idiocy
There was no genocide of native Americans, pretty shit genociders if over 400 tribes are still officially recognized, 90% of natives died from disease because they weren’t immune
The most grievous crimes? The USA doesn’t have 45,000,000 on its death count in total, the Chinese communists have more than that just by famine, but I thought this was an ideology discussion about the ‘villainization of communists’…I guess your narrative doesn’t hold up to what you try to support it with
The freedom fighter is the one who spear headed the whole stop crimes against humanity thing committed in the Middle East and hey, China, no one else is
Pathetic
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The problem with ‘the way to avoid it’ is twofold
A this is a war with more war crimes than most people can reasonably count, Ukraine, reasonably, will not countenance a single ounce of compromise because the criminals are in too deep
B even if the above wasn’t applicable, by negotiating, by comprising, by doing whatever word you want to use, you set the precedent. A dangerous precedent for the world; that it’s okay to begin an unprovoked war of aggression (twice) to someone else, and then threaten to use nuclear weapons until you get your way, this is an untenable position for the world, imagine Iran capturing Basra, invading Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc and threatening glass if anyone tries to stop them, just imagine what the Syrians would’ve done if the Israelis didn’t break their reactor
The only positive out of all of this is that even ardent pro Russian nations like China have steadfastly objected to any notion of the employment of nuclear weapons of any kind
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@dampug true evil are people who slaughter civilians by the village load, like the Soviet Union in Afghanistan or Russia in Ukraine
True evil is kidnapping people to put them in concentration camps, or to move one ethnic group somewhere to out populate and eventually eradicate a native genetic line, like the Nazis, Russians, and Chinese and to a lesser extent the Turks
True evil is the violation of human rights and standards agreed upon at Geneva and the UN, again as China and Russia have been notorious for a 70 years and over a century, respectively
Oh wait, muh corporatism! Muh lobbyists!
Imagine calling lobbyists evil, someone is 5 years old, don’t worry you’ll learn, hell maybe you’ll get to see it personally when you get drafted for the war with China, and then you’ll change your tune
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I pine for a game that is a 5 player coop in a Panzer 3 where the roles are way more in depth, like the driver has to go through all the motions while fulfilling his responsibilities, the loader maintaining the ready rack, properly assessing the correct ammo for the correct target, etc, and try to show the whole being more than the sum of its parts, where success is determined by cooperation and unity
could have the crewman be various characters that are exemplary of various German mindsets at the time, perhaps a hardcore Nazi, a Nazi critic, a commander who doesn’t give a fuck and is only there to win for Germany, a veteran of the Great War who just wanted vengeance on old enemies, and a young impressionable kid
Maybe as the game progresses they can be upgraded to the Panzer 4 and maybe further, maybe they’re apart of general Heinz Guderian’s Panzer corps, seeing and showing players firsthand the challenges and differences of the eastern and western fronts
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@finnl6887 do you do anything besides lie? Genuine question, I didn’t say anything of the sort, you did, I said the Cubans on the ground, didn’t see Americans when guys came on their shores
But I guess if you’re a pathological liar then sure, damn, I was defeated by your lack of logic and anecdotal/irrelevant information, you got me
Also ‘we both know it’ if you ever say this it just proves you’re insecure about what you say as you preemptively try to make it sound like something is an established fact, when it’s not, and of course ‘I will respond if I need a fool for entertainment’, the Hillary Clinton approach or ‘look everyone! I’m laughing and belittling my opponent, everything they said is now worthless!’, yikes
wait till high school debate class and then come back, you’ll be able to get a little bit further
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@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- No you didnt
In 1940 you cocked up the defense of Norway, you watched idly as Poland was eaten, you got reamed in France and only survived because the OKW had a dick measuring contest, you got kicked all the way out of Tunisia into Egypt by Rommel, and you got rekt by paratroopers while on an island, you lost the south East Asian colonies to the Japanese, did you win anything? No, the answer is no
The British army was as useful as a screen door on a submarine, or uboat in this case
You needed the Americans to do fucall, just like today, you might forget that part where you lost your entire armor force in Dunkirk, don’t worry the Americans got you though, just don’t get it twisted, you were support to the Americans, an excellent island jumping point for France and start point for them to begin actually killing the Germans, you didn’t defeat *Shit*, except for the biggest joke of the war, the kriegsmarine, so congratulations, you killed 10 surface ships and some uboats when the Germans ignored their navy for the most part
Oh and this isn’t about the army so it’s not really fair but I find it funny, you were the worlds largest navy, until 2 years after the Americans decided they were gonna be the largest navy, I find that funny
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@michaelsalmon9832 oh no it’s strawmanning again, and straight up lying (they declared war on Hitler for the whole violating international law bits) again, good grief how do you come up with some of this crap? Considering how most of it, unless it’s propaganda, is just straight up lies
But then it tries the psychological tactic of pretending to know something and to tell me I don’t know about it, but then ends it with “you and I know”…no guy, you don’t know much (if anything)
Also to top it all off: Kashmir doesn’t feature ethnic cleansing and concentration camps, and as a Jew, yeah, I am somewhat offended by seeing what happened 80 years ago happen still, but oops, quit trying this stupid shit where you think you know me
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Pfffhahahahaha
Taiwan literally built itself for the defense against mainland China, it would take 24 hours just to load up and get to the island, let alone fighting for the ability to get there
Regardless, no, the Chinese ‘wind’ wouldn’t just topple the US navy in five seconds, the Chinese navy would die in exchange for some 50-80% of the us navy, probably, and of course the Chinese Air Force would be completely shit canned, meanwhile the world, or at least the west, is now unified against the Chinese regime, economic collapse soon to follow due to sanctions and blockades, who’d be left to trade to that isn’t poor as shit? No one
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Let me crush Logan’s arguments
Ukraine’s security guarantees global food security, the baltics do less for the world, but ‘matter more’ (since we have commitments with them)? That’s completely ludicrous, this argument is ridiculous.
Every treaty we have is defense commitment, we don’t have a treaty with Ukraine yet, if Finland can be in nato (you know, the guys bordering the Russian nuclear silos), Ukraine can be in nato, this argument is a non sequitur
Finally: yeah, same with Norway, same with Taiwan, same with the baltics, same with the Philippines, and?
These arguments are Lily pond level shallow, does this Logan guy think we have no other treaties anywhere?
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A couple of ways
First is the technology capability, tech superiority affects survivability, a SAM system using 2010s tech will be more capable of not just tracking but downing planes than a 2000s or older tech
Another is weaponry, Russian fighter planes on this channel get kneecapped in assessment as they lack modern air to air weapons compared to say US or China, using modern air to air missiles and lots of them
In ground attack, it’s mostly about precision and stand-off capability
For ships, weapon range and defenses are the things to look at, if you can shoot further, the enemy ship is mostly toast
For tanks, ammunition and technology is the name of the game, the leopard 2, T-14, M1 alphabet soup Abrams, ZTZ-99A, etc have strong weapons and great sensors, ammunition, communications, and such.
Age doesn’t matter too much for some things like tanks, but technology gap will sometimes remove half or even most of the chance for a hit, say for a SAM vs a plane
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ironbrew kid not at all, but even during Black Friday or cyber Monday you could not build a Pc with the same specs (sort of, console hardware is proprietary so kind of hard to compare but whatever) as the Xbox One S for $189 (£140?) realistically, only if some idiot sold you these epic parts for $20 (£13?) could you do that, I’m not talking about games or whatever, and part of console online subscriptions are we get free games monthly, on top of deals daily on different games, similar to steam
Steam isn’t the pioneer of sales my guy, and I don’t know what Microsoft you call, but the Microsoft I call has had no problems with me returning anything I’ve purchased through the Xbox Store and fully crediting my account, but whatever maybe we have separate Microsoft’s we call, maybe MSFT on the stock market has an alter ego TFSM
And you may save hundreds of pounds on the steam marketplace, but you’re still not building a PC at the same specs as the console, which was the point of the conversation, not the games
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@anguswaterhouse9255 4% of 100,000,000 is a lot less than 40% of 1,000,000 bucko, and it’s not judging one group in an unfair way when it’s almost fucking half of their population, that’s why it took the woke trend to let them in and that’s why everyone fucking WHEEEEEZED at the Army’s “The Calling” ads
But forget all that, just go look at the Marines study where they put an all male unit versus a coed unit on the same courses and found the coed to operate significantly worse, and then that’s it, G G, this job isn’t a fucking office cubical job for excel this job is WAR and the best of the best should be taken, not fucking diversity quotas
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If only…so much could be done
As former president trump said: “if (Russia and USA) teamed up and went after isis, it would be over in a month”, but, at the minute it’s not the case, resurgent Russia, similar to resurgent Germany of the interwar period, seeks to restore former glory and power, and feels uneasy eyes watching it, but unlike last time, their main rival’s eyes are focused firmly on the East, not the west
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@peterflohr7827 mhm, and how much ammo did nations like UK, Germany, and France have relative to consumption rates? 1-2 weeks
A few days for Germany, and these are the richer more powerful NATO members in Europe, what’s places like Croatia, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark or Norway going to contribute? Not a whole lot
All together European NATO prewar at this war consumption rates probably had 2-4 months of ammo, I don’t know how much places like Romania, Poland, or Hungary had.
Of course now is even worse for them as ammo is being shipped to Ukraine as fast as it can be made, meanwhile Europe drug their heels to make investments into production by a year whereas America invested immediately and so did Russia once it realized the shit it got itself into
Russian defense industry is mobilized, and it has a few hundred thousand troops with combat experience no other military (except Ukraine) can boast about having. European nato currently doesn’t stand a qualitative or quantitative chance.
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No answer was given so I’ll give mine
Now if you’re talking historically like “was there a missed win?” The answer is no, the German plan used never ends in victory
How could they have with some different choices? Well in my view one is to commit more forces to cutting the northern arctic ports, severing the allied aid, in historical situation the Battle of Moscow featured some British Matilda tanks for the Soviets to use, this could be facilitated with more not needed occupation troops (in Greece France Norway Belgium Netherlands) to the arctic front, although historically the arctic front was plagued with shit terrain
and the big thing for me was Hitler’s original argument that Barbarossa should focus north and south, to deny the enemy their ability to replenish forces, so instead of the large army group center, a larger army group north and south, historically army group north couldn’t break Leningrad and link up with the Finns, whereas army group south got stalled a lot and wasn’t reinforced as the OKH wanted to push towards Moscow and sent most of the extras/reserves to army group center
In short I’m saying the focus from day one should’ve been the collapse of the southern fronts and the capture or at least cut off of the Caucasus, if you’re thinking I’m recommending Fall Blau but in 1941 you are somewhat correct except with better troops, better supplies, and an enemy that did not have a year of hard experience to learn from, historically in 1942 the Soviets learned that the not one step back order led to large encirclement (Kiev was a painful lesson) so they pulled back, a big assumption in Fall Blau was the enemy wouldn’t retreat from encirclement
How well this would work? Hard to say we don’t have a Barbarossa with 1 million army group north 1.5 million army group south 750,000 army group center to work with, but its no doubt better attempting to secure resources that the Germans desperately need rather than trying to capture a strategically meh city but muh capital
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@bilic8094 you need a ‘when’ qualifier, prewar the Kremlin believed by all accounts that Ukraine would not offer organized resistance and it would walk over like in 2014, the map Lukashenko let slip to the public shows the assumption of incorporating the whole of Ukraine and linking up with Transnistria, making it not so subtle who the next target would be
By the time you get to summer the goal was to push in Donetsk and Luhansk for more political reasons, remember Russian propaganda isn’t for the west, beyond demoralizing it, but for India, Iran, Pakistan, North Korea, and China, in an attempt to have support, which shows its working with the rumors of Chinese aid, obvious Iranian and NorK aid, and keeping India on side
When the Ukrainian counteroffensive began in Kharkiv, that’s when the annexations were planned, because in Russia conscripts cannot ‘legally’ be used outside the country, but by annexing these regions, Russian law considers them Russia, and thus you can deploy conscripts there, alongside the idea that ‘well we have it now, let’s begin the ethnic cleansing of the Ukrainian identity’, the UK MOD on Twitter talks in detail about this ‘Russification’ of the annexed territories
Right now the goal as we can tell is still to use pressure to destabilize and damage the global economy, which the west cares and is affected most by, to demoralize the west and pull the plug on aid to Ukraine, Ukrainian economy could not support the war effort in any capacity, its predicted to suffer a 35% drop in GDP this year, maintenance and specialists are found outside Ukraine for its western equipment, soviet equipment has been running out of spares and ammo since pre war, meanwhile the Russians continue to try to increase their strength and position, Russians still hold a qualitative advantage, despite the memes
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@yadayadayadayadayadayada777 …no, that doesn’t make sense, let’s take your math face value and not question its validity (of which I’m very doubtful)
Pre war Ukrainians had 220k ish sized army, 9 mobs of 200k would put, before casualties, 2 million men, most of an army is not combat troops, but to help you more let’s say it’s only half and half combat non combat
A million casualties on the UkAF would mean they have no combat power, none
In which case nothing would be standing against the Russian field army, it’s literally impossible, not even the Russians claim 1 million UkAF casualties
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I'll try to form a substantive opinion unlike many 'oh 5 countries? Rip USA" or "Murica bitches USA vs the world? Might have to only use pistols to make it fair"
(Based on if the USA was invaded)
Important things to consider are how a war would play out, assuming no allies on either side chip in, the statuses of Canada and Mexico are still needed, if neither were involved period, then the USA might be forced to tactically sacrifice Alaska. The massive ground armies aren't worth shit if they can't land them, and the US navy can pretty much go toe to toe with BRICS.
Air power determines modern war, and the USA has never been in a position even theoretically where it couldn't control the skies, combine that with aircraft carriers being the only resupply for BRICS aircraft, compared to the USA using land bases and well the scale tips ever further into the USA's favor
Brazil deserves a special mention, as its prime position makes it dangerous to the USA and useful to BRICS, allowing them to open a front in the Gulf of Mexico or even worse the Atlantic Ocean over all, that's where the main fighting would be at first, tactically you can't allow them to set up shop in Brazil, otherwise your war gets ten times harder.
Assuming a ground invasion is successful, reverse DDay style, it would most likely be on the west coast, as the west coast has more uninhabited areas to land and maneuver, American civilians are armed to the teeth, with notable exceptions such as CA, NY, and WA not withstanding, another reason why the west coast is prime for invading. Due to the American population having so many firearms, resistance movements will pop up as soon as BRICS takes an area, with all the usual resistance stuff, saboteurs, snipers, assassinations, sabotage, all that nasty stuff harassing BRICS constantly
Geography: the United States is pretty big
It's actually so big, that Texas is bigger than most European nations, and the continental US is about as large and wide as Europe.
To occupy 2-3 states would be a massive undertaking, and certain states like Nevada, Utah, or Montana don't really have a purpose in being occupied, but if you don't then your supply lines could get raided, a large commitment of forces would be needed to hold land they take
BRICS could utilize Brazilian and South African forces as the garrisons, this would help in BRICS's main problem (ill explain later) and their relative army sizes and training couldn't really go toe to toe with the US forces.
US forces all speak English, duh, BRICS forces would be hampered by communication problems, which could actually make a fight worse than if they were on their own, as they'd have trouble understanding if their left flank broke, who needs support, etc. it won't be long however until we all have little hearing aid things that could act as translators but for now that isn't an option.
Assuming BRICS can get on the ground, that's their time to shine, ground forces would have to push hard initially to make way for more landings and to give their artillery some room to breath, unfortunately for them, US artillery, while outnumbered, is already set up, and may have even been bombarding naval targets the best they can, whilst the BRICS artillery needs time to set up positions.
All in all, I think the United States could hold against BRICS, doubly so if Brazil gets knocked out at the start, nuclear weapons aren't considered because the moment one missile fires, we have about 3-6 hours before Earth looks like Venus
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@florinivan6907 see I don’t really get this argument, why would destruction of say 15 major cities lead to total anarchy? Does that not sound stupid? Yeah Missouri is gonna riot because Atlanta is gone, or Ohio because San Francisco, or Kansas because Austin, etc
And even if somehow that occurs, which it wouldn’t, state governments still exist, they have the legitimacy and support of the people to lead even if the federal government is decapitated somehow
This really isn’t how it works, world war 3 plans during the Cold War still planned on some kind of functioning states including in Europe despite the much larger and more real threat, but nukes can’t depopulate humanity, that’s proven by basic math of warhead yields and numbers of active warheads
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@rbo3193 let’s take an example, javelin
Even procurement generals like Dean said, this is months old in fairness but even after all those months ‘we have not dipped into US army stocks to supply Ukraine with Javelin launchers and ammo’ why? Because US government defense companies are given what’s called Warmer contracts, to keep the factory ‘warm’ producing needed equipment should a sudden requirement for lots of equipment happen, even if they don’t need the equipment. That happens for javelins, for M124s and their ammo, artillery ammo, etc
Considering how long it’s gonna take western companies to scale production, it doesn’t matter if the war ends tomorrow, western militaries that aren’t USA by the way have shit themselves realizing how little ammo they have compared to the demands of modern warfare. The only boon to US defense industry is eastern nato FINALLY, after 3 decades of not, when theyve been required to, switching to nato standard equipment (think 155mm arty, 120mm tank cannon, 20mm/30mm auto cannon, etc) as they dumped their Soviet stocks into Ukraine. But this was slowly happening anyway, and has a limit. If the war drags on for 5 years there’s no further benefit unless European nato expands their armed forces. Thing is, they’re not, they’re criticized heavily for doing fuck all for production, and quite a few have domestic production of equipment.
Any fruits for usa monetarily are not worth the tens of billions spent, unless Ukraine somehow became a massive trading partner which just isn’t gonna happen. Conservative estimates for rebuilding Ukraine to what it was prewar are 350 BILLION USD, that’s double it’s gdp as of Jan 2022
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@henrylopez7721 calling a stupid person stupid doesn’t make the other guy stupid, what a stupid statement
You can think that, it’s a very deluded childish view, but you can, I assume of course you don’t mind the laundry list of war crimes being committed against a country that did nothing, hence why we support them, and what instead should your tax dollars be spent on? Surgery on a grape? They’re not gonna run a surplus by suspending aid to Ukraine and Ukraine is probably the most ‘in need of aid’ country on the planet right now, and certainly more important than…most things you could name, especially for length of value of dollar
Once more, you are naive, hence why I need to spell out reality, wake up dude, the world isn’t nice, and america is the centerpiece because of its reach
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I know I’m a day late but i recommend this game thats probably on Pc and on Xbox One (at the least) called Drive on Moscow, it’s a turn based strategy game set during Operation Typhoon
I’m actually writing a review for it, no idea how long it’ll take, but since every review I’ve seen for this somewhat flawed but pretty good game is like, ass, I’m making my own, but i would recommend it, if nothing else the history of the offensive seen on the developer, Shenandoah studios, website is a fascinating read (and funny when they misspell words like ‘taking’ into ‘talking’), it even talks about the heavy losses experienced in Barbarossa’s opening months and doesn’t just ‘muh winter’ but does detail some of the major problems the winter had for the Axis (they refuse to say German or Nazi) advance
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@PAVANZYL ‘not the brightest cookie in the bin, eh?’
All I said was a fact, none of you ‘muh Binkov dumb!’ People ever give examples, you just say it, so I don’t know what the point of that line was other than to put a spotlight on you, but let’s talk about your examples
The Russians do know how to use their equipment, have you seen their kill chain reaction times? (That means how long it takes to go from target reported to an attack, I don’t think you know that)
Tell me how the Russians aren’t enjoying air superiority in the Donbas, they are but I’ll wait
Ukraine has poor organic recon and little mobility for its mobilized populace, the recon they do have and rely on is from NATO, not Ukraine
“The Russians might make centers of authority like Kyiv a priority and take the opportunity to install a pro Russian government in Kyiv” I suppose you didn’t watch the video, or understand it at least, as they’d have to take the area to do anything in it, do you think they wouldn’t have, had they taken it?
Gee that was easy, not so well informed it seems
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Who is this ‘we’? Also uh, the us, using a tiny fraction of its military shit canned Korea so bad China had to go all in to help it, and they still barely held the line, only getting a break after MacArthur was canned, Vietnam was also a war won not by the VC, but by the media and whiny hippie bitches, and finally Afghanistan was lost by the ANA, we did our fucking job and then years after they first started bitching about us leaving, we decided to give them what they want, and leave
Oops
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Fegelfly a Q/A isn’t a source, and without a time stamp is irrelevant, the subject of the necessity of lend lease is a debate among scholars for decades, i side on the side of “you would’ve died without it, soviets” considering the whole food shortage they were already suffering, but it’s irrelevant to your erroneous statement
It’s like saying “hitler being chancellor meant that his concerns over the limited German oil supplies are irrelevant”, you’ve peppered in language, but that’s all you said except with some terms flipped, Stalin (and khruschev, for some reason) and instead of oil supplies, lend lease
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@bleung2274 there’s a lot wrong here
First there is no precedent for how people act when nuclear war happens because nuclear war hasn’t happened
Second China has no purpose in nuking many of its neighbors
Third China does not have the nukes to flatten all of its neighbors as suggested, there’s a misconception that mutually assured destruction applies to every nuclear power, this isn’t true, only america and Russia can turn each other into glass, China cannot and certainly not so with multiple nations
Fourth these nations are economically dependent on China, and this only is growing, it’s like America nuking Canada like okay, congrats you lost a major trade partner
Fifth 300~ warheads will not irradiate an entire continent, it’s not even enough to irradiate the whole of China itself, certain nations like South Korea and Japan, yes most probably, all of China’s neighbors? Definitely not irradiated
I don’t think you fully understand the subject
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1Klooch more would’ve died, but the Germans would still lose
While the lend lease saved the USSR from total economic collapse, economic collapse wouldn’t stop the war, and operation Barbarossa is conclusively a failure by historians, the British would never give in and could never be defeated in the historical scenario, the RAF punished the Luftwaffe and maintained their holdings in the Med and across the seas, Germany couldn’t hold their gains for a variety of reasons
Also for all alt WW2 German winnings just FYI if it doesn’t affect the war in the East, and most notably Barbarossa, as that’s when the Germans had a significant chance of victory due to their circumstances, then it won’t work, Dunkirk wouldnt have changed anything for example, whether 300,000 died or escaped, unless it led to the surrender of Britain from public opinion, but that’s highly unlikely
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I said this in another video but again, I’m getting concerned at how much longer both sides are going to engage in this limited warfare, limited how? Limited to the occupied territory in Ukraine and the frontline, if Ukraine genuinely gets to the point where they don’t believe they can crack the front…then they may feel cornered into expanding the war against Russia in Russia, or perhaps Belarus to keep pressuring Russia, as they’d be quick to point out, Russia can and did invade from all across the border with Ukraine and through Belarus, so why can’t they? This would risk significant geopolitical backlash, but without an alternative military solution, there would be little other choice.
At the same time the Russians are stuck, their offensives may gain ground in a Great War calculation, but they don’t have the resources to continue doing that, and there’s no evidence (objectively, what goes on in the Kremlin doesn’t require objectivity) that Ukraine will capitulate, without western withdrawal, which is highly unlikely, if Russia gets to the point where the line is fortified all around to Donbas levels during the ‘interwar’ times, which were so fortified that for months little to no front movement happened there, they may feel confident to redeploy most troops, maybe leave the separatists and newly deployed forces to gain experience in the south, and try again in Belarus, in the north, in the east, what can Ukraine do about it? Nothing, not without invading or attacking targets inside Russia or Belarus…which just further risks total escalation into classical warfare
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Yes, a captain is severely inferior and unsuitable to discuss his potential capitol offense, or murder, instead of the admiral himself who’d be responsible for his murder
The idea that a mere captain would be sacrificed if needed is not unimaginable by the Royal Navy, the discussion with the admiral would give assurance he wouldn’t be killed at any moment
How tasteless of a comment, and full of the neckbeard brainlets to justify a war crime against ~1200 innocent men who did nothing besides not be a puppet of the British, as was proposed but rejected by France not a month earlier, but the British violating national sovereignty and at this point a nations neutrality has never been anything except a guarantee
All of you are disgusting, as a slavic Jew who’s had his great grandparents find their people some 30+ million people fewer from war crimes, at least those crimes are universally condemned
Disgusting to see war crimes being justified, even at a smaller scale
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@nomar5spaulding your entire first obese paragraph is a complete strawman, just by the way
But to answer, Vichy France in the moment, was not Vichy France, it was France, the official France, etc etc etc, you’re talking out of hindsight, just like Drachinifel
But, do not strawman, a strawman is only as difficult to defeat as you make it
You’ve ripped nothing but your pants guy, you’ve said not one thought provoking counterpoint which I find interesting because the video above mentions a few you could argue, I’d still say they’re wrong but they’re not baseless
Unlike your strawmans
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@nomar5spaulding none of my replies are bugged, are you on mobile?
It’s not unfair to distrust the words of Hitler as argued in this video, what is unfair is to assume complete failure, what everyone seems to miss in this war is this isn’t the first time France was kneecapped quickly by Germany, it happened in 1870, and no one expected that to be a problem, because it wasn’t
Face it, Britain is notorious for assaulting neutral nations on the pretext of “they may join the enemy” which is a war of aggression, a war crime, not even counting the people who died
And while they obviously had no crystal ball, look what it got them! Fuck all and increased French resentment and resistance
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@pyotrcapaldi451 the ally of India wouldn’t do much as the Himalayan’s are nearly impenetrable, watch the China Vs India video
There is no ‘handsome reserve’ of tanks, the Chinese have more advanced and heavier hardware, including artillery, than the Russians, the Russians lack trained crews for any reserve of armor anyway
There will be 10 Chinese soldiers for every 1 Russian soldier in the eastern region, the bulk of Russian military is in Europe, not Asia, they won’t be an obstacle for the Chinese advance
Watch the video, the only people who will be surrendering are Russians, if no surrender is on the cards, then the Chinese will bleed Russia to death, without the intervention of the USA, Russia would be toast, the Pakistanis would jump against India if India did go to war with China, but it wouldn’t be enough even without Pakistan being a problem, without the USA Russia could only watch as their eastern forces are dismantled and demolished
The problem of the trans Siberian railway that plagued Russia in 1904 continues to this day, a war in the east would see that turned into the bottleneck that ultimately dooms the land campaign
To quote the China vs Russia video: “bottom line, Chinese victory…if nuclear weapons aren’t accounted for, that is”
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Of course it’s racist, that’s the point, to genocide the Jews, it’s in Hamas’s founding document
That’s why I didn’t shed a tear about the siege, quit supporting terrorists and you won’t have a problem, but that’s too hard
And frankly, the only reason leftists are against Israel is because the Palestinians are brown, that’s it, brown good white bad, or Muslim good not Muslim bad, as a counter culture to war on terror
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@ajrk95 the Russians losing/failing doesn’t make them bad though is my point, at a certain point you may lose, whether by your errors or ‘luck’ or the enemy making great decisions
I saw this one comment disparaging the Russian VDV for being ‘unable to conduct a platoon level attack’, I’m pretty sure the VDV can do that, but if they’re repelled, that doesn’t mean they can’t, it just means it didn’t work that time, no military has a 100% success rate
In terms of the tanks, was the Kharkiv offensive really a tank battle? I have no idea no one told me who was involved on either side, was 1GTA there? Sure, is the loss the tank’s fault? Doubtful, was 1GTA a bad formation? Or given an impossible order of ‘hold double/triple/more Km of front than you really can’, these are things I don’t know yet I can’t imagine that the counteroffensive was successful because ‘muh Russian tanks (or army) bad’
the frontline is too damn long for having no follow up forces to supplement the line or the rear, which is always going to happen until the Russians fold somewhere to shorten the front or mobilize properly, without the political opinion of the occupied territories being positive this will always be required, as they will conduct insurgencies
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@edi9892 the SPG is outclassed
Light tanks can be cheaper, and are cheaper, the light tanks being used in both the light tank and hypothetical TD role, which by the way the TDs don’t exist anymore because tanks have become powerful enough to not sacrifice capability to destroy armor, means it simplifies production and logistics, and more units built drives cost downs, also you must never heard of the M551 Sheridan, which shot guided missiles, and was airdroppable
The IFVs make the ‘SPGs’ redundant, they have the same armament, are cheaper, faster, and do more, just like the light tanks
MBTs are overrated so much so every major military power has them, even island nations that in theory would want small cheap vehicles
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