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@selfsovereign1995 , you see, had a socialist company you don't have to worry about people with low morality having mass of control and influence over the majority of the people. It's not possible. That's why so many people actually prefer socialism. Why can't a moral people get away with improper Behavior at a socialist company? This is why: https://youtu.be/-VdbFzwe8fQ
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@selfsovereign1995 , of course those people are forced to work for someone else. Under the capitalist system most of the capital owned by the richest members of society. That's why they have most of the wealth. The richest 1% now has almost as much wealth as the poorest 91%. If you have 100 chairs and 100 people. And one person owns 90 of those chairs, leaving ninety-nine percent of the people to compete over the remaining 10 chairs, obviously not everyone is going to be able to have a chair. Not everyone is in the position where they can just get up and start their own business. That's why people do that collectively. That's why it's easier to form a Cooperative than a traditional business. Billionaires can buy up railroads, electric companies, grocery stores, and then charge as much as they want. Your average citizen is not in a position to do that. That's why they get together collectively, socially. But again, if you like an economic system where the richest members of society own and control most of the world. Fine by me.
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@selfsovereign1995 , who's telling you how to live? Yeah, you own your own business, so? You don't need capitalism in order to have a business. Again, no one's telling you how to live. Richard Wolff is just pointing out some simple facts. Under capitalism most of the capital is owned by the richest members of society. Those who own the capital get to decide what is produced, how things are produced, where things are produced, how much workers get paid, Etc. That's why most things are made in China and why the richest 1% has most of the wealth while Americans can no longer afford to live on a single-income. That's why United States comes in at number 27 on the social Mobility index which is even worse than Portugal in Lithuanian. Richard wolf is simply pointing out that if you increase the number of worker-owned companies in the country, at the same time increasing the number of things being made at home and the amount of wealth going to workers who spend that money into the economy as opposed to a small Rich minority where the wealth doesn't trickle down. I don't know where you're getting this idea about people telling you how to live. Dude, if you're happy with the status quo, well, keep it up.
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That's what capitalism is all about. The richest members of society own the capital. If you want a job, housing, food, clothing, Medical, then you have to pay extra money. Bill Gates didn't become the largest owner of Farmland in the United States for no reason at all. He didn't buy a big chunk of the Canadian Railway system for no reason at all. The more Capital the rich own, the more money they get without having to do any work. What that increases the cost of living in the amount of work the rest of us have to do.
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@youtuber6185 , of course socialism is possible. If it wasn't possible, then the United States wouldn't have to do everything in its power to destroy any countries that try to make the conversion from capitalism to socialism. You have any idea how many democracies United States has overthrown just since 1945? Workers already produce everything. You think someone like Donald Trump manages all of his Enterprises? Even when it comes to people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk. They never created anything. All they did was capitalized on other people's ideas. They hire engineers, managers, scientists, artists, mathematicians, Etc. Capitalist are unnecessary middlemen that just expropriate wealth from other people's labour. The United States is number one in the world when it comes disseminating propaganda that there is no alternative than that capless are necessary part of production. Nonsense
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@youtuber6185 , why not throw the capitalist system out? So what's your argument for maintaining a system that is one of the most wasteful and destructive ever device? Assistant where most of the capital ends up being owned by the richest members of society who then are in a position to control the government and economy? A system where most of the wealth goes to the owners rather than the workers that produce the goods and services in the first place? Capitalism is a religion. It has nothing to do with work. It's about the maximization of capital accumulation. It's the idea of accumulating wealth without doing work. It is literally economic feudalism. The economic system of parasites. Imagine. Workers have to do all of the work producing the goods and services. Everything they produce belongs to someone else. The capitals owner then pays the workers as little as possible in order to maximize profit. That means the workers will never be able to afford all of the goods and services that they produce. And then, with what little money they get, they have to use it in order to buy back the very goods and services that they produced! 😀 that's why they call it wage slavery. You're trying to justify wait slavery? You think it's necessary to have wage slavery? It's like thinking that a host needs parasites. No. It's not a symbiotic relationship. It's completely parasitical.
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@youtuber6185 , there are hundreds of thousands of worker-owned companies all over the world. But yeah, I wonder why we don't see more of them. It must be because socialism doesn't work. 😀 https://youtu.be/CuYR-_tfWFw it's not like the United States actually trains death squads to murder Union organizers and Socialist /Communists. It's not as if the capitalists and capitalist governments work with fascists eliminate any threat to capital
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@youtuber6185 , here is an honest Mega billionaire explaining that it's his workers that create all the wealth and actually run the company. That's why he gave 50% of his company to his workers! And what was the consequence? The company ran a thousand times better and was even more profitable. So now he's going to sell the other half to them. https://youtu.be/35epDjB_7WE capitalist need workers. Workers do not need capitalists. All wealth comes from mixing labour with capital. Labour includes both mental and physical efforts. The economy is the sum total of all our work. Capitalists are not workers. People selling the product of their labour, markets, people trading with one another, those things are not unique to capitalism and existed long before capitalism
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@tedkrygoske535 , what are you talking about? You think I don't have a clue? You didn't know that communism is a classless, moneyless and stateless society? Look it up. There's hundreds of thousands of socialist companies all over the world. And of course you can own a business under socialism. I don't know what you're getting your ideas from.
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You mean George Bush Senior wasn't an actual socialist? Trickle-down economics doesn't work? Just because the richest 1% now has almost as much wealth as the poorest 91% of the American population, I don't know if that's a good indication that trickle down economics is a complete failure.
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A lot of people don't even recognize capitalism as being a religion
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@ExPwner food waste is lower under capitalism? I love how you just make stuff up. You behave like a child. Yeah, one minute you're saying that food scarcity is indicative of socialism and now I guess they have so much food they're throwing it away. 😀
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@ExPwner , what does Russia have to do with socialism? Did the workers own the means of production in Russia? No. How many times does Richard Wolff have to mention the difference between state-owned Enterprises and worker-owned Enterprises? Just how stupid are you?
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@ExPwner , I thought you said you read Richard Wolfe's books? Richard Wolff explains in detail over and over again how the Soviet Union Had State capitalism, not socialism. Richard Wolff points out that some socialists refer to State ownership of capital is being a form of Socialism. Richard wolf does not. Even Vladimir Lenin said that the Soviet Union was State capitalist. Look it up! Now you can call State ownership of capital a form of Socialism if you want. But that's not the type of socialism that Richard Wolff is talking about. He's talking about democratic workplaces which are owned by the workers directly. You know this because I've explained it to you. You see why I call you a congenital liar? At first I just thought you were a pathological liar.
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You need to listen to the debate again. This time more carefully. Socialism doesn't require a state. Most forms of Socialism or to eliminate the state completely.
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A capitalist is someone that gets most or all of their income from Capital rather than working. Some capitalists own factories, apartment buildings, grocery stores, railroads, electric companies, Etc. Some capitalist just collect wealth from interest and stocks. A worker is someone who gets his money from his labour by producing something of value.
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@arthurzetes , I wouldn't care at all if it didn't affect me. If it didn't affect the economy driving so many people into poverty. What do you think people do with that wealth? Sit on it? No. Capitalism necessitates that you use that wealth to accumulate more capital. You know, just like in the Monopoly board game. Why do you think Bill Gates bought up as much of the Canadian Railway is he could? Why do you think Bill Gates is now the largest owner of Farmland in the United States? Why do you think he's buying up as much stock as possible at newly privatized labs in Canada where people get their blood tested? If you have to pay an extra $100 to fill Gates every time you get a blood test, that's $100 you no longer get to spend into the economy buying goods and services from your fellow workers. If you have to give up the vast majority of your income to a landlord then you're purchasing power for goods and services is going to be limited. Billionaires drive up the cost of living and the amount of work the rest of us have to do. That's why I care. Do you have any idea how many Canadians and Americans are actually moving to China? 😀 https://youtu.be/2vXjQHNfiW8?si=5B430U2agiWD1c_y
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@JumpJolpes_23 , am I envious of JP Morgan exploiting workers, working people to death, having workers being burned alive and unsafe working conditions, buried alive in his mines all over the USA and Canada? Exploiting children in order to maximize profit. Oh yeah. 😀 he even took the nickel used for making armor piercing bullets and sold it to the fascists in Germany. And then when the Mine Workers fought the Germans they end up being shot with their own nickel plated bullets. Oh yeah, JPMorgan does it better.
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@JumpJolpes_23 , and if you actually believed in free markets, then you would be anti-capitalist. Capitalism destroys markets. How can you have a free market when most of the wealth producing resources, wealth producing technology and modes of production are privately owned by a small Rich minority? ▪ The 1% grabbed 82% of all wealth created in 2017. ~ Wall Street Journal ▪ During the last 20 years over 90% of newly created wealth went to the top 1%. The Top 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From the Bottom 90% ~ Time Magazine ▪ The two richest people—Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates—possess almost the same amount of wealth as the poorest half of the population. ▪ the richest 1% has almost as much wealth as the poorest 91% of the American population. ▪ The wealthiest Americans live on average 20 years longer than the poorest Americans. ▪The number of homeless children in the United States is at its highest in more than a decade, according to a recent study by the National Center for Homeless Education. ~2017 stat ▪ The United States comes in at number 27 on the social Mobility index! That's even worse than Portugal and Lithuania! Never mind trying to start a business either cooperatively or individually. At 27 a person would be lucky just to be able to retire debt free. There's a reason why most Americans can no longer afford a family on a single income. Anyone can start a business? I think not. ▪ over 40% of u.s. households are one paycheck away from poverty. ▪ Banks have foreclosed on over 7 million homes between 2004 and 2015. ▪ There are 554,000 homeless people on a given night. ▪ The United States, the wealthiest nation in the history of the world, has a larger percentage of low-income workers than any other developed nation. ▪ As of 2020, According to the U.S. Department of Education, 54% of U.S. adults 16-74 years old - about 130 million people - lack proficiency in literacy, reading below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level. ▪ 30% of the low-wage workers live below 150% of the federal poverty line, or $36,000 per year for a family of four. 26% receive safety net assistance such as food stamps, welfare benefits, federal housing assistance, and other programs, which have been cut back throughout the years by successive Democratic and Republican administrations. Millions of workers in “the world’s wealthiest country” are forced to sell their blood in order to survive. The Washington Post featured a 41-year-old teacher with a $50,000 salary who sells plasma twice per week to get by. “I never thought I would be in a position where I would have to sell my plasma to feed my children,” said Christina Seal of Slidell, Louisiana. “I’ve applied for every government program that I can think of. I don’t qualify for food stamps, I don’t qualify for any programs.” The Post explained that plasma donations “have quadrupled since 2006.” ▪ more than one-third of us healthcare costs go to bankruptcy! ▪ A study conducted by researchers at Harvard University found 45,000 Americans die each year from preventable causes because they can’t afford healthcare. But, we do have a $1.5 trillion jet fighter that can’t fly in cloudy weather. Go ‘Murcia! ▪ In 2017 Over 30 million Americans had no health insurance and even more are under-insured with high deductibles and co-payments. As of May 2018, the numbers of people in the U.S. without health insurance have risen to 15.5%, up from 12.7% two years ago, according to the latest Commonwealth Fund tracking survey. This translates to an increase of four million uninsured people nationwide. ~ forbes. ▪ "the US tops all European countries in terms of the percentage of workers and family members who avoid necessary trips to the doctor because they fear financial ruin from the inflated costs of their private health care." ~ Prof. James Petras (the American Sociological Review, British Journal of Sociology, Social Research, and Journal of Peasant Studies) ▪ Millions of Americans – as many as 25% of the population – are delaying getting medical help because of skyrocketing costs. ▪ more and more Americans are selling their blood for extra money. over 40 million Americans, many of them full-time workers, require food stamps in order to get enough food to eat. That's more people than the entire population of Canada! When you're desperate enough, you'll even sell your blood! "With 58% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck, corporate America is exploiting poverty through blood and plasma donations while most other countries have banned the practice on ethical and medical grounds." ▪ economic insecurity and workplace stress is destroying the mental health of Americans. USA #1 for mental disorders. about 1 in 4 adults. about 60 million people. ~ (Archives of General Psychiatry, 2005.) ▪ Published studies report that about 25% of all U.S. adults have a mental illness and that nearly 50% of U.S. adults will develop at least one mental illness during their lifetime. ~ cdc gov - mentalhealthsurveillance-fact sheet ▪ and as people become more desperate we see crime rates increasing. ▪ 3% of American adults—6.8 million people—are either in jail or prison or on parole or probation. ▪ A third of states have a form of debtor’s prison, where the poor are locked up for failure to pay fines or debts. ▪ There are 1.2 million police officers in the US—almost equal to the population of the state of New Hampshire. ▪ The police have killed 15,000 people since 2000. ▪ There are 55,000 children presently in juvenile detention.
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@JumpJolpes_23 , what are you talking about? There's hundreds of thousands of worker owned companies all over the world. We know exactly how well socialist companies compared to capitalist companies. Of course socialism works. Capitalists are unnecessary middlemen. They hire workers to run everything. If the capitalist disappears, it's not like the workers are not going to be able function. The economy is the sum total of all our work.
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Show me a socialist country that hasn't either been bombed or sanctioned. Which country would you prefer to live in? The one being bombed or the one doing the bombing? https://youtu.be/CuYR-_tfWFw
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Yeah, but capitalism is where the ruling class gets its power. If the rich didn't own the capital in the first place, then they wouldn't be in a position to control the government or the economy. Under capitalism richest members of society own the capital. They own the means of production. Those owners get to decide what is produced, how things are produced, where things are produced, how much workers get paid, Etc. That's why most things are made in China and why the richest 1% now has almost as much wealth as the poorest 91% of the American population. Capitalism is the root cause of the problem.
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@ExPwner , what are you talkin about? Your comment makes absolutely no sense. If a motive production is collectively own instead of privately owned, that doesn't mean they can't sell the product of their labour into the market. Of course the collective production is going to be more conducive to free markets because the workers are getting all of the wealth which they will spend into the economy. And where do you get this weird idea about people being prevented from making free exchanges? How many times do I need to explain this to? If workers have the the option of working at a socially owned company but instead decide to work for you because you can pay them better, because they like taking orders from you for some strange reason (maybe they're masochists 😃), then there would be nothing wrong with that. Because it would be a choice. Richard Wolff has never said anything about forbidding people from working for someone else or hiring other people. If you're going to make such an outrageous claim, provide a timestamp in a video where Richard Wolff has made such a statement. Richard Wolff has pointed out repeatedly that if most of the GDP were coming from worker-owned companies, 10 most things we made it home instead of China and more of the wealth would be going to workers. That would make it easier for other people to start their own small businesses because there would be more demand in the economy. He's encouraging people to start their own businesses. If you can hire other people to do the work for you even though they have the choice of working at Democratic companies that are worker-owned, then that would be amazing! Why don't you actually go to your public library and get Richard Wolf's book and read it! Democracy at work. Don't be so bloody lazy.
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You didn't listen to the debate? Do the workers in North Korea actually own their own means of production? Do all of the workers own the product of their labour? No. The type of socialism Richard Wolff is talking about this when the workers own their own means of production. Why are you suggesting that he moves to North Korea? This is the type of socialism that Richard Wolff is talking about. https://youtu.be/-VdbFzwe8fQ
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You need to listen to the video again. Or maybe you made a mistake and commented on the wrong video? Socialism is not State ownership. When private individuals own the capital, that's private capitalism. When the state owns the capital, then you'll have state capitalism. When the capital is socially owned by the workers, then it's socialism. There's a big difference between social control and State Control. Two different things. Under capitalism the capital goes to the highest bidder. When billionaires own the means of production, they get most of the wealth produced by labour and they get to make most of the decisions regarding production. That's why most things are made in China. That's why the richest 1% has almost as much wealth as the poorest 91% of the American population and why the average individual can no longer afford a family on a single income. Or even a home for that matter. But when workers own their own means of production, then they get most of the wealth produced by their labour and they get to make the decisions. That creates an environment where most things are made at home rather than China. When the workers get the wealth they suspended into the economy creating more demand. You have economic expansion. When capitalist maximize profit by paying workers as little as possible, that causes economic contraction. People get laid off and laid off people can't consume. That results in then more people getting laid off. The only way to to prevent complete collapses by printing more money.
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If socialism didn't work, if socialism always failed, then capitalist countries wouldn't have to do everything they can to suppress them. Do you have any idea how many democracies the United States has overthrown just since 1945? Do you have any idea how many countries they've bombed since 1945? Do you have any idea how many elections they've interfered in? Of course socialism works. Of course people getting together for the purpose of owning their own resources and means of production works. Why wouldn't it?
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Which guy are you referring to? LOL are you referring to the professor? Well he just happens to have started several businesses and he works with numerous other companies. So I don't know why you would say that he lives in a book.
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Depends on what you mean by contradictory. Hegel lived prior to the development of socialism.
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@marcionphilologos5367 , yeah, okay. But that doesn't mean that capitalism and Socialism are not antithetical or contrary to one another. Capitalism is a system. Of course it is. It is a specific mode of production.
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It's hard enough competing against billionaires and large corporations that can utilize slave labour and state-of-the-art Automation and AI. As more people are forced to become entrepreneurs, the competition increases even more! One of the reasons most Americans can no longer afford a family on a single income or home. And why there's now over 40 million Americans utilizing food stamps in order to get enough food to eat. That's more people than the entire population of Canada! For every one winner, there has to be many losers. It's kind of like thinking that everyone can win the lottery! LOL
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Of course it's capitalism. It's called late-stage capitalism. Capitalism causes concentration of wealth and power. Why do you think it is if Bill Gates is now the largest owner of Farmland in the United States? He even owns a big chunk of the Canadian Railway system. That's what capitalism is all about. And as privatization expands, that increases the cost of living and the amount of work that the rest of us have to do. So now we're in a situation where the richest 1% now has almost as much wealth as poorest ninety-one percent of the American population. Capitalism is about the maximization of capital accumulation. The more Capital you have the faster your wealth grows in relation to everyone else. Even if billionaires had nothing more than a standard savings account at your local bank, they would still be making hundreds of thousands of dollars a second just from the interest. Where do you think that money comes from? It comes from other people's labour. Profits are maximized by getting workers to produce as much as possible while paying them as little as possible. As profits are maximized, purchasing power is destroyed.
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Socialism is not immoral. Capitalism is immoral. Capitalism is a living off of other people's labour. You can't get more immoral than that. Socialism doesn't have anything to do with taxation. If you actually believed in free markets, then you would be pro-socialist and anti-capitalist. Socialism is conducive to free marks and thriving economies. Not capitalism capitalism destroys markets.
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One person actually believes George Bush Senior was a socialist and that trickle down economics actually works. 😀
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Richard wolf is simply pointing out when workers own their own means of production then they get to make the rules and they get all of the wealth of their labour produces. When capitalists own the means of production, then they get to make the rules and they get most of the wealth produced by labour. That's why most things are made in China and why the riches 1% now has almost as much wealth as the poorest 91% of the American population. That's why your average American can no longer afford a family on a single income. So, it's most of the GDP you were coming from worker-owned companies, then most things we made it home and most of the wealth would flow to the workers who would spend that money into the economy creating demand. But most of the wealth goes to the richest 1%, the workers don't have adequate purchasing power to buy all the goods and services they produce in the first place. You think there's no alternative to capitalism, if you don't think people owning the product of their labour and their own means of production is a better alternative, well then I guess you'll just have to get used to the status quo. I hope you've been saving your pennies for a rainy day.
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What does government have to do with anything? Richard Wolff is talking about workers owning their own means production and the product of their labour, getting to keep all of the wealth of their labour produces. When workers and communities own their own means of production and capital, that makes them less dependant upon government and capitalist corporations when it comes to jobs and consumer goods. Workers / communities have the power, not government or capitalists
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@ExPwner , what Richard Wolff is saying is very simple. When workers own the company then they get to make the rules, they get to own the product of their labour and to get all of the wealth of their labour produces because they own the tools. Do you understand? Richard Wolff is not saying that workers should have a right to dictate how you operate your company. Don't be stupid.
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@ExPwner , that simply isn't true. Sure, you can make up your own reality if you want to. But what does it matter? If Richard Wolff is telling you to give your company to your workers, don't do that. Simple. If you disagree with something that Richard is say, that's fine. All I'm saying is that when workers own the company then they get to be in charge and they get to keep all of the wealth that their labour produces because they own the tools that they're working with. The workers are doing their homework without capitalizing on other people's labour for profit. Very simple. 😀
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@ExPwner , no, you didn't refute anyting. You're simply not dealing with what I said. Just another example of how you lie. When the workers own the factory then they get all of the wealth. When they don't own the factory then they don't get all of the wealth. That's because they don't own the tools. Why do you have to be such a liar? 😃 you can't refute simple facts.
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@ExPwner , dude, I just caught you in another life. You stated as a fact, not an assumption, that Richard Wolff was not a member of the working class. You make accusations like that all the time and don't back them up because you can't. So here is your opportunity to prove that you're not lying again. How do you know, not assume, that Richard Wolff is not a member of the working class? See? You congenital liar 😀
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@ExPwner , no. You are the liar. You're lying right now about Richard wolff. You also lied claiming that you know for a fact that Richard Wolff is a millionaire. Where's your proof? Prove right now that you're not a liar. Go for it. Show us your source that Richard Wolff is a millionaire. You see, you get caught lying all the time. Caught you again. Owned 😀
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In many countries, socialist businesses can have similar legal protections as capitalist companies, including limited liability. Limited liability is a legal concept that falls under the category of business law and corporate governance. It is a protection for business owners and shareholders that limits their financial liability to the amount they have invested in the business. This means that in case of financial troubles, creditors and legal claims cannot typically go after the personal assets of individual owners beyond their investment in the business. The specific legal frameworks and regulations can vary depending on the country and the nature of the business. The key distinction is often in the ownership and operational structure, with socialist businesses being collectively owned or worker cooperatives, whereas capitalist companies are typically privately owned or publicly traded. Legal protections are typically designed to ensure fairness and accountability regardless of the business model. https://youtu.be/-VdbFzwe8fQ
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Wasn't exactly civilized but certainly very educational
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@coopsnz1 , when workers collectively own a company then they can't afford to be lazy. Statistically speaking, workers are much more productive at socialist companies compared to capitalist companies. https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxTxO7Ms1BZ-J9CDLHBbwirGcRA6JCYCxJ?si=_Bt7r6ABxryLu3xj
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 @ExPwner , well then you simply haven't looked at the data. https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxyjl0-aDukfWwMC5iq5KkHSaXfhuNZp7X?si=w34djOHvYmNFD5Je
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What we need to do is get rid of capitalism. That's where they get their power from in the first place.
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@ExPwner , the middle class got richer? You don't know how much the middle class has shrank over the last 30 years? Dude, most Americans can no longer afford a family on a single income. How can you not know this? Yes, a small minority of the middle class got a lot richer! But the vast majority of them took a huge hit. Do you have a wife, kids? Do you live on your own? Do you own your own place? If you do own your own place, I'm willing to bet you had help paying for it. You told me that you're retired and that you're in your thirties. Yeah, if you were able to accomplish that with your own earnings without any help, I'll eat my shirt😃 the United States is now 27 on the social Mobility index. The richest 1% has almost as much wealth as the poorest 91% of the American population.
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Yes! The USA days of imperialism are coming to an end. Let's see what happens when they no longer control the reserve currency. The USA is already number 27 on the social Mobility index which is worse than Portugal and Lithuania. How many members does BRICS have so far? 😂 yep, only a matter of time now. If Americans think things are bad now, they haven't seen anything yet!
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It's amazing how many Canadians and Americans or actually moving to China! The communist government of China keeps the capitalists in check, making sure they pay their fair share and can't get away with violating regulations. I'm actually thinking about moving there myself like my next door neighbour. 😀 https://youtu.be/OIWyIPLcNRg?si=Cu2cyUIh6tB562Fi
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Capitalism is about valuing truth? That makes no sense at all. You can have totalitarianism under capitalism just like you can have totalitarianism under socialism. It doesn't matter what system you're under. If you give unaccountable power to some individual and remove checks and balances in your government, then you're asking for trouble. Has absolutely nothing to do with socialism.
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Yep! It's amazing how many USA citizens don't know basic history. According to government Statistics, over 51% of the population can't even read or write
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