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Comments by "Vitaly L" (@vitalyl1327) on "Software's HUGE Impact On The World | Crowdstrike Global IT Outage" video.
Which is a Windows design fault. Even a puny teeny little uBoot on IoT devices can roll back. And freequent reboots is a fault condition indeed.
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@BigWhoopZH you roll back the system image to the exact state before the last reboot. This is how it's done in all the properly designed systems.
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Only if your OS and bootloader are utter trash. Otherwise it is trivial. And if you do not have a hardware watchdog on a mission-critical system, you're criminally negligent and must go to jail.
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@BigWhoopZH "Desktop operating system" is a dumb thing that should have never existed in the first place. We never needed "desktops". What we need is *terminals*. Immutable and expendable. Microsoft have a lot to answer for, and spreading this deranged idea of a "desktop computer" is among their top crimes.
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@BigWhoopZH looks like you have no idea what you're babbling about. Try to define, in your own words, what are the use cases for this so called "desktop" abomination. You'll see that for anything you can come up with there is a much better solution. There is no single reason to ever use a "desktop OS" for anything.
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@BigWhoopZH the entire desktop idiom is fundamentally broken. You don't need a desktop, connected or not. There is no single use case for anything "desktop". You need terminals for data entry (which is a naturally connected used case anyway), and you don't need anything "desktop" for the local use cases.
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@BigWhoopZH you did not, you failed to name a single use case for this so called "desktop".
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@BigWhoopZH e-gate is a terminal application, by the very nature of the data. You cannot store it locally or even cache it locally. Where they failed is in redundancy and in the system design from thr very beginning (what kind of imbeciles do such things over WiFi?!?). And how any of the things you listed is "desktop"?!? You seem to call a "desktop" any device with a local processing. It is a massive stretch. Desktop is a far more narrow thing - an environment with UX modelled after a literal desk top, with folders, documents, tools and all that trash. A game console is not a desktop computer. A CAD workstation is not a desktop computer.
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@peterdz9573 the asnwers make no sense - calling any device with a local storage a "desktop" is nothing but a poor trolling attemt and do not deserve a polite answer.
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@BigWhoopZH you started with a narrow definition when you babbled about "no desktop OS" that would have an immutable root by default, and after this bait switched to a broad definition. Enterprise Linux distros clearly did not fall under your initial definition, embedded distros (Android included) neither, so it is clearly on you.
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@peterdz9573 go back to the beginning of this thread, to the outrageous claim that "no desktop OS have such a configuration out of the box", which pretty much defined what is supposed to be a "desktop" - a consumer PC or a laptop running stock consumer-tier Windows or one of the toy Linux distros, or a Mac. Ignoring all the corporate systems.where such a thing is very often a default, at a cost of very limited end user rights.
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@peterdz9573 I never said "remote". Terminal can be connected locally, to a single host (or a mainframe). And yes, 99.99% of the use cases of desktops today in the corporate environment should have been terminals, and the remaining 0.01% is for specialised devices with specialised OS configurations, not some generic "desktop" bought from Currys.
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@peterdz9573 you can have a gui on a terminal. A more sane corporate setup is where your laptop runs an immutable and a very trimmed down OS which can only run a VNC client and nothing else, and all the work is done on, again, immutable Windows VMs running remotely. A VM is destroyed immediately when the user session is done. I worked in such environments in a few major investment banks, for example. Is it still a desktop? I would not call it that. It's a terminal. And I first used immutable X11 terminals in mid-80s, all the technology existed since then. Not using it now is a criminal negligence.
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@tonymerrett I've been building fault-tolerant systems for over 30 years.
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