Comments by "Vitaly L" (@vitalyl1327) on "A Computer Science Degree is (Mostly) A BAD Decision" video.

Since when "cloud computing" is a science?!?
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@TravisMedia I really hope that the use of the word "engineer" will get properly regulated, like it is in many countries in relation to the traditional engineering. All those "self-educated" are giving software engineering a bad reputation, and it's high time the industry is getting regulated and cleansed of the impostors.
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@TravisMedia oh, I'm an elitist now by not wanting to drive over a bridge built by a "self-taught" uncertified engineer. I'm an "elitist" for not wanting to be treated by a self-educated doctor who probably went to a couple of medical boot-camps and know how to administer an enema now (and nothing else). Now, why software engineering must be different? Why do we all have to suffer the results of work of the self-taughts? There are hundreds of thousands of utter trash developers who should have never touched a keyboard. I don't care what they can "attest" to, but in order to solve the abysmal quality problem in this industry they all need to be booted out of it. Yes, their employers may not like it, companies never like to be regulated and to be required to provide some minimal standard of quality of service. Yet in all other domains they are regulated. High time we do the same for software.
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@TravisMedia how it's done in medicine, in civil engineering, damn, even in plumbing - certification by professional standards bodies with a government mandate to regulate. And, yes, ideally a pre-requisite for certification must be a relevant degree - just like you're unlikely to find a self-educated neurosurgeon, although it might be theoretically possible to go that way.
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Thinking that higher education is for getting skills and finding a better job is utterly misguided, and those who think this way deserve no sympathy. Want a job - do an apprenticeship, get into some menial trade and be happy. Science is not for you. Science is for satisfying your curiosity, for advancing the collective knowledge of our civilisation. If you go to university for something else, you're a problem.
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@lepidoptera9337 why would you interview a physics PhD or a tradesman apprentice for an engineering position, instead of a certified engineer?
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@lepidoptera9337 in aerospace there is a healthy mixture of PhDs and engineers. Engineering rigour matters even more there, you cannot let the scientists run freely and unchecked. I am a particle physicist turned robotics engineer myself, and I learned the hard way to respect the codes and rigour.
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@lepidoptera9337 I am talking about the rigour and following the rules. I built high speed ,high precision instruments for the high energy physics experiments, and, again, without the engineers we would have screwed up massively. They had to shut us down quite a few times when a seemingly physically solid design idea met their experience in what can actually be manufactured and what will work at all with the tolerances available. Not to mention hastily designed unsafe high voltage circuits (I am guilty of this, repeatedly), that people with engineering training spot as a problem immediately. In short - all our high precision measurements aee done thanks to the armies of engineers. Also, why would they use a precision higher than manufacturing tolerances anyway?
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