Comments by "Vitaly L" (@vitalyl1327) on "Ageism in Software | Prime Reacts" video.

  1. A 17 years old must be in an education, not in employment. It's not an ageism, it's just making sure we're getting adequate workforce which is not teeming with incompetent dropouts.
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  2. ​ @litpath3633 degree is a way to ensure that the graduates at the very least did not skip the basics. Because "self-educated" always do, their knowledge is full of holes.
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  3.  @lukivan8  not in a slightest. If someone "can" do surgeons work, but don't have a licence, don't have obligations to a regulating body, don't have all the necessary personal responsibility safeguards, he's not a surgeon. He's an educated dilettante. Same goes for the engineers. It does not matter how hard you self-studied, how high your IQ is, but nobody will ever let you design a bridge if you're not a real engineer, with obligations to regulating bodies, with personal responsibility, etc. Now, same goes for software engineers too. I am not going to believe you if you'll claim you, personally, never were a victim of rogue software engineers. That you never suffered from using bad or outright dysfunctional software. You did. Everyone did. And nobody should have suffered, if only this field was properly safeguarded, like medicine and other engineering fields. It's a high time we kick out all the "self-taught" who cannot pass certification, that we introduce governing bodies, that we introduce personal responsibility for any consequences of the bad decisions made by software engineers.
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  4.  @lukivan8  Diploma does not matter much, true, what matters is professional regulation organisations and enforcing of personal responsibility. This is what differentiate classical engineering from the mess that the modern software engineering is.
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  5. ​ @lukivan8 they should not be. In many counties engineering is a regulated profession. Just like some "self-educated" nobody does not have a right to call himself, say, a surgeon, and will be punished if he dare to, nobody should be allowed to self-style as an engineer.
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