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Comments by "Vitaly L" (@vitalyl1327) on "Computer Science Is Not Software Engineering" video.
how about actually doing science, which is what this degree is for?
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Computing was not any different, and nothing really new appeared since mid-80s. Cloud? We had mainframes and superminis. Java? We had p-code, we had AIX and all that stuff. Linux? That funny little parody on Unix? We had a real thing. And at that time CS was a more properly mathematical, more purely theoretical discipline, not polluted with people who wrongly assumed they'll learn "to code" there and will earn money as code monkeys in a bank or whatever.
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@rileyowen7245 CS is, basically, applied discrete mathematics. And a lot of ML is statistics, which is just a branch of discrete mathematics. So no, you're wrong, CS have a lot to do with ML. Information theory is absolutely fundamental for all things ML.
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@warguy6474 "You will never read a paper for webdev" and it shows. Web monkeys do not read papers on UX, and the result of their work is, as expected, unusable. UX is very much a science, an experimental science, and those who do not follow the frontier are doomed to produce sub-par results.
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@willd1mindmind639 IBM TIMI was not much different from JVM (and likely inspired it, along with P-codes). This (and early Java) were not the use cases for top performance anyway, portability mattered far more.
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@willd1mindmind639 Even Cobol was not really platform-specific and was mostly portable. C/C++ was a very niche thing anyway, computing landscape was far more complex and diverse outside of that niche. And I really wish HTML/CSS/Javascript never happened. We had a perfect stack before HTML became a thing - Tcl/Tk. Web stack did not solve any problems - it just introduced a ton of new ones. And even in the 80s there was a clear separation between CS and SE. CS was always a purely mathematical, theoretical discipline. It was about computers as much as astronomy is about telescopes. Nothing really changed since then. And nothing really changed in SE when it's taught properly.
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Not everything. You can reason about the existence of a 7-state busy beaver, but good luck discovering it in reality.
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