Comments by "Icetea 2000" (@Icetea-2000) on ""sexual harassment is fine as long as it's a woman doing it" (Suicide Squad)" video.

@arkdeso2864 Well yes, but it’s not "balanced" to consider sexual harassment towards one sex more severe than the same would be towards the other
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@nathanmitchell7961 But I thought women are strong, independent and empowered and "need no man"?
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@arkdeso2864 Oh they’re biologically different I guess they deserve unequal rights then?
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@josepmariasebastian8886 This is just cope to essentially say they need different rights so why use these euphemisms? The same sexual harassment is the same regardless of sex, and the same banter is the same regardless of sex too
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@Derael wow, isn’t that disgustingly generalizing. People are getting creeped out by how individual people behave, not because they’re man or woman. A woman being like harley quinn definitely isn’t looked at as "more safe to be around" than say, Batman, because she’s a woman and he a man lmao.
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@ChrisR2020 ??? Yes we would, it’s called "equal standards"
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That would be 5+ jailtime for a man even just WRITING that
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@lechant7991 Good point, they probably would say "no because men have more muscle lol" as if that’s relevant for power in today’s society
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@PugilistCactus It’s simple, whenever that equality would be at a disadvantage for the woman, suddenly it’s bad because it’s "not fair" for some other reason
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Wow I can’t believe how sexist this comment is, reported You’re the same kind of person to tell others you can’t be racist to white people because of "muh power dynamics" or some dumb excuse. Sorry but no, you don’t get to have an excuse for your shitty behavior, unfortunately for you it stays just as racist and sexist no matter who the recipient is. That should be obvious, but with brainlets like you out there it evidently isn’t
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Well maybe the fact that we equate one situation with asshole behavior and the other with regular banter is our fault from our gender biases? 🙃 Oh and if you want to make it about "generalizations", then it also doesn’t make sense why this couldn’t be the reverse with Harley. She’s not a random woman right? It’s not like she’s some helpless damsel in distress right? They know each other, as you said. If Deadshot came behind her in this scenario and grabbed her ass, that would be the exact same thing, and if you think otherwise you need to come to terms with the fact that you’re sexist
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@Derael That’s pretty assuming don’t you think. I take it you’re a woman right? And even if you’re not, how can you possibly say that men just find harassment less serious than women? That’s up to everyone to decide themselves. NO, YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE BECAUSE OF THE BEHAVIOR ITSELF, NOT BECAUSE OF THE RECIPIENT!! Do you even know what you’re saying right now? You’re essentially saying that if someone was r*ped and abducted and then has stockholm syndrome and tells the authorities that it’s fine, that that means the person didn’t commit a crime. No, that’s not how it works. You can’t just afterwards see if someone is fine with something, you have to know beforehand. You’re so unbelievably sexist it’s honestly astonishing. You’re saying that men don’t mind being sexually harassed or even like it, you’re pushing an extremely old narrative that falls into the same vein as "a boy cannot have been r*ped if he got an erection" even though that has been proven to be an entirely physical response, just like a woman getting wet doesn’t mean she liked to be r*ped. You’re being so assuming of what other men would think like without a care in the world for their feelings, while adamantly defending the feelings of women, it’s disgusting. You are just filled with doubke standards, YOU are the problem, you need to take a look at yourself and think about what you’re doing
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@Derael That’s pretty assuming don’t you think. I take it you’re a woman right? And even if you’re not, how can you possibly say that men just find harassment less serious than women? That’s up to everyone to decide themselves. NO, YOU ARE AN A HOLE BECAUSE OF THE BEHAVIOR ITSELF, NOT BECAUSE OF THE RECIPIENT!! Do you even know what you’re saying right now? You’re essentially saying that if someone was r*ped and abducted and then has stockholm syndrome and tells the authorities that it’s fine, that that means the person didn’t commit a crime. No, that’s not how it works. You can’t just afterwards see if someone is fine with something, you have to know beforehand. You’re so unbelievably sex1st it’s honestly astonishing. You’re saying that men don’t mind being sexually harassed or even like it, you’re pushing an extremely old narrative that falls into the same vein as "a boy cannot have been r*ped if he got an erection" even though that has been proven to be an entirely physical response, just like a woman getting wet doesn’t mean she liked to be r*ped. You’re being so assuming of what other men would think like without a care in the world for their feelings, while adamantly defending the feelings of women, it’s disgusting. You are just filled with double standards, YOU are the problem, you need to take a look at yourself and think about what you’re doing
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@Derael Because Youtube keeps deleting my comments I’ll split it up like this: That’s so incredibly assumptious don’t you think? I take it you’re a woman right? And even if you’re not, how can you possibly say that men just find harassment less serious than women? That’s up to everyone to decide themselves.
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@Derael You’re so unbelievably sexist it’s honestly astonishing. You’re saying that men don’t mind being sexually harassed or even like it, you’re pushing an extremely old narrative that falls into the same vein as "a boy cannot have been r*ped if he got an erection" even though that has been proven to be an entirely physical response, just like a woman getting wet doesn’t mean she liked to be r*ped. You’re being so assuming of what other men would think like without a care in the world for their feelings, while adamantly defending the feelings of women, it’s disgusting.
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@Derael You’re so unbelievably sexist it’s honestly astonishing. You’re saying that men don’t mind being sexually harassed or even like it, you’re pushing an extremely old narrative that falls into the same vein as "a boy cannot have been r*ped if he got an erection" even though that has been proven to be an entirely physical response, just like a woman getting wet doesn’t mean she liked to be r*ped. You’re being so assuming of what other men would think like without a care in the world for their feelings, while adamantly defending the feelings of women, it’s disgusting.
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@Derael You are extremely sexist and just filled with double standards, YOU are the problem, you need to take a look at yourself and think about what you’re doing
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@Derael That is all such massive cope to justify your shitty behavior. You don’t get to dictate how other men feel about sexual harassment on their behalf. It would be the exact same thing if deadshot touched her ass here. Ask yourself, why wouldn’t it be considered inappropriate if a woman did that? Because of our gender biases, that shouldn’t exist. You're saying that men don’t feel sexually harassed if their ass gets touched by a woman unprompted. That is nothing but sexist! I am a man and I’ve been sexually harassed by women before. It doesn’t matter that I’m significantly stronger, I can’t use that strength because if I do I’ll find myself in front of an ambulance and the police in no time. If you verbally communicate that you’re uncomfortable with it (like I did) and she just does it anyway, because she KNOWS that you can’t do anything about it since she would just scream and get every guy in the club to pile on you, then there’s nothing you can do. Women being able to exploit the victim angle for their own benefit gives them vastly more power in social settings. Because people like to root for the underdog, and we associate women with their weaker strength as the underdog that need to be protected when really this notion ends up going so far that they wield much more power from it. And the fact that you just completely ignore this and I try to tell me that I enjoyed it because I’m a man where sexual harassment is apparently not a thing is nothing but victim blaming
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@Derael That is all such massive cope to justify your shitty behavior. You don’t get to dictate how other men feel about sexual harassment on their behalf. It would be the exact same thing if deadshot touched her ass here. If you have any problem with that but not the other way around, you’re sexist, and I don’t want to hear your weird mental gymnastics how that’s supposedly different, it’s not.
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@Derael Ask yourself, why wouldn’t it be considered inappropriate if a woman did that? Because of our gender biases, that shouldn’t exist. You're saying that men don’t feel sexually harassed if their ass gets touched by a woman unprompted. That is nothing but sexist!
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@Derael I am a man and I’ve been sexually harassed by women before. It doesn’t matter that I’m significantly stronger, I can’t use that strength because if I do I’ll find myself in front of an ambulance and the police in no time. If you verbally communicate that you’re uncomfortable with it (like I did) and she just does it anyway, because she KNOWS that you can’t do anything about it since she would just scream and get every guy in the club to pile on you, then there’s nothing you can do. Women being able to exploit the victim angle for their own benefit gives them vastly more power in social settings. Because people like to root for the underdog, and we associate women with their weaker strength as the underdog that need to be protected when really this notion ends up going so far that they wield much more power from it. And the fact that you just completely ignore this side and try to seriously tell me that I must’ve enjoyed it because I’m a man, where sexual harassment is apparently not a thing, is nothing but victim blaming.
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@Derael That is all such massive cope to justify your sexist behavior. You don’t get to dictate how other men feel about sexual harassment on their behalf. It would be the exact same thing if deadshot touched her ass here. If you have any problem with that but not the other way around, you’re sexist, and I don’t want to hear your weird mental gymnastics how that’s supposedly different, it’s not.
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@Derael That is all such massive cope to justify your shitty behavior. You don’t get to dictate how other men feel about sexual harassment on their behalf. It would be the exact same thing if deadshot did this same thing here. If you have any problem with that but not the other way around, you’re sexist, and I don’t want to hear your weird mental gymnastics how that’s supposedly different, it’s not.
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@Derael Ask yourself, why wouldn’t it be considered inappropriate if a woman did that? Because of our gender biases, that shouldn’t exist. You're claiming that men don’t feel sexually harassed if their ass gets touched by a woman unprompted. That is simply sexist.
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@Derael That is all such massive cope to justify your sexist behavior. You don’t get to dictate how other men feel about sexual harassment on their behalf. It would be the exact same thing if deadshot did the same thing to her here. If you have any problem with that but not the other way around, you’re sexist, and I don’t want to hear your weird mental gymnastics how that’s supposedly different, it’s not.
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@Derael "I don’t get to dictate how men feel" followed by "I am just making a generalization for all men" Buddy, you can’t honestly be this dense. How is the male status being abused for power? If you loudly proclaim you’re being harassed by that woman either people will find you weird, laugh at you, the woman will turn it around like you’re the problem, or all of them. But here’s the thing, what do norms and generalizations do when reality is much more complicated than that? Everyone is going to have their own different experiences, so you can’t just say that men take it less seriously, that just diminishes the severity of those that had those experiences and didn’t like it. The stakes aren’t any higher, you’re not going to get r*ped in a public club, that’s what I mean, women being seen as more vulnerable makes them much more protected like you’re proving right now, which goes around to taking the opposite less seriously like you’re doing right now. You’re confusing what is considered as "normal" behavior as morally right behavior. The only reason we consider it normal is because of our gender biases. It is "okay" because women are typically not treated as seriously as men, like how fights between two women are referred to as "catfights" because to other men it’s hilarious and adorable because they’re much stronger. However, this leads to women being able to go all out when fighting a man, and even when they do injure the man more than they got injured, the man is seen as the villain, even if he was holding back and even if she started it. That’s what I mean with exploitation of the victim status, it’s just your own impression that is somewhat founded in reality, but goes too far to actually be unfair even if we keep the strength difference between men and women in mind. So no, there is no "default acceptable sexual harassment", it’s always wrong. You’re saying women are just free to sexually harass a man when there hasn’t been any boundaries set prior, and only afterwards do they have to back off, that’s so sexist. Just because men generally don’t treat them as seriously in your mind, that can only lead to bad situations where a man is taken advantage of for that very notion. No, women shouldn’t be conditioned to just initiate sexual harassment, and you are actively trying to justify it which is disgusting.
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@Derael ??? Huh? No I don’t? I am saying that possibility exists for women, not that all or most exploit it. I’m just saying a woman CAN do this whenever she wants to to screw over a man, even if most don’t do that. And that’s the problem. "Nobody who witnessed that" yeah but who witnesses that when you’re 1:1 talking with a woman in a club, most wouldn’t notice you and those that do would leave you to it. Then the woman can just say whatever she wants and people would immediately take her side regardless of what you say. And that’s where the unfair treatment of men comes into play. If it is okay for acquaintances among women, it should also be okay among men. There’s no arguing with that, anything else is fighting equality. You think you’re achieving fairness because of some supposed necessary imbalance but really what you’re doing is just working against fair treatment I will never let go of my point that if you don’t find a problem with this clip, but do find a problem if the roles were reversed, you are a hypocrite
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@gleekthemonkey4570 ??? Do you even remember the scene? He’s taking the mcguffin out of her cleavage because that’s where she hid it. Obviously that was not BATMAN of ALL people getting aroused and sexually harassing her lmao, and she’s a villain anyway. Your comment already tells me that you’re part of the culture war anyway that you seem to think only applies to everyone around you
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@LizardMammaryGlands No, one way is not worse than the other you sexist. Equal actions are equally bad
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@Derael I think I would very much be afraid of getting sexually assaulted by her what the hell do you mean??? She’s an expert hand to hand combatant, are you STILL saying I would be the one with more power there and therefore shouldn’t have to complain about sexual harassment? Also, you’re ignoring a very crucial side of this that I want you to think about. Men’s stronger physical strength on average doesn’t make things relating to sexual harassment/assault better but worse for the man most of the time. Let me explain: Yeah a man might be able to overpower a woman most of the time when they’re alone, but anything with anyone in sight would immediately be noticed by others around them and get the man jumped on by half a dozen guys. Think about a typical scenario, a bar or club or something, men’s physical strength and the belief that they’re stronger is a huge negative, as they are constantly scared how far they can go because one second of the girl telling everyone you’re harassing means you’ll get your head bashed in. It’s a case of our innate desire to root for the underdog, and our primal instincts are that someone physically weaker is the underdog even though in our modern society there are plenty of different ways to get power. In no social environment with a bunch of people do women have less power, in fact it’s the opposite by everyone immediately siding with them if they choose to confront someone. A man is practically helpless against a woman because what can he do when she sexually harasses him even if she’s weaker? If she yells and tells everyone around you you’re a creep to her, you’ll have your face punched in by other guys. It’s not like you can use your physical strength in any way to get ahead in that situation, in fact it works as a downside in social environments. A woman can also always use their full strength to assault a man, and a man can’t back. It goes back to women not being taken seriously in their strength, like how women on women fights are called "catfights" because it’s seen as cute and unthreatening as two cats fighting another. That’s not really always the case though, a woman can injure a man far more than a man can back, even if he is already holding back, because a man is "supposed to take it like a man". If that’s not sexism against men I don’t know what is. Due to our nature of rooting for the underdog we always see women as inherently more vulnerable without realizing that this cavemen level of thinking doesn’t really hold true in the modern world and that women actually hold more power in those situations by being able to rally the support of anyone around her against a man if she so chooses to.
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@Derael I think I would very much be afraid of getting sexually assaulted by her what the hell do you mean??? She’s an expert hand to hand combatant, are you STILL saying I would be the one with more power there and therefore shouldn’t have to complain about sexual harassment? Also, you’re ignoring a very crucial side of this that I want you to think about. Men’s stronger physical strength on average doesn’t make things relating to sexual harassment/assault better but worse for the man most of the time. Let me explain: Yeah a man might be able to overpower a woman most of the time when they’re alone, but anything with anyone in sight would immediately be noticed by others around them and get the man jumped on by half a dozen guys. Think about a typical scenario, a bar or club or something, men’s physical strength and the belief that they’re stronger is a huge negative, as they are constantly scared how far they can go because one second of the girl telling everyone you’re harassing means you’ll get your head bashed in. It’s a case of our innate desire to root for the underdog, and our primal instincts are that someone physically weaker is the underdog even though in our modern society there are plenty of different ways to get power. In no social environment with a bunch of people do women have less power, in fact it’s the opposite by everyone immediately siding with them if they choose to confront someone. A man is practically helpless against a woman because what can he do when she sexually harasses him even if she’s weaker? If she yells and tells everyone around you you’re a creep to her, you’ll have your face punched in by other guys. It’s not like you can use your physical strength in any way to get ahead in that situation, in fact it works as a downside in social environments. A woman can also always use their full strength to assault a man, and a man can’t back. It goes back to women not being taken seriously in their strength, like how women on women fights are called "catfights" because it’s seen as cute and unthreatening as two cats fighting another. That’s not really always the case though, a woman can injure a man far more than a man can back, even if he is already holding back, because a man is "supposed to take it like a man". If that’s not sexism against men I don’t know what is. Due to our nature of rooting for the underdog we always see women as inherently more vulnerable without realizing that this cavemen level of thinking doesn’t really hold true in the modern world and that women actually hold more power in those situations by being able to rally the support of anyone around her against a man if she so chooses to.
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@Derael youtube keeps shadowbanning my comment but I hope you at least saw it
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@josepmariasebastian8886 "it’s equal but it’s not equal"??????? You’re braindead
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