Comments by "Icetea 2000" (@Icetea-2000) on "People aren't ready for this.." video.
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@hunzukunz No, it may be a shortcut for skill, but nonetheless it essentially fits the same purpose, creating something a person imagines.
What a person imagines is uncontrollable, and shouldn’t be controlled unless you are in favor of a thought police. What they put into reality is up to them and whether people accept or reject it is up to them as well. All AI does is make it essier for people to put their thoughts into reality, it doesn’t create these things.
People should have all the freedom to decide what to do, that doesn’t mean that nothing should be illegal. It’s not that creating something with AI suddenly puts it out of your responsibility. You are the only creator of something that you put the prompt into. You may say you didn’t really do much, but that’s the thing, the program is just an AI running automatically, the only human controlling the input is you, therefore you are the one responsible for what you make. And if you make something illegal with it, then it’s your responsibility to shoulder
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@hunzukunz Of course, every thoight police doesn’t call itself that, it’s always about "stopping the spreading of misinformation". You know that that’s an easily exploitable way for bad actors to label anything misinformation they don’t like to ban right?
Yes, it very much is about censorship. "Character assassination", show me one person that was cancelled due to fake AI generated content. Something that is AI generated would immediately be provable to have been fake, and anyone caring enough about it would quickly find out that it was fake. No public figure would have their image forever ruined by something AI generated, it doesn’t make sense, it hasn’t happened and it cannot happen, because any such thing would be known to have been fake almost immediately, and anyone perpetuating it as something real would be ridiculed for believing something AI generated to be real.
I don’t know in what world you live in, but you seem to be under the impression that advocating for the freedom to its usage means also being completely removed from the responsibilities of its consequences or demanding that what was generated should be accepted by everyone.
Anyone can write anything, that doesn’t mean that anything you write would just be tolerated publicly. But you could write it is the point.
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@Lostachilles Alright, comparing AI generation to some sort of supersuits and WMDs is more than a little ridiculous. But I can’t compare an art enhancement tool to, you know, an art tool??
All of these things already exist. The supersuit comparison makes no sense when it gives you inhuman strength as you describe it, as AI analogously doesn’t allow you to do anything new, just generate something quicker. So really it would just be like uploading some sort of fighting knowledge into your brain matrix style, but that still doesn’t make you inhuman, or absolves you of crimes you could commit. No martial artist is "capable of laying waste to dozens of adversaries in seconds", the real world isn’t anime, and when you compare AI generation to inhuman feats that makes no sense, as those things could be done before already.
And FFS, it’s about threatening actual physical harm. That’s why it’s different. We regulate weapons because they could physically hurt people, we don’t regulate pencils because they could mentally hurt people. That’s the point.
Yeah the tool could create something you don’t want all the time. That's why it's up to you to publish it or not. Just because it was AI generated doesn’t mean anything by itself, just like drawing something on a canvas doesn’t mean anything when you don’t publish it.
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@Lostachilles Yes, I am aware you didn’t say exactly that AI is a WMD, I am saying that your comparison is completely misplaced because the "large scale harm" is not at all posed by AI text or image generation in this way like an actual weapon of mass destruction. You try to make a more general point, but you still use this as a comparison point, which I say you can’t, it’s that simple.
"Forgery is highly regulated", what, by the forgery guild? Lmao, you are probably talking about law enforcement after the fact. Which is all fair and good, and is exactly what should apply to AI too, but you’re not talking about that are you? You’re talking about inhibiting the tool BEFORE it’s creating something. That is not at all how we handle forgery either.
No, the suit analogy doesn’t work, because you were talking about achieving inhuman feats of strength like beating dozens of adversaries in seconds, something that no human can do, not even the best fighters in the world. And no, the best fighters are not "inhuman", I don’t know why you are saying that, the literal fact that they do it makes it human and defines the human limits in the respective fields.
And even the best fighters in the world cannot just beat up and mug random people and then just get away because they run fast or something. The law catches up with them all the same. If all the suit does is just make you a top 1 percentile human fighter, that still doesn’t save you from being arrested.
"When you’ve already had it explained", which I disagree with, so what’s so funny about that? It doesn’t matter how many people it equates, obviously I'm not claiming it to be the EXACT SAME 1 TO 1 thing in PRACTICE, I'm saying it’s the same PRINCIPLE to a pen. Pretty rich for you to complain about comprehension when you can’t grasp such a simple analogy.
It’s not about the physical properties of one pencil, it’s about the concept of being able to put anything you want on a blank canvas anyway, regardless of how many people do so or what kind of tool they use to fill that canvas with whatever they want, THAT is the principle I am referring to, and I'm astounded that you didn’t realize that.
Except that things being generated by AI are NOT automatically published. Can you give me one example of someone having their AI generated content leaked, not by another human but because of the system itself?
I have literally studied AI and know a lot more about it than you seem to believe I do. You don’t need to put someone else down in such a condescending way because you disagree with what they say.
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