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@stephenlomas9418 If you're referring to flat Earth beliefs, you need to understand that 100% of FE videos devote their energies to convincing the weak and stupid that the Earth is not a globe. Not one of them provides a shred of what could be called evidence" FOR their fantasy flat Earth. Like that big ice wall, for instance. Believed in, referred to in hushed tones, but NEVER seen, photographed, measured, or in any way verified. If you want the FE shite to achieve the status of a science, it must accurately account for all observations (both predictive and explanatory) using the tools of science and not those of religion, magic, bald faced assertions and gratuitous denial of those accurate predictions and explanations that do derive from what is known as science. Just nod if that makes sense to you.
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@humidifier8914 And STILL we allow them to set the agenda. We try to educate them, they deny our efforts, we try again, they refuse to accept any of it.....and so on it goes. Sooner or later SOMEONE will set out the problem clearly, and refuse to play this silly "prove the globe" game that nobody wins. The Earth is a physical thing, with identifiable, measurable properties. Wanna claim it's flat? Fine, then go get your evidence and show us. We have plenty of photos of the globe Earth, none of which are acceptable to flattards. Demand to see THEIR photos of their flat Earth, the measurement of their Big Ice Wall, their "dome", etc. And refuse to play their silly games until they come back with refutable evidence. Until then we're all just pissing in the wind.
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@whatisdoneinthedarkwillbeb9204 You really love playing your "prove the globe" game, don't you? However, you have zip evidence FOR your fantasy flat Earth. Where is your solid evidence for your Big Ice Wall, or whatever holds in your fantasy flat oceans? None, right, and not interested in looking for any, right? Dumbass flattard. No flat Earth without it, but you believe that it's, er, um, somewhere down there, I think, oh yeah, that's right, Captain Cook or Admiral Byrd or someone traveled to it or along it for a million miles or something, I read about it on YT somewhere... Take your flat Earth shite to a different chan where there are dumbasses like you who specialize in denying the fucking obvious.
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@djd1335 Their favorite game is the "prove the globe" game - in fact, it's their only game. Pity they have failed to land a single punch, but they think they have, which is, in itself, an indication of their feeble mental skills. What they can not, and won't attempt, is the game of "prove the flat Earth without criticizing the globe". They have never attempted to establish just what holds back their alleged flat oceans, just for starters, preferring to rely on photos of random icebergs or the Ross ice shelf. A pitiful subspecies, for sure.
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@PLANATE VERITAS 4.0 The only evidence you need to collect is the length of the Big Ice Wall and the compass bearings taken when traversing its length. If the flattards are correct, and you turn East when you reach the Wall, you should be heading roughly ENE (left) continuously until you arrive back at your starting point, having covered, say, around 100,000 miles (or whatever they claim). If you find that instead you have been traveling in a rough circle to your Right, and that you have traveled only about 16,000 kilometres, guess what - you have just circumnavigated the continent of Antarctica, and the Big Ice Wall holding in those fantasy flat oceans is just a myth. THAT is the only research worth spit. Of course, you could save yourself a lot of expense by accepting that NASA has published some excellent pix of the continent from space. But first you need to remove the conspiracy goggles that color your view of the world.
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@Tsudico You need to understand that flattards can only function if they attack the globe model, even though all attempts have failed, and are doomed to failure. They comfort themselves with a long list of flattardisms such as "show me the curve", "perspective", and so on, as if these will somehow "prove" their case for them, and decimate their opponents. Poor sad creatures. What they will NEVER do is present their own evidence for their flat Earth, namely, an ice wall holding in all their oceans, or their dome, or their edge, if they want them to spring into existence as well. You simply will not find one willing to do these, the simplest (yet impossible) of things.
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@wfla2285 Also disturbing is that more and more YT influenced people are believing that education is unnecessary and that all that is needed is to bring one's powers of observation to bear on any topic for it to be correctly apprehended. Like, for instance, the flat Earth advocates exhorting their followers to believe, for instance, that because the horizon appears flat, it is, in fact, flat. Even more disturbing is their ability to hold sway with their pupils by producing ad hoc rubbish to replace centuries of scientific endeavor. Putting aside Newton's descent into alchemy, this frightening trend is not helping educators, many of whom are already encountering aggressive parents in our schools who are trying to push antiscience such as antivaxx, creationism and, last but not least, this flat Earth shite.
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@jimmeisner1479 What a pity that you flattards can only play Dubay's pathetic "prove the globe" game, wherein you patiently reject all evidence proffered. What you CAN'T do is show us YOUR evidence for your flat Earth. For instance, where's your evidence for whatever holds in your mythical flat oceans? No curvature means flat, right? So, what's holding in your flat oceans? You dumbass, you haven't even thought about that one, have you? Now, let's see what weak as piss explanation you have for it. Oh, that's right, you're not allowed to go look for what you believe exists, are you? Morons, the lot of you. Welcome to the cult.
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They really shoot themselves in their collective foot. For instance, it would be really easy to claim, as cavemen presumably did, that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and that it sets from the bottom up, but noooooooooo, they have to claim that the Sun moves away from the observer until it disappears as a tiny dot - which it clearly does not. Just how dumb do they think we are, trying to sell that to us, and how dumb must they be to actually believe that crap. It's not a competition between two disparate sets of explanations for the same observations. They invent objects and events that do not exist, provide zero evidence in support, and wonder why they cannot make any headway in "debates". No wonder they are the butt of so much derision and hilarity.
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@scarlett8960 This is the gold standard for flattards - simply deny all and every instance of evidence demonstrating that the Earth is a globe, that space exists, that videos from space are anything other than CGI. Contrast this with their 100% reliance on the say-so of their FE priests that the Earth is flat, with not a shred of evidence for their baseless assertions. It really isn't about the shape of the Earth, as Dave says - it all stems from a belief that there are conspiracies afoot, propagated by "the government", NASA, scientists, teachers, Jews, "the illuminati", etc, and the FE priests skilfully massage this state of mind to produce an unshakeable belief that one of these conspiracies concerns the shape of the Earth. Sadly, it seems that the weak and stupid are the most numerous of the sheep being shorn by these charlatans.
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@bellybutthole If you research the topic you'll find that people with very high intelligence usually have a voracious appetite for knowledge, which can be very wide ranging, more than many people think. Some of them collect PhDs in a variety of disparate disciplines, maybe out of curiosity, which is strong in them (as well as the Force). Mere mortals may think they know a lot until they meet one of these rare creatures, and if they have the intellect to recognize genius, retreat sensibly, or at least treat it with respect. In the current context, flattards who have been trained by Dubay to spout his FE "prove the globe" shite, and to denigrate the efforts of well meaning educators such as Prof Dave, Vsauce, SciManDan and others, unfortunately for them don't realize that they are well out of their depth when it comes to math, astronomy, and a heap of other scientific disciplines. They are so unaware that the Dunning-Kruger Effect is aptly applied to them.
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@renemunkthalund3581 If your "sample" is everyone, what you are doing is producing population parameters rather than statistics, which are based on samples derived from populations. The raw scores are irrelevant until standardized, at which time you calculate (arithmetic) mean and standard deviation. Given that test scores are normally distributed (i.e., the Gaussian distribution), you can show that any given raw score equates to a position on that scale, under the normal curve, and you can call the score "IQ" as it compares with others on the same scale. Normalized ability test raw scores, by definition, have an arithmetic mean of 100 and a standard deviation of (usually) 16, so a standardized score between 84 and 116 is considered to be "normal". Those scores falling at or below 84 are considered to be below normal, statistically, but the real meaning of this sort of thing has been the topic of discussion for a very long time. Psychs have been examining intellectual abilities in a much broader fashion for many years now, and the concept of IQ perhaps has rather less heuristic value than previously. Also, the concept of IQ as a simple linear scale has been considered not to be very helpful, especially when the complexity of intellectual tasks (e.g., the transition from arithmetic to abstract problem solving and conceptualization in math) becomes much greater, and requires different, rather than simply more of, the skills required to perform at lower levels. But I digress.
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