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Comments by "tooltalk" (@tooltalk) on "Trump Suggests Taiwan Should Pay US for Protection" video.
Taiwan was actually barred from getting the cutting edge weaponary from the US until fairly recently -- largely due to the US's old policy of pleasing the CCP.
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TSMC's fab completed in Japan is a legacy 28nm node. TSMC announced that they would also build a cutting edge 3nm node, but it won't be ready until 2026 and it's mostly paid for by the Japanese gov't.
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except that it doesn't.
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Well, not really. The US always kept Taiwan at arm's length because of America's relationship with China. Of course, it's a completely different story now.
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@eduardoking8402 I agree with Trump's foreign policy in general, but the US needs Taiwan to keep China out of the Pacific.
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@volkxx Of course they make chips in the US. Further, most of TSMC"s chip-making machines and customers also come from the US (and the Netherland).
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@volkxx No worries. Apple iPhones didn't cost $3,000 when Apple was with Samsung fabs's or GlobaFoundries. TSMC isn't hte only option.
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@volkxx Nah, that's no issues. Having to use slightly older iPhones from 2020, say iPhone 12/13, isn't going to be the end of the world.
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@HdbeWydvd Samsung mostly makes memory chips and there are American companies such as Micron that also makes chips. Globalfoundry is also a foundry based in NY.
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@Joe-ti7qd Sure, it is for Apple, not for the rest of the US.
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@Joe-ti7qd No problem. Apple could make chips in the US if push comes to shove.
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@mactsai5652 no worries. Intel doesn't consider Samsung a competitor.
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@mactsai5652 No worries my friend. If Samsung hadn't been a frenemy, TSMC would have never had chance to work with Apple in the first place. And of course, TSMC without a big volume customer would have fallen behind.
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@azurelava7796 Apple developed the A9 processors on both TSMC 16nm and Samsung's 14nm. Samsung's 14nm fab was (and still is) located in Austin, TX. Tim Apple once bragged on a rare CBS interview that the engines of their iPhone were made in the US shortly to pacify criticism against and defend Apple's massive China/Taiwan outsourcing. Apple completely switched over to TSMC a few years later. Let's be realistic, TSMC was really nobody until a few years ago and even in the industry, it was fairly unimportant part of the chip manufacturing.
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@azurelava7796 repost: Firstly, Apple developed the A9 processors on both TSMC 16nm and Samsung's 14nm before switching over to TSMC for A10 completely. No worries, there would be no abrupt switch-over, Apple has done this before, they could do switch back to whoever over 1 or 2 iterations. Secondly, it's fairly standard practice to operate fabs 24x7 (to maximize utilization to get the most out of expensive chip-making equipments) and field support engineers from all equipment vendors on-site. It has nothing to do with 12-hr Bee_ss.
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@azurelava7796 First, Apple developed the A9 processors on both TSMC 16nm and Samsung's 14nm before switching over TSMC completely for the A10. Second, no it doesn't take a decade to expand existing node capacity -- it can be done over 1-2 iterations. Third, it's fairly standard industry practice to operate fabs 24x7 to maximize (expensive) equipment utilization rate with an army of field support engineers from suppliers standing by to babysit them 24x7. Fourth, it has nothing to do with 12-hr workday.
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@lonsolchang7694 the US can stop exporting chip-making equipments to Taiwan or China.
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@fantasysportsanalysistfsa8938 It's really because of Apple. TSMC was practically unknown outside the industry until a few years ago and without Apple's propping up, it would have been a solid #2.
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@blackthunderhwd5055 They both ended up paying more for the US troop's presence in their respective countries.
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@TouchthisiProduction that's 90% of sub-7nm nodes. Going back to 2022 iPhones 12 isn't going to end the world.
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@TouchthisiProduction You mean TSMC? Do you even know what it stands for?
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@TouchthisiProduction : TSMC's primary customer for their most cutting edge node is Apple and their mobile processors; then comes datacenter GPU from nVidia, AMD and the likes. Contrary to your misbelief, military applications don't require anything remotely cutting edge -- they share the same MCUs found in toasters or refrigerators.
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@TouchthisiProduction Why don't you just stop it? It's fairly clear that you know nothing about the chip business and the types of chips different industries requires? Most military weapon systems prioritize "reliability" -- eg, from external environ shocks, radiation, etc -- over anything else and it takes on average 10 years to validate/certify them for real-life battle use. In the automotive industry, a typical testing/certification process takes anywhere betwee 3-5 years and nobody prioritizes "cutting edge" over safety, reliabilty or stable supply-chain...
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