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  1134.  @Sun-Tzu-  The oil embargo was put in place after the Japanese started slaughtering civilians in China that's a fact that you can't wish away. The US forces showed up in north Africa at the end of 1942 and took part in the final campaign in Tunisia and I never said otherwise. North Africa was a theater of operations for combined western forces which then moved to Sicily and Italy while forces were being built up for the Normandy landings. Over time the US military become the main force on the western front they provided the bulk of the manpower and airpower. They also provided large numbers of armoured vehicles like the Sherman and grant which began arriving in north Africa in 1942. The equipment that was provided to Russia certainly had a big effect you think 6000 aircraft and 500,000 trucks is a joke you put 30 men on each truck that's a lot of soldiers not having to walk while German infantry were walking through Russia on foot. The supplies that were sent to Russia certainly helped in 1941-1942 when the Russians were under severe pressure. Without the western front which took away Germany's ability to have a meaningful reserve force the Russians wouldn't have won against Germany. By the end of the war the Russians had millions of men in the field but they were starting to send 15-16 year olds as infantry because they had suffered so many casualties there pool of manpower was starting to feel the pressure. If the Germans hadn't had to commit forces in the west they could have strengthened their forces in the east and fought a defensive war fighting the Russians to a stalemate at the very least. The constant bombing of Germany forced the Germans to commit more and more of their air force over Germany keeping it away from Russia in the end enabling the Russians to get air supremecy. The German air force was destroyed over Germany by allied air forces in a battle of attrition they lost most of their best pilot's by late 1944. The allied bombing campaign also pulled a lot of anti aircraft guns at least 15,000 away from Russia along with millions of rounds of ammunition and thousands of the guns were 88mm which could have been used to big effect in Russia against the Russian tanks forces. The Americans were the main force against the Japanese and the Russians were the main force against the Germans. On the western front by the time of the Normandy landings the US was the main force they provided the bulk of manpower and equipment. The Russians went into Poland with the Germans to carve the country up and the Russians murdered thousands of polish military. The Russians did a deal with the devil and payed the price . You like to say the US effort against Japan is nothing to be proud of well you could say the same about Russia based on what they did with the Germans in Poland.
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  2007.  @goranvuksa1220  the fact you keep making excuses for the T90 when the Bradley video is there for all to see strips you of any credibility. That T90 got it's ass kicked by two Bradley IFV. There are no NATO soldiers in the tanks. The US in Vietnam won every major battle but lost the war politically because the public didn't support it the fighting ability of the US forces wasn't the issue and on top of that the only way to win that war was to send forces to Hanoi and take out the communist regime but the US government wouldn't put ground forces into North Vietnam so the war never had any chance of being won. The Vietnamese had a conventional military which was equipped with the latest Russian equipment and they had the Viet Kong insurgents they weren't just some guys running around with AK-47. In Afghanistan like everyone else who goes there the US were able to take the cities and push the Taliban out of power but that doesn't mean you control the country. They were never able to turn the Afgan army into a self sustaining self led fighting force because so many of them were drug users, illiterate and corruption was rife it's part of their culture and unfortunately for the Americans the success or failure of the Afgan national army was going to decide the outcome of the operation. The Taliban could hide in the civilian population and retreat to Pakistan if they needed to they avoided major direct confrontations and just used time as a weapon waiting the US out because they knew they would have to leave the country at some point. If the Afgan army stood up and defended the country by themselves the US could leave and consider the operation a success if the Afgan army fell over the Taliban would sweep back into power and everything would be lost. The outcome of the war was always going to be decided by the success or failure of the Afgan national army so the US were foolish putting themselves in that situation. As for the intensity of the fighting in Ukraine no country has experienced that level of war since the Korean war 1950-1953 and that includes Russia. The Iraqi military in 1991 was still well funded at that time it hadn't been ground down by the sanctions that were put in place after the invasion of Kuwait. As far as tanks go the way you over exaggerate the loss of the Abrams and down play the loss of the T90 shows how object you are. The Abrams that were sent to Ukraine have been stripped of the latest armour protection and other sensitive equipment and don't have the trophy active defense system either so the tank is basically a standard version of the Abram that was fielded in the 1980's and with the quality of the anti tank missiles systems that are on the battlefield these days plus the drones it makes the tank more vulnerable. All the tanks have powerful cannon of 120mm the T72 is 125mm so they all have the potential to knock each other out it comes down to who can get into the best position and get off the first shot even a T55 with a 100mm cannon could knock out a Abram if it could flank it and shoot into its side where the armour is thinner. Tank battles aren't just about the quality of the tank it's about the tactical skills of the crew putting themselves in the best position. Without an active defense system that can intercept missiles and drones before they hit the tank no tank will have a good chance of surviving on a modern battlefield the Ukraine war has shown it and it has also been demonstrated in Syria and Yemen.
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  2698.  @truth959  NATO has been using drones for decades to spot for airstrikes and artillery and the US army has just brought a big order of switch blade 600 drones which have performed very well in Ukraine directly targeting artillery pieces,armored vehicles etc armed with a warhead like the javelin. They are also aware of the limitations of helicopter gunships and close air support that's why they didn't bother sending the A10 to Ukraine and they cancelled a programme for a next generation helicopter gunship. A lot of work is being put into protection for armored vehicles to counter drones and they have also developed weapon systems that can fry the electronics of a drone and bring down drone swarms i think it's a microwave weapon. The USMC has got rid of their tanks and are working on new tactics where they will be dispersing their forces into smaller groups they know they can't mass up on a modern battlefield it will result in severe casualties. The US military has also talked about making headquarters less obvious saying it will be vital to reduce electronic signals because they run the risk of being detected and the headquarters getting hit. The US is also investing in artillery shell production and have put out contracts for companies to develop a cheap cruise missile that can be mass produced because they know in a modern war against a near peer enemy expenditure of missiles will be high People seem to think that NATO is a bunch of dummies and they're not taking notice of whats going on in Ukraine and it's so far from the truth.
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  2975.  @monaliza3334  In 1939 when Germany attacked Poland after the victory Russia went into Poland and murdered thousands of polish officers. When Germany attacked the west in 1940 Russia did nothing to help. In 1940 Russia was busy invading Finland. Saying allied forces sat back to watch the USSR get bled out is pure propaganda there was no way to launch a major amphibious landing in France until the German submarine forces had been defeated which was achieved in may 1943. It then took 12 months to move over 1 million American soldiers to the UK plus all the equipment and prepare a floating harbour that could be used after the beaches had been secured and a oil pipeline also had to be developed to supply the forces. The Russians never faced having to do an amphibious operation on this scale in world war two. While that was happening the west fought in north Africa and Italy and conducted bombing raids against Germany on a daily basis attacking German cities and industries keeping a lot of German fighter squadrons in Germany and inflicting a lot of casualties on them. They also tied down thousands of 88mm guns with millions of rounds of ammunition that otherwise would have been on the russian front destroying Russian armour. They also supplied 500,000 trucks to Russia while the Germans were having to walk and they also supplied 6000 aircraft plus armoured vehicles. The Americans built more aircraft in world war two then all other countries combined. The Dieppe landings were the first attempt at a landing in France in world war two and was a disaster and a lot of lessons were learned that were applied in the Normandy landings. The Germans didn't react quickly when the Normandy landings happened because they thought the landings were just a feint and that the allies were going to do the main landing further up the coast. The battle of the bulge was a decisive defeat for the Germans they made ground early with the element of suprise but once that wore off the American units started fighting back hard and the Germans ultimately weren't able to take their objectives the weather cleared and fighter bombers took to the air and finished the German advance decisively. While the west was fighting the Germans they were also conducting major operations against Japan Russia did nothing against Japan till the last few months of the war in 1945.
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  3072.  @TheSMR1969  you're clueless about the Vietnam war the US allocated a lot of resources but they did so in a holding action US ground forces were never allowed to fight in North Vietnam so how could they ever hope to win the war. The only way the US could have won was to invade North Vietnam and go to Hanoi taking out the regime but US politicians wouldn't allow it. They wouldn't even put in ground forces to cut of the Ho che min trail. I read an interview with a North Vietnamese general about 20 years ago and he said after the Tet offensive the Viet Cong virtually ceased to exist it took them a couple of years to get over the losses and if the US had stepped up the pressure in 1969 they would have struggled to answer but in 1969 the US started pulling troops out of Vietnam because the public were turning against the war. The Vietnamese general also said if the US had committed ground forces to cut off the Ho che Min trail the North could never have won the war but US politicians again wouldn't allow the military to do it. The Korean war ended in a draw the original goal of the operation to secure South Korea was achieved. The US military at the end of world war 2 was cut back dramatically when the war broke out in Korea they weren't the army of world war 2 and weren't ready for a war of that magnitude the anti tank weapons US troops had couldn't even penetrate the armour of the russian tanks that North Korea was using. The US army had to learn a lot of lessons and things started to turn around when General Ridgeway took control. When the Chinese entered the war they used numbers of men as a weapon throwing masses at an objective which the US countered with artillery. Air power was limited in its effectiveness in the ground attack role because the Chinese infantry couldn't be spotted easily from the air they could blend into the terrain. The commonwealth forces offered some support but the bulk of the effort still came from the Americans. As far as the Ukraine war goes Russia has performed poorly Russians try to make themselves look good by hyping up NATO involvement but the reality only a tiny portion of equipment has been provided to Ukraine and a lot of it was old equipment nearing the end of it's life. Ukraine has shown themselves to be tough committed soldiers but they are fighting with some big limitations they have a small airforce and have limited numbers of SAM systems they don't have enough to protect their civilian infrastructure and their forward military units. They also have limited amphibious capability and mine clearing ability. The russian military has every advantage and is fighting a conventional war where they can see their enemy and they still can't achieve a decisive outcome.
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  3076.  @TheSMR1969  The black sea fleet was literally defeated by a country that doesn't even have a Navy.🤦😂😂 In 1991 the Iraqi had SAM systems and even AAA fire is effective against low flying ground attack aircraft. The preliminary bombardment in the 1991 Iraq war wasn't just about getting air supremely it was also about softening up the enemy ground forces before the ground advance started and when it did start the results were decisive. Anyone who has studied world war two knows the bulk of German losses were on the russian front but the reality is Russia didn't beat Germany by themselves and they couldn't have. The allied bombing campaign tied down thousands of 88mm guns with millions of rounds of ammunition that could have been on the Russian front destroying thousands more russian tanks every year severely depleting russian armoured forces. The west also supplied Russia with 500,000 trucks while the Germans were walking or using horses. The Germans didn't just surrender or runaway in any of the western theatres of operations North Africa, Italy,France. Russia didn't fight alone in world war 2 and they're not fighting alone in Ukraine they have North Korea,Iran and China helping them. The reality russian fanboy is the war in Ukraine has been a disaster for Russia you fools actually thought you were going to drive into Kiev and install a puppet government and it was going to be easy.🤦😂😂 You fools capture a small city like Bakmut and it's considered a great victory by that's how bad things have got. You will never control Ukraine because the people don't want it you get a significant advantage in a conventional war the Ukrainian can transition to an insurgency and you will be chasing ghosts the years will drag on and Russians will keep dying. Putin might even call you up tough guy
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  3077.  @TheSMR1969  coalition forces in Afghanistan suffered 3600 dead the bulk of the casualties suffered on the allied side was Afgan national army and police. The communist goal in Korea was to overrun the country and impose communism and they failed so you can stop coping about Korea. In the Pacific war the majority of commonwealth forces were in Burma and the Australians fought in New Guinea. The Americans did the bulk of the fighting in the island hopping campaign and they destroyed the Japanese navy, airforce and their merchant marine. On the western front the Germans still had seasoned soldiers in their parachute divisions and SS divisions. You keep repeating the same garbage that Ukraine is better equipped than the NVA yet the reality is that the NVA had far stronger air defences than the Ukrainian have. The US lost 10000 aircraft and around 5500 of that was helicopters because the only way to get around was by helicopter because of the nature of the terrain and those helicopters needed other air assets to provide them with protection and those assets were also flying low which left them vulnerable. The US were flying at a very high tempo so losses were going to mount up but they still only averaged 0.4 losses per thousand sorties. You keep saying Ukraine has received more funding than the NVA but the western equipment Ukraine has received is a lot more expensive to produce than the tech that was available in the 60's. Russia hasn't lost as many aircraft because they're not flying them within range of Ukrainian air defences very often and they not having to rely on helicopters to transport their soldiers leaving them vulnerable to anti aircraft weapon systems. Your the one that's ignorant you probably believed all the garbage Putin feed you about the special military operation and how well things are going.🤡
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  3430. The Donbas was always going to be lost. At the beginning of the war the Ukrainian forces were fighting like well armed mobile insurgents and were able to ambush hitting and running they weren't a static force. In the Donbas they have gone static fighting from fixed positions in trenches that can be seen from the air and pounded with artillery and airstrikes. They have allowed the Russians to concentrate their artillery on targets and bludgeon them. They can't match the Russian artillery for every round they fire they get 10-20 back their positions come under such heavy fire they can either stay there and get bludgeoned or withdraw giving up the ground. Even if they fight bravely holding russian frontal attacks the Ukrainian flanks can't with stand the Russian artillery and break which comprises their whole frontline they have no choice but to withdraw or get cut off. The Ukrainian should go back to fighting like well armed stealthy mobile insurgents hitting and running looking to continuously inflict casualties on the Russians while not providing big static targets for the Russians to pound with artillery. It will be interesting to see what tactics the Ukrainian use after the Donbas is lost the separatist forces won't have the strength to hold the whole Donbas themselves so there will need to be tens of thousands of Russians stationed there permanently. They will have to set up bases which will be vulnerable to HIMARS and M270 MLRS plus their supply convoys will also be vulnerable to ambush. Holding and controlling the Donbas could prove harder for the Russians than capturing it.
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  3768.  @SpeCifiC0507  I don't make excuses I state facts which are known to anyone who bothered to study the Vietnam war. The only way the war could be won was to go to Hanoi and take out the regime but the US wasn't prepared to put ground forces into North Vietnam. At that point the war was nothing but a holding action that simply couldn't be won long term because the US couldn't stay there forever they were operating on a limited timeline and it was the same situation in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan the Taliban were able to base themselves in Pakistan where they couldn't be touched by US forces and they just waited the US out. The success or failure or both the Vietnam and Afghanistan operations was going to come down to the US being able to train up an effective army to protect the country when US forces left and in neither operation were they able to do so. The US public decided the Vietnam war wasn't worth it so the politicians walked away from the war and stopped supplying the south with ammunition so when the north attacked in 1975 the south collapsed. In Afghanistan 75-80% of the Afghan soldiers were drug users and illiterate building an effective army from that quality of manpower was impossible so the failure of the operation in Afghanistan was inevitable. The vietnamese forces were not just a bunch of rice farmers they had their conventional military and then they had the Viet Cong guerillas. The north Vietnamese conventional forces were well equipped with the latest Russian equipment on the ground and in the air. They had tanks artillery and modern surface-to-air missile systems from Russia and they also had a small air force equipped with MIGs from Russia.
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  3927.  @haroldgodwinson832  It's not true that our commanders didn't understand how important the air field was a whole brigade was given the job of defending the airfield. We had 4 battalions plus engineer units fighting as infantry and 3 of the 4 professional infantry battalions were positioned to defend the airfield the 22nd directly on it and the 21st and 23rd were positioned just behind hill 107 ready to move up in support. The New Zealand command was told there was going to be a seaborne landing and it was going to be 10,000 strong and the best landing beaches were indentified as stretching from the beaches at Maleme down to Platanias and that is why the brigade was so strung out with the engineer units covering the beaches as well as the 28th Maori. The engineer units were told to be ready to move up to support the forces at the airfield. It's a fallacy that the New Zealand commanders didn't understand the importance of the airfield and the proof is not only in the fact we had 3 of the 4 infantry battalions assigned to airfield defence but also in the orders given to 5th brigade which I will provide here word for word. 5th brigade operation instruction no 4. A. 5 inf brigade will maintain a defensive line running east and west from Platanias to Tavronitis river with special regard to the defence of Maleme aerodrome. B. In the event of the enemy making an airborne or seaborne attack on any part of the area,to counter attack and destroy him immediately. C. The whole essence of the bde's work is a spirited defence. The fallacy that Freyberg didn't understand how important the airfield was has been created by predominantly british historians and it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. The soldiers fought well at Malame and the ground was held the failure came about when the 22 battalion commander walked off the vital ground and the commanders from the 21st and 23 rd battalions did nothing to correct the mistake. They then contacted the Brigade commander Hargest who agreed with the decision to hold the line and not counter attack. All 4 men failed to carry out their orders and that caused the loss of the airfield and to make matters worse Hargest even when he knew the 22nd battalion was talking about abandoning hill 107 contacted Freyberg and told him everything was quite satisfactory living Freyberg completely in the dark about the disaster that was unfolding he didn't find out till the morning when it was daylight and the german planes wes back in the air rendering a counter attack at that point out of the question. New Zealand soldiers on Crete weren't inadequately trained and any analysis of their engagements with the Germans show this our infantry heavily out gunned were engaging the Germans in close quarter battle with bayonets and coming out on top numerous times. Crete was lost by senior leadership failures.
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  3929.  @haroldgodwinson832  The orders given to 5th brigade clearly show that Creforce headquarters led by Freyberg knew the importance of the airfield and as I stated earlier the 3 battalion commanders and the Brigade commander failed to carry those orders out. That wasn't the fault of Freyberg or the soldiers in the field doing the fighting. On may 16 we received an intelligence report that the sea borne contingent was 10,000 strong and we had also received reports earlier there was going to be a seaborne contingent. It influenced the positioning of the troops because they were told the best beaches to land were from Maleme airfield to Platanias they couldn't box the airfield with troops they had to defend the airfield and the beaches and it left them a battalion short which meant the western side of the airfield was undefended. The divisional commander Puttick recognized the threat but there wasn't a spare battalion to put there. They looked at moving first Greek regiment from Kastilli but there was no transport and no tools for them to dig in with and Kastilli needed to be defended anyway so they had to make the best of what they had. Churchill did not tell Freyberg there wasn't going to be a seaborne landing and our commanders were nervous about it because the Germans had air supremecy and it showed in the battle for Crete the power planes had against ships the Royal Navy suffered severe damage. Our commanders on Crete had no idea what kind of seaborne landing the German could carry out they relied on the information they were given you are looking back with the benefit of hindsight. New Zealand has never shyed away from our role in the loss of Crete it was obvious orders weren't carried about by 5th Brigades senior leadership it has never been disputed and careers were ended because of it. The whole idea of defending Crete in the first place was Insanity because the garrison could only receive 20% of the daily tonnage of supplies needed even if the battle had been won the allies would never have been able to stay on the island it would have to have been abandoned the whole Greece campaign was a waste of time and you can thank Winston Churchill for that
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  3931.  @haroldgodwinson832  you continue to cherry pick what I say to try and support your argument and it won't work. I have never denied we lost Crete I said that in repeated posts and the 4 men responsible were the battalion commanders from the 21,22,23 and the 5th brigade commander Hargest who failed to carry out their orders. It's portrayed that the whole New Zealand leadership didn't understand the importance of the airfield and this narrative has been pushed by british historians and it's a lie. The directive from Creforce head quarters led by Freyberg to 5th brigade proves this and so does the fact that 3 of the 4 professional infantry battalion were assigned to the defense. You said that the New Zealand soldiers lacked training and any analysis of our infantry on Crete proves this to be wrong. Not one company in 5th Brigades area was overrun in the first 24 hours they all held their postions and prevailed and 22nd battalion withstood having 3000 bombs dropped on them then proceeded to stop an attack by the equivalent of just over two full strength para battalions. All the infantry in the brigade conducted themselves in a very professional manner and the Germans were slaughtered and they have admitted they only got through because we didn't counter attack in the first 24 hours. You look at other actions throughout the battle our soldiers excelled in the night fighting and close quarter battle so it's bullshit to say they were inadequately trained. The failings were with the senior leadership in ,5th brigade who didn't do what they were told they carry that responsibility it doesn't fall on the rank and file who performed well. You take your orders in war you don't just go around doing what you want if the infantry are told to do some thing they do it. And as for showing true grit our soldiers showed real grit at Galatas and 42 street when they were prepared to confront the Germans up close and personal with bayonets.
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