Comments by "chico" (@chico9805) on "Will the West experience a conservative demographic revolution?" video.

  1.  @timurtheterrible4062  It can be subverted, but not easily. Christianity persevered and built multiple civilizations for over 2000 years. Athiesm took hold, and in less than a century, we are looking at societal collapse. Just a coincidence, huh?
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  2. ​ @timurtheterrible4062 ​"Morals, culture, ideals and political beliefs', that are all easily subverted and change like the wind.
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  3.  @timurtheterrible4062  You admitted in one sentence, that Christianity did birth the West, and proceeded to deny it in the next. This contradiction essentially sums up your weak argument. The trope of Christianity somehow being the cause of Rome's collapse is old and tired; Rome was well on its way, before Justinian ever saw Chi-ro. I'm also not sure why you've brought up the medieval era; it hurts your argument, as that time period saw the greatest influence and contribution of Christianity to Western culture and its technological, spiritual and philosophical development. It is undeniable that Christianity built the West, as without its unifying force, Europe and its progeny would be unrecognisable. And, like the rest of your argument, blamimg our woes on capitalism is a baseless assertion. Free enterprise is what drove the West to economic prosperity; with the period of laissez-faire policy, lasting up to the early 20th century, providing the greatest wealth creation and improvement in living standards in history. Never before, and likely never after will we see such a drastic rise in prosperity; and it all derived from capitalism. The economic woes of the West come not from a system that hasn't been implemented in earnest for a century, but rather from state interference in the formely free market, a.k.a. Socialism. In the West, we are currently suffering the inefficiencies of a corporatist/fascist economy, run by criminal oligarchs. This system spells the ruin of the West.
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  4. ​ @aurelioboi They largely were at the time of Christianity's rise.
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  5.  @Anonymous-sb9rr  "Stories". Jesus was a historical figure, you can dispute His divinity, but you cannot honestly dispute His existence.
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  6. ​ @caim3465 Why not? From an outsider's perspective, Russia looks like an excellent place for a man to live. High ratio of women to men, so finding a wife shouldn't be too hard. Good standard of living (low prices for food and utilities, etc.). Not to mention, a lack of the degeneracy seen in the West. Yeah, I'll take a one-way ticket to Moscow anyday.
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  7. What evidence disproves Christianity? I'm yet to encounter it.
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  8.  @timurtheterrible4062  You definitely implied it, so don't backtrack now. And yes, by all historical and anthropological definitions, Christianity did built the West. Hellenistic Greece and Ancient Rome were, as you said, classical civilizations of their own, not part of the West. Claiming they are the same, is like asserting no difference between Sassanid Persia and Modern Iran. Another baseless assertion. And, yes, Christianity founded what we know as modern science. This is primarly through the patronage of the Catholic Church, with ecclesiastical scholars like Thomas Aquinas and Roger Bacon laying the foundation, that later 'Enlightenment' figures would build off of. The West owes its technological development to the Church. Furthermore, your criticisms of laissez-faire are again, baseless assertions. It seems you have a habit of doing this. Children have always been regarded as extra labour. Before the industrial revolution and the mass-urbanisation that followed, it was standard practice for children to help on farms. This practice was simply transferred to the factories, so I'm not sure how capitalism is to blame for what has been on-going, since the beginning of civilization and prior. In fact, it is thanks to capitalism and the efficiency it produced, that children were no longer needed to work and could be sent to school instead. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by 'ownership of people' - Are you claiming that industrial workers are slaves? Last time I checked, they get paid a wage and can leave their job at any time. Where is the bondage here? This hyperbolic nonsense reeks of hegelian emotionalism. Also, you talk about power-checking laws, as if they discredit capitalism, when they actually bolster it. The prevention of corruption and abuse does not impede the free market, but rather strengthens it, by in-turn preventing monopolisation. Of course, this can go the other way, and lawmakers are bribed to make laws that create monopolies, but this is not an indictment of capitalism. This is just human nature, and the result of greed is socialism, as I've already explained.
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  9. ​ @timurtheterrible4062  Denying what you clearly said doesn't rectify your lack of a coherent argument, which essentially boils down to "atheism is meaningful, because I say it is". Apparently, you have 'morals', yet if asked what morality is, your only response is meaningless subjectivity. This is unavoidable, under a materialist worldview, which inherently denies the existence of objectivity. If there is no God, there is no right and wrong. You say 'malleability', I say easy subversion; there's no difference. Without an objective, I can convince you over time to believe whatever I want, with enough social conditioning. There is no recourse for an atheist to resist this, as what authority do you have? Science™? Good luck with that. It's gone so well for the West.
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  10.  @timurtheterrible4062  Exactly the response I expected; ad hominems and a vague deferral to authority, before scooting off. So predictable.
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  11. ​ @jakubb9498 There is, if you extrapolate Marxist ideology to cultural issues. You replace the proletariat and bourgeoisie, with black and white people, for example. Indeed, it's technically not Marxist, but it is Marxist-derived.
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  12.  @Anonymous-sb9rr  And what evidence do you have to dispute His works?
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