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Comments by "『Strelitzia』" (@StrelitziaLiveries) on "This Video Shows What the F-35 Can Really Do, jaw-dropping maneuvers" video.
Russian planes are still way more maneuverable
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If you dont count that it got beaten by the f-16 also the existense of the Su-57
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Sorry for your losses but its a waste
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Keep in mind that the f35 lost in a dogfight against the f16 Also Su-37
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It fought against an f16 before and it lost
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@bradstrayer485 well you cant expect an sopwith camel to win against an ah-64D no matter how good the pilot is
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@martinw245 keep in mind that with maneuverability and high speed can easily defeat a missle at bvr therefore dogfights are usually unavoidable
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@martinw245 Martin W still an evading aircraft that has countermeasures jamming and maneuverability with speed would still draw the fight closer and closer no matter the missle and what missile are you talking about
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@martinw245 Martin W Martin W same stuff happened in the vietnam war "the missiles would do everything" they said "dogfighting is gone" they said when in reality most of their fights were fought close in thanks to the ability of enemies to evade and bad missiles yes todays missiles are better and so is the tech to defeat missiles and against the su57 the f35 has no chance of out dogfighting it since it has a better TWR and thrust vectoring with canards too also the su57 also features a helmet that can be used to fire off bore missiles most notably the r-73 or known as the AA-11 Archer also the su57 has the UOMZ 101KS Atoll electro-optical system which helps it on the awareness and countermeasures (go read about it to see what it contains)
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@martinw245 well i guess its not fair to compare a dedicated dogfighter against a multi role and the ability to have super maneuverability and off boresight missiles are a pretty great combination and dont go too relying on the off bore heat seekers since the su57 has defenses against it (look up its electro optical sensors), thrust vectoring just gives you that extra bit of control even when you are in a stall (post stall maneuvering) and keep in mind that sometimes dogfights are fought guns only if the two sides run out of missiles at the same time, also this maneuverability was able to be done by 4th generation russian aircraft and its nothing to be amazed at. Also take note that having thrust vectoring means relying on it, the su57 is still super maneuverable with or without the thrust vectoring
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@martinw245 well you make it sound so good that i thought i should compare to that and the f22 would be a fun fight but its up to the pilots to decide who would win that since they are on equal terms
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@martinw245 well su57 is a newer design with relatively better tech than the f22
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Cmon man....all fighter planes today have a gun
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Also the su-57
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And no this is below average in today's standards. Take a look at the Su-57 for an example
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@Chardon7 it actually did just search it up also no the f35 is pretty bad and pretty much a waste of money
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@sovietpineapple7938 also keep in mind that they dont usually fight alone (allies and enemies) and the direct missiles from other friendlies is pretty same thing as launching them except its already been launched so the evasion should be the same
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@sovietpineapple7938 not when its really far away and you have the speed maneuverability and countermeasures to deal with it
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@sovietpineapple7938 yes and no yes missiles are somewhat maneuverable but they would have a lower energy the farther the enemy is therefore the enemy has more wiggle room the farther it is also the enemy would also have BVR capabilities which makes the f35s go on the defensive at the same time and if the f35 and the thing its fighting is both stealthy it would be always in visual range combat which the su57 would have an advantage at since it has the IRST
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@sovietpineapple7938 theres alot of different and simple ways to defeat an aim120 that heavily stacks the odds to the evading side
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Alot of planes can do that today especially the russians
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@nailbirth4581 hell yeah
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@KjetilBalstad what im saying is that the su57 can maneuver better as in it has more agility i think that applies to it even if it has a full load and yes even in speed the su57 would have a better TWR meaning a better acceleration
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Well technically hes right this is pretty bland compared to todays fighters most notably the su57
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