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Comments by "John Smith" (@John_Smith_86) on "Being Black And Mixed-Race in China | Gen 跟 China" video.
Kinda your fault, really. You chose to go to Korea without prior research. Unless it was very long ago, a quick Google search would have informed you of your upcoming unpleasant experience.
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"Doesn't seem like a reasonable take on this racial issue. For literally thousands of years, it has been the accepted notion in China that these Blacks are inferior. In the absence of a sharp external environmental force, this cultural norm will almost certainly remain. You simply have to accept it for what it is, if you choose to be within China."
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Man, you are lucky as hell. The more typical name that would be applied to you within China is Black Ghost (literal translation). Black Pearl is incredibly nice.
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What nonsense. The entire Earth would be devoid of living conscious humans. Except maybe the mentally disabled.
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@mshoney9301 No... The very fact that you cannot understand that is a sign of your poor thinking. Actually, I think you have convinced me that you are not faking it. After all, the mainstream new media frequently reports on such extremists on both the left and the right. I think you sincerely cannot see an alternative to your particular way of thinking. Anything outside that is forbidden.
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@mshoney9301 Nah, people are entitled to be rude, subject to the consequences. And when the entire society chooses to be rude to you, there is little you can do. Don't go where you are unwelcomed
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@mshoney9301 And? We both expressed logical consistent positions based on our values. People have different values. You are the one missing the point in understanding this, not me. I consider the fault to be hers, due to her negligence
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@mshoney9301 I am aware I won't convince you. But anyway, she should really visit my home country Singapore instead. Unlike South Korea, the colour that matters to us is the colour of your money. We welcome foreigners with money, that is one of the more distinctive traits about our market-oriented economy
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@mshoney9301 Yea, as I said, I already gave up on you being a logical person, so it was more free text form. You people are crazy. Tsk tsk.
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@MayaMaya-tj7kw Your skin is naturally whiter, but turns darker with the infusion of UV exposure.
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@sepirophswife1072 It is ok if you are offended.
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@sepirophswife1072 I understand you are offended. That is ok.
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"For literally thousands of years, it has been the accepted notion in China that these Blacks are inferior. In the absence of a sharp external environmental force, this cultural norm will almost certainly remain. You simply have to accept it for what it is, if you choose to be within China."
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These Chinese people move for work, but it is separate from the racial notion that the Chinese race remains as the supreme race.
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@mshoney9301 You didn't understood that. So I would consider that missing the point.
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@mshoney9301 You didn't understand that we are simply coming from different viewpoints, which was why you thought I missed the point. When in reality, you missed this understanding.
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@mshoney9301 Are you trying for a Woke award or something? Because this is the internet, so that is kinda silly
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@mshoney9301 No, that is absolutely and literally not what I am asking. And you know very well that that is not. Basically, yea. I think you are faking it and just want a silly "Woke on Internet" award. So childish. Thought you were a proper person initially TLDR: Research your vacation spots before going, to have a pleasant experience
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@mshoney9301 I have been clear and direct in my communications. I expressed victim blaming, in that her conduct led to her unpleasant vacation (factual) and that she the victim bears blame in this (subjective opinion). I have been so blunt and direct, that your supposed misunderstanding can likely only be you faking it or you yourself are delusional.
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@mshoney9301 I suspect you of attempting to win Woke points, because I suspect you of faking it. If you simply expressed disagreement with my victim blaming and supported a more inclusive society, that is entirely acceptable. Faking it is not, in my eyes.
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@mshoney9301 I am fortunate in having had access to a science-oriented quality education. My college even had a required module in critical thinking specifically, aside from the normal engineering modules. I shudder at you people, both on the left and the right.
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@goldbluetears Yes, yes. And so?
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@yaemiko9280 Go away
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Er... in your case, you should try to have lighter skin, it is literally healthier if you are tanning due to excessive UV exposure as you said.
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Yea, but the thing is that they are agreeable to the racism to begin with. Their deflection was most likely out of courtesy to you.
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Er... Africa is not exactly in a position to refuse.
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The first 2 tiers are acceptable, i.e. Whites and Chinese. Bottom tier of blacks are rejected. That is how the racial structure is assigned.
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@mshoney9301 Yes, you are
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@mshoney9301 I disagree that victim blaming sucks. She had it coming.
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@mshoney9301 Er... victim blaming equals racism? Sigh. And here I thought you were making somewhat of a good faith effort. Guess you are just another childish extremist. (In my culture, we often victim blame robbery victims as having it coming too. You are either delusional or very unaware of other cultures)
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@goldbluetears Nah. We don't give a shit about what you think. It is not exactly as if Africans have the power to coerce significant change
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@goldbluetears Yes, there is quite a bit of trade. But it isn't exactly on terms as equals. Realistically, Africa has negligible influence and power. The outside world can do as it wishes
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@motolomalatse8641 Sure, that is indeed a view that many people enjoy holding. But you and I know that while enjoyable, it is not true.
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@Morgen Into what? Somebody unable to think logically? If you go to a hyper racist country, you will encounter racism.
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@Bono-nm5qx Hmm. You are just a idiot. No getting around that
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@Bono-nm5qx Nah. I was just mirroring your nonsense comment, that is all.
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@Bbyluvusa Nah, I enjoy being so. Why else would I behave so?
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@coriolisky What foolishness. If you stick your head into a lion's mouth, you should entirely expect something. The ability to judge and anticipate a situation is a human skill. People are entitled to be rude, this is a basic human right. It is a separate issue from mutual cooperation by consenting adults. It is a pity that you lack the ability to understand such a distinction.
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@coriolisky People are allowed to be not nice to others. This is a fundamental human right of existence. You do not have the power to force others to be nice to you, nor should you.
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@amer_767ab8 The difference between the two parties is that the Koreans were on their homeland, whereas she is an intruder. Therefore, I fault her for her misconduct while am accepting of the Koreans.
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Well, you really shouldn't be proud.
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Doesn't seem like a reasonable take on this racial issue. For literally thousands of years, it has been the accepted notion in China that these Blacks are inferior. In the absence of a sharp external environmental force, this cultural norm will almost certainly remain. You simply have to accept it for what it is, if you choose to be within China.
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As for those Chinese women who select Black partners, it is natural and normal that their countrymen are highly hostile to them. Someone who so sharply steps out of their societal and cultural norms are to be suspected, in such a collectivist culture.
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@sepirophswife1072 Correct, that is because within the Chinese cultural context, Whites are seen as being of quality, whereas Blacks are seen as an inferior people. Therefore, what is acceptable for one race to do is unacceptable for another race to do, in the eyes of these Chinese people. Wrong, that is what I am explaining. This discrimination against dark colouration existed prior to modern contact with the western world. It was from ancient times.
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@sepirophswife1072 The Holocaust was rather unusual though. It was literally a unique event in human history. Correct. The Ukrainians should accept that the Russians want their land. And either they hand it over meekly, or they fight. Nah. If the discrimination is for a logical valid reason, then you should be calm and accepting of it. If you are a Black and the employer is not allowed to ask if you went to prison, then logically he should suspect you. This is how statistical discrimination works. You use mathematics to make better decisions.
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@sepirophswife1072 Some people are more racist, some people are less racist. Some people are more easily offended, some are less easily offended. We all have our personal views and thoughts.
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@sepirophswife1072 I am explaining that racism can be because of good and valid reasons. Racism need not be simply because of pure hatred. It can be to improve economic efficiency, to improve your own personal lives, to reduce the chances of a bad tenant, a employee who will steal from you. Statistical discrimination allows you to lead a better life. Don't you want to lead a better life?
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@sepirophswife1072 I disagree. The discrimination against Blacks are for good and valid reasons, and not "weird". We wanna make money and be rich. Discrimination against Blacks is part of that
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@sepirophswife1072 It may or may not be offensive. But it is ok to offend Black people. Sure, if one day Chinese tourists become polite, then we should assume that Chinese tourists are polite. And if one day Black people are high in SES and income, then we should assume that Black people are high in SES and income. If reality changes, our opinions should change. But for now, let's discriminate against Black people.
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@sepirophswife1072 Understood
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@lindyashford7744 Sure, the ancient Chinese generally had little knowledge of Black people. My point was that Black people are inferior due to the colour of their skin, as the colour Black is deemed inferior. Actual awareness that Black people exist is not necessary. It is a colouration thing.
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@lindyashford7744 Oh, ignore the quote marks, my bad for that Yes, since your Chinese community was so small, perhaps you lost touch with your heritage
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@lindyashford7744 Oh wait. I misunderstood your comment, you phrased it a bit confusing for me. Yes, those Chinese may have been more polite. Or it is possible that their forefathers left China so many years ago that they merged into their host culture and therefore do not retain such a position anymore
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Lolz. Without their foreign aid, how are you even going to survive? Not to mention foreign trade.
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Lolz
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Asians say aloud the ugly feelings that others conceal within.
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I mean, if you joined the beauty pageant as a Black in the Philippines, you should be mocked for the lack of common sense.
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The colouration in and of itself is the concern.
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@Ok-oo2kh Correct
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I wonder whether there is a misunderstanding by you. Are you sure she didn't mean that as a inferior, Africa is naturally subject to domination by China? Because to claim that Africa already is existingly under China's domination is rather incorrect.
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@t301CAN seeing your obviously retarded comment is cracking me up
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Your continent is a unique case due to the natives being exterminated.
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Do you present as Black? If you do, then yes, you should be nervous. You are quite likely to have several unpleasant experiences. I am racially Chinese.
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Yes, it does
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Well, we dare because it is our right to discriminate against you? Duh. As in we each have our freedom and liberty. And our people just don't like your sort very much. It is not exactly a complicated sentiment, is it? (Although I am racially Chinese, I am not from China though. And the community I reside in does not look up to Whites, as they do in China. We basically look down on every other human. Just to clarify)
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