Comments by "Digital Footballer" (@digitalfootballer9032) on "Tucker speaks to founder of company designed to sway people away from college" video.

I am an accountant and have hundreds of clients of all walks of life and professions. I will tell you the professions of the several of my highest wage earning clients. Superintendent of Schools (requires college), Highway Superintendent (does not require college), Car salesman (does not require college), Collection agent (does not require college) Residential Construction (does not require college) Physician Assistant (requires college), Information Technology products salesman (does not require college, only product training). Yes that's right, the majority of my highest earning clients are not college graduates. Not in the top top earners, but fairly high also is a Diesel mechanic client of mine, who makes well over $100K a year. These people all make more than me and I have a Master's degree. I am not saying you CAN'T make high wages with a college degree, just that you CAN without one, and in the right field and with the right skills can often do better.
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@jgroovy1973 I went, and graduated, and later went back and completed a graduate program. Complete waste of time. I have a job now that requires zero college and I work less and earn more. I have a friend who got an MBA that works in a cubicle making average at best wages and is miserable. To be honest, I would have never bothered with my Masters degree, but my former company paid for it so I figured why not. It was a waste of time, but at least it didn't cost me anything.
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@Nron2000 I will say college was alot of fun and I made most of my life long friends there. From a social perspective it was valuable. Undergraduate wasn't a total waste, I did learn some valuable things there. In fact, I learned the most at community college. It may sound like it, but I am not completely knocking college. There are positives and negatives just like anything else. I am just stressing that it isn't the end all be all. It isn't a requirement for success. Yes I am glad I went for the experience, but life's experience led me to a path that has been much better that never would have required college in the first place. Ironically, I got the job through an old college buddy. So I didn't need college for the job, yet never would have even considered the job had I not known that guy, who I knew from college. Life is funny like that sometimes.
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College is expensive because an entire generation of people has been programmed to believe they "have to have it" to get anywhere in life. Hence, they will pay anything, because they think they will easily pay it off with all the vast wealth that magic degree will create for them down the road. As I've mentioned elsewhere in this comment section, I have a college education, and I ended up quitting the job I had that required a college degree. Now I have a job that requires no college, and I make more money and work less hours, and do a job I actually like.
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I quit my job that required a college degree, now work a job that requires only a high school education and a basic training program that is the equivalent of about a 3 credit hour college class, and I make more money and am happier.
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Ivy league schools are basically like giant networking events. It's name value. It's driving a BMW for the badge on the hood when a Chevy will get you to where you are going just as well. Yes, that BMW badge, or Harvard degree might get you noticed and open up a door you may not have had otherwise, but at what expense? Nothing is guaranteed. A friend of mine who has a 4-year state school degree that took him 5 years and he passed by the skin of his teeth with a "C" average makes more money now than practically everyone else I know combined. Why? Because he just happened to meet the right guy, who was starting up a niche business, that took off like a rocket, and my friend got in on the ground floor, made a few big sales early on, and is getting paid big commissions in perpetuity on those accounts. Yes, he is an exception to the rule. But more often you hear of the people who spend hundreds of thousands to get that "big name" University degree that don't amount to any more than that other person who went to community college, but now they are strapped with big debt for many years to come, and the community college graduate paid off his student expenses in a few years.
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expatriate I work for a small business. My boss is not a billionaire. My pay is based on output and revenue, so if I get "shitty" pay the only person I have to blame is myself. When I worked for several big companies you got rewarded for busting your butt with a 3% raise, and unpaid overtime when they promoted you to a "salaried" position that paid about $5K more a year but required you to work practically double the hours. Now I work about half the hours I used to work for about the same money annually. Why? Because I am good at my job. The people who are not good bring home less than half as much as I do. At the big corporations, the bad employees got a 2% raise instead of 3%, and stayed in hourly positions and raked in overtime pay.
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@DadzillaGaming Exactly. The "mob" here on this comment board only knows what they are programmed to think. That is "I am smart because I went to college you are stupid because you didn't". Hate to tell them, but college doesn't make you smart, not even the good ones (which are few and far between). If you are smart to begin with, and are fortunate to find a good school, and not only a good school, but good instructors, you can enrich what you already have. An idiot isn't going to go there and magically become smart, nor is a smart person going to become an idiot by not going. I've done all levels of higher education except for doctorate. And speaking from experience, they get dumber, and more political the further you progress. I learned by far the most at community college. University was basically filler. Graduate school was basically a political seminar on the wonders of John Maynard Keynes (I majored in economics). What a complete waste.
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Ironically also, the most valuable learning I had at college came from two adjuncts that weren't even actual professors by trade, they were businessmen who taught part time at community college. They had the real world experience and actually the best personalities and made learning business fun and interesting. All the PhDs I had as instructors were boring, scripted, and half the time just let their assistants do all the work, with the exception of one guy who was a sociology professor I took an elective class from who was very passionate about his teaching.
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And since we are talking about dropouts, and sales, I have a friend who is a college dropout, who cleared $250K last year working in sales ($266K to be exact). I know because I do his taxes 😉
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@Bytor 1001 Hillary Clinton : 93% of chance of winning according to polls. Oops.
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expatriate Dropout you say? I have a Bachelors in finance and a Masters in economics. Both completed. Both degrees I could just as well use as toilet paper. Excuses you say? Well, a standard full time employee works about 2,000 hours a year (52 weeks x 40 hours, less 2 weeks vacation). As a salaried manager I worked closer to 3,000 hours a year for maybe about 10% more pay. Now I work about 1,000 to 1,200 a year and make what I did as a corporate "specialist" (entry level management), and no college is required for my job, as pay is production based. And no, it is not in sales.
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My best friend from college now has a job as an IT manager for a large, well known company, and does very well. He has a music degree. Completely self taught on computers. But just a wicked smart guy in general. Almost unheard of for someone to get to his level with a formal education in the field, but it does happen from time to time.
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Learn a trade, or take non-college training classes for a variety of professions such as sales, tax preparation, insurance, or many other "white collar" professions that don't actually require college. If you really feel you must go, go to community college. I learned much more there than I did in years 3 and 4 at University, as well as in my graduate program. Funny now I do taxes and not only have earnings equal or better (depending on how well I do in a particular season) than in my "college required" jobs of the past, but I like the job better, and work less hours annually (I work a ton January to April, then very minimally the rest of the year). And I could have got this job with no college and just a few training courses that are equivalent to maybe 9 college credit hours. Yeah, I was exempt from having to take the classes because of my accounting background, but I took 160 credit hours only to find myself better off in a job that requires only the equivalent of 9.
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expatriate I know lots of guys. I'm Disco Stu. And of course everyone knows me. Seriously though you really need to try harder. You aren't even a good troll. You just sound like an angry idiot in mommy's basement. At least put some effort into your trolling.
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And FYI for all of you poo-pooing tradesmen. My two highest wage earning clients at my accounting firm are a car salesman and an independent residential construction worker. Both have had years they made near $400K. Neither went to college. And the car salesman dabbles in day trading on the side and made a couple hundred grand extra on top of his sales earnings last year during the stock market boom. This "uneducated idiot" knows more about the market than any financial services professional I know, and in my field I know quite a few. I talked to him for over an hour about it and it was very interesting. And if you met this dude, you would never know he is making bank, more than any of us, or anyone you probably know. A personality and appearance of a complete regular blue collar working schmoe. Yet I know "highly educated" idiots that have menial low paying jobs sitting in cubicles that drive around in BMWs and eat peanut butter sandwiches every night for dinner because they are broke and spend all their money on "looking good". My man there drove a Hyundai. And he told me about how he is planning to retire at 35.
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Agree, except for business. I went to school for business and have learned much more through job experience than I did in school. I will say though that I did learn a decent amount in community college. University was mostly just filler. My big senior year report was writing a term paper on the annual report of a Fortune 500 company. What that achieved for me I still don't know. I couldn't even tell you now what that report was about. But I still to this day quote some of the laws I learned in Business Law 200 at community college. Graduate school was even more useless. I majored in economics and it was just alot of theoretical crap, and very heavy on the John Maynard Keynes. I was given lousy grades on most of my work because I took an opposing viewpoint (monetarist policy/Austrian School). It was more politically oriented than informative.
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Well it wasn't a complete waste. The parties were fun. And there were lots of nice looking girls. But of course this was back in the 90's when college kids still partied, and young men could actually talk to young women without getting labeled as some sort of predator.
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@fzrniko lol, my friend got his MBA and bragged to everyone about how he was going to be a big corporate officer at his company. Yeah, he got canned a few months later and now makes sales calls in a cubicle for about $30K a year. I manage an accounting and tax office. Yeah, I actually have a Master's degree as well, mine in economics, but that's not what got me the job. I quit my old job and started at the bottom at my current company, which required zero college and didn't care that I had college, and started me off at the same lousy wage as everyone else. Two years in and I am running a location. Been doing that now for another two years. Got there because I am good at what I do, not because of some piece of paper. One of our other managers who has a higher volume location and makes quite a bit more than me has a high school diploma, that's it. Maybe if my big shot friend who got his master's before anyone else I know did gets canned again, he can come work for me. Maybe your son can too. We start at $15 an hour. No extra pay for college degrees. Interested? Probably a better way to pay off those big student loans than serving coffee at Starbucks for $9.50 an hour.
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Tucker, Hannity, and others on Fox news are opinion journalists. They are marketed as such. Nobody tries to deceive viewers and brand them falsely as hard news. They themselves often say they are opinion journalists. However, opinion journalists like Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo, and others over at CNN are branded by CNN as "anchors" (check their website, that is what it says), and that of course is blatantly false and misleading.
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