Comments by "Boarface Swinejaw" (@boarfaceswinejaw4516) on "How Anti-Immigration Went Mainstream: Normalising the Sweden Democrats - TLDR News" video.

  1. its worth noting that their rise to relevance came as a result of the immigration crisis a few years back, where left wing politicians and whatnot went full moron and decided to concede on very easy positions in the name of appearing virtuous and noble. By giving SD and immigration-critical parties the proverbial monopoly on truth or at least half-truths they allowed those parties to rise far more prominence as a result. a wound that which stuck to swedish politics for quite a while as it got more reactionary. However, this has resulted in hefty changes in all of the political parties, as SD has had to clean out its party and go further left (into center, more left on certain economic issues) to appeal to people and be seen as less of a "one issue" party, and the other more extreme right wing parties sort of fell back down somewhat. likewise the establishment parties have had to concede on certain points and take more "right wing" positions on matters of immigration. So the prominent idea that this was a case of "far right populism, surging through sweden" is dumb. The system works as intended for once. People are being heard by engaging in the multi-party politics, and issues are as a result brought forward through popular votes. We'll likely never see a swedish democrat government, and by the time we do it will look nothing like the party once did 5-6 years back.
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  2.  @peterpalmato467  except every refugee costs a lot of money, and housing and integrating them is important or else you wind up with not only a financial burden but potentially a social and at worst, criminal one. i say this as a person who is very much left wing. we have to acknowledge the reality of immigration, the pros and cons, or we'll wind up with the same sort of situation as we did during the refugee crisis where the truth was conceded to far right populists who, as a result, could spin half-truths and derail the topic completely.
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  3.  @southwestsaxon  Because borders protect economies and infrastructures and allow smaller populations more control over their laws, culture and customs. besides, calling all europeans "white" when they cover such a vast array of ethnicities and skin colours is dumb, and makes it sound like you're trolling.
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  4. sweden has always been very much pro autonomy and freedom from the EU. i wouldnt call it eurosceptic as much as euro-cautious.
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  5. what makes SD far right is their history of relying on bad eggs to fill their ranks. its hard to maintain the idea that you're "moderate and just critical of immigration" when you got skinheads in the party talking about cracking the head of *insert miniority*. and thats without mentioning the swathes of women who had been in the party for a long time, only to leave when the culture of abuse and enforced discretion became a bit much. SD as a party suffered a lot of growing pains, and its slowly becoming more center and "normalized" in a way. but it goes without saying that had it not been for Jimmie Åkesson the party would have gone the way of the dodo a long time ago.
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  6.  @editorrbr2107  "literal death of cities" you say that, but Malmö is one of the fastest growing cities economically and in terms of living standards. there are problematic elements that are in many ways resultant of immigration its nowhere near as bad as people are saying it is. contrary to what the "grenade attacks" covering would have you believe, people from all over the economic, racial and cultural spectrum are moving there. You people make it sound like Detroit. the difference is that rich people, celebrities and influencial people arent moving into detroit. but Malmö is still a cultural hotspot. far from a dead city.
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  7.  @victorm6430  as much as swexit would be an utter disaster (just look at the failures of brexit), at least we have a somewhat stronger self-reliance in terms of resources.
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  8.  @comrade3909  small time businesses are on the verge of being demolished. small time farmers are being forced to sell their land, fisheries are closing and pig farmers are culling massive amounts of healthy livestock. you say "you have to wait 10-15 years", but just look at the amount of damage done in less than two years, and there is no indication that UK will be able to recover in any good way. The EU and its nations was one of the UK's primary trading partners, but also vacation and tourist partners, political partners, hell, scientific partners. Now the UK might as well be Peru. Cargo ships pass by the UK and go directly to ireland, the US or europe, passing the UK. European lorry drivers dont want to go the UK because its such a hassle with so few benefits. and its only a question of time before the tories start demolishing the NHS.
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  9.  @Javahc1  oh i get that, but i meant in the racial context of how "modern people" tend to view race aka "black white asian arab" etc which is dishonest considering how vastly different the many ethnicities are.
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  10.  @physiocrat7143  the EU is the UK's largest trading partner and the UK has been consistently reliant on an economy it built up through trade, tourism and other commerce with the EU. with brexit, or more specificly, hard brexit, the UK not only severed the ties and burnt the bridges but complicated its own abilities to maintain its own economy. You cant just aggressively downsize and economy and hope it sorts itself out. pig farmers have to cull massive amounts of livestock and fishermen are on sucide watch because their industries went from struggling to destroyed in a single move by Bojo the clown. And thats without going into how brexiteers didnt consider for a second the actual logistics of how their sovereignty would work. take the fishing situation as an example. Fishermen from denmark, france and spain go to british waters to fish because some of the best fish exist in those waters. Now the obvious and immediate reaction to that fact is "well, its british waters. british waters for british fishermen. tally ho". and so Bojo and the brexiteers sought to set out some harsh lines in the sand against EU fishermen. but here is the logistical issue: Fish dont have borders, Fish reproduce and lay their eggs in waters closer to the EU countries, before being born, becoming adults and migrating to british waters. what this means is that the only reason fish in UK waters are larger and healthier is because EU fishermen actively seek to avoid fishing in their own waters to make sure the harvest is greater for everyone. and this really is the perfect analogy for the failures of brexit. So much of UK's wealth is dependant on resources they can only really utilize and have access to as long as they are in close relationship and working in tandem with other neighbouring countries. With brexit the UK severed many of those ties, and in order to get even a semblance of the old stability back the UK has to accept humiliating trade deals which, in some instances, are far worse than those they previously had. You're the one who knows dangerously little about how economy and trade works, thinking this is the middle ages where a century of plague and famine is a good thing because by the end of it you'll have less peasants and thus more bargaining power. you cant just go around and blame remainers all the time when the people who are supposedly on your side keep fucking up and neglecting their duties, mishandling every situation that lands in their lap. Nigel Farage, Ukip, the brexit party, Boris Johnson, Theresa May, Lord frost, Miss truss, after a while you just have to accept that if every brexit politician you got is a moron, maybe brexit itself is moronic.
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  11.  @ianjehle  oh thats definitely part of it. destabilization of the middle east is definitely at the center of the whole debacle. if there was no war on terror there wouldnt be waves of migrants making their way into europe, and thats definitely an aspect that has been ignored. but the failure of left wing politicians to properly tackle the topic in an intellectually honest manner did allow for right wing politics to grow a stronger foothold.
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