Comments by "Boarface Swinejaw" (@boarfaceswinejaw4516) on "Is Putin Right About Nato's Eastward Expansion? - TLDR News" video.
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whats important to remember about this whole "west vs east, the US vs Russian influence in europe" is the actual individual sovereign nations of europe. countries that join NATO or the EU do so out of their own free will. it was their choice, and if they want to utilize the same type of military exercises that made other NATO nation militaries formidable, within their borders, then that is their right.
I remember when Russia set out demands, lines on the map, for how far american and NATO warplanes and military exercises were allowed to go into europe (weeks before the invasion of ukraine). what struck me as befuddlingly bizarre was that the line went from the top of sweden down to the bottom of sweden.
Not only was sweden treated as non-existant territory not belonging to a country with the ability to make its own decisions, but finland was disgarded completely.
Thats how Russia views europe, thats how Russia views the world. as territories, and if your country isnt large enough you dont even get the courtesy of having your governments thoughts and considerations heard, nevertheless even respected.
and that is why NATO expands east, because no country (except Belarus and Serbia) wants anything to do with Russia and their bullshit.
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@vtheman1850
"many nations opt out of liberal democracy"
No, nations have their hands forced out of democracy, usually lured by strongmen into making away with the rights and values that gave them the right to vote for the man in the first place. and before you know it, your country has become the wehrmacht or imperial japan, waging war on its neighbours in the name of some lost glory.
A vanity project by your "glorious" leaders whos delusions of grandeur will render your cities to rubble, your monuments to ash, and your people to corpses.
Germany during ww2 was not a democracy, it "opted out" of that democracy, and it lead them to years of brutal warfare followed by soviet oppression (in the east).
Ask the same germans if they'd be ever willing to do away with democracy again and they'll tell you otherwise.
The failures of american democracy are born out of the fact that the US is an absolutely gargantuan country, but with weird and sometimes corrupt laws that are put in place specifically to tailor political outcomes to favor specific groups of people. from historical voter suppression to frauds. to act as if all democracies are the same is absurd.
And Zelensky's administration is not perfect, but to act as if his administration is no different from the government that came before it would be an absolute lie born from the fever dreams of a panicked putin sycophant, desperate to pretend that a man chosen by the majority of his people is no different from the foreign dictator currently killing those people.
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@vtheman1850
Sweden, Finland and Ukraine and many countries like them chose to not join NATO. Because they chose, as sovereign countries, to be neutral, to be amicable, to be a bridge between the west and the east.
Putin, in one fell swoop, ended that. He burnt the bridge, and forced countries that had made the choice to be Neutral to no longer be Neutral. Before 2022, the EU had only lost member countries.
Now, Georgia, Ukraine and Moldova are clamoring for EU memberships.
You can lie all you want, try to paint some picture about how irrelevant europe is, and how we all need to abandon the "treacherous" US and embrace Putin as our protector in Europe.
Well, look at his armies. Soon a month will pass and Ukraine still stands. Ukraine, the one country that stood alone, still trying to mend relations with Russia, has withstood Russia's invasion. Not even the army of Belarus wants to fight for russia, despite being a puppet state, because Belarusians do not want to kill their neighbours in the name of Putin.
If the EU was truly was worthless and unimportant on the global stage as you try to frame it as, why does Russia, China and the US choose europe as stage worth fighting for? why does the EU accrue more candidates to join its union? why does Russia struggle against a single country, whilst at the same time threatening the rest of europe with retaliation for aiding Ukraine, a lone and "weak" country whos capital and leader still stands?
The Ukrainians are paying a price they are willing to pay, for something they've fought for since they first became a country, and something they've fought for since 2014. A free Ukraine.
To people like you, fighting for your country against an invader who wants to drape your homeland with the veil of USSR style economic mismanagement and oppression might seem dumb, but for Ukrainians, its worth risking your life to fight against that.
Slava ukraini, and go fuck yourself.
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@hieudominh4113
Make no mistake, the US has a track record that would make China look comparatively gentle.
disruption of democracy and freedom in latin america, resulting in the birth of fascist and communist dictatorships, the destabilization of middle eastern countries, which is without mentioning their actions in Vietnam (which were hypocritical) and balkans (which is why Serbia is pro russia).
I am under no illusion as to the intentions of the US, but the fact that the US is ostensibly a democracy with two major parties, whereas Russia and China are in contrast countries with only one party really allowed speaks volumes as to the difference.
Its clear that Russia, in its eternal goal to expand its territory to "defend" its territory is on a track heading off a cliff, and Ukraine was that cliff. They dont want to restore the soviet union, obviously, but Putin wants to restore imperial borders, and whether his intentions are defensive he is going by the conquerers playbook.
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