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Comments by "TeeKay" (@teekay_1) on "Recruiter's Post Goes Viral For All Of The Wrong Reasons - Salary Negotiation Tips" video.
@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel Which is shortsighted. One person with a lot of experience can do the work of two or three minimally qualified people.
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@kelf114 That's not actually what he/she said. Nobody really does deserve a salary just because they apply for a job. A college degree doesn't mandate a salary, experience doesn't mandate a salary. The interview and resume serve two purposes, you're trying to convince an employer that you're worth more than they're willing to pay you. And second, the company should be trying to convince you they're worth working for, and that your time will be well spent with them. This is especially true of small companies, which have a budget, not a salary range.
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@whoar-u1771 If you have an in-demand skill, as you say, you are in control. Know the range.
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@odetochef It's not morality that gets you a job, it's your skills, experience, and how you present yourself in an interview that gets you a job. And part of getting a good job is spending 15-20 minutes to research the company, and asking the recruiter what the position pays. If they won't tell you, then move on to the next opportunity. It's a great time to be looking for a job. You're in control right now. Take advantage of it.
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@aeow8859 That's all I'm saying. As a hiring manager, it doesn't do me any good if the candidate wants $500K and I can only offer $80K. When that happens and I involve 3 people in an interview and then there is a significant mismatch on the salary, it was a waste of time, and I'm highly critical of the recruiter, and I let their boss know they failed to do their job.
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It's hard to understand why this should be mandated. At a minimum, ask "what's the salary range for the position?". At worst, say "negotiable". There are two ways to go about this... If you have the experience to make the salary stick, then you are probably pretty knowledgeable about what you are worth, and they'll negotiate with you. If you really are not that experienced, then spend 4 hours checking salary ranges for your experience, the position, and the city where you'll work. That doesn't seem like too much work if it involved 10's of thousands of dollars potentially.
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@odetochef haha no. A hiring manager. But it is true that no one is entitled to a position or salary. It's also true that you have to save the company the cost of your salary or generate income that's the cost of you salary, otherwise, why would anyone hire you?
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@maxscott3349 That's a way to do it too. Another way is to work through recruiter.
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@NoMementoMori A couple things here.... I've always negotiated my own salary because I've taken my profession seriously and in general, I expect to be paid at least 25% more than others in a similar role. I end up working harder/longer and getting more responsibility than other because I want to be the go-to guy. Second, at a certain point, you have to take change of your life and career. Maybe there aren't great jobs in your field that give you leverage. Go to night school. Maybe your geographic location doesn't provide you the opportunity you need. Move. Maybe you need to improve your interviewing skills. But do an honest self-assessment, be realistic about your weaknesses and improve them. You are the captain of your ship.
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@NoMementoMori I don't need to know anyone else's salary. In fact, I'm uninterested in other people's salary. I know my worth, if the recruiter won't tell me the range, I simply don't interview with them. I let them know why. It sounds like you have no skills, no understanding of market price for your profession, or you don't have confidence in yourself. That's not a society problem, that's a "you" problem.
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