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@MoeHamHead-bx7og According to your books, all Pol Pot had wanted was to overthrow Sihanouk, but Vietnam didn't support it and so he hated Vietnam for that, so how t fcan you say Vietnam supported him?! Vietnam supported Sihanouk, not Pol Pot! You see? Apparently you don't understand your own books!
Other part of your citing described a brief period of 1970 after Sihanouk was overthrown by the US. That was the only period when there was some cooperation between Vietnam and Pol Pot's KR. Vietnam did that because Lon Nol, after overthrowing of Sihanouk, had joined forces with the US and the Saigon regime to conduct large scale operations into VCs controlled areas in Cambodia. The Vietnamese fought back, seized territories, and and gave some of them back to the KR to free up their forces for other offensive missions in South Vietnam. If this is what you called 'supporting the KR', the US was the one who forced it!
The US' overthrowing of Sihanouk, bombing and invasion of Cambodia in 1970s helped destabilize Cambodia and fill the rank of the KR and made them a formidable force which they weren't before.
The relation between Vietnam and the KR turned bad quickly afterwards because Pol Pot had never trusted Vietnam. He wanted Vietnam's help but when they got close he was afraid of being controlled! So there were clashes soon after. He jailed remaining Vietnamese trained cadres and executed them all by 1973. So, Vietnam didn't support Pol Pot up until he started invading and killing Vietnamese after 1975 as you said.
Anyway, the real evil here is the US' and China's support of the KR and Pol Pot AFTER THE GENOCIDE.
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@HelloWorld-f5m Look for the biography of Pol Pot on Wikipedia and read it. Pol Pot, not the Khmer Rouge, was the problem. He and Vietnam didn't like each other from the get go because he wanted an armed struggle against Sihanouk while Vietnam didn't.
The Khmer communist party before Pol Pot was part of the Viet Minh in the fighting against the French. THAT WAS WHEN VIETNAM REALLY SUPPORTED IT.
After the the French surrendered at Dien Bien Phu and had to leave, France and Vietnam signed the Geneva Accords in 1954 in which they agreed that Laos and Cambodia would remain neutral. Sihanouk became the leader of Cambodia. Vietnam couldn't violate the Accords, so that' was why she didn't support the Khmer Rouge's armed resistance against him.
Following that, the Khmer communists were almost disbanded. That created a power vacuum that Pol Pot and his gangs who were Cambodians coming back from France gradually seized the leadership. He then asked for support from Vietnam to topple Sihanouk a few times but was refused every time. So there was no support for the KR from Vietnam here so that why he hated Vietnam so much.
Then Sihanouk, although officially neutral, passively allowed the VCs to build their bases in east Cambodia when the war in Vietnam started brewing up, so Vietnam had more reason not to disturb the status quo. In fact, because of that reason, The Saigon regime had tried to assassinate Sihanouk but failed.
So then the CIA supported Lon Nol to overthrow him in 1970. Right after that , Lon Non coordinated with the US and Saigon regime conducted a large scale operation into east Cambodia to destroy the VC bases.
This action then brought the Khmer Rouge and Vietnam together, but still they weren't really allies and you cannot blame Vietnam for this because the US-backed Lon Nol's coup and US bombing of Cambodia caused it! But still, The Vietnamese had also refused to give arms to Pol Pot when asked. They chose to fight the Lon Nol, Saigon regime and the US forces by themselves and handed some of the territories deeper inside Cambodia over to the Khmer Rouge as buffer zone while they held onto the area bordering Vietnam.
This friendliness, if you can call it that, didn't last long. By early 1972, relations between the Khmer Rouge and the Vietnamese were becoming strained and some violent clashes had broken out.
So for the whole time, Vietnam had only really supported the KR in the early 1950s. After 1954, their relation was mostly cold. The Vietnamese had tried to brought them back into their fold when it relative warmed up in 1970 because there was still some Vietnamese trained cadres left, But in 1973, Pol Pot ordered the internment of them and executed them all later. The relation become ice cold afterwards, so you can't say Vietnam supported the KR up until 1975. In fact, Pol Pot was mad at Vietnam the whole time exactly because she didn't supported him in overthrowing Sihanouk!
All your excerpts only show things happened in the relatively brief warm period of 1970. They aren't proof that Vietnam had supported the KR up until 1975.
Also in the mid 1960s, following Mao, Pol Pot denounced Khrushchev and went to China to study their communist way and inspired by China's Cultural Revolution. That period gave him the idea of how to create his utopia later.
He was incompatible with Vietnam in many way, and openly acted against Vietnam, so the idea of Vietnam supporting him is ludicrous
Again do read his bio on Wikipedia to learn some history before openlng y0ur m0uth!.
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