Comments by "John D" (@johnd8892) on "American Reacts to Ford Falcon Cobra | Targa Tasmania" video.

  1. Correction to Peter Brock mention around 10:30 . Was in Western Australia. The event where Peter Brock made his fatal error was Targa West. This other Targa was a Western Australia attempt at replicating the success of Targa Tasmania with a similar event but on worse roads. Although Targa Tasmania has had too many fatalities also.
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  2. Cobras standard 302 but optional 351 which this one runs like.
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  3. From Wikipedia The first 200 Cobras produced were given the 5.8L 351 Cleveland V8, while the other 200 received the 4.9L 302 Cleveland ... the only exceptions to this being build number 001 is a 302ci (4.9 litre) V8 and build number 351 is a 351ci (5.8 litre) V8.
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  4.  @johncunningham4820  surprised the engined cast st Geelong for a long period are less well known. Detail in this Wikipedia in the Australian section the Australian only 302 Cleveland based engine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine
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  5. In the last year's of Falcon production Ford did close to zero advertising for Falcon but lots for Mondeo. Hoping we would all take up the late Mondeo that was Falcon size but front wheel drive. A major company sharing my office building around 2014 went all Mondeo for its fleet, so must have got a good deal on them. Ford expecting as much sales share as the US model labelled the Ford Fusion.
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  6. No. Targa West near Perth.
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  7. Although Peter Brock died driving in Targa West near Perth. This was got wrong by Ian and quite a few of the comments.
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  8. Just 400 Cobras built. Half 302 rest 351. Probably more now with all the clones. This possibly one as the originals are too expensive to race, even the fake clones get exxy.
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  9. Surprising how many get this wrong. Thanks for the details that may convince them.
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  10.  @danesorensen1775  thanks. Interesting history. I now remember the Landau making the step up to the then new four wheel disc brakes but did not know of the extra motive. A story from my family. In the early seventies my father bought an ex Navy International Harvester light truck/ute. Surprised me that this came fitted with four wheel disc brakes. PBR I recall. Not sure if this was just navy spec or standard. Perhaps the first Australian made vehicle with four wheel discs. Perhaps more for fade resistance than rapid stopping given the primitive truck suspension.
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  11. The mosiac choices at the end. The one with most information is just past your right shoulder with the smiling suit and tie guy .
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  12. Forty years of experience on how to get them working better applied to this one. Better than new.
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  13.  @theghost6412  may be just painted to look like a Cobra, but even then still worth a lot. I doubt many of the six cylinder ones have not been converted to a hi po version.
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  14. From Wikipedia The first 200 Cobras produced were given the 5.8L 351 Cleveland V8, while the other 200 received the 4.9L 302 Cleveland ... the only exceptions to this being build number 001 is a 302ci (4.9 litre) V8 and build number 351 is a 351ci (5.8 litre) V8.
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  15. Both 302 and 351 From Wikipedia The first 200 Cobras produced were given the 5.8L 351 Cleveland V8, while the other 200 received the 4.9L 302 Cleveland ... the only exceptions to this being build number 001 is a 302ci (4.9 litre) V8 and build number 351 is a 351ci (5.8 litre) V8.
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  16. Mostly just corporate styling in common. When it comes down to parts lots of the overseas parts do not fit. XD Falcon only shared the headlights with the Euro Granada although similar styling.
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  17. But with forty years of knowledge how to modify them to the extreme.
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  18. 1960 XK Falcon here started with the US 144 six of about 80 HP. Then 170 option was a big deal. Later 221 then much later the 200 and 250 sixes were the most purchased cars. 289 V8 option from the 1967 XR then later the 302 and 351 became the choices for many years. V8 sales peaked at just 30% of Falcon cars in 1972. Different story about the ones worth keeping.
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  19. Falcon XK and XL story https://youtu.be/x6JhdxJKsQI Especially from about 2 minutes in.
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  20. I would say 351 Australian cast Cleveland by that stage. From Wikipedia The first 200 Cobras produced were given the 5.8L 351 Cleveland V8, while the other 200 received the 4.9L 302 Cleveland ... the only exceptions to this being build number 001 is a 302ci (4.9 litre) V8 and build number 351 is a 351ci (5.8 litre) V8.
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  21. The 65 model Valiant Regal had the V8 option first here. Although Australian assembled Fords had V8 car models every year back to the thirties. Chevrolet locally took until 1960 to have V8.
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  22. Some 383 390 and 400 full size cars.. There were locally assembled Ford Galaxie and Galaxie/LTD from the Homebush assembly plant using Canadian parts. From about 1965 to 1971. The big engines in these were 390 and 400 V8s. Favoured choice of Government state Premiers at the time. Dodge Phoenix a similar story getting up to the 383. All Luxo barges.
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  23. ,351 Cleveland from the 335 series Ford design. From Wikipedia In November 1971, Ford of Australia began to manufacture the 335-series V8 locally at the Geelong engine plant. They produced both the 351C-2V and 351C-4V engine along with a short stroke version displacing 302 cubic inches. These new locally built engines replaced the previously imported 302 Windsor and 351C from the USA. Initially, the cylinder blocks were imported from the USA, while the remaining parts were manufactured in Australia at the Geelong Ford Foundry. In 1973, Ford of Australia received word of the fact the Ford of USA was stopping production of the 351 Cleveland engine after the 1974 model year. As a result, Ford of Australia placed an order for approximately 60,000 engine blocks to act as a supply until Geelong could start producing its own engine blocks. In 1975 Geelong began production of its own engine blocks which it continued until December 1981. All engine blocks produced in Australia were the short deck 9.206" engine block. The last Australian Ford to receive a Cleveland V8 engine was a Ford XE Fairmont Ghia ESP sedan, Vehicle Identification Number JG32AR33633K built on 25 November 1982.[1] Ford Australia continued to make remnant stock of the 351C available in Bronco and F-series vehicles until August 1985. Australian-built 351 engines were also used by De Tomaso in Italy for the Pantera, Longchamp, and Deauville cars after American supplies had come to an end. These engines were tuned in Switzerland and were available with a range of outputs up to 360 PS (265 kW; 355 hp).[32] Unlikely to have a Windsor in this era car. Also very few know that the later exotic DeTomaso cars often came with a Geelong built engine. This helped the cars qualify for slightly less import duty due to Australian content.
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  24. Except that at most only 30% if buyers went with the V8 option. Most went with the 200 six or 250 six. Even some two door cars sold with the six but rarer.
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  25. It was Targa West near Perth. Some widespread confusion in the comments due to two events with Targa in the name.
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  26. Wikipedia says 200 of the 351and 200 of the 302. All the fake clones go 351 and likey a few originals converted by owners losing value by non matching numbers.
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  27. Fantastic detail. I was going to look up stuff about the blue paint but you did it all much better than I could. I need a laugh to the four wheel disc brake story would be good. I think Targa rules confine the cars to the engine they came with , but a few mods, so this would be no bigger than a 351 motor.
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  28. By the time these last 2 door Cobras were made they had four wheel disc brakes and for the racing ones lots of race reliability options.
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  29. Lots of comments on the 351 and 302 engine options, but these were only in at most 30% of Falcons with 1972 being the peak year. Most Falcons had a 200 or 250 six. Hardtops much more V8 take up.
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  30. How these older Australian cars were used for Mad Max is worth knowing : https://youtu.be/cEcfTwonSiw
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  31. The one off was even bigger a 429. Installing the then biggest US motor in the Falcon.
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  32.  @IWrocker  the last US full size cars assembled here were the Ford Galaxie and LTD versions from 1965 to about 1971. Usually from Canadian parts. 289, 390 and 400 motors needed to drag them along. Expensive and small numbers. Favoured by those high up in government to be driven around in. Gradually replaced by stretched Falcon based Fairlanes then later an even more upmarket local LTD that convinced a few that they were US imports.
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  33. A local replica of one though.
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  34.  @panelvanman7671  of course. My first comment on this vid was how spooky that was.
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  35. 351 optional like this one.
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  36. From Wikipedia The first 200 Cobras produced were given the 5.8L 351 Cleveland V8, while the other 200 received the 4.9L 302 Cleveland ... the only exceptions to this being build number 001 is a 302ci (4.9 litre) V8 and build number 351 is a 351ci (5.8 litre) V8.
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  37. These are highlights of this car over the full five or six day event. How it is run and winners here in Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targa_Tasmania The record of Jim Richards in this is amazing. He was Peter Brock's co driver in the 79 Bathurst clip then for many years including winning in the Skyline R32.
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  38. How the US full sized Chevrolet car was viewed in Australia in the sixties https://youtu.be/Z1Hkvhklkv8 If you paid the premium price. So only a Small market share.
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  39. By the time of these Cobras they got four wheel discs. Road cars and helped the racing ones of course.
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  40. Although a Shelby Daytona locally built replica of the original car designed by the American Peter Brock around ,64.
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  41. No. Targa West near Perth.
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  42. Peter Brock had his last crash at the WA copy Targa West near Perth.
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