Comments by "DarkSideSixOfficial" (@DarkSideSixOfficial) on "Obama Addresses U.N. General Assembly | The New York Times" video.
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DMT Graphics This is true. That is quite one of the things Obama did screw up with. Set a red line himself, and not really in tune with international organizations. However, at least the US and Russia had Assad get rid of the chem weapons, or most of them at least. Truth comes down to it, it's a long history of US, Soviet relations that have destabilized the East. Naturally, the US and now Russian Federation, should work together to fi these issues, otherwise they will go nowhere. It's the end of WWII that really has the world on edge still, WMD's being the drive for most of the conflicts, mix that in with modern Business, people just trying to get their hands on resources without thinking through consequences.
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***** It's 100% fact you're still stating twisted facts, brought yo you by the conservative extremists. Obama thought out a plan to support rebels. Rebels - Kurdish Warriors, and FSA. Both groups both face wins and losses. When one group loses, they lose gear, weapons, equipment, such is war. The winner, gains that support. o if you see ISIS running around with M-16's, M4's, Humvee's, and other American made gear, MOST of that is because of how badly they kicked Iraqi Militaries rear ends in, at the beginning when they went on a Regional Blitz. Otherwise, their fighting skills are absolute trash, the only reason they win so much, is because they've been found to be drugged up so damned much they don't care if they die. So when you sit here and comment about how the US trained, and funded ISIS, you're just proving how wrong you are. YPG and YPJ forces are holding their own with the help of the Coalition, and at the end of the UN Assembly, hopefully everyone can finally put boots on the ground and help get rid of Daesh for good.
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***** Not exactly. Of course, we are all born into this world by two people, where in the world, and what time, it's not known, nor do we get to chose. It's a hard life, but as Humans, it's hard coded in us to survive, that's just how it is, it's our nature. we forge tools and ideas, formula's to do this.
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Comonsensaintsocomon First of all, ISIS and Al Nursa are not backed by the US. They are Iran's creation, it's been proven,, i've got a friend in Saudi Arabia who notified me their SF uncovered plans by ISIS including the Haji incident, and to attack Saudi Arabia. They also found tons of weapons, MG3's, and much more supplied by Iran.
Secondly, Putin is alone with Assad, and Iran. everyone else see's the root of the problem, which is ISIS, and Al Nursa. Of course, we're not going to let any of them just do what they want. I like how Russia goes into Syria and everyone calls Putin a Hero. We've been fighting ISIS, Putin meanwhile is killing the FSA and the reason it's a big deal is because the FSA are the ones doing damage to ISIS, aside from the YPG who's efforts are also keeping ISIS weakened, with the help of US, Saudi, Jordan, Iraq, the UAE, UK, Canada, France, Germany, and sort of Yemen. The focus of the Middle Eastern and West Coalition is on ISIS and Al-Nursa, and Al Qaeda. Putin is only there to defend Assad. He's actively fighting the Civil War for the Syrians. The US are not doing that. FSA only received weapons, and not even that much, it's mainly food and rations, the most i heard they got supplied from the US, are 14 Trucks, not even armed. I'm talking civilian trucks by the way. So to claim the US is backing ISIS and all that BS, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. It's the world that needs to put boots on the ground, not just the US, or Russia. It needs to be the world against Terrorist states. It needs to be a quick and devastating offensive that completely corners them into destruction, else ISIS is only going to grow. Putin being there isn't helping anything. He's just making room for ISIS to move further into Syria.
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Comonsensaintsocomon
Miss information? I already told you, i got my information straight out of Saudi Arabia. A friend of mine has friends in Iran, no one likes the Iranian Regime. Iran's Government is screwing it's own people, all to obtain power.
Lets say for an example, suppose you're right. Putin would then ally with Iran and Syria, and maybe even Afghanistan. Remember the Soviet Union got screwed last time it went to the middle east, so did the US. This isn't about power though. They're not there to claim territory or politics. You what happens if Russia and Iran ally? Iran get's a nuke. You know what happens if Iran get's a Nuke? The extreme right wing in Iran will find a way to either bomb who ever they hate with it, or, they'll sell a nuke to terrorists, and you can't even fathom what terrorists would do with nuke's. You want to know the sole cause of all this violence in the middle east? Soviet and US wars, all for power, and greed. It calmed down after the cold war, until Bush went it claiming they had WMD's. Where do you think they got WMD's from? I'm certain it wasn't a nuke. Chemical weapons are WMD's, which is why you hear stories of Vet's in Iraq preparing for a chemical attack. Which country had the biggest stockpile of Chemical Weapons in the world just a few years ago? Syria. So it's Syria's fault that their own civilians got gassed, maybe they should have agreed with the rest of the world to get rid of them long time ago. The US and about every other country in the world then forced Syria to get rid of them. It was that, or get bombed. The Civil war is now still pushing on. Now of course the situation with ISIS showed up. Where did they come from? ISIS branched off of Al-Qaeda, and Al-Qaeda denounced them because they were "too inhumane". A terrorist group, calling another group far too harsh to even exist, can you believe that? Sounds like extreme Right Wing Iranian morals. The Extremists in Iran's regime are so filled with hatred of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and everyone around them all they focus on is obtaining nuclear weapons. Most powerful nations have Nuke's, but you know what? no one ever threatens to use them. Only Russia has threatened to. The US had invented them, keeps them, but vowed never to use them again after World War 2 and the Cold War. Everyone else wants this power. North Korea, and Iran are much the same. Tyrants to the world. This is only in regards to their Governments. the Kim Dynasty of North Korea is just about as disgusting as Iran's Regime. They only want total power, and will attempt ending the world if they get it. So i'll ask you this, who is the bad guy really?
Also, China doesn't work with Russia or Iran. China is good friends with Pakistan, and is heading to Iraq, not Syria. China is a sovereign state like Canada, they don't like getting involved with the major parties, and do their own thing. This is good policy, as they don't get caught up in drama. If China begins fighting ISIS in Iraq, it's simply what i've been hoping for the world to be doing. Everyone needs to pitch in and defeat ISIS. Once we defeat them, then we can all just pressure Assad and the FSA to stop fighting and solve their Civil war in a diplomatic manner.
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***** The USA Trained, and Armed rebels to join the YPG, and YPJ forces. The rebels they trained not only failed training, but only 5 actually made it into the force. The rest ran off and are presumed to be in Islamic State Territory. Secondly, the YPG and YPJ, are sovereign rebels, that even Russia respects. They're the only force fighting ISIS on the ground, which is why the US tried backing them up. In a war torn middle east with a handful of rebel factions fighting each other, it's obvious that was a bad idea. This is why i back the idea of a World Coalition against ISIS. I don't support Russia trying to protect Assad in the Syrian Civil war, i don't support US arming of FSA either. The FSA are doing fine without US support. I just hope Syria be a stable place, and that they can resolve matters without further destruction Russia is only causing more harm by bombing the FSA, when they SAID they were going for ISIS. They lied.
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***** So i guess you didn't read it yourself then.
"Referring to Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Biden said, “They were so determined to take down Assad and essentially have a proxy Sunni-Shia war, what did they do? They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad—except that the people who were being supplied were al Nusra and al Qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world.”
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"According to Biden’s narrative, only in the summer of 2014 did these countries realize that ISIS was a threat to them as well as to Assad, and shifted, joining in the US campaign of air strikes against ISIS targets in Syria. He gave as an example the position of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, suggesting that he had admitted the error of a permissive policy towards the extremists: “President Erdogan told me, he is an old friend, said you were right, we let too many people through, now we are trying to seal the border.”
Which is great, i forgot to mention, Turkey also supplied ISIS, because the Turkish hate the Kurdish YPG and YPJ fighters. Thus, they allow ISIS to fight right along side their border, which there's even video footage from CNN Literally recording them LIVE, having a fire fight over some hills some 300 meters away. Biden also mentions Saudi Arabia, and the UAE's disputes between Syria as also being the cause of ISIS being so well fitted. But, if you hadn't realized, you're directly blaming the President for arming ISIS. Funny, because i've pretty sure the president only agree's or disagree's with decisions, and in the article it says they (Biden being Vice president and presumably his cabinet under command from the president) tried stopping who ever is below them, from supplying the rebels. Given the lack of communication between the YPG and YPJ, it only makes sense for them to stop the supplies from falling into the wrong hands, which it did. Thus, it's not Obama's fault for ISIS being where it is. It's a combination of micro-mismanagement by multiple parties, some for right reasons, being the US trying to help the Kurdish fight against ISIS in the first place, and some Arab nations trying to take advantage of the situation, and likely tried arming the FSA, but ended up arming ISIS instead. Now, i can easily blame Turkey and Saudi Arabia for this accident, given Saudi Arabia and Turkey some time ago actually arrested literally Hundreds, maybe even a thousand ISIS related individuals. Some even killed. However Turkey, is more of a cause, and it's surprising that Turkey is a NATO member, much less an Ally of most nations. their hate for the Kurdish keep ISIS strong.
So back where we started. The Obama didn't purposely arm ISIS. It was a combination of micro-mismanagement by multiple parties. Your're story even with multiple sources i've now read on the matter, doesn't add up. I suggest you start educating yourself, because even though you like to pick and grab "credible facts", your story still isn't good enough of a lie, blaming one man for the entirety of ISIS. Your hate for one side of your political party is probably what keeps you so determined. Well it shouldn't, because if you haven't noticed, both Parties are pretty dumb, mainly because a majority of Americans can't really get a grasp on reality. Everyone's got a personal Agenda, everyone wants power, control, not to sustain, or improve the country. It's a disgrace.
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