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Comments by "ANDROLOMA" (@ANDROLOMA) on "Interviewing Bart Ehrman about Hell, Souls, and Jesus" video.
Smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people from their experiences, stupid people already have all the answers. -Socrates
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I too thank Religionforbreakfast for this notification. As far as the Muslim commenter, observe how religious propaganda has so warped his intellect, that he parrots his religion's doctrine of superiority to all other faiths. How sad. His desperation of establishing his faith's antiquity reveals a juvenile propensity to boasting of who has the best god of all gods. That, my friends, is blatant immaturity. Christians exhibit the same braggadocio.
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@GFCProductionsx How much did he rob you of?
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@contentinternational He's rolling and trolling. Don't feed the trolls.
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There are 100 gods. What gives YHWH priority over Ba'al?
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@nikostheater And you have no further source for that information than corrupted, errant texts and your own vivid imagination. Well thought out. Now think outside the box you've confined yourself in. An infallible god would have created less fallible religions.
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@cheryldeboissiere7824 One of the most impressive mythological literatures I've ever read was the Iliad. And the Torah.
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@contentinternational Copy/paste, repeat often, and maybe some one will believe you. That's the technique of this Muslim propagandist.
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@Heretical_Theology Thank you. 👍
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@ajaxlewis7664 The local edgy theist refuses to acknowledge self-inflicted Dunning Kruger effects.
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Talk Talk radio Fitz is abusively insulting and barely coherent. He should either comport himself with the dignity we assign academic studies or relegate himself into silence. There's no reason for his disparaging other commenters so recklessly other than blind immaturity.
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Talk Talk radio His "argument" is argumentative insults. How is it possible to address puerile invective?
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@cheryldeboissiere7824 Isn't the Book of Enoch also mentioned in Jude 1:14-16? The Bible uses a whole lot of words to relay messages that could have been expressed in an easier and more palatable format.
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@cheryldeboissiere7824 My opinion is that if the god YHWH or whatever it chooses to call itself wrote its holy word itself, it would have done it in a more intelligent and concise manner. What's the gist to the tome? How much is superfluous and should have been deleted during editing? A smart god wouldn't have used so many excessive rejoinders and vague imprecations against modes of life which obviously demonstrate personal human bias. Thank you for displaying intelligence above and beyond the typical YouTube commenter, Cheryl. I like reading your posts. Your answer evidences a textual predisposition towards the bad habit of overexplaining, a trait found in humans more than in gods.
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@cheryldeboissiere7824 We continue to evolve, but the holy texts remain stagnant. Century after century. Their antiquity will invalidate them eventually, the way no one believes in the talking horse or river god of the Iliad. And the Torah makes even more unreal and fantastic claims than Homer does.
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@isaacleillhikar4566 I think you were the only one who realized that "demised" event. Most scholarly opinion would favor Professor Ehrman's conclusions, I suspect. No way to tell without a poll. "Vertion?" Vertions are subatomic particles which are naturally created in white dwarf stars.
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So many questions, so few answers. A better god would have foreseen such difficulties, and issued revisions to the existing texts.
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America Israel and India is terrorist yawn
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Deceivers use allegory. Pragmatists use plain diction.
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@MatthewKiehl Literature itself demonstrates the phenomenon of evolution.
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Then what about the purgatory mentioned in 2Maccabees? No one should take ancient Jewish mythology any more seriously than other tribal mythologies.
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@DavidJones-ji9ce Being unchangeable is what makes the tribal texts incapable of revision, and ultimately fallible. 5000 years from now, the Jewish myths will be studied with Greek and Roman myths. "Amen" is another Judaic obeisance.
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If there's a sheol instead of hell then we have no obligation to regard either Jesus nor the Holy Spirit as anything more than false prophets, since we're all Gentiles in Judaic eyes and thus infidels that YHWH isn't interested in salvaging anyway. Judaism regards Jesus as a heretic, and why should we pay attention to heretics?
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Greek mythology was less complicated and less vindictive. Better to believe in Zeus than Jesus, YHWH, or Allah. Zeus was more merciful than the gods of Abrahamic myths.
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Myths cannibalize each other since Gilgamesh.
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Dispelling mythology is an academic exercise.
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@nikostheater For the crime of skepticism? Just because you tell me to? You think too highly of yourself and your comfy myths.
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@UrbsDei21 Greeks: the polytheists who gave us such nifty deities as Apollo, Zeus, Hera, Aphrodite, Athena, Artemis, and Ares. Why they were allowed to hybridize their myths with Judaic myths is a mystery indeed.
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@remlemu Jesus was deified, the same way Caracalla and Augustus were deified. By mindless worshippers.
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@brewmanbrett You deny that Caracalla and Augustus endured mindless worshippers? Please clarify your criticism. It's rather vague.
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Words which are accredited to a source indicate the thoughts of that source. In the Torah, the incredibility of recording the words of YHWH in several places reflect an amazing tendency of an improbable testimony of the very words and thoughts of that god. Same goes with your comment. We don't have to read your mind if you've communicated effectively. You've expressed your beliefs. Spoken communication is a substitute for clairvoyance.
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@qboxer A better god and a better savior would have stuck with simple sayings and reduced complexity, instead of speaking so incredibly ambiguously. An omniscient deity would have seen future complications, and responded accordingly. None of that ever did happen. All the ancient writings are static, and impossible to revise.
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@qboxer "Religion is a phase a species goes through when it evolves enough intelligence to ask profound questions but not enough to answer them." -Bill Flavell
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@UrbsDei21 Making lame jokes severely undermine your own point. I find myself unable to lend credence to texts regarded as inviolate and divine messages from a deity to humankind that are strewn with rife error themselves. Prof. Ehrman has books of data that detail contradictions and identify scribal insertions and redactions. Adequate research on your part would teach these to you, if you exampled an open mind. In science there are questions that may never be answered. In religion there are answers that may never be questioned. Only deceptive theologies utilize such faulty doctrine.
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I have several of Dr. Ehrman's books, and consider myself a student of his. Christianity, as a schism of Judaism, used later scribal insertion to fabricate the threat of eternal post-mortem punishment for converts and heathens to fear for their eternal fates to secure obedience and loyalty. As a propaganda tactic, it's surprising how effective such ultimatums were. No communist, socialist, or idealist contrived more efficient brainwashing techniques.
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None of us knows the full extent of later scribal insertions. Prof. Ehrman has demonstrated that there are no original manuscripts of any gospel, and the copies of copies we do have exhibit scribal additions and subtractions.
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@bellingdog Textual variations over the centuries when comparatively analyzed against each other in the copies of extant manuscripts display some inconsistencies that I can't go into detail here. I recommend Professor Ehrman's books for deeper clarification. He can explain it better than I can. He's the teacher, I'm his student. Helps to know the history of religion too, and how it evolved.
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@bellingdog I have extreme difficulty understanding why people seriously regard any religion which is clearly a heresy and schism from its parent religion. Particularly when that same religion later in its own history demonstrated such persecution of heretics. Irenaeus, Torquemada, and the Crusades stand out as blatant examples.
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As a human creation, it got replaced with other human creations over time. Places get remodeled, then renamed.
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Maybe the spirit was a demon in disguise? Or maybe the whole tale has more imagination than reality. And weren't the Wookees from Endor?
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Matthew 27:52-53 describes a phenomenon that should have amazed the world, yet never got mentioned by Jewish or non-Jewish sources. It's difficult to reconcile such claims with reality, by being so needless and bizarre.
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@DavidJones-ji9ce The improbability of such an unrealistic event as described elevates its own impossibility factor by 100%. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence to be considered persuasive.
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@DavidJones-ji9ce The tombs also were opened. And many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised, 53 and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many. Zombie saints relegate these verses into comedy, not theology.
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@DavidJones-ji9ce The only god is logic, and reality is its prophet. "Mixed up events" indicate a errant text, not an omnipotent deity. Who's Andrew?
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@DavidJones-ji9ce Correlation does not equal causation. A found city does not a Supreme Being make. Who's Andrew?
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Theosophy.
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