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Comments by "Golag Is watching you" (@golagiswatchingyou2966) on "The Future of Ideology." video.

seems pretty accurate.
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well we do have them but it's questioned by american values and the memory of ww2, combine this with the USA keeping us down in their world system means that fighting back would only lead to more misery and decline, the best thing that would happen to Europe would be the USA leaving the region or having a major war with Russia since that would force Europe to unify to fight back but in doing so would also grow more hostile towards groups that are not them. Basicaly Europe's nations consist of ethnostates that need to bind together to protect itself from colonisation or american subjugation, most americans don't understand Europe and simply believe becoming more like the USA will solve their issues while in reality it's the source of this deep sense of dread and loss of identity, the same is true for the USA itself but they are less honest about it.
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@theunwantedcritic social justice alienates everyone but esspecialy young white men, if people hate you for your skin colour and tell you how you should die and make way for the other groups who oppress you, while your group does most of the work in society, then why would you not want to push back against that group? If it were done to black people we would call that empowerment and liberating from oppresion.
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@reek4062 all I ever saw was the USA asking for help and emposing a no fly zone, France is involved in west Africa, is hostile towards Turkey, Germany still has treaties limiting their army enforced by the US and their own constitution and the UK spends the most on their military, Libya was not that big of a deal, it was more of a after thought, the USA has it easy being able to bomb nations or arm terrorists and then leave the pieces for Europe to deal with. If the USA is such a bad super power perhaps they should just leave and let Germany, France and the UK handle things.
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@christiandauz3742 you are the type of person nazi's exist for and help rally people around their cause "these are the people who want to kill you, you can only trust us to do what needs to be done to keep you safe from these psychopathic lunatics" You think nazi's are evil but they don't consider themselves evil and often feel motivated because of your fear, hatred and genocidal intentions which in turn motivates them to do the same, you know what far right ideologies fear most? Talking with the opposition and making reasonable policies. Also if Israel nuked Greece they become a pariah and hated on the world stage much more than Greece would be.
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@christiandauz3742 that's very ironic, since Nazism is a modernist, agnostic, corporatist and socialist ideology which is most often in opposition to both liberalism, capitalism, communism and conservatism, while only being somewhat traditionalist if it serves the ideology.
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@Lepetitagite3432 ohhh yes for sure, we already have problems, Im just saying that the argument that Europe is somehow weak while we have nuclear weapons, have troops in other parts of the world, have an economy which is close to the size of the USA, advanced technologies, weaponry, aircraft carriers, drone programs, so on. we aren't that weak, in terms of global power projection we are a distant 3rd on the world stage compared to China and the USA, Russia has an economy the size of Italy and one of the worst demografics in all of Europe. the real issue is that Europe is divided and without a single command structure, something both the USA, China and Russia all have this is a major problem for Europe but it's one that can be solved and we can see some signs of it being solved, it will take years and we still got lots of other problems but this idea that we are somehow weak is just silly. though i do get why people think this is the case the way we are seen on the news. media and from certain member states actions like in sweden, the UK and Germany, we have issues but compare our problems with say south america, africa, the middle east, central asia, we ain't done yet.
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they are currently growing in africa and asia.
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@Lepetitagite3432 most governments are like that sadly.
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@geoffreycole8851 you do realise the british royal family has been intermarried with lots of european people's, nobels and has always been geografically connected to it, the dutch, danish, french and even germans have influenced and have been influenced by the british isles even before roman times, to claim the british aren't connected or part of Europe is just silly and the only argument that makes any sense for it is that it's an island, well ireland is an island right next to the UK and they are still in the EU and trade with the rest of the world as well. I'm sorry but this idea of Anglo-exceptionalism is only realy visable in minor things like the industrial revolution and rule of law, everything els is almost exactly the same, hell English is a germanic language even, the term Anglo comes from Anglo-Saxon which were people from northern germany and denmark who conqered and settled the lands which would become England which would then later be conquered by the normans which were of mixed viking and northern french origin, followed by waves of migrations from the continent to the british isles the list goes on. the british people belong to the European identity, civilization and history and even with Brexit i dont see that changing any time soon.
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4:53 good lord, the grifters are in koreo too?!? that's beyond sad.
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communism is a religion in all but name ''true communism has never been tried before'', ''if we just believe that this time it will be different it will work'', ''yes x was a tyrant and a monster but he tried to make the communist utopia so it was worth it'' then look at how fanatical they tend to be and how everyone but them is always wrong and they can never do anything bad, looks like a religion to me, perhaps the most radical religion in human history, just look at North Korea, the worship the dear leader like a divine person, he even has his own creation myth that birds suddenly sang in koreon on the day he was born, you can't make this up unless you are trying to create a religion.
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21:42 this is actually a good point that hits the nail on the head of what it realy comes down to, what is Europe? who are Europeans? to me this is quite simple, European nation states are ethno-states, wars have been fought for an ethnic and linqistic people to form nations and from that nationalism sprung pan-nationalism, the problem is that Europe became like the USA in terms of trying to not be ethno states and become ''diverse'' and ''tolorant'' of other people's but in the process they gave up that which made them special to begin with, Europe is for lack of a better word, blood and soil societies, in many ways like how Israel is today. if being European is not based on any ethnic or cultural identity then it does not exist and is ripe to be taken by those that are, therefor I think new forms of radical nationalism will be pan national and will most likely become more racist and more xenophobic towards people they consider other, not nessisarry go down the road of nazism again but a backlash against the hedonistic and multicultralism of the USA and more towards the multiethnic pan european identity which is already starting to form, esspecially in the youth.
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20:06 dude what are you talking about? it honestly is confusing to make sense of what your saying, the USA wants to decide these policies, the whole reason of NATO is to keep russians out, germans down and the americans in, that's what NATO is, what you are basically saying here is that it's pafetic that the Europeans do what the USA wants them to do and allows the USA to dictate to them how to run their countries, how big their armies are allowed to be and what kind of treaties they are allowed to make with Russia and other nations, the NATO high command of Europe specifically says that the USA does not want Europe to have it's own military or to go against the US wishes or get involved in the middle east unless it is led by the USA or NATO directly. unlike most European leaders, I deeply distrust the USA and think we would be better off building up our own military, rejecting US protection and should find a way to get Russia into the Euro-sphere of influence but the USA does not want that and since the EU is not a full federation like the USA and the USA also does not want Europe to be it's own entity without US support, it puts Europe in a catch 22, we are made fun of and weak if we follow the USA and their model and agenda or we pick our own side and get crushed or divided by the americans or russians to keep us divided. for Europe to reclaim it's place in the world it would have to become more hostile to the USA and their interest while either taking over russia or getting them in our sphere, working with other nations like China, while exploiting the middle east and africa whenever possible, Germany would have to pull a Bismark and create a federal European state in a moment of crisis where every member state would feel threatened by external presures and basically strong arm everyone else to their agenda while the USA does nothing. if there are two mistakes the europeans did after ww2 that hurt them the most, it's trusting the USA too much and not finding more ways to unite into a single continental federation.
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as much as I dislike the current status quo with the USA as the world's super power and Europe in decline and so divided, I do admire some things of the USA and don't consider americans as bad people or somehow responsable for their government's action or our own failings as a continent, knowing what you are doing wrong, finding out the truth even if it sucks to hear is important to try and fix it, I enjoy this channel and the content you make since you almost always bring a new kind of perspective on things I've never seen before even if I disagree on some of them. great work, keep it up.
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I know Moldbug, great work, very interesting, Charlemane the YouTube channel, breaks down most of his work in a realy well made and relatively short video's with comentary on how to interpret and reflect on moldbugs work.
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@Lepetitagite3432 yeah, it's a lot like the USA was under the articles of confederation, we even use the same word, EU laws are "articles" As an economic block the EU has gotten too restrictive and as a political block it has both too little power and representation for European citizens, this is partly due to design so it has to change. However most people even after brexit still have positive views of the EU, eastern Europe for example are the ones most in favor of an EU army and more and more nationalist groups are less focused on trying to leave and more focused on trying to make it work. However if the EU does not change then more and more disasters will pille on and at some point the dam will break.
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idk i think having my root teeth cleaned and filled without the Anesthesia working properly is probably more painfull than the idea of not having a purpose in life. the purpose in life is to survive, grow, have children and repeat the cycle of life and perhaps crush some enemies along the way.
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@hopeintruth5119 I live in the Netherlands, we have a lot of cultural and ethnic diversity here and im not a big fan, at best some cuisine is better but not anything worth continuing the current direction of the country. individuals aren't monolith but groups share traits which helps them to identify and care for members of their own group and families, people outside your group for whatever specific trait value themselves more than others and those that don't agree to let another culture influence or dictate who they are, this is actually how immigration works, people come for better jobs, oppertunities and to flee their own countries conditions at the cost of losing part of their identity and culture and the host country also loses some of their culture though hopefully for them to a lesser degree. the current world order of multicultralism goes against this and creates divisions and problems which can be avoided and are in most of the rest of the world.
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@geoffreycole8851 don't quite get the hostility though, the UK is part of Europe both in genes, culture, law, history, language, political goals, security, the only thing that seperates the UK from Europe is the canal.
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@PK-pd9oy you don't realy understand the german people do you? The germans always obey their government, it's what they are known for even today, if the army is send out to somewhere most germans would just accept it, no protests, no objection, nothing.
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@PK-pd9oy what do you mean most planes don't fly or tanks don't drive? They have some of the best tanks in the world, hell Turkey has more German tanks than Germany does. Im just not sure where your getting all this from, it's realy weird.
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@mrtek8095 depends on which country, Norway is nice, Denmark too, Poland has some nice places, probably Germany as well but the UK, Sweden and capitals of most western nations are shitholes to live in, esspecialy London and Paris.
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@gentleshark972 I don't think any place should be the center of the world, the USA just sorta found itself in the best position possible though a combination of conquest of north america, world wars in major competition centers and the only enemy that they had being a bunch of communists, they never realy had any major competition on equal footing, now we have the EU, modern Russia, China, India all competiting for more influence over their sphere's of power. I realy dislike the status quo and the place of Europe within the american system, it's stagnate and harmfull for our long term self interest and the idea of full intergration of other people who aren't closely related or part of the European identity is more an american thing and it shows just how incompatable and disfunctional this current system is and how naive it is to think those that come could become equal citizens, it goes against the entire identity and history of the whole continent, other nations don't have this idealistic view and it's mostly an american import which is also why many people dislike the USA.
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21:49 why not? I think it's a perfectly valid and coherent ideology to go forward with, all im seeing is a lot of resistance from the far left against it and incompetent leaders on the center just waiting to be removed from power and replaced with said valid and coherent ideology. the only thing I worry about is how long is it going to take till we reach that point and what are the Russians, Chinese and Americans going to do when that happens?
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have you ever seen China or Africa? China is super racist and Africa is a mess of a place, taking millions of people from africa is just stupid.
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20:49 copied american culture while not being american and being resentfull of american culture for existing in their cultures that made them decline in the first place, gees I wonder why so many Europeans dislike america.
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A̐manjol M̐əmbetjanūlı USA has so many major advantages, the biggest being that it was a continent wiped out of natives by disease and government policy and then decided to expand further for dirt cheap and made war on Mexico to expand even further, same in Hawaii, Cuba, Panama, the USA was born from blood and steel just like nations like Germany and in ww2 the germans tried to expand in the same manner like the USA did, only it was 200+ years later and in a region that had industrialized. The USA even now still has lots of room to expand while most European nations are already highly urbanized, one of the reasons for the EU was to be able to grow and urbanize into more rural eastern Europe. However once major states in the USA gain critical mass, they might break away from the Union due to ideology differences and form new unions to rule more directly, we kinda already see this in States like Texas, Callifornia and New York but are kept together due to loyalty to the Union and likely civil war if done without federal government approval.
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A̐manjol M̐əmbetjanūlı also the USA wants other nations divided, it's in their national interest, they don't want Continental blocs to take shape or rally against them, they don't want smaller nations being swallowed up by bigger ones that could potentially reach the same level of influence and industry like the USA and compete with it. Though we are moving closer and closer to a multipolar world where that is the new reality and once China gets it, Europe and likely Africa will follow suit.
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I agree, the more we reject who we are as a people the more we move towards this sad and miserable state of being, I however would add that since we are animals under darwinistic presures, there is the inevitable that those people who are weak and bend over backwards for the outsider groups and bow to their desires will cease to exist while those who reject it and embrace more ''far right'' views will likely grow in size, power or seen as nessisary, we already have seen this and continue to see this in Europe, with populism and nationalism taking center stage while centrist parties are forced to resort to desperate measures, adopt those same populsit policies they reject to get relected or forced to face the truth that assimulation is not happening and there are issues we need to solve. I would say Europe right now is a lot like weimar germany, lots of conflicting ideologies, problems in the right wing and left wing, minority groups seen as problems (real or imagined) diseases, economic depressions, crisis, incompetent leadership, it's all there. im not saying or hoping the nazi's come back or the commies but I think from this will most likely come a new type of ideological which will be seen as radical and will most likely attempt to unify Europe into a single state in order to give it new purpose and to reject elements within society that it sees as threats or burdens to reach that goal, I'm already seeing it in many of the youth, even if they are far left or far right they both have some form of pan European idealism some out of a sense of culture others out of pragmatism others still more racially or enviromentally focused.
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18:30 realy wonder why you think this is the case or likely, I just don't see it happening at all, at best Turkey will lead the way but doubt the rest of the middle east will follow.
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17:15 think Christopher Hitchens said it best, it believes it's the last and final religion and totalitarian in nature, what's funny is that Attaturk rejected the traditional teachings of islam and his culture and wanted Turkey to become more western, which is why it even industrialized to begin with.
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@Subject82 that's more true in phisics than in world history, world history is filled with wars, genocides and division, forming unity blocks of power are the exception.
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@Lepetitagite3432 kinda ironic since France is a nuclear state, has the best army in western Europe and is engaged with it's military in western africa. When was the last time Brazil or India was involved with military activity outside of their own lands? Im just saying.
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@Subject82 not sure what your talking about, sounds like nonsense to me, what does chemistry, the natural order, social or physical have to do with politics and the organisation of people and society? Unless you mean natural selection, in which case you would be arguing for social darwinism, though I would argue all of human civilizations are artifical constructs and artifical selection presures that produce certain people, nations, cultures, religions, technologies and so on, they can be made and unmade by the actions of people in whatever way they deem optimal and that would then be tested into competition with other forces, not as social darwinists would claim is natural at all. Saying someone lacks perspective, is an idealist and lacks understanding while not giving any explanation why that is the case, is both arrogant and insulting.
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@Subject82 oke, whatever man, I got plenty of other stuff to do anyways, have a nice day.
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@nightprowler6336 I'm not so sure about that, while it is true that a christian society had more morals, more self restraint, was more negative ethnocentric, had higher birthrates, stronger sense of community, it also inspired the pathways to terrible wars, very nationalistic and self destructive behavior which ended up becoming the downfall of Europe to begin with. Furthermore, the ironically aspect of this decline is that after ww2 Europe was divided between the godless and atheist east in the USSR and the capitalistic, christian west by the USA, what's ironic is that western Europe is more atheistic today than eastern europe, yet at the same time western Europe is richer, more technologically advanced yet has equal or less worse demografic crisis compared to the east and Russia. what to me is at the core of European decline is more to do with americanism and a lack of a proper enemy to bind these nations together, along with the changes with technology, globalism and the nature of society, the ironic part of your comment is also that many christian groups in Europe and christian political groups are in favor of all the things which have brought about our decline, just look at the behavior of the current pope. I do think some form of ideology or religion has to take the place of the current decline society we see but I doubt it will be christianity, islam or any of the old religions that are in decline and can't lead into the future, it's going to have to be something else or a new way from the older religions, like idk a christianity focused on recreating a eden on earth with technology, I could see that happening.
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@KaiserMattTygore927 depends on the religion don't you think? I doubt anyone is hoping for a return to aztec human sacrifices to please the sun god but something other than communism or globalism sounds great to me.
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@harshjain3122 it's religion/spiritualism or communism, whatever it is, I hope it's not communism.
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@johnl.7754 don't forget hinduism is quite flexible and can adapt to many things, where as islam is far more singular minded and can't adapt to anything, I see the middle east for example remaining despotic and backwards while India will likely embrace new technologies and thinking, perhaps even see forms of hinduism that praise gaining knowledge of the world and understanding of things as praying, who knows?
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well if you replace aztec human sacrifces with communist human sacrifces your not wrong.
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@hopeintruth5119 the funny thing is, I used to be very open to other cultures and very liberal but then I worked with them, learned their cultures, experienced how they behave and the problems that come with it and now I reject them and moved to the far right on many issues, now it's realy hard work to get rid of these other cultures and people's that Harm our society. It's not even realy a choice, it's inevitable for your own self interest to oppose groups that don't intergrate or cause long term problems in your society, no need to worry for this is actually how 90% of the rest of the world acts, if you think the west is racist and ethno centric, you have not seen China or African cultures.
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@hopeintruth5119 I don't consider myself a racist, I consider myself just sane and wanting to support my own self interest, I have no problems with other people's if they intergrate and become part of the majority, to me that's just pragmatic not racist. unless you think racism is being pragmatic, I don't quite see it that way but if that's how you view it then that's how you view it, in that case lots of things become racist without it actually being racist. not supporting minority victimhood complex becomes racist, defending cultural identity becomes racist, human rights become racist, nationalism becomes racist, having a strong military becomes racist, family values becomes racist, so on and so forth, so I reject this myth of racism and simply view it as nationalistic pragmatism, if people aren't usefull or pose a threat to society, wanting them removed or reduce in presence is not racism, it's just self interest and I''m much more focused on our own mistakes and rejecting people of my own ethnic group for supporting outsider groups that cause problems, so would that then make me racist towards my own ethnic group? i just don't get this labeling stuff it makes no sense to me. if people don't intergrate the country becomes unstable, you will get a balkanization of society and will end in civil wars and internal conflicts, not the basis of a stable, modern and technologically advanced society, in fact the USA seems to be in decline largely due to this conflict internally which they did not have before same with Europe. in places like India with a lot of diversity of cultures and people's they are trying to create a single cultural and hemogenic society centered around hindu identity which will put them at odds with islam, you see the same going on in France now.
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@hopeintruth5119 not sure how you view the world but from what I can observe is that in the case of Europe intergration is not happening to a good degree and people are being polorized due to differences which the esteblishment due to having the same mindset and emotional reaction to new views which continue this decline and continue to polorize society, I view it as inevitable that these differences will clash and prefer a more civil and rational solution rather than ignore and leave it to the extreme far right or far left but that's my view, what are your views? the USA never had problems quite like it does right now, closest would be the civil war and even then it was only around a few differences now the differences between states and the over reach of the government is huge with massive radicalization on the far left becoming mainstream while the rich and elites have more wealth and controle over the US population than ever before, I think my understanding of US history is quite large, esspecially for a European, most Europeans know nothing of manifest destiny or the US-Mexican war, the civil war, manroe doctrine, ww1 or even ww2 or the cold war.
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@hopeintruth5119 have you not seen the massive victim hood grifting complex in the USA? it's massive, in the billions and support from major corporations and big tech companies, how do you not know this and lecture me about not understanding US history? not trying to insult, just realy wondering how you come to these conclusions, perhaps you know something I don't? as a non-american i might be missing something but to me it's quite easy to see what's going on in the USA, while americans themselves have these strange views most often, both left and right btw.
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@hopeintruth5119 Europe's history is different from the USA of course, the USA is a nation of Immigrants, those same claims are sometimes used for the british, german, french nations but they just aren't true, they exist as ethnostates with distinct histories for millenia and have only been realy influenced by culture and people's on the European continental or at best north african and middle asian cultures, we aren't immigrant nations and should not wish to become so, at best we could become a more pan-European civilization where we tolorate and view people and nations within Europe as equal or like us while considering those beyond it as either not us or as potential threats, this is a over simplification of course but at it's core that is what it comes down to and what's holding back organisations like the EU, they don't have that vision as much anymore, they don't codify it properly in their laws, they don't promote the things that would allow such a thing to grow which is why there is resentment and opposition towards the EU and national governments that do the same, both on the left and the right wing.
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@hopeintruth5119 never seen a multicultralism society that did not devolve into authoritarianism and oppresion by elites, that's all im seeing or experiencing. It's almost always forced down on the people and even the USA was not like this untill around 1965 when they realy started to bring it in despite the people not supporting it.
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@hopeintruth5119 the USA was at war with other nations as well and at war with itself, only difference I see when they took over they made sure there was only one dominant culture and one majority population, while in Europe we kept things divided and our governments were still very outdated and whenever one nation got the upper hand the rest of Europe would unite against them, later even the USA joined in on this in ww1 and ww2, making any kind of unification impossible.
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it's more like national socialism mixed with some capitalism.
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@user-fh9qt6eo1h im pretty sure the Chinese government can decide whenever they want to take the means of production and controle most of their society while also supporting state wellfare programs to support/manipulate their society like any socialist government and totalitarian government would. But your partly right they are mixed model and simply choose not to take the means of production directly but they do have a place in all companies and the final say which is almost exactly how the nazi's and fascists organized their economy and directed their selected corporations, like Messersmit, Farben, Krupp, Porsche, so on.
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16:15 I don't understand how you can see potential in islam, unless you mean by potential the potential to ruine most of the world and go back to the dark ages while China and India become the new super powers of the world. that's what im seeing at least, where is the science in islam? where is the rule of law? where is the ideology besides worship mohamed? I just don't see it.
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I feel like you must be living in the more western parts of Turkey, the country is more 50/50 split between secular urban west and the more rural and relieus east, Erdogan's support is mostly rural and some urban nationalists in the west, the balance of power is very delicate realy they can swing both ways or go to the extremes, just you wait and see they will go towards the west in full or reject it and return to neo-ottoman style middle eastern regional power. right now it leans slightly more towards the west but that can change, esspecially as the west becomes more unstable.
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@geoffreycole8851 you just keep telling yourself that buddy, meanwhile read your own history and that of Europe while looking at larger politics in and around Europe, the UK is part of that regardless if you think it's not or if it's part of the EU or not, it just is.
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@PK-pd9oy the tanks? Then why do other nations order them if they suck?
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@PK-pd9oy the German army lacks a lot of things, mostly funds.
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@haltdieklappe7972 that's the road to stagnation that erodes the very culture you want to be nice. I for one am sick of the status quo in Europe, both from the establishment, the nationalists and the leftists, there is nothing good in terms of politics going on, it's all a mess.
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@gentleshark972 I don't think that's realistic or something people actually want, it's something forced on them that they have to accept or be threatened with, this creates resentment and alienation in the public which can only be suppressed by authoritarian governments and equal resentment from migrant populations for not being accepted or seen as equals. In many ways it's tragic, both sides lose, nobody gains anything of any real value and the only people that profit from it are authoritarian politicians who now have more tools to divide people with without solving issues in their community and corporations that erode resistance towards their power, influence and controle on both the public and the governments that they have in their pockets. I can't imagine it having a happy ending, just more white flight, resentment and political radicalism while at the same time less of a footing on the global scale compared to China, India or the USA and before you say it the USA also suffers from this ideology, they however have the benefit of being able to leave their urban cities to rot while most European nations lose their identity, self respect and trust in the government that is suppose to represent them. In way it's a repeat of the conditions that led to fascism, communism and national socialism, disfunctional governments, a humiliating state of their nations and culture and the temptation creeping in that only anti democratic and counter authoritarian ideology can save them. I don't have any faith in that future generations will be greatfull for the legacy we are leaving them, they have no hope with the status quo and everything to gain by seeing it collapse.
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@gentleshark972 well the refugee crisis already caused Brexit and the issue is a major turning point against the EU for eastern Europe. The only real solution is to fix the countries they are fleeing from by force if nessisary and have sane immigration policies where people are allowed in only if they would face death otherwise or if the people had talent, degrees or labor value to the economy. The majority of migrants and refugees fall into the low skilled labor market and many still don't have jobs or aren't allowed to work by the government, it's disfunctional from both rightwing and leftwing perspectives, we need pragmatic and realistic solutions, not idealism, authoritarianism, censorship and state enforced multicultralism.
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