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@magnuscritikaleak5045 they both were, hell Mussolini used to be a member of the socialist party of italy before he became fascist and Hitlers national socialism is an almost exact copy of fascism but with an added volkish and racist ideology.
The easiest way to understand it is thus, communism is international socialism and fascism/national socialism is a nationalistic form of socialism, the current nation of China has the same type of government and ideology as national socialism and fascism which is also reflected in their transition from national cultural destruction during Mao's reign and the current government that wants to praise and restore cultural traits and identities around the older era's of China, which is very much in line with the ideology of historical fascism and national socialism, the idea of expanding the nation, regaining lands, socialising the people to this goal, guiding the economy to produce wealth and materials needed to expand via war, all of this is in line with national socialism, communism and fascism, socialists today simply want to use this same method of government for their goals of public education, healthcare, identity, government regulation while often still having market forces and capitalistic structures to support it, like Sweden which is both very socialistic with wellfare programs while being much more free market then the USA.
Being a socialist or support of socialism does not make you a national socialist or a fascist but denying that nat-soc and fascistic regimes did not employ socialism is just being dishonest and inaccurate and it's easy to see why, since that might convince people that socialism is a bad idea, which it is.
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@hatchxable don't you know anything about the history of socialism and communism? The first thing they do is abolish capitalism, yes most nations today don't have completly free markets and I agree it's impossible to have a completly free market simply because every government needs checks against competition from corporations getting too powerfull, we see this in the USA with the robber barons during reconstruction period where they could bribe government officials that's when the government and part of the middle class and progressive intelectuals started to demand changes and anti trust laws (which ironically enough they should realy use on big tech companies today, yet they don't even while not under actual capitalism)
However that does not mean capitalism is bad or that socialism is therefor good, in fact the richest nations today are those with free market capitalism but who also have big wellfare programs, that does not make them socialist however, wellfare is not socialism, socialism is the controle of and manipulation of market forces by the government, no exception, was the case with communists, the fascists, the nazi's they all implemented policies of this nature, rent controles, price controles, nationalizing of key industries (like in Venezuela also real socialism)
Paying taxes is also not socialism because taxes have existed before socialism and will continue untill another form of wealth creation valued by humans is found, the USA however does have some socialist policies and does not rank that high anymore on free market index and that's also why the USA is in decline, some leaders and the american people themselves try to keep it running as best they can and with such a large land mass and population with continued immigration it can sustain itself for quite a long time but the corruption and inefficiënt government policies will continue to grind economic progress down.
In communist China they were one of the poorest nations on earth when Mao died, after economic minster Dong started opening up the country, bringing in investment from the west and basic market forces did it's economy skyrocket and even now they have a mixed economy with little actual socialism but still the cultural and government structure of a totalitarian dictatorship, it's almost a more capitalistic form of national socialism held together with modern technology for censorship and controle but it will most likely not last, already we see some creeping of modern and western style of thinking which will speed up with each generation.
Socialists don't care about workers, they care about power and about controle, they don't work for the people but against it and any government regulation or anti trust is put in place because capitalism works so well that it threatens the power structure of most governments, that's why in most nations there is a balans or rather attempt at it between corporations and the government, nobody realy represents the people or the workers anymore because truth is if workers in one country are being difficult then corporations simply export their factories to nations that aren't difficult, the market needs consumers so they do have some interest in keeping people fed but only as long as some workers and essential industries keep running, there is no easy solution, socialism however is not the solution and never will be, people have to adapt or they will be used by those that do.
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@hatchxable if your ideology has the same results in north korea, vietnam, South africa, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, soviet union, sweden (had a socialist government in the 80s I believe), Ukraine, Poland, Romania, China, so on and leads to famines, shortages, authoritarian governments, dictatorships and you still think that's not true socialism then how are you not a cult with a believe focused mindset that can't think rationally and objectively on how economic and society works?
The record stands, capitalism has won, created the modern world and has worked everywhere, regardless of race, class, gender or religion where ever it was implemented where as socialism has failed on every front and produced some of the most horrific and genocidal results in human history (and im not just talking about ww2, pol pot in combodia for example)
The record is the record and if you can't accept that then you are just being dishonest to yourself and not interested in the truth, all you are left with is a immoral fantasy and ideology that deserves to be ridiculed.
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