Comments by "Golag Is watching you" (@golagiswatchingyou2966) on "Is A European Federation Inevitable?" video.

im not so sure that's what would happen, Poland wants Ukraine to join because it's a vital area for Russia, taking that away from them is a major win for Poland and the rest of Europe.
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back in 2016 I was in support of Brexit because the EU leaders were being very stupid and deserved a pushback for their bad policies, esspecially Merkel's policies, I also wanted to see if the UK could make it on their own and perhaps implement a more capitalistic alternative to the EU, my hope was either the EU would change following this shock or the EU would collapse and new blocks that weren't stupid would take it's place, I was quite suprised to find out the UK government was much more incompetent than I had expected and the EU seemed to have realised their mistakes and started doing things to try and preserve the union as well as moving more towards a federal Europe since the UK was it's biggest opposition for doing so. now years later, I don't really regret supporting brexit but I am very disapointed in the UK, they had 5 years to try and make brexit work and they blew all the chances they got to fix things which made me realise how much I dislike the current EU it offers a better and wider platform of change for most of Europe than a collapse would, I do hope things change for the better and hope to see the UK rejoin the EU one day, reformed of course.
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@andrewjennings7306 don't think you want to destroy Russia, rather change it's regime.
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@GUNN3R1990 the fact that brexit could not have happened if the young people just went out to vote shows an great lack of political engagement by the public, the media did not help of course but it really shows that the youth did not care about their future and thus have to live with it, in the meantime they have not done much to reverse or mitigate the damage or changed their culture for the better. Sometimes the people have to suffer so they remember why they should care about politics, Eastern Europe remembers the communist era that's why they are so patriotic and engaged with politics, they know how bad things can get.
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you could say the same about the USA or the Russian federation, who is going to run it and how? I think it's very likely that there would be a new constitution for all member states and one that all member states would have to agree on, that would really be the main issues since each member state has a specific kind of constitution and thus would clash in legal battles as we see today with Poland and EU laws, that being said I don't see why they could not make a constitution that works for all, there are plenty of examples to pick from the USA being the best example for such a large scale. though I would not say a copy of the US constitution would work, better would be to adopt laws by by it's member states to get the best of all with minimal conflicts between them, the major conflict is between southern Europe and eastern Europe with western Europe and northern europe having largely the same laws already, a compromise might be nessisary and for the parlement to actually work people need to be represented in a more direct manner than the current form of elections, less top down and more bottom up. it's complicated for sure but we have seen examples of this happen and working in the past, Germany used to be a collection of smaller states consolidated into a single state, a European federation would be much the same.
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im no so sure, the relations between the USA might get worse but as long as Russia remains a threat the USA is going to be seen as a potential ally over anything else.
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@GUNN3R1990 it should have been closer to 90% for such an important vote but it's high enough to be legitimate for sure. I don't think you understand what I meant, your nation is not independent nor is it powerfull, the UK is a joke because the people voted for Brexit but don't vote for leaders that will actually keep it free, independent and strong which is what's needed for any nation's people, culture and identity to survive let alone thrive, I like the UK that's why it's so tragic and sad to see them this weak and not acting in their own self interest and as a result you now see more independence movements from the UK in northern ireland, scotland and wales, you say you care about your nation yet your nation seems to be imploding and collapsing and you don't even realise it. the irony is that the UK as a member of the EU would probably be a lot more stable and exist for much longer than it's current path it is on with it's current leadership, you might think that's not true and fair enough but I think the majority of people in the EU don't want to leave the EU because of the mess of brexit and the lack of real change that people want to see even if they dislike the EU seems better than leaving. that should be an indicator for you that brexit is not working otherwise other nations would have pushed for the same thing by now, when in fact the opposite is happening, now you can disregard everything i said and believe I only care about power or the world stage or whatever but that's just not true and hope the UK does well but im not seeing it doing well which makes me sad.
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@frankthetank5708 I don't read the Telegraph so I can't say if they take the same view, I do believe the British could have made Brexit work, they could have changed their immigration policy, elect smart capitalistic minded people, they could have speed up free trade deals with the USA and common wealth nations, embraced libertarian/conservative values to be the most free and enlightened parts of Europe but instead they did the opposite and elected weak and disgracefull leaders, the push for independence from northern ireland, Scotland and perhaps even Wales will be due to their government and their own culture much more so than anything the EU did or could do.
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@djw8965 that's the thing, we weren't sure if that actually was true or not, you can be a very small nation but with capitalism you could become very rich, just look at Taiwan, Hong Kong or Singapore (which is not even a democracy) the EU was seen as incompetent as well as leaders like Merkel, people were fed up and afraid that the EU had abandoned their interests and thus many people even outside of the UK wanted to see brexit, first to stick it to the EU's arrogance and second to see how the UK would develop outside of the EU, now we know and very few members want to leave the block.
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I think the majority of EU member states would support a federal Europe, the main issues is what kind of Europe? it's clear that the more conservative side of the EU would be eastern Europe where as the western side is much more progressive and open minded to ideas of a federal Europe, I won't get into which is better or worse for whatever specific topic or how things would evolve if it came about today but what I will say is that for this new federal Europe to work both sides need to be represented in a manner that might be disliked by the other but still with enough checks and balances that overreach or seccesion movements don't break it apart, in this regard the EU might be at a major disadvantage because it does not have proper checks and balances or the same kind of liberty focused constitution as the USA has, nor does it want to be exactly like the USA in this regard. Though without some form of compremise and a platform for futher expansion the union is not going to work as federation, there is also the military aspect and while nations have improved their military projects cross member state lines there is still much work to be done for it to even pose a threat to say Russia, in this regard the actions of Russia are almost a blessing for the EU since the threat of Russia, China and of a more distant USA might motivate people and governments to accept federalization as a means of gaining national security the same way Germany was created due to the threat of France. while not inevitable and still very much in question, the recent developments and threats from outside the EU are forcing members to consider federalism as a solution and I believe many of the anti European voices and parties are going to end up leading parts of the more conservative pan-european political parties in the future when they see the benefits of such a federation.
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@GUNN3R1990 the thing is you have neither now, your not significant on the world stage, nor are you independent with your own distinct culture and people anymore, it's very depressing actually to see, esspecialy knowing how great the UK used to be, not having anything close to that anymore and being humiliated, abused and seen as a joke is just tragic and sad, I rather see a strong, independent and great UK than a weak, divided and beaten UK as a member if the EU, even if that would magically make the EU powerfull on the world stage.
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@Mr.Byrnes it certainly has the potential to be that but also one that is great like the USA.
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I don't really see it at all, I see a push against immigration, against many social changes and weak leaders who sell out their people but I don't actually see that big of a support for leaving the EU, in fact I would say many nationalists are starting to realise that on their own they can't really effect or do much on the world stage and rather than leave the union they would probably want to influence it and bring it more towards their interested, if the EU becomes a federation that might actually empower nationalists to become politically active within the EU instead of trying to leave it. sovereignty does not really exist, nations are always influenced by others around them, esspecially today, in the 19th and 20th centuries it might have mean't something but today sovereignty only matters in how much you can effect other nations because other nations are effecting yours regardless.
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@EEE-pv2eo true but how did they solve this? A more powerfull federal government and policies to encourage cooporation, that's not to say that we won't have a civil war or conflict within a federal EU but I think the majority are going to agree with federalisme, esspecialy with hostile powers around it, if there were no enemies we probably not see this push for federalisme.
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@Tosse901 what problems? you mean the EU being annoyed at Poland or something? it's not something really major, we probably have way more issues with Turkey joining the EU than Ukraine, I just don't see the issues, Ukraine is not going to be able to take over the EU or cause major issues within it, it's a bigger benefit to Ukraine than the EU but we still do benefit.
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@Sakattack2023 your forgetting how technology changes culture, the USA used to actually be very divided per state but because of the industrial revolution and the growth of the federal government's authority the people could move around more and empower their sense of unity as a single nation, the EU and European nations have been doing that as well, to a lesser extend of course but today we can move and communicate much more directly and so the barrier for federalisme is lower compared to the 19th Century.
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@thesmilinggun-knight9646 not really, there was a mix between mostly english and german cultures and even back then it was a major issue but those have all but been solved by now.
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@Arcaryon pretty much yeah.
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@FrankDePlank the referendum was not exactly legitimate when done with russian occupation. As for Russia feeling threatened by NATO expansion, so what? Are they going to start a nuclear war just because Ukraine does not wish to join them and in fact feels very threatened by Russia and for good reason. War is going to happen if Russia decides to invade, if NATO, the EU and the USA made clear that attacking Ukraine would lead to war with all of NATO they would back down, the fact that they have not offered full support makes war more likely not less. Perhaps the status quo of Russia being an authoritarian dictatorship needs to end, perhaps it's a relic of a bygone era and they should change with the times?
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@Tosse901 nonsense, it would be another investment market for western europe to invest in, same as Poland, Ukraine´s main issue is it´s corruption level, lack of western style virtue signaling points and lack of economic prosperity at an acceptable level, it´s a big country with a lot of people in it so those could be reached rather quickly with just a little investment and we allowed other nations to join the EU before who were even worse off and they are still in it today.
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@GUNN3R1990 I don't think the UK is going to like or will allow a referendum on the issue, they are going to do their best to postpone and deny it because like it or not losing it's core states is a big sign of decline, stagnation and failure on the part of brexit. also for the third time now I said I don't care if the UK does not want to be a powerfull nation on the world stage, im simply pointing out you nether got power, influence or govern your own nation, that's why your fixation on this is kind of a joke. but hey if that's what you want to be and not have your own nation and be weak at the same time, enjoy im just saying that's not something anyone sane would want or who has any self interest in his own future or love for his own nation.
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@EEE-pv2eo a federation is a complex entity, it is often seen as a more evolved confederation, the EU as of right now is what is called a supranational organisation which basicaly means a mix in between, a move towards federalisme would simply expand upon what is already there, likewise not all federations are the same and some autonomy would still need to be given to member States, that's why sometimes the push for EU federalization is called "a federation of nation states" instead of a "Federation of states" as is the case with the USA.
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@nightprowler6336 it's not just Europe that's aging, also I don't see many Europeans being lazy and not doing anything, in fact many of them work very hard, everyone needs the internet, it's a tool like any other, if you don't have it your probably a third world person trying to get to Europe.
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@kosa9662 it would be a major blow for sure.
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@Tosse901 I think it could be as early as 6-10 years.
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@Tosse901 I think that's rather foolish and stagnant, the EU has expanded multiple times, right now it's mostly focused on Balkans but why should it end there? there is still the possability of the UK rejoining and then there is Ukraine which already has an economic treaty with us, I just don't see the status quo existing forever as being realistic or even desired.
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@Tosse901 they really aren't that big, the Visigrad group is almost completly collapsed, the western nations are much bigger and stronger than Hungary or Poland combined, their influence is rather mild, it's mostly a pissing contest between incompetent EU elites who try and pretend like Poland and Hungary are these big hostile forces in the EU while really it's the EU leaderships stupid policies and giants like Germany's selling out to Russian gas and standing in the way of having nuclear power that are major issues for the EU's energy market which is much more important than Poland's or Hungary's issues with immigration of LGBT groups demands.
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@Tosse901 I can't stress enough how little anyone is effected by Poland or Hungary and how much we actually are effected EU wide because of Germany and stupid policies by the EU, lets first solve the real issues like our energy needs, immigration from outside the EU, Belarus and russian aggresion rather than spend time worrying about Poland or Hungary, Germany breaks the same rules Poland and Hungary does but the EU does not care because it's not consistent for all members and that breeds disunity in the EU. now I don't think Polish law should be above EU law but we have to adress them to all member states, not just smaller states like Poland and Hungary, it just is not important to anyone.
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@frankthetank5708 that's open for debate since they still have not figured out the details of the south american trade deal and others. they aren't very pro liberty or democracy of course they don't have that much power on actual policy but their main focus is less about supporting liberal values and more about supporting their political agenda and funds for projects, of course the people themselves don't seem to be that focused on it so fair enough but still they don't seem quite interested if there is a EU federation that they would suddenly become very liberal and open minded to new ideas, it's a real problem and that has to be solved for a real federation to be possible.
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@frankthetank5708 how does having less regulation cause more corruption? Should that not be the opposite? The UK tram system and unions are well known to be corrupt and withhold positions to people even if they need them filled and that's just one sector, the UK is filled with these "licence" style corruptions top down and bottom up.
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@frankthetank5708 that's nonsense, the UK could rejoin the EU if it wanted to, fairly easily, joining the EU is not even the main issue, the issue is just UK incompetent leadership focusing more on regulating, promoting migration and LGBT communities while ignoring crime, unemployment, energy needs, health care capacity and having sound capitalistic policies, the EU also fails in this to a degree but the UK has been the king in trying to destroy their own nation and making people want the UK to fail on the world stage.
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@frankthetank5708 that's not actually true, the membership process is not dependent on time, it's dependent on the situation, the value of the nation and the amount of democratic, values and economic development the nation in question has, Turkey was making strong headways into becoming part of the EU, there were a lot of voices within the EU, mostly eastern europe but also some western european nations that did not want Turkey in the EU but progress was made, that all stopped when Erdogan started issueing purges of the army, his parlement, the judges and imposing himself as being able to be relected forever, since then the membership progress has been on hold. as for north macedonia, Serbia or albania, the main issue stopping them is their low levels of economic development, high rate of corruption and the issues around Kosovo. the UK has non of these downsides, it already was a member not so long ago, it was one of it's founding member even, the UK has a strong economy, democratic values, nobody would oppose them joining the EU, if the UK today decided we want a new refurendum, they hold it somewhere in mid 2022, they vote majority yes on joining, then starts the joining process but since the UK already has all the major boxes ticked it would probably only take 1/2 years to be complete, perhaps sooner if all sides can agree on certain issues. Scotland could break off the UK and have an even shorter time in joining the EU since their issues are less severe compared to the UK as a whole, esspecialy with the northern ireland issue.
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@frankthetank5708 again, this is not true, the EU does regulate certain migrant flows in regards to schengen, it has Europol which is used to track cross member criminals, it has a massive influence in energy sector and even now has billions worth of covid recovery funds as well as medical help for most member states. the EU in many ways already is like a federation, it redistributes funds back and forth, funds projects around the EU and influences the market in a bit way, in other ways the EU is very weak compared to the member states, that's why it's a weird mix between federal and confederate system as well as complex intergovermental bodies in and between itself. there is a growing desire to federalize the EU, both out of a need for the challenges of the future as well as a means to get rid of a lot of deadlock and lack of process within the EU.
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@greas1233 the EU literally has policies to ensure millions of people come in, all aboard the UN migration pact, openly threatning member states who refuse migrants with fines up to 100.000 euro per migrant/refugee rejected. National governments for sure have done the most damage but to say the EU has not contributed to this mess would be false and btw all the people who let in millions, all love the EU and everyone who wants less migrants hate the EU.
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just ignore all the ways they promote it and harm nations that try and stop them but yes the majority of the problem comes from leftwing parties and their buddies in the center right parties @greas1233
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naw that would be the USA, Russia and the UK.
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