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@nonserviam4813 in a way your right but these were not collectvist ideas or forms of government, they were kings, monarchy's mostly, rule by the military.
The modern nation state is not exactly this model, it's connected to the people on a deeper level which was not how it used to be, the development of this is also tied to technology and means of communication, what we had in the past was in essence a free for all formed from individual self interest, then expressed into group interest, then organised in different methodes the ones that won out were those more organized, with better resources, people, food and code of law, collective groups have existed for millenia for sure but they weren't total collective civilizations, the closest I can think of would be the Spartans which did rule like a totalitarian state.
But you are correct, modern views of individualism is rather new, every individual is part of a group and has to act in some group effort to maintain their individual freedoms and power, working a job is an example of this, you work for a collective but gain money which you can spend for your individual choices, both individual and collective realities exist at once, the issue is how to balance these things in the optimal manner and these things change as technology, culture, people, nations and environments change, that's also why things like fascism or national socialism can't maintain their fanaticism forever, it's a temporal state of high energy movement within society which then "cools off" over time, you see the same reaction though much less intense in the formations of new countries, religions, cultural movements, technological revolutions or political revolutions.
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@OffGridInvestor they tend to point to one or two things which other socialists nations did not do while the national socialists did do, like privatization of certain industries, they fail to see how this is like communist china today, they allow some capitalist market forces into the economy but they always have the final say and if you disagree your off to the camps, that's not how true free market economy works.
They don't understand capitalism and they don't understand socialism, socialism does not work to create wealth, socialism is a means of regulating the economy and redistribute wealth aka steal from the parts that produce wealth, national socialism works slightly better than full socialist systems because they allow market forces and corporations to make the things they want while they take parts of the profits and invest them into collectivist projects like building a big army, lower taxes for big families, improve Factory conditions (mostly making it less depressing to work in), camps.
Socialists don't want to admit this because they know how unpopular the nazi's are today and some historians don't want to admit this because then it would mean admiting some parts of national socialism actually work, not as good as capitalism of course but anything not "totally evil that never works" is not good enough which is why modern Communist China is such an enigma for some modern economists today which works about the same as national socialist Germany did.
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@RandomGuy010 in my country "the Netherlands" it's also legal, prostitutes are able to sell their bodies in certain districts behind windows, the police can help them if they are forced into it (not all of them call the cops because of pimp or language barriers, foreign woman do get used into it), they can do their work with basic hygiëne and security from customers and it's more regulated.
Prostitution is always going to be happening, I've seen how it goes in places like the USA where it's illigale, prostitutes beaten by pimps, selling on the streets, sometimes murdered by customers and can't go to the cops because it's a crime, it's much worse compared to it being legal.
I don't quite get how prostitution erodes trust between man and woman, it's just a service, isolated in specific parts of the city, people who want it have to go on their own to get it and everyone knows how that industry works, most aren't there because they realy want to but they need the money and it pays pretty well, I've heard stories of some college girls working in it part time and making more money in a day than most guys with 20+ hours part time jobs flipping burgers to pay college do.
So why should you allow prostitution? Because it's safer for the prostitutes and it gives them more rights and easier means of getting out, it's always going to be there just in what way do you prefer, in the streets, at night, everywhere with no protection from cops, or one specific place, safer and with more means of getting out if they want to? For me the choice is pretty easy.
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