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  336. People should listen carefully to what Peterson said in the video. Rationality alone does not produce a great society. The pop culture example is the Walking Dead. That show presents many rational choices. Why not eat people? Why not kill everyone that may be a threat. All of these are rational decisions. Morality is something humans created and developed in response to an advanced society. It is not something humans automatically have especially complex morality. Now account for every person of every IQ. If you obliterate their moral beliefs that their religions provide, how can you instruct their behavior? You can't force them to rationalize in relation to compassion or rationalize towards the same society you wish to have, because not everyone has the same ability to rationalize or empathize. Take away major religions and the result won't be a society governed by pure reason. The result would be condition that is susceptible to the rise of a new religion or ideology. Humans are not self-governing individuals that agree based on pure rationality. In addition, moral systems like religion does more than define how people should treat each other, they also define what type of character is aspirational. That is not a rational matter. Reason alone is insufficient and in many cases reason is the minimum. That is all Peterson is saying. He is not saying religion is necessary for morality. All he is saying is that rationality by itself is not enough. Atheism does not inherently lead to a better society. As Peterson explained, it's the same criticism Nietzsche had.
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  452. People should listen carefully to what Peterson said in the video. Rationality alone does not produce a great society. The pop culture example is the Walking Dead. That show presents many rational choices. Why not eat people? Why not kill everyone that may be a threat. All of these are rational decisions. Morality is something humans created and developed in response to an advanced society. It is not something humans automatically have especially complex morality. Now account for every person of every IQ. If you obliterate their moral beliefs that their religions provide, how can you instruct their behavior? You can't force them to rationalize in relation to compassion or rationalize towards the same society you wish to have, because not everyone has the same ability to rationalize or empathize. Take away major religions and the result won't be a society governed by pure reason. The result would be condition that is susceptible to the rise of a new religion or ideology. Humans are not self-governing individuals that agree based on pure rationality. In addition, moral systems like religion does more than define how people should treat each other, they also define what type of character is aspirational. That is not a rational matter. Reason alone is insufficient and in many cases reason is the minimum. That is all Peterson is saying. He is not saying religion is necessary for morality. All he is saying is that rationality by itself is not enough. Atheism does not inherently lead to a better society.
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  781. Joshua Thomas I didn't "miss" what you were saying. I answered the question as it was literally written. That is what you said. Anything more is additional on your part. You like to soften reality for your sake but softening makes it further from the truth. You haven't read much philosophy have you, let alone Nietzsche? Why did I say that? Because writers use aggressive language for a purpose as well. No, my tone has not been "automatic" if you really analyzed my responses. If it really didn't bother you, you wouldn't spend so much time on it and interpret it with such colorful descriptions. Also, you could have asked "why do you have that tone?" to begin with. Yes, you are wrong for having suspicions based on tone. That's a stupid way of approaching information since it's not based on the merits of substance or truth. I brought up that I predicted people would accuse of projecting because it does mean something. It means I was conscious about it while writing therefore it would be stupid to be hypocritical. I don't care if you're suspicious or not especially when you haven't even clarified what it is I'm supposedly projecting. "How sure are you that you're not projecting?" That is an accusation, and no, that's not what I was doing in my OP. None of that is "evidence" of projection because I haven't projected that "evidence" onto anyone else. Do you get what projection is even after the video explained? Yes, none of it proves projection which cements the stupidity of your concerns and suspicion. Like projection, attacking tone is just a weak tactic that avoids the actual content. The lack of intelligence and pertinent responses is irritating, but that isn't reason for my hostility either. First of all, I don't have the expectation of sympathy or geniality that you and others seem to have. The people who interest me wouldn't be resistant to hostility let alone my tone, which I consider neutral for the most part so long as it's accurate. I prefer hostile truth over your childishness and fake collegiality. You said beliefs and values were a bit of semantics and then deleted your comment. That's evidence of your character and intelligence. As I said earlier, plenty of polite people and well-meaning people do harm with their stupidity. People should value truth more than comfort.
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