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Comments by "IIIRattleHeadIII" (@badass6300) on "The Rise Of NEETs: America's Unemployed Youth" video.
The problem is that school and university don't teach you real world knowledge and skills, they waste 12-20 years of your life.
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@Max-fv3uw I can make much better progress if I don't have to waste 10 hours a day at school. Also nepotism should not be encouraged, meritocracy should be.
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@Max-fv3uw School teaches you to memorize information, repeat it and forget it and when it comes to math you just learn the algorithms for solving the problem and that's it... -_- If school actually taught you properly you'd be a highly skilled and knowledgeable expert after 12 years, easily being qualified for a medium position job, not just a bottom position. If private courses can do it in the span of 1-4 years, why can't schools in 12-20?
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@Max-fv3uw Not 150 years old, people always had social skills. Now we don't because we are stuck in big cities with terrible, cold, alienating social norms and parents don't let their kids wander off outside, people don't let people get into conflict with each other and school is a forced social environment that actually ruins your skills in the real world, it's ok for work social skills, but not for real world social skills.
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@zonyae29047 Most importantly it doesn't give you a real world skill. You need to thrive not just survive on some bottom of the barrel job.
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@Max-fv3uw So people had no social skills before the current education system was invented 150 years ago?
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@turtleanton6539 to what that I have said are you replying? I'm an excellent example of why the education system doesn't work. I had excellent grades in both school and university and if I didn't go to private courses for 2.5 years and didn't self-educate like mad, I wouldn't have a job right now like most of my university colleagues that solely relies on university. And my major is in CS and telecom. My younger brother did what I knew was the right thing to do and got an engineering jobs right after high school, no university, just private courses and self-education for a few years. He now earns over the average salary at the age of 19.
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@ravenknight4876 Ah because when you finished high school you were an expert engineer, or doctor, or lawyer, or tradesman, or accountant that got a middle position job and got paid above average salary from the get go and you had nothing to learn on the job itself... of course... my bad... I have friends that started going to private courses and self-educating from the age of 10-12 and by 16-18 they got an engineering job, yes DURING HIGH SCHOOL and straight out of high school. They ditched school as much as possible to do so and the funny part is they had more free time and a better social life. My brother did what I told him and he got a programmer job straight out of high school, but he had to go through a 2 year private course and master, not just read, master a total of almost 4000 pages worth of books.
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@stopdragginaround Yes, you learn social skills by being social in real life, not in a controller and forced social environment like school.
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@QWERTY-gp8fd Not in my country, social services come and take you to a children's institute if you don't go to school, and there you go to school as well. XD
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@QWERTY-gp8fd I'm sure you did.
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@QWERTY-gp8fd Until the age of 9-10 not really, after that I started thinking. And don't blame me for my parents, I didn't choose them. If it were up to me, I would have wanted to be raised as an adult from the get go.
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@MegaSirPsycho They don't teach you any skills, they give you a shallow, easy, simple book for each subject and make you repeat its content on the test, exam and so on... If I'm in the wrong, then why aren't people out of high school experts in a field or two? How come private courses can teach you skills, but school can't? All my university colleagues that didn't go to private courses, nor self-educated through real world books, are still jobless 3 years after graduation...
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@ravenknight4876 Or skip school entirely, and use the extra time to learn even more and become even better... -_- School and university should produce professional experts, there is no excuse for them not to, if mere private courses can do it in a fraction of the time.
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@lonestar765 Especially with the lack of proper and non-degenerate 3rd places.
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@ravenknight4876 Ah because when you finished high school you were an expert engineer, or doctor, or lawyer, or tradesman, or accountant that got a middle position job and got paid above average salary from the get go and you had nothing to learn on the job itself... of course... my bad...
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@turtleanton6539 Why would you say that I'm a child?
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@ravenknight4876 Oh, because I have a few dozen acquaintances and friends that instead of wasting time in high school, went to private courses from the age of 10-12 and got engineering jobs at the age of 16 to 18, yes during high school and straight out of it. This also includes my brother who did what I told him, while I did what my boomer parents and teachers told me, because I trusted them... Now these people earn 3-6x the average salary at the age of 23-26... I could read, write and do arithmetic before I entered school... most kids here can...
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@Richie131hun Exactly true.
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@ravenknight4876 I got the same success, just 5-7 years later in my life than all of them due to wasting time in university... I knew what the way was all the way back in middle school. I'd go to work with my dad, or my mom, or one of my uncles and see that nothing they do I learn in school... Putting 2 and 2 together within a few months of being exposed to the real world. The difference is that my parents didn't let me go to private courses, because it meant not going to school, after they saw that going to the most elite school and university and being at the top of my class in school and almost top in uni I had no real world knowledge and skills, they started listening to me and let my younger brother do as I told him to do, instead of doing what they told him. Turned out I was correct from the age of 12 and the adults with master degrees in engineering were wrong.... ooops...
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@ravenknight4876 I did, I just got the success 5-7 years later in my life. And I knew the way from middle school. How? I went to work with my dad, or mom or one of my uncles and I quickly realized that I didn't learn anything they were doing in school. Put 2 and 2 together. Edit: BTW I still had to go to private courses and self-educate through books on top of that to get a job...
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@ravenknight4876 But Sadly my boomer parents didn't let me go to private courses and ditch school as much as possible to self-educate. But after being at the top of my class in the most elite math school and almost the top of my class at the most elite University of Technology, and they saw I had no real world skills and knowledge, they started listening to me and let me raise my little brother as I thought was right and I was right... Me all the way back at 12 years old knew the way, while the adults with engineering degrees were wrong... oops.
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@ravenknight4876 BTW I still had to go to private courses and self-educate through books on top of that to get a job... And turns out high paying companies don't care for degrees at all... My friends still don't have a university degree, they still earn 3-6x the average salary and my job didn't ask me for a degree either, neither did my brother's.
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@QWERTY-gp8fd The government did until the age of 18, along with my parents. There were ways to minimize attendance and use the time to actually learn a real life skill, but my parents had to agree and they didn't.
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@aethylwulfeiii6502 The most important part is that they don't teach you real world skill and knowledge to become a highly skilled expert in a (sub)field.
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@autumnislovely All these are useful, if they actually teach you properly and enough of each of them for you to practice them professionally on a medium level. I'd say that they taught us about 5-8% of the programming needed for a Junior Software developer in the 2020s. All the advanced math we learned in uni I have forgotten as I've never had to use it outside of it, basically anything after 9th grade(which here is like 11th-12th in the USA). They also taught us about 5% of what we needed to be a junior system administrator or network engineer too.
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@autumnislovely If you work in medicine you have no choice, you legally need to have a degree, but medicine, law and architecture are the three exceptions. All other trade and engineering field degrees are worthless. STEM as a whole is just horrible to learn in university.
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@haydenscott8009 I'm a software engineer and I have a pointless paper in CS and Telecom that you call a degree. I know from experience. And I know the job of my friends and university colleagues that solely relied on the education system... jobless... Well one works at a supermarket, another works at a warehouse. Same degree btw, they just can't pass an interview.
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@Jumprr05 I think it's overwhelm rather than laziness in many cases. I for sure know that often times I can't even pick a source to learn from because there are so many books and documentations. And I don't know weather or not I'm picking the right source. It's paralysis because my mind/brain thinks I might waste my time by going through a 700 pages book or massive documentation.
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@Jumprr05 Thanks, it's a realization I just came to recently. When I just start learning something, let's say from a book and the moment the book isn't amazing I get really strong resistance and aversion to continuing it, because my brain starts thinking that it's a waste of time and there are X-hundred more pages left. The correct answer to that I think is that we should do it anyway even if it wastes our time and/or isn't the most effective place to learn it and if we aren't satisfied with it, go and find another source and accept that time can't be perfectly well optimized and neither can learning. Also another problem I have is that I don't have a good algorithm for learning, I just read and write down what I read with my own words and then re-read that and then practice it, maybe it's not bad, but it is very slow.
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