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@cccvvv630 It did pay though. For the 1st World War, Germany was blamed merciless for it, which is why Hitler was so pissed off with the rest of Europe to begin with. Hitler in his twisted sense of justice, thought it was a good idea to get payback for how "unfairly" Germany was treated, causing the WW2 in the process.
Realizing that treating Germany worse than they deserved was the reason of the 2nd war, Europe decided to be more lenient after the war, and give Germany a chance to pull themselves back together, but they still had responsibilities to pay for.
Also, I'm not blind, I can read your words just fine, no need to write in caps like some raving lunatic.
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Those countries still get the final say on most of their own issues, like the Portugal example I mentioned.
We didn't agree to become vassals, we agreed to become part of the union. Brussels isn't a nation btw, it's a city, meaning we could never be vassals of something that is lesser than a country.
And that's how it should be. Also reminder that everything, including the Euro is discussed by the various members of EU. So it's not just "Brussels".
Say what you will. I have reason to believe otherwise. We are as we should be, united as nations. If that's not good enough, then we could always become an actual nation together, and become one new sovereignity, putting an end to this stupid obsession with sovereignity. Excessive pride in one's nation only holds us back as human beings.
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@ignacio3890 Those don't matter. For starters, the Minsk agreements refer to autonomy, not indepence. Donbas would be like the Açores and Madeira of Portugal. Also, they are worthless now, since neither side respected them, specially the separatists.
Makes no difference. What Russia recognizes or doesn't recognize, doesn't change the fact that most of the world doesn't recognize it's independency. UN itself doesn't recognize it's independency, the same people that did the UN resolutions.
Nope. Separatists are the agressors, they started the civil war, they are also the ones who led to the Odessa massacre.
Don't write on caps. I'm not blind, and it looks foolish.
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@NikonNoso I don't live in USA, I live in Europe so not sure what corporations are you talking about.
Sounds like more lies coming from Putin. What reason would they have to sanction medicine that isn't related to the military? Or are we supposed to believe that Putin is suffering from cancer? That's a pretty big stretch.
Blame Putin, he is in the wrong and still stubbornly tries to force things his way. Sanctions are the only way to punish Putin, as there's no way to attack directly whitout causing a potential nuclear war.
If your people feel humiliated, that's because you realize that you are just lapdogs to Putin's regime, when you should be fightning against it. Even Elizaveta Peskova, the daughter of Dmitry Peskov, Putin's spokeman, opposes Ukraine's invasion. Russia should unite against the real enemy, Putin.
When Putin is removed and the war ended, that's when the sanctions will most likely be removed. Until then, Russia has either to man up, or endure the humiliation to the bitter end.
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@jax46 Most of those were wrong.
If the coup is justified, then it's not wrong, nor an invasion.
If the person deserves to be assassinated, then it's rightful. Also if only that person and a few others are targeted, then it's not an invasion either, for no relevant amount of people entered their territory. By that logic of yours we should consider illegal immigrants to be invaders and thus give the country the right to attack said countries in retaliation.
Economic invasion isn't a military one, thus not comparable in the first place.
My policies are pretty simple. Invasion of another nation via armies is wrong. You can try to beat around the bush all you want, but what Russia did, and what USA did, are both wrong, no matter the reasons.
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@Antonio-Montan Ask the Finnish, they guaranteed they would have alternatives by Autumn. Yes, I believe, considering that Finland is a smart country.
They had no issues before, it's mostly the gas that is the main concern, and that is already under control by Finland.
They don't need Russia for that. Remember that Russia invaded Finland before, and thus weren't reliant on them for food.
And there's plenty of nations which create those farm tools.
Imported fuel and gas is already under control, I already said that before.
So? Hay bale plastic isn't the end all of all things.
And what's wrong with that? Also, no, guns, lances, bows, all those can be used to kill some elk.
And? They can easily find that oil outside of Russia via either USA or the arabian nations.
Soy isn't a essential food.
That's fine by me, if it means opposing Russia
I don't care. I would gladly die, if it means opposing Russia. And as far as I'm concerned, EU has yet to dissapoint me.
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@L2Swim And we created our own language and improved on the math formulas as a result. We took it, evolved it, and made it our own knowledge.
Also, don't pretend like baths, writing, math and reading didn't exist in Rome, from which Europeans descended from. The knowledge was always there.
The moors only reminded us of former knowledge our ancestors had already created before.
Just like the moors learned from us, like how to punish people with barbaric means, and never really evolved past that, as some of those punishmetns are still praticed to this day in their countries, while Europe moved past it around a century ago.
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@Jenifer_G No, it's not. Starting a war, means more people will die than the ones they would supposedly save. Worse, it doesn't affect just Ukraine, but all countries that trade with them, as they too will suffer the effects of the war. All that, to supposedly "save" some people that are a minority in Ukraine. Also, Russia didn't care about them until 2014, since they wanted an excuse to invade.
Not to mention than any of them that aren't civilians, aren't worth saving, for they would be separatists instead.
If it were up to me, I would leave Ukraine to deal with their problems, and have Russia mind the problems whitin their borders.
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@esharp2720 Rebellion, instigating a civil war and the killing and kidnapping of Pro-Ukrainians.
It doesn't matter if it did invade the whole or partial, it's still invasion all the same.
They should have been ignored. They aren't worth starting a war over.
Those facts are precisely why Russia is to blame. They aren't deserving of protection, and in protecting them and going against Ukraine, they started another war with Ukraine.
Afraid he did. International law doesn't cover Donbas, only nations, Donbas isn't a nation. Worse, they are rebels which makes them criminals in Ukraine's law.
That's simple. Supporting separatist criminals, instigating a civil war, unjustified invasion, causing property damage, deaths of civilians and interfering with EU interests, among others.
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@assouankoffi9456 There is though. NATO wouldn't invade Russia. Russia has nukes, it would be stupid to attempt to do so.
Not unpredictable enough to know that an invasion of Russia would make no sense. And by that logic of yours, I shouldn't trust your word, because you are an unpredictable human being, and thus, as far as I'm concerned, you could be anything, from someone trying to manipulate me to their side, or someone even worse.
If you are willing to hurt people, because they might be a threat, then that's what paranoia is. If I were to think like that, I would have to harm at least hundreds of people, because they might pose a threat in the future. An pretty cold hearted logic that leads to uneeded tragedy. Nobody knows the future, so one should let the future play out as normal.
If you don't act right now, then at least you will know that you didn't act in haste and get people pointlessly harmed.
That's easy, NATO is encircling Russia, to prevent it from invading other nations.
Afraid not. Unlike Russia, NATO wouldn't invade Russia because Russia might be a threat. NATO would encircle Russia to prevent it from invading other nations. So if Russia has a problem with that, that means that Russia wants the freedom to invade other nations and thus end up justifying NATO's actions by default.
NATO doesn't rule the world. Nobody does.
It doesn't matter what USA allows or doesn't allow. If USA invaded Mexico over a mere base, then USA would be in the wrong for doing so.
You are right, I'm 35 years old and I already know virtually everything on the matter of right and wrong, good and evil.
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@assouankoffi9456 Then why so agressive about it?
Yes, a coup which I approve off, since most of Ukraine desired to have Viktor ousted. Only the east part of Ukraine opposed it.
Exactly, and the Minsk agreements went ignored, as they should.
Yes, around 14k. 10k were separatists, 4k were civilians killed by both sides as a result of collateral damage.
Simple, because Donbas separatists didn't respect their side of the accord, worse, they were armed by Russia, thus Ukraine should be armed to protect themselves against both.
But they have nuclear weapons, always have for a long time, so that point is moot.
It invaded Afeghanistan and Georgia. Not because of delight, but because of their own interests. No one is accusing Russia for invading countries for fun. Russia has an agenda when it invades a country.
Yeah, which is mostly USA's fault. Ghadaffi's death was deserved though. He was scum.
It doesn't matter what they foresee or don't foresee. They have no right to invade over mere predictions. Just like you said before, humanity is unpredictable, thus one shouldn't act in a way that only causes more chaos.
It's not irrelevant. Russia having nuclear weapons, means that Russia was never at risk and that their "security concerns" are bogus.
No, he promised to end war in Donbas. Which would, if the separatists were driven out and Russia hadn't interefered.
Russia's invasion could be prevented if Putin had not decided to invade it. Russia has no valid reason to invade Ukraine. All reasons presented so far in no way justify it.
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@garyvahl7658 No it's not. Ukraine isn't it's backyard. It's his neighboor.
Doesn't matter. What USA did was wrong, and so is Russia. One should never invade, unless one is invaded first.
And their nukes, that's another difference. Either way, USA would have no right to invade Cuba back then.
So what if they did hit Moscow? At least that way, Russia would have justification to invade. Since Russia didn't allow for any attacks, Russia's invasion has no justification.
Ukraine can do whatever they want, including joining NATO, as long they do so whitin their territory, if that's their decision, which won't happen anyway, because a country at war can't join.
Speak for yourself, I would rather have NATO at my borders than Russia. Since NATO isn't a country.
I see Russia as the bigger threat than USA, and Russia is doing a pretty good job of confirming my suspicions over and over.
Good thing I'm not brainwashed, since I did my research on both sides. You should look yourself in the mirror, you support unjustified invasion. A sin of the highest caliber.
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@darthoblivion2615 Because Ukranians wished for it.
Nothing hypocritical about it. If there was a majority of Ukranians that wanted to kill Zelensky, that would be one thing. But not the case, unlike Viktor, whom by the way, left alive.
No, it's Ukranian's land first and foremost. It belongs to Ukraine. If they would give it on a silver platter to Russia, or steal it for themselves, then they are separatist criminals. They only have two valid choices, leave for Russia, or denounce their ties to Russia and accept Ukraine's government.
No, it HAD not. Russia should have left it alone. It's not their people, they are Ukranian citizens and thus their problem.
As they should encourage it. Separatists should have thought about that before causing a civil war, at Russia's behest.
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@darthoblivion2615 Nothing illegitimate about it. At the very least, Zelensky was elected, and unless the majority of the population revolts like they did in 2014 against Viktor, Zelensky has the right to stay there until his time as president is over.
That's what Russia says, not what happened. The west of Ukraine was overwhelming in favour of ousting Viktor. Only Donbas regions opposed it in great numbers.
It doesn't matter what they recognize or don't recognize. East Ukraine must follow the majority or leave.
What nonsense. There's nothing righteous about invading other country, unless that country had invaded first. Ukraine didn't invade Russia, thus Russia has no excuse.
Donbas are Ukranian citizens. And if they don't think so, then they should leave for Russia. People who indentify as Russians should head to Russia and leave Ukraine be in peace.
Nor should help. The Donbas separatists caused a civil war, and thus are sinners.
No need to be sorry, because I will make my own decisions, and I see Russia as the bigger "bad guys" for invading a nation for so little.
You mean Russia did. No invasion, no problem.
Tell that to Russia. Donbas people aren't worth risking WW3 over. I would sooner let my family die than let them live with the shame of starting a war.
Why should they? Russia was the one who attacked them, and does unreasonable demands at the negotiation table. Better to fight to the death than let Russia go unpunished for their sins.
Then let them die for a worthless cause for years.
If there's nothing left, it will be Russia's fault. If I was an Ukranian I would rather die than let Russia have it's way.
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@darthoblivion2615 Simple, because Viktor was been in power for some years, and for a while, the people tolerated him. But when Viktor was aknowledged as having dealings with Russia, the people didn't like it one bit, and with some encouragement from USA revolted against him and had him ousted.
Yes they were. Time changes minds.
That's what you think, and even those "very bad people" are still better people than filth like Putin.
So? Many presidents do that, and Ukraine wasn't exactly poor before the war.
That's fine by me. If Ukraine can't defend itself against Russia, better for some of it's land to end up on the hands of Poland, than in the hands of Putin.
Even if that is true, better to fight to the death. Make Russia suffer for their sins as much as possible.
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@benanders4412 Yes, I'm sure.
Then you live in a very curious "western country", probably USA, since they have far worse democracy than EU nations have.
It makes me more free than most countries. I don't want absolute freedom to begin with, that leads to anarchy.
And so are many other countries, surpise, suprise. Spying on citizens who are suspected of criminal behaviour is nothing new.
If they were really spying on me everyday, then they would have easily found something to pester me with.
I already traveled plenty to know that your world isn't my world.
Then they are not as great as you think. If they aren't democratic, then they are automatically not as free as EU countries.
Different isn't worse, but I found plenty of cultures that just plain disgust me and make me glad I was born in Europe.
And that's dangerous, as it could lead to anarchy.
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@Shadow_Banned_Conservative Putin is evil, but also smart. Smart people don't give in to desperation so easily, for they know that one can always salvage something, even if they lose.
Surrounded by hostiles my foot. There was never any hostiles, until Russia decided to invade Ukraine.
That's fine by me. Better for them to suffer for decades and be recognized for atoning for their mistakes, then to be hated for decades for being too stubborn and ruining Ukraine.
Those in the right shouldn't back down, and EU is in the right, for Ukraine is our ally.
Simple, we will just have to wait until Ukraine is no more. Not the desired result, but If they never back down, one must assume that Russia will always have fight left in her.
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@yurichtube1162 I already said this before to you, but those accords are worthless. EU is okay with Ukraine trashing those accords in the first place, because they have no real value. Separatists kept attacking Ukraine, so why would Ukraine cease-fire? It's stupid. The accords only work, if both sides comply. Since Donbas didn't, neither should Ukraine in return.
Yes. I would rather have Ukraine as my ally, than Russia. Whatever corruption Ukraine has is Russia's fault to begin with. North Korea is far worse, and I would still disaprove of it being invaded, unless North Korea invaded first.
The EU hasn't fallen and the EU should stay. Says a lot about you, that you condone invasion of another country over Donbas criminals, along with other unjustifiable reasons that Putin has.
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@yurichtube1162 Afraid that's merely what you think. Facts don't lie. I don't need to pretend, I look myself in the mirror and feel pride on what I am.
Separatists you mean. 10000 separatists and 4000 civilians, with the latter having been killed by both sides over 8 years.
Not really. If Ukraine falls, it will cease to exist. We will never recognize Donbas filth as the rulers of Ukraine.
In your dreams. EU is holding pretty well, and we are near December. a handful of bread for instance is pretty much only around 50 cents more expensive, not to mention other necessities. So much for the end of EU.
We will survive. EU is strong. Even if we don't, I would rather die than live in a Putinist filled world, should they win.
Not all of their industries, stop pretending like Germany has absolutely no gas at all. Some industries will leave, but many will still remain.
EU won't dissolve, and even if it, we would just recreate it again.
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@tedolphbundler724 Yes, beyond what EU is today. Meaning for it to keep existing and evolving. If it became a federation, that would be nice, since it would mean our countries would become part of something greater, but I'm satisfied with how things are now, as long we keep evolving.
I see plenty of reason should it come to that. Some nations are small and less significant, becoming part of something greater would solve that issue, it would also mean our resources would be gathered for 1 single nation, rather than be divided among many. Of course, that's just hypothetical, and probably won't happen in the near future, but it's an option should it become necessary.
The people's wellbeing is more important than the buzzword that "sovereignity" has become lately. "Sovereignity" doesn't put food or money on the table.
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@ziyan953 Not really. If the Earth was flat, there would be no curvature, our sight would still not be able to see very far, but we would be able to make out lights from afar from other countries even. Cities like New York for instance, which have an incredible concentration of light by night, would be visible to our eyes in the distance. We wouldn't be able to make out the buildings, but the light they would emanate would be easy to see.
Notice how we can see the sun and the moon with ease, due to them both having light. (The moon absorbs light from the sun, which makes it visible.)
And goes whitout saying, that the Earth being spherical was been proven by Galileu, and was already assumed to be such even during the Roman Empire era.
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@Michael-bn4vy Invading Ukraine is one. Dragging it out this far and thus benefiting USA, yet another. Supporting Donbas rebels, yet another.
Provoking Europe by flying over European airspace some years back is another. Controlling Russia's media, yet another. And yes, their media lies, just as much if not more than western media, so don't even try to deny it.
It's borders were never truely threatened. Putin is paranoic. Even if they were attacked, that would give Putin the justification to invade Ukraine and make them morally correct. By invading first instead of retaliating, makes Russia's actions become unjustified.
Yes, it did interfere with Ukraine. Nobody asked to invade Ukraine, and Donbas isn't a legitimate country, thus it has no right to ask for help and should accept Ukraine's rule.
You are welcome. Anyone who supports Russian criminals deserves no sympathy from me.
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@annaantonova7246 I mean, it's already proven that he is evil or insane, or even both. Russia bombarded a teather that hoarded woman and children just recently, and there was clearly written on the ground that children were there.
On top of that, here in Portugal, a small country of little consequence already had journalists proving that some of Russia's footage is edited.
And? Don't you realize that you are being told the exact same thing about Ukraine, about how evil they are? Not to mention, whetever Putin is evil or not, fact is, he did invade Ukraine, that's undeniable. As soon Russia entered Ukraine soil, Putin stopped having any moral ground whatsoever, if he ever had one.
I listened, and no matter Putin's intentions and his paranoia about biological weapons , it doesn't justify invading Ukraine.
If Ukraine truely had such weapons, they would have used them by now.
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@AndyBends Sure, I bet you were also a CIA agent in your head too.
Not really. I'm calling you a liar, because I know all too well how people like you work. The fact that you didn't say right away that you were any of those things is a red flag. You waited until your argument was countered to say so, which makes your story very dubious at best. Not to mention that even if it was true, it contradicts other professionals who claimed otherwise.
So, you either are lying, or you are incompetent at your job, since you are counting their birthrate in a vacuum.
You forget that EU doesn't have conditions for raising large families. I see some muslims, indians on the streets on ocasion, but very rarely any children. Also, the Pakistan that rented the apartments I mentioned in a previous post, not a single one of them had children with them.
So, I have no reason to believe your story. It reeks of falsehood.
I thought you weren't going to reply anymore. If you think I'm wrong, then be free to ignore me. The truth will be known in some years, and then I expect an apology for your attitude.
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@motherlandbot6837 Then human nature must be overcome. Those who fail to do so must be banned from further to pursuing those ideologies, those who suceed can continue to do so.
Well, I doubt your biologist studies can explain how humans can make hunger strikes and starve themselves almost to death just to make a point. Humans can learn to have incredible resilence and resolve that goes beyond mere science or logic. Afraid I don't believe that we are slaves to mother nature, if we put effort into it, our natural instincts can be supressed and overcomed.
True ideology and religion require self-discipline to begin with.
So what? Japan has high suicide rates, and they aren't religious either. It's not detrimental either, however people do find solace in their religion, that's a fact. Try to force such people to abandon it, and you would have easily have a case of suicide in your hands.
Religion is a good thing if well implemented like everything else. Anything in this world can be used for evil, not just religion, from medicine to music to all sorts of things.
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@l.g.eliezer6176 As if there aren't rapists on the orthodox side. But of course you will turn a blind eye to your own side's wrong doing, like you are doing with Russia.
You are a fanatic, otherwise explain using terms like "mother" in Russia, when Russia would suffice, as well support war which goes against christianism and God's will.
Purest my foot. There's no such a thing as a pure form of religion. All forms of Christianism have blood and sin in it.
So does Catholic church, most of their saints were pretty great.
Not for long, it doesn't matter how healthy one is, in 15 years or even less, his health would eventually decay by a large amount. No one can remain healthy forever. I didn't say he had months to begin with, and some medias aren't to be trusted to begin with.
Couldn't care less what happens to Biden or Bush. Putin is a sinner, saying "you wish" won't change that fact. So I don't have to wish, he's guilty of grave sins.
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@l.g.eliezer6176 Great, too bad you don't do anything against Putin, whom supported this invasion.
You hearing of one, doesn't mean that there aren't more of them. They exist, and you can't deny them.
That has nothing do with it. Biden and George Bush were never my leaders, because I'm not american. You insulted them in the expectancy that I would take offense to it, but I don't, because they don't mean anything to me, other than being just as bad as Putin.
Simple. Because I'm no soldier. That's why I donate instead, like you do.
My heart has little of hate, since the only people I hate, are people like Putin.
Makes no difference. Intelligence and being respected, doesn't mean that you are a good person.
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@lg2058 And that's all fine and dandy, but after so many years, it's no longer relevant. Ukraine has been independent for over 30 years, and thus gets to decide it's future whitout Russia's influence dictating it, otherwise, becoming independent was pointless.
As it should have stopped observing. The people had spoken, they wanted Viktor, the Russian puppet, out. Only East was opposed to it's ousting, which are a minority.
Yes, Russia stole Crimea with an illegal referendum, and showed his true colors to Ukraine as an hostile country.
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@MS-ii1sv Seriously? Napoleon's invasion? That was more than a century ago, French mentality changed a lot since then and the culprits from then are long dead. They are now part of EU. We have nothing to fear from them.
Russia invaded Ukraine, which is an ally of EU, not only that, but Portugal receives Ukranian imigrants. We should do what we can to support them, which means opposing Russia.
On top of all that, what affects Ukraine, also affects EU, since they are providers of wheat and energy.
Finally, by refusing to have their gas paid in Euros, instead of accepting their punishment with grace, they helped cause some inflation.
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@davidmead2529 Not from what I'm seeing, it was better before a few months back with a value of 0,016 in relation to Euro, now it's 0,013, and we will see how it holds, raised artificially like it is now.
Higher, but nothing we can't handle.
Some people aren't. I don't know what country are you from, but a mere 25% to 50% increase in some prices doesn't equal 4x more.
Turkey is part of NATO, but not EU. Their problem, not suprisingly with filth like Erdogan in power.
You don't have to get started, because most countries are in favour. Hardly very divided. The number of countries opposed can be counted in a single hand, EU is composed of 27 countries.
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@davidmead2529 Watch the text walls. Learn to do spaces.
So? It's still Ukraine's choice. Joining NATO is impossible as long Ukraine is in war, so them being rejected is only natural.
Doesn't matter what Putin wants or doesn't want, that's for Ukraine to decide, not him.
USRR asked 3 decades ago, it's no longer valid with Russia's new regime and after that many years, NATO has the right to change their mind, as Russia proved itself untrustworthy.
Doesn't matter, Ukraine makes their choices, if an actor was elected as president, than that's final, for their election was impartial, unlike the referendums in Donbas regions which were supervisioned by Russia, instead of a neutral country.
Considering it was a Russian puppet before, it is still an improvement even if Zelensky was a puppet, because he's not a Russian one.
Whatever bussinesses and profits people get from this war, fact is, Ukraine was invaded by Russia, thus making it Putin's fault, and thus Ukraine must defend itself.
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@davidmead2529 Learn to make spaces after a point, or I will just drop arguing with you. I don't have the patience to read a wall of text.
Because Ukraine is EU's ally.
It's our job to support Ukraine. It doesn't matter if we can stop Russia or not.
There's no "our border" here. I'm not from USA. Also, what USA did wrong back then doesn't justify Russia's own wrongs.
EU has an association agreement with Ukraine, which makes us Europeans their allies, and thus, it's our bussiness to support them.
I'm not Ukranian, but I will support them, with or whitout your approval.
They didn't stomped anything. Putin's demands weren't reasonable, so no peace is possible.
They had a say on who their president is. And their president is doing his part in defending them. If they think otherwise, then they should revolt, which they haven't, so that means they are okay with it.
A civil war that Russia helped cause.
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@Братецревольвер Quite a few times for both, what about it? Also different eras, different mentalities. Not relevant to current times.
If you think Europe was to blame for WW2, then you don't know Europe. That was the Axis of Evil, not the whole Europe. For every country on the Axis side, there were those who opposed it, or at least didn't get involved.
As it should have been created, because Russia is still a threat, and so is NK and China, among others, even if Russia somehow disappeared, we would still have need for NATO.
You mean Germany's invasion, which by the way USSR was cozy with, until Germany betrayed them.
Yes, he was paranoid too.
History doesn't mean much. The people that tried to invade before are long dead, and thus mentalities change. Different people result in different approaches. As such what worked in the past doesn't work now. No one was trying to invade Russia in recent years.
80 years ago it wasn't paranoia, Germany did betray Russia, so that was only logical. Germany was the agressor, so USSR had every right to defend itself. Just like Ukraine has every right to defend itself against Russia.
If they were truely going to attack Russia, they should have waited for them to do so, let them attack you, so that you can retaliate and be justified in invading Ukraine. That's the proper way.
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@jasonwright8546 Because they aren't Nazis, and because their goal isn't ethnic cleansing. If it was, they would have targeted "ethnical Russians" on the west side of Ukraine as well. So why is only Donbass regions targeted? Because that's where the separatists are located.
As they should broke them. The agreements didn't stop separatists from attacking Pro-Ukranians, making the agreements pointless.
It doesn't matter what they begged or didn't beg. They aren't worth starting a war over. Nobody is, let alone them.
What Russia Federation? Donbass is part of Ukraine, not Russia, even Russia claims they aren't part of Russia, by claiming they are their own republics instead.
They could leave for Russia, and stay there, if they can't obey the Ukranian government. Causing a civil war by rebelling isn't acceptable.
The right thing is to punish them for the sins of causing a civil war, and dragging Russia into their affairs, causing chaos in the world.
By that logic, all nations should be invaded, because all nations have some nazis in them, including Russia.
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@kanish9390 No, I'm not. Either I'm evil or good, not both.
It doesn't matter what others perceive. A person's nature is defined by their actions and mentality, not what others see.
If someone sees something and labels it as evil, but that something is actually good, then he's simply wrong.
There's only one truth, and thus only one reality. Anything that isn't like the one truth is false.
And they would be wrong. If I saved the world, no strings attached, that would make me one of the most white moral people in the world and objectively good no matter what anyone thinks.
I disagree. Subjectivity is for things like color, music, etc... True morality is absolute.
They are wrong about that, actually. If one were to "m u r d e r" an evil person, that would be virtuous, not evil.
You are half right. It doesn't matter if it's 1 person or everysingle person in the world. Killing whitout justified reason is always evil.
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@elliotyourarobot Doesn't matter. There were no breaks either for when other countries had land stolen from them. If they attack another country to try to take it back after many years has passed, then it's no longer justified. Just like how Russia would have no right to attack land that was previously theirs.
Back off to where? Hamas is the one who should back off in this instance, for they were the ones who ignited the conflict this time.
And? For starters, that's what they would want you to believe, that they were peaceful, in reality, various Palestinians exploited this supposed peaceful protest, to attack Israelians, and of course, Israel retaliated, big suprise. Unfortunately, Palestinians lack self-preservation senses or brains.
Secondly, it isn't part of current state of affairs.
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@anastasis-cm5hw Hardly. I don't recall the game saying Magus wasn't evil. He's not a dumb cartoon villain, but he is evil.
To you perhaps, but the Mystics leaders (Magus and the 3 are evil, that makes the mystics in general, evil. A nation is represented by his ruler. If the ruler is evil, the nation itself is evil. Not all mystics are evil, but they are part of an evil nation that tried to wipe out humanity and Magus was okay with this in the pursuit of his own goals. Except Magus doesn't learn, he has no acess to dual or triple techs whitout special acessories, he barely cooperates with the team.
I recruited him before, but usually choose not to have him. He doesn't deserve to live. What cycle of revenge? Frog is justified in killing Magus for good. There was never a cycle, because there is no one, who cares to avenge Magus.
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@anastasis-cm5hw It doesn't matter if it was wantonly or not, he killed people who were innocent. Also, reminder that he turned Frog into what he is, just because it amused him. And was going to kill Chrono and the others in the ancient era, if Schala didn't stop him.
Legitimate or not, the mystics started it.
He didn't do it to save the world, he only cared about his revenge and finding Schala. Everything else were stepping stones to that goal. Notice that in the ancient era, he could have just sabotaged the Zeal Empire's attempts to summon Lavos and change the future, but instead, choose to cooperate with them so he could get his shot at revenge.
He's not a cardboard villain, but saying he's not evil, is just a case of feeling sympathy for the devil.
I'm right. He's evil. I played the game many times before, my conclusion was always the same. He's unredeemable.
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@anastasis-cm5hw Not really. No amount of nuance will make Magus a good person. His sins are too great.
I said he turned Frog into what he is out of amusement. I didn't claim he killed people for his amusement. And it makes little difference, because with reason or whitout it, his actions are evil.
Except it was the mystics who started the war in the middle ages. Magus could have just have chosen to ignore it rather than join them.
Magus was the leader of the mystics, for humanity to defend itself, they would have to strike him down. Magus was a threat to humanity, so of course Cyrus approached him. That's self-defense. If Magus didn't want to be attacked, then he shouldn't have joined the mystics in the first place.
As they should try to kill. Because Magus was going to summon Lavos. At first they thought he had created Lavos, but turned out that wasn't the case, but it doesn't change the fact that Magus had to be stopped. Summoning Lavos would have resulted in the same result that happened in the ancient era.
They were at his mercy, he had no reason to try to kill them. He only relented because Schala urged him to let them go.
Not really. The mystics make clear their intentions, the extermination of humankind. If they hadn't started it, their priority would be self-defense not complete anihilation of their enemies. You mean like you made up that mystics aren't mostly evil?
Nonsense. By not sabotaging the attempts to summon Lavos, he let the Zeal Empire be doomed again. If he cared about saving the world, he would have tried to save the Zeal Empire and sabotage the attempts to summon Lavos, but his revenge was more important.
Also, just a reminder that he doesn't know about 1999, so he wouldn't know that Lavos would destroy it. Meaning there's no way he had the intention of saving it whitout that knowledge.
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@anastasis-cm5hw No real reason? Just watch what he did. And yet the creators clearly paint his actions in a bad light.
No he couldn't have. Frog is in the right, for Magus killed his friend and is a threat to the kingdom. It isn't pure evil, but it's evil all the same.
Precisely, they were going to try to kill him. Except Magus doesn't have the right to claim self-defence when he was harming humans with his leadership and actions. Cyrus and Frog's actions were in the defense of humanity. Magus on the other hand only cared about using the mystics as a stepping stone to fullfill his goals.
Understandable, if one were a villain, of course they wouldn't be selfless enough to let themselves be killed. A villain has no right to self-defence. If Magus wasn't evil, he wouldn't have joined the mystics nor accept to become their leader. He brought it on himself.
If you don't think he's on the black of the morality spectrum, then you are far too soft.
No it's not. Like I said before, just because one is evil, doesn't mean they are incapable of love. He only spared them out of love for Schala and because Schala was being uncooperative with his plans. He even tells her "Hmph. Very well... I will spare their lives. But in return, you will cooperate with me, Schala."
Their "legitimate" grievances are no excuse for their plans of genocide.
Of course he would know that much, being aware of the Mammon machine project. But saying "He lives in the inner earth, absorbing the land's power and growing ever stronger!" doesn't imply the actual destruction of the world.
Except what's the point of that hard work and strenght if it's not to save the Zeal Empire? If he had saved it he wouldn't need that strength anymore.
No, an evil person would have acted in a similiar manner to what he did.
In the DS ending he tries to save Schala from the dream eater, which is a result of his love for his sister. Nothing suprising about that. He ends up losing his memory. What about that ending?
And I appreciate it. Magus is a great villain. His evil adds to his character, it doesn't diminish it.
We can just agree to disagree, otherwise we will be here all day writing long texts.
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@jesusojeda7850 I'm 35. If that qualifies as young to you, then guess you must be old.
There's no perspective in good and evil. One either is or isn't. If one goes by the logic of "this seems like this", then they aren't sure of the objective facts, because perspective can be wrong. In order to perceive good and evil, one must do so correctly, by looking at objective facts.
Exactly, and that was why Lenin was evil. Those who look at the big picture, forget the smaller pictures, and thus make their decisions based on the ends justifying the means. That's an evil way of thinking.
Stalin was of course, even more evil than Lenin is.
Yes, I know. Stalin being far more evil than him, doesn't change the fact that both are in the black spectrum.
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@jesusojeda7850 They never change. Good and Evil are always the same. It's the people who change. People of hundreds years ago, had a weaker ability to perceive good and evil. As humanity grows, so grows our ability to perceive good and evil correctly.
Time doesn't change good and evil, it changes humanity.
Once again, it doesn't matter what one sees, there is only one true good, and only one true evil. If their "hero" doesn't follow what is truely good, then he's no hero, no matter what they call it. Just as a person isn't evil, no matter what anyone thinks, unless that person fits the profile of evil.
I don't see anything blurry about it. It's pretty clear to me.
Simple. All must be defined perfectly. That's how one achieves the closest thing to perfect absolute justice. It's not possible to achieve perfection, but it's possible to achieve the closest thing. Everything must be sorted out so that everyone is treated fairly and justly as much as possible.
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@johno1544 I don't have time for that, I would have to go to the trouble of going to Ukraine, wasting months getting trained.
On top of that, I'm not in perfect health for heavy phyisical activity, and my parents even less so as they are near 70, and my niece under my parents guardianship, is only 11, which makes her not qualified for combat.
My parents also depend on me to drive her to school and to other places when necessary. My mother can't drive anymore with her eyesight, and my father is busy with his own work. And I have my own work to cater too, which barely leaves me time to enjoy life. So, it's not an option.
If they aren't illegal, then good for them. All the more reason why Russia shouldn't whine about there being foreigners in Ukraine.
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@ВладетельКшиссх Simple. Because they rebelled against the government, kidnapped and tortured Pro-Ukranians, when they should have accepted their current government, but clearly they don't care about Ukraine's independence to Russia. So out with them. Russian sympathizers have no place in Ukraine, unless they are willing to accept Ukraine's laws.
Only the separatists need to leave, the ones that are discontent. To oppose the government is treason, so they have three choices, either accept the government, leave, or rebel. The last one being of course punishable, as it should.
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@seetsamolapo5600 You are the one who claimed that Russia isn't planning an invasion, so the burden is on you.
Except he has plenty to gain. For instance, gaining Donbas support, would give him a strategical position for future invasions, on top of mining resources.
It's precisely because he's both an intelligent and ruthless person, that he will stop at nothing to get his way, even if he has to trample other nations to do so.
I'm fully aware of those facts, which aren't valid reasons to invade. On top of that Russia armed the separatists back in 2014, escalating the conflict there, instead of helping Ukraine supressing them. Also reminder that the Donbas separatists kidnaped and tortured Pro-Ukranians so they are hardly the victims you think they are.
People keep saying ethnics this and that, but this was never about ethnics. If Ukraine really wanted to exterminate those with Russian blood, they would have to kill more than 50% of their population. This is about revenge against Donbas for what they did to innocent Ukranians.
Those unecessary deaths wouldn't happen if Russia didn't invade.
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@_vancurtis Lol, the pretending only exists in your head. I know better, live with it.
I bet that is what Russian propaganda told you. The man was a sold out to Russia, why would he want to sign papers with EU?
And that's his mistake, there was no need for any further bargaining, he was only stalling it to favour his Russian masters.
I remember it from back 2014 in the news when it happened, so afraid I did see it, no matter what you think.
I didn't try to portray, Wagner is a Nazi group. Period.
Indeed I dare. Russia is just as bad as USA, so that makes you an hypocrite.
As far as I'm aware, no. But I find it funny that they see a threat in a minority of Nazis in Ukraine, when they have their own nazis to clean up first, which they didn't do.
Donbas people aren't Russians, they are Ukranians, also Donbas are rebels who also tortured and kicked out Pro-ukranians. What happens afterwards is payback and collateral damage resulting from civil war.
Considering that Russia backstabbed Ukraine by supporting the Donbas separatists, is that really such a suprise that Russia culture is being kicked out of their country?
I've see more than plenty to know that Russia is in the wrong. And you are a pathetic Putin bootlicker, do yourself a favour and stay out from YT in the future, filthy degenerate.
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@crystalgiddens7276 I know all about it. Their Queen left Hawai, and USA occupied it in the meanwhile or some such. Hawai has no real complaints about it.
Doesn't matter if they are ethnic Russians or not, most Ukranians have roots in Russia anyway. They are Ukranian citizens and thus must obey the government, otherwise, they should go to Russia and stay there.
As it should have been overthrown Viktor was a sell out, a puppet for Russia, notice how he is living with his masters in Russia.
Donbass has no say in the matter, either accept the government or pack their bags and go to Russia.
Donbass was never truely independent, for only Russia recognizes their independence. We Europeans don't recognize it as a nation. It's more likely we will accept it as Russian territory now that it was taken by Russia, then as it's own nation, as we should. Separatists don't deserve recognition, specially for draggin Russia into this and starting a war.
You can assume whatever you want, I'm right, you are wrong. No matter how much retarded you are, reality won't change for you.
I'm proud of being called an "useful Idiot" by some filth putinist.
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@joni8090 They did, they armed separatists in 2014, and invaded Ukraine in 2022. It was always Russia who did it.
It wasn't ethnic cleansing. If it was, they would be exterminating all the Russian blooded people back in the west too, and most of Ukranian population would be dead by now, since more than 50% of the population is ethnically Russian. It's revenge against Donbas for torturing and kidnapping Pro-Ukranians. Collateral damge is the result of 8 years of civil war, 14k deaths is a realistic number.
The Maidan Coup d'etat allowed the removal of puppet president Viktor, who was a sell out to Russia.
Except it's not protecting itself. There was no threat. Notice how Ukraine is slowly losing this war, with only 10% of Russia's army. Ukraine did a fine job holding this long, but if 10% can accomplish this, against a defending country no less, then Ukraine is no threat.
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@_JimmyBeGood No, I think EU will disappear when the world disappears or when it becomes something greater. So not forever.
And yet EU is far more stable than all of those were in the time of their demise. And even if EU somehow fell, we would just create a new EU to replace the old eventually.
I agree that when the world dies, EU will die as well. Otherwise, long live EU.
I will believe it will happen when the world is destroyed or when Europe becomes a singular great nation. I'm perfectly fine with the latter, Europe must remain united.
Then those 80% are wrong.
As if it's possible to gamble like that. We are simply too far away. But assuming it was, I have a better preposition.
Since 32 years already happened, that means there's only 18 years to go. I'm so confident, that I would gamble my life instead of money. You would be free to do whatever horrible things you want with me, kick me, torture me, enslave me, etc... that's what I'm willing to bet.
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@Neumexa It affects a lot. Russia being bigger, makes it more capable of covering more ground and thus force any would be invaders to divide forces.
That assumes that person already attacked you before. Since Ukraine didn't attack Russia, Russia has no right to retaliate.
Trump is a disgrace, only DeSantis is worth something. I pity the americans if they get any of old farts into power.
Also, USA being a threat or no threat. Russia takes priority.
What nonsense. European politics are far better now than they were 80 years ago in WW2.
Simple, USA wouldn't have any right to invade either, unless said countries invaded USA. Also, you forgot that Cuba crisis involved nukes, which Ukraine doesn't have.
I don't need to know what was in their heads. Anyone with a brain and basic understanding would realize that NATO wouldn't take them in. Russia was still a threat after Putin took over.
That's what you believe. What is written in paper is different.
So more whataboutism. Proof that there are foxes in the barn? Not a single Russian, North Korean or Chinese is leading NATO.
You are forgetting the fact that NATO isn't an nation, and that wherever it expands to is with the permission of the country that allows them to.
It doesn't matter what they do. If Russia is going to bully Ukraine, then it gets what it deserves.
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@Neumexa Then you believe wrong. Simple as that. I'm better than him.
Not really. All humans anwers to God in equal measure. No matter their position. My comparison is perfect. It doesn't matter what their responsibility is, if you kill an innocent, that makes one a worhtless human being, no ifs or buts.
He started a war, which dragged innocents into his mess. Whoever invades first is to blame. He doesn't need to give an order to kill innocents. Just starting a war is bad enough. Ukranians being treated better or not (which could easily be a lie), doesn't erase his sins.
Whetever it lasts long or not, the future will take care of that itself.
Then I'm proud to be a "silly" politician. Morality is more important than meeting your approval of what is a "good" politician.
You do realize that if they do invade me first, it would give me the right to invade them in return? It would be a win-win situation for Russia, as Russia is virtually unbeatable in defense of their territory.
And 200% of myself means to priotize morality and doing all I can whitin my power.
If someone could do better than me, than yes, that's what any leader should do if it proves too much.
Then Russia is out of luck. If Putin is the best they have to offer, then Russia will never be trusted.
What terrifying things? I wouldn't invade unless they invaded first, remember?
Lol, more like he's shameless. Even if he has more guts than you, guts alone doesn't make you a good person.
I don't believe in karma either, as karma isn't even a christianity thing, but part of Hinduism and other less known religions.
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@Neumexa I don't need to decide. Good and evil is written in stone. Based on what is good and what is evil, that makes me a better person than Putin.
Hardly overconfident. I compare everything I did in my life so far over my 35 years of existance, to what Putin did in recent years, and that alone would allow me to reach the conclusion that I'm a better person than he is. There's no other conclusion I could draw, no matter how much I think about it.
Hardly the case. Bugs aren't people, and aren't innocent either. God doesn't care for any bugs and animals, specially if the killing is needed.
It started in 2014, when Russia backed the separatists.
They were killed due to coleteral damage from both sides. Had separatists not started a civil war, there would be no civilian deaths.
Maybe they both are. But that's besides the point. Provocation is no excuse to invade. If provocation was all it took to kill people, then the entire world would be burning by now.
There's no such thing in war, but if war is going to happen anyway, might as well make sure that you are on the defending side against invasion so that you are morally justified in invading them back in retaliation.
If people died because my enemies attacked, that would be my enemies fault, not mine. Which would justify an invasion in retaliation.
You understimate me, if you honestly think I can't stay clean in politics. Once again, popular opinion doesn't matter, only what God thinks.
That's fine. Lasting long or not. I would do what is right. I don't care what happens to me to do what is right.
Simple. Do what is right. Let them hate. Whatever would happen, I would do what is morally right.
Of course it's trusted by countries who share his moral bankrupcy. It's hatred of the west that unites them, more than trust. If it benefitted them, they would gladly backstab each other.
That's fine by me. The blood of invaders is justified. Killing evil people and invaders is morally right.
Guarantees? Lol. It's Russia we are talking about here. Russia was always been good at stopping invasions cold in it's tracks (Literally). Also, nobody can guarantee anything on such scale. The best one can do is to stick with what is right and do all that is whitin one's power to defend it.
I am already a good person. What others think doesn't matter. Same for Putin, it doesn't matter if his people think he's a good person, because his sins are too big for him to be one.
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@Neumexa If all one does is rely on artillery, then they will eventually run out of ammunition. You can't invade a country whitout troops on the ground. Also, an artillery attack would pretty much qualify as an invasion attempt, making it justified to invade in retaliation.
Donbas rebels are Ukraine's concern, not Russia's. Russia should care about the people whitin it's borders, it's citizens.
Then you don't see any problem with killing Donbas rebels who clearly made their intents of hurting pro-Ukranians clear.
DeSantis isn't an old man, and that's what matters. He's not as arrogant as Trump, nor old fashioned, and since he has more to lose than an old man, he can be more easily trusted. Either way, neither Biden nor Trump will make the cut, what the Americans need is a government led by someone younger.
Both USA and Russia are a threat, and right now, Russia takes priority.
Which is not my problem. What other politicans do is their problem.
Name me countries that invaded Russia in recent years. And, no, decades ago isn't recent and you would have to be crazy to do so as well. Also, USA being invaded or not, fact is that's all the more reason, why USA has no right to invade any country, no matter what other countries do whitin their borders.
Doesn't matter, no nukes, no foul. If Ukraine didn't try to invade Russia, then Russia has no right to invade Ukraine.
Yeltsin was just another garbage, forgettable, but still garbage.
Hardly. My argument stands and thus never ran out. KGB are among some of the most ruthless organizations in the world, and you somehow don't see a problem with that.
Imagine thinking that changing insults towards EU, makes your arguments any more believable.
Doesn't matter what Russia wants. Their security concerns are meaningless, since Russia is virtually invincible in it's own land. They have nukes, that alone makes invading Russia a very bad idea even if one were to suceed in winning.
The right kind of argument. I'm 35 years, and had proper education. Putin's sins are undeniable.
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@Neumexa I will. I have no reason to believe otherwise.
More than that. I donated water and food to many people in need.
Indeed we are on different levels. I never killed innocents nor started wars. I would be a saint by comparison to him.
Exactly. "everyone", bugs aren't anyone, since they aren't people. And even among people, evil people deserve not to live.
Illegal or not, it was what Ukraine wanted as a whole, only a minority of the east side opposed it.
No double standards. West Ukraine is a majority, East Ukraine is a minoirity. If most of Ukraine rebelled, then you would have a point, but that's not the case.
What USA does wrong, doesn't justify what Russia and the rebels did wrong.
Not when those people aren't even Russian citizens, so it's none of Russia's bussiness. They are part of Ukraine, and thus they are Ukraine's responsibility to deal with as they see fit.
Exactly, and USA was wrong in invading Iraq, as a result, even if said weapons did exist.
Hardly let it happen. If there's no invasion, then there's no reason to attack. Let them hate. Doing the right thing is more important.
No it won't. Whoever attacks, is to blame. Since I'm part of the nation being attacked, that would make me a victim.
I can't kill anyone by doing nothing. Whoever shoots the bullet is the one that kills.
Simple, because whitout invasion, there can be no proof that they will attack. Thus, one shouldn't act in haste.
If their "right" doesn't correspond with what is actually right, then they are wrong.
But I didn't "understand" it. Because I don't agree with it. True morality is absolute.
Pragmatism and immorality go hand in hand quite a few times, so that doesn't necessarily make it sound better.
That's fine by me. Once they attack, I would have every right to invade.
It doesn't matter if you think it's a bad strategy or not. Morality takes priority before cold logic.
If nobody is good, then nobody is worth of living. Simple as that. Most people in this world are good.
Good thing what you think doesn't change what I am. I'm a good person no matter what you believe.
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@Neumexa I already know about that, which I already posted about in a previous post.
Which still requires ground soldiers to invade. And like I said before, if there was an attack on Russia, then Russia would have the right to invade, but since Russia wasn't attacked. Russia has no excuse.
When they rebelled against their government in 2014, the Ukranians made their choice.
And Russia shouldn't have helped. They are rebels, and they should have accepted their government or move to Russia.
And equals as they are, the ones that are attacking EU's ally, Ukraine, is Russia. Thus, we Europeans should priotize Russia.
I didn't say they were. I said most people are good. Read the post above better next time.
I didn't start anything, that was my conclusion ages ago. I'm always prepared for the consequences, specially my death. For I don't care if I live or die, as long as I do what is right.
And I pity Russians for paying attention to such a worthless man.
If only that was the only thing. KGB is just the tip of the iceberg. His actions in the past decades have been nothing but an affront to EU.
I'm not defending CIA, so why are you bringing them up? KGB was worse than CIA btw. I see plenty of problem with CIA, but I see more in the KGB.
I failed nothing though. The rest of your comment on this paragraph makes little sense, your english is mediocre.
That's fine by me. To do what is right, paying such a price is the right thing to do. You call it carelessness, but in reality, it's the only course of action to defend the dignity and morality of one's nation.
I don't watch Tiktok. Nice Ad Hominem. I watched sources from all sides. And since neither side denies that Russia invaded Ukraine, that makes it Russia's fault. No ifs or buts.
And as a result of being younger than me, you are some edgy person who thinks cold logic is everything, when morality is more important than what is pragmatic. You lack experience with life to understand what truely matter in the end.
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@Neumexa There's always a right thing to do in all decisions of import. What gives you an advantage or not, can also be imoral or not.
Never said that one wouldn't make plans. Just that those plans won't include immoral behaviour.
That's your problem if you don't think like that. Only through true morality can one build a trustworthy society.
I know the truth, so I can claim what is more important. Then you know nothing about me. Unlike you, I welcome death, when it comes. I fear losing my ideals more than I fear losing my life.
That's fine by me. When I'm dead, I don't want to go back, at least not to this world. And if I simply cease to exist, then I will never have to care about anything ever again and can rest eternally. You are free to be wrong on your opinions, but whitout morality, humanity has no worth and would be undeserving of surviving in the first place.
It's not a little bad thing, when it involves killing innocents or starting wars. A little bad thing would be stealing (and if your target of stealing is evil, then it's not a bad thing in the first place). Starting a war or killing innocents is a very big thing to do.
I wouldn't hesitate to do harm to evil people, and I wouldn't hesitate to choose to do nothing against innocents.
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@Neumexa The world being more difficult or easier, doesn't justify any imoral acts.
There's nothing to understand. People who do evil, are tainted, and are never good.
It's never early enough to be a decent human being from the start to finish.
Whetever it's natural or not, I should accept it when it happens. As long I die being what I want to be, that's all that matters.
"nothingness" is still rest. I won't have to think at all, all will cease to be and thus I will never get tired or weary, for I won't be able to feel anything.
I disagree. If I were to sacrifice ideals, I would rather cease to exist. Better to disappear and die with my integrity intact.
I don't want to experience anything more than I should, if it means sacrificing morality.
And that's fine by me. Since many people live their lives whitout ever doing anything truely evil. Humanity wouldn't go extinct, but at least 30% of the population would die out.
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@ashton1952 Oh, that's what all channels and their fans say. Even a channel dedicated to the truth would be wrong half the time, because their sources are just as trustworthy as a street thug.
That's the problem right there. Comparing them, only works, if you knew for a fact which are truthful and which aren't. Their sources could be wrong, or outright lying.
I know for a fact, that one of their sources, Scott Ritter, was proven wrong various times. He claimed the war with Ukraine would end last year with Ukraine's defeat, but it didn't.
Yes, and because I think critically, I reached the conclusion that both sides are lying to some extent, and that I should trust no one on the matter, save myself.
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@alpejohnson491 Why would Patrick show that? It would go against his own narrative, and make everyone know that his videos are staged. He never shows anything of import either.
Then explain how is Russia entering eastern Ukraine. Crimea bridge is the most direct route. They would have to be stupid to go the other way around, when doing so would be more costly. Belarus is pretty much their only choice, which requires them to take a detour.
I already know about it.
No, I'm saying, nobody should have been there in the first place, no civilians whatsoever. This is war, of Russia's creation, no less, and people are stupid enough to not expect the bridge to get attacked, when it is a valid target.
it's also impossible for civilians to not get involved in collateral damage, That's how war works. Only naive people don't understand this.
And specially so when they are stupid enough to be on a bridge that was been attacked before, and will keep being attacked as long this war lasts.
Doesn't matter what their reasons are, for none are valid, except if Ukraine had invaded Russia first. Since they didn't, Russia has no grounds for an invasion.
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@M.P.T.1.2.3 Por acaso, não. Sou de centro direita. Eu não estou do lado dos de esquerda, mas também não me associo com direitas extremas.
Os meus pais têm 65 anos, e eles não têm nada de bom a dizer dessa era, e dos meus falecidos avós, só o meu avô do lado materno tinha algo de bom a dizer. Para além disso, os vários documentos que falam dessa era, só validam a minha opinião ainda mais. Ouve também muita fome nessa era, com os meus avós a confirmarem isso. Portanto, posso facilmente dizer que tenho muita sorte em ter nascido em 1987, vários anos após a queda da ditadura.
Nunca irei concordar com um governo que acha que tem autoridade para torturar pessoas só por terem opiniões diferentes.
Temos pena que a minha educação nunca me ensinou a respeitar opiniões de lixo. Não tenho obrigação de respeitar tais coisas. Isso é liberdade de expressão.
Imagina preocupar-se com o uso correto de palavras na internet. Isto não é um livro ou um documento, eu não tenho obrigação de usar Português correto aqui.
Porque é que hei-de respeitar? Defendes monstros, não tenho obrigação de respeitar isso. Tu tens o direito de exprimir a tua opinião, mas eu não tenho a obrigação de a respeitar.
Atacaste-me primeiro. Não te esqueças do que fizeste antes, com os teus emojis estupidos alguns posts atrás.
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@ Pretty much the same thing, if they weren't with us from the start, then that means they didn't care about Europe.
Hardly. I have read more than plenty.
Which is still more appreciated than what Soviet Russia did, because unlike Russia, they weren't forced into it. Russia didn't fight to protect Europe, only itself, and thus deserves no gratitude, because any soldiers that fell, did so to protect Russia, not Europe.
"Free", huh? Thank God they didn't "Free" all of Europe. One more reason to be thankful to USA and not Soviet Russia.
Yes, and despite their ulterior motives, at least they didn't do it out of necessity. Russia only fought, because Russia was attacked by Germany, not because it cared.
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@asdf3568 Taking a cold shower is nothing, only weaklings are afraid of cold water.
People freeze to death on winter before, it won't be much different from then to now.
Simple, because EU lacks the power to sanction them.
If you can't handle those prices, then I sugest you move somewhere else, or start cutting on worthless things like cigarretes.
Pretty easily, because I believe everything I just said and see no contradictions on my statements.
Also, whatever you think I'm an hypocrite or not, doesn't matter, because your opinion is just that, an worthless opinion that doesn't change the facts.
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@asdf3568 They can just wear more clothes. And if they can't have enough clothes for that, then all more the pity, because that was nothing new before in most countries in the world.
So what? If Russia cared, they would accept their punishment with grace, and thus spare those people from that fate, but Russia doesn't care, so, there's little that can be done. And like I said before, it's easily solved by wearing more clothes on top of clothes one would usually wear.
And that's even assuming we won't have any heating, because many countries already have alternatives, specially the northern countries like Finland.
Yes it is, otherwise we would be rolling over for Putinist scum and let them do as they please. Simple, because Russia started this war, now and before back in 2014
Also, I recall being mad at USA as well whenever they did something unnaceptable, so afraid is not just Russia.
I already did. So, your point?
Lol, as if. I believe what I said, so you are mistaken. You can ad hominem all you want, but the truth is on my side, no matter how much you whine about it.
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@puffins4007 I question orders, if they aren't in accordance with my vision. EU is part of the ideal world I envision and thus, I will support it.
I don't care about the consequences. EU is more important than any consequence.
I understand it better than you, it seems. Democracy doesn't mean that you can do whatever you please. EU has rules, that the countries that joined, agreed to abide to.
Yes, it was the majority then. But who's to say that the results would be different if a vote was to be made now? 52% is a mere 3% away from being a minority.
If you aren't in a recession, then what you call the current economic crisis you have? If that's not one, then Germany isn't in a recession either by that logic, since they are doing well enough even with this so called recession. EU isn't in a recession, Germany is, or so you people claim.
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@carlosnavarro-cj2jv I will, since I know better than you.
A nuke is by definition, a nuclear weapon.
It doesn't matter what the mechanism is, if the resulting explosion isn't nuclear.
"A nuclear weapon is a device that uses a nuclear reaction to create an explosion. This explosion is much more powerful than that of conventional explosives (like TNT). When a nuclear weapon explodes, it gives off four types of energy: a blast wave, intense light, heat, and radiation."
So, the mechanism doesn't matter. What matters, is the result of said weapon. No radiation, means no nuke.
Never said that it was the size that mattered. But do keep talking and making a fool out of yourself by putting words in my mouth. Even a 1kt nuclear explosion would have destroyed the camera.
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@margaretclarke3643 The world is more important than one's own. What affects the world also affects your own.
Not to mention that it's selfish to priotize your own circle over others. All people must be treated propely, whetever they are strangers, family or friends. No one should be given special treatment.
The bible is full of garbage like that, which is meant to control the masses. Not to mention that by God's own words, we are supposed to be all brothers and sisters, meaning that all are our own.
On top of that, who's to say that our country is part of our own? The bible is pretty vague about that.
Most people in a country are strangers, so if we go by that logic that strangers aren't a priority, then neither should be fellow countrymen be considered part of the circle.
I would gladly ignore my own, if they don't need any help. There's a difference between helping people that actually need it, and helping with minor 1st world problems.
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@PerceivedREALITY999 They should have obeyed the law, instead of rebelling. Russia revelead itself as hostile to Ukraine and thus it's culture must be driven out from Ukraine.
Also, if ethnic Russians were being treated as subhuman, which is Russia's narrative, why only Donbas is targeted? There are more regions where ethnic Russians exist, so why only Donbas?
Correction. The Ukranian military was been fightning against the separatists, not indiscriminately. As in all wars, collateral damage happens, which by the way, Donbas separatists are also to blame. So if you are blaming Ukraine for that, you should also blame Donbas rebels for killing people in their exchanges with Ukraine forces.
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@yourcrazybear I don't see any monster, but something glorious that persists to this day. Now if we are talking about EU leadership, you are right that it's failing to live up to EU's glory and needs to be changed in the future.
You mean correct. EU has the right to expand wherever it pleases, as long countries willingly join them.
I couldn't care less what you wrote, I'm correct either way, and thus I fixed what you said, so you aren't wrong anymore. If you want to continue to be wrong, that's on you.
No, I'm an idealist. I love this "monster", so...
I want EU to expand it's power, and the Euro to remain, so I fail to see how that is a bad thing.
No thanks. EU should be a political and economical alliance. Europe must be united, and this is the only way to do it whitout using force. War isn't the answer to unite Europe.
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@nemo6282 Invasion, starting a war, instigating separatists to violence, sabotage. Russia can be accused of those at the very least.
Their "security concerns" are bull. They have nukes and a supposedly superior army. If anything, it is Ukraine who has "security concerns" about Russia.
The Minsk Accords are worthless if separatists don't respect their side of the bargain, they attacked Pro-Ukranians many times.
They have plenty of choice, they could haven't invaded at all.
Those aren't their people, they are Ukranian citizens. UN charter 51 only applies to nations. Donbas isn't a nation but an Ukranian region, and it's thus a Ukranian matter for them to deal with it as they see fit. If anything, it's Ukraine who is being attacked, so they have the right to defend themselves against separatist scum and Russia.
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@EmissaryOfDeath111 Nothing skewed about it. I'm not blaming anyone from current era for something that happened centuries ago.
I understand what pain is, but the victims and the culprits of centuries ago, don't care anymore. They lack the life to do so.
No, it shows that you are stuck in a past that isnt' even yours. Why should I take responsibility for something that I wasn't even born to be blamed for? Also, you do realize that your own people's ancestors sold slaves to those invaders right? If you are going to blame us for something that happened that long ago, you can also blame your own people then for the same.
I don't want you to forget it. I want you to realize that it's not your life, it was theirs. You aren't the one being stomped, so stop trying to victimize yourself.
You are right, it is not faith that absolves me, because I was never to blame for what happened centuries ago in the first place. For I didn't even exist to do anything wrong to those people.
There's no heaven or hell to begin with, for none deserve eternity in either.
Only reincarnation at best, the void at worst. And I have done no evil to regret in the first place.
Exactly. Meaning their pain is their responsibility. If you can't handle the pain and the responsibility, then don't birth child. Obviously, my mother could handle the pain and the responsibility, thus I was born. Either way, it's not my fault.
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Dark Clouds Correction. This war has been interrupted between 8 years.
Russia started it by invading Ukranian soil, just like they provoked the conflict 8 years ago by promising sweet nothings into Donbass ears.
Ukraine is losing some and winning some, as far as I'm aware, it's pretty much a stalemate.
Russians are definetely killing civilians. As for Azov, I have yet to see proof that wasn't most likely edited to further Russia propaganda.
Zelensky is a hero for rallying his people against Russian invaders, and has been elected on 2019, meaning he has little to do with previous years corruption.
If the US has anything to do with Ukraine's defense, I would applaud them for it, so not sure why you think that's a bad thing.
No, it's mostly Russia's fault. China has yet to do any decisive actions, and India claimed neutrality, so they are given the benefit of doubt.
If they lack a good reason to not sanction Russia, then yes, that would make them enemies of some kind.
Maybe they are, I don't care about the arms race. I'm more concerned with Ukraine, and hope they repel the Russian agressors.
Nord Stream 2 isn't a thing I care about.
No, it was meant as a dumb attempt to insult EU.
I approve of missiles being put on Ukraine so they can use them against Russia should they invade like they did now.
Yes, Putin is a dictator, I don't think he wants to bring back USRR, but I do think that he's paranoid, which is why he invaded Ukraine.
And I think you shouldn't do research from self-proclaimed "independent" professionals.
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@andyman8630 Yes, I would. Since it's the wishes of most of Ukraine. There is no ehtnic cleansing. If there was, they would have to kill more than 50% of Ukranian population, and it wouldn't take 8 years to burn Donbas to the ground, a single year would be more than enough to kill everyone living there. 8 years is too inefficient, if ethnic cleansing was their goal.
Then you see wrong, for I know better than you.
Correction. I have no interest in neither western or eastern propaganda. Like you are in any position to educate someone who knows better than you. Such arrogance.
I already watched it before, I disagree strongly with it as it's mostly eastern propaganda.
Forced my ass. Russia wasn't invaded, and NATO is no threat as long Russia has nukes. The only time one can justify invasion, would be if Ukraine had invaded Russia, which they never did.
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@zawiszaczarny3620 Then you don't get to decide what you think I am, by your own admitance.
I already examined it many times. No matter how you look at it. Invasion is wrong, and Russia did invade Ukraine. EU is Ukraine's ally, and thus must support it with what they can.
That's on you. The only thing certain in this world, is life, death, and good and evil. All things are a gamble, every living moment, for there is always a risk to everything you do, even getting yourself out of the bed.
Ugly head? It's beautiful. I think you mean the politicians, not the EU ideal itself.
A few countries might do that, but they don't represent EU as a whole.
Only if we are attacked first. Don't use force on us, and most of us will not use force.
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@besov1985 USA and Russia both have blame in all of this, but specially Russia.
I don't care if it's more expensive if it means not buying Russia's gas, at least not directly anyway.
I don't forget anything, that house is there to stay.
Russia is to blame, Russia armed separatists in 2014, Russia invaded Ukraine. You don't get to tell me it's not to blame because they took direct action against Ukraine, no ifs or buts about it.
I don't care how many times you were in Crimea. Only because they have no choice but to be happy, or face the consequences of opposing Putin. They could have peace, if they didn't betrayed Ukraine as well.
I understand it. I don't care if they are "your" people, because they are Ukranian citizens.
I wouldn't give a fig about an ethnic Portuguese being a Russian citizen, for he would be no longer one of my people. So why should you care?
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@texasmarine1746 Yes, I do. If it's written in paper, then it makes it so. Whetever they are manipulated by outside forces or not, that's irrelevant to the definition of a government. Either way, it's not an invasion. If Haiti was a government that makes it a nation and they ask USA to enter their territory, that isn't an invasion. If instead, Haiti was an American colony, then it's not an invasion either, because it would be American territory.
No, I think Ghadafi was killed because he was inconvenient to USA, not because they cared about the evils he commited against his own people. He deserved to die ,by the way, unfortunately Lybia also suffered for it.
USA isn't right, so why would that make other countries right in doing the same?
Simple. Because he invaded Ukraine, and Donbas isn't a nation, meaning that aiding them, means invading Ukraine.
Bosnia was an independent state, unlike Donbas.
If their goal was to get rid of non-jews. Then they are sure taking their sweet time, and somehow only targeting Donbas regions, when they would have to target most of Ukraine. Russian blood is everywhere in Ukraine. 8 years is way too long to kill non-jews, when they could easily burn Donbas to the ground. So it doesn't add up.
Don't tell me you are one of those people, who honestly believe that Japan isn't it's own country but an American colony.
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@danielcuddihy4273 Not propaganda, reality. And if we are going the propaganda route, then reminder that Russian media also wages their own propaganda.
None of that matters. Russia invaded, no excuses are acceptable.
Ukraine isn't a pawn, they were attacked, thus they must defend themselves, with or whitout NATO.
It doesn't matter what US did or didn't. Ukraine doesn't need Russian puppet governments.
Russia getting annoyed at Russian speaking people who are Ukranian citizens, is none of their bussiness. On top of that, they armed the separatists and caused the civil war, so they have no right to complain.
Maybe USA has a lot of answer, but no EU. And despite everything you said, you have failed to provide a valid reason to invade. Since Russia wasn't invaded by Ukraine, that means Russia has no right to invade.
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@simulationbros Please, that's nothing. 2008 was bad, and it wasn't nothing we couldn't handle.
Also we aren't in double digit. Most countries are below that number. Not to mention that double digit isn't that big deal even if we were.
Makes no difference. EU can adapt. There are many things we didn't do before, but now we do, don't we?
That's what you believe, Russia is worse. And corrupt or not corrupt, they are still our allies, as the Association Agreement says so.
That's fine by me. Corrupt country or not, innocent people still live there, and if it saves even a few people, then it was worth it.
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@gerhardkotze5934 The referendum was a sham. So it's not legitimate, making Donbas regions no better than criminals.
Whetever Kiev cries or not is irrelevant. Separatist criminals must be punished.
Why would I? They deserve it for rebelling and causing a civil war. On top of dragging Russia into their mess. No forgiveness for them.
Russia isn't being encircled, and even if it was, they only have themselves to blame for threatening other countries, which made them want to join NATO.
Yes, I know, because they are paranoic against possible invasion/attack against Russia, which is just silly.
Their hypersonic missiles say otherwise. Also, it doesn't matter if Moscow can't respond in 7 minutes, because by that logic, neither can other countries against their nukes if they choose to use them. So why does Russia get special treatment? Not to mention that Moscow isn't the whole Russia, even if Moscow is attacked, other cities can still respond.
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@gojobuddy You mean mostly right.
As they should for their rebellion and starting a civil war.
They shouldn't have asked, they should have surrendered to Ukraine.
The Minsk agreement wasn't respected by separatists nor Russia, so no reason for Ukraine to do the same. The agreement is worthless.
Wrong. The Minsk agreement doesn't say anything about NATO expansion
"This agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement's signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement's provisions were never fully implemented. The former German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier suggested a mechanism of granting an autonomy to Eastern Donbas only after "the OSCE certified that the local elections had followed international standards, called the Steinmeier formula."
So, those international standards weren't respected by the separatists. And let me remind you that the key word here is "autonomy" not "independence".
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@tommytells370 It doesn't matter what they choose, their referendum was illegal, and didn't get Ukraine's permission to become independent.
As he should have been overthrown, he was a Russian puppet.
It doesn't matter what they accept or don't accept, those lands are Ukranian territory, and thus they only have 2 choices, obey the government, or leave Ukraine.
Yes, it was a charade. Separatists keep fightning despite agreements, neither side would cease fire. It was all just a ploy so that Russia could get itself some excuses to invade in the future. You mean Separatists violated the ceasefires first. Ukraine has no reason to respect them since separatists didn't respect them.
The republics of Donbass are a myth created by Russia. They don't exist.
There is no valid justification for invasion no matter the excuses Russia makes.
Ukraine didn't backstab anything. Russia did it.
No country is ever justified in invading another, unless said country invaded them first. Russia is in the wrong here, no matter what.
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@TheBlackaddar Ukraine could win, if Europe was more willing to help.
Not to mention, that is preferable to die than let Russia trample them.
Yes, it's always worth it to oppose Putin's forceful methodes.
I don't care how terrifying it is, as long it's Russia's fault.
They should sit tight, since their economy also depends on the west, not just Russia.
I'm well aware that isn't a child's game, which is why we should be ready to gamble everything, including our lives to stand against Russia.
As a believer in Deontology, I don't care about consequences, I care about the methodes. Only through righteousness, can humanity prove being worthy of existing. If we can't have righteousness, then we deserve nothing but death.
Then let us have fate decide what will happen. Either way, whoever pulls the trigger will be the one at fault, no matter what happens.
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@alexeyshierman5023 As they should abolish. Russian influence must be removed, their language included from Ukraine. Not to mention that spies could use Russian language to communicate.
Indeed it is okay. Russian influence must end on Ukraine for them to be truely independent.
Says who? Democratic countries abolished many things before. Drugs for instance, lifestyles, etc... for instance, abortion is illegal in some countries, democratic or not.
A democratic nation has the right to pass laws, and most of Ukraine was okay with those laws, only the Russian minorities were not okay with it. Which by the way, they shouldn't even be in Ukranian territory.
They should either accept the government's laws, or go to Russia, where they belong.
It might have played a role, but it was Russia who lighted the match for the conflict. Invasion is definitive factor that determines who's to blame.
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