Comments by "PNH 6000" (@PNH-sf4jz) on "Anders Puck Nielsen"
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I agree with your comment and have supported it. Yes, I believe that there is a degree to which the US wants Europe to be more accountable for each country's own defense and adequate resources for defense of the whole European theatre. Though I do not believe that desire is based on malicious intent. The current political impasse in the US may even be useful to that end, for as long as required.
I also believe that the coalition/conference of ~60 countries has a plan mapped out. There is no point in Ukraine initiating full scale offensives with only half the resources required to make such offensives successful. It is my belief that once "all the ducks are lined up", that all the resources, including the air support provided by F-16s and other land-based and airforce elements are "on the ground" and ready to go, that we will then see a coordinated offensive using the full complement of resources available through the NATO Defensive Alliance and other countries assisting and supporting Ukraine.
The present situation is not one of "Russia winning", though they may gain ground from time to time. Rather, the Ukrainians are aiming at holding ground, with the fewest possible casualties, until preparation has been completed for a full-scale offensive. In the mean time, Russia has gone from fresh troops and more than four times the quantitative and qualitative firepower advantage, two years ago, in terms of land and airforce resources, combined with an "invincible Russian Black Sea fleet", to almost parity on land, loss of more than 20% of their "invincible" Black Sea fleet and and a significantly reduced airforce capacity. So the time is not being wasted by the Ukrainians. All this despite Ukraine having virtually no navy assets and a significantly smaller airforce.
A "hotter" WAR, fought more quickly would likely have caused many more deaths of Ukrainian military personnel and civilians and a great deal more destruction cause by the Russians. The Russians would likely have retained far more of their weapons than they have as a result of a slower attritional WAR. Despite not everyone being pleased with progress, I believe that Ukraine is accomplishing its goals and objectives in a methodical and purposeful manner.
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Presumably, you are referring to pro-Russian sources, such as the following which I believe to be far less credible than those used by P. A. Nielsen:
You would probably recommend reading and listening to such illegitimate characters and sources as the Russians and pro-Russians that present the classic lies, "Russian vranyo", that are presented by so many of these shills and trolls for the Russian political and military establishment. Many present their ideas and disinformation in slickly presented videos and in comments under videos. All this can be referred to as the "Russian fire-hose of falsehood".
People such as Solovyov, Skabeyeva, Mardan, Simonyan and others. Alex Jones may appeal to you, Richard Medhurst, Max Blumenthal, Garland Nixon, Matt Ehret, Tucker Carlson, Eva Bartlett, Scott Ritter, Patrick Lancaster, Gonzalo Lira, if he is still around, Douglas MacGregor, Aaron Mate, Sonja ven den Ende, and John Meersheimer, The Duran with Alex Christoforou and Alexander Mercouris, The New Atlas with Brian Berletic, Redacted with Clayton and Natali Morris. Alex Jones, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone.
Media sources may include TASS, RT {Russia Today}, the Hindustan Times, WION, the Timur Tribun ........ So, there is plenty of scope for finding the type of garbage that these people spew out and spread on behalf of the Russian establishment. Disinformation that will appeal to the pro-Russian scammers in their carefully nurtured little echo chambers.
Thanks all the same, but I am aware of these so-called proponents and sources and I strongly believe that I am in the company of the right group of people. They sure ain't perfect, but neither am I. However, I believe that "we" are a heck of a sight better than the alternative Russian brand.
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A few more thoughts that you may consider.
Alternatively, the Russians have massive underground or 'in the side of mountain' caches, like other countries, such as Iran are said to have, of military and air-force weapons that they have accumulated over the previous recent years, and can bring out at the "last minute" and spring a very unpleasant surprise. While I do not believe that is necessarily so, I believe that at least some attention must be given to the possibility, so that if the trap is sprung by the Russians, the Ukrainian military will be adequately prepared.
I most certainly hope that the Russians are reduced now, to using older, almost antiquated weapons and transport, such as T55s and T54s. However, I find it difficult to believe that Russia would have allowed their weapon stocks to be reduced to that level. That is particularly so, when the one area that the Russians should be least concerned about is the defensive alliance of countries in NATO. Surely, simple logic would not have allowed them to rely, as a last resort, on their nuclear weapons. That should be especially so, given that, if any of the Russian nuclear weapons were to be fired, Russian targets will receive a barrage by conventional weapons, that will annihilate the targets at which they would be fired. That would occur before the US, the UK, France, Germany or any other country fired any nuclear weapons.
As I was thinking about the possibility of Russia ending up requesting NATO for assistance in their defence, another possibility occurred to me. Such a situation could occur if, ten years ago, Russia decided that taking Ukraine was an all or nothing gambit. They realised that the oil and gas was only going to be a profitable market commodity for a limited number of years, given the push to "go green". So with an ever decreasing income, ageing manufacturing capacity and limited sea ports for distribution of their products, the acquisition of Ukraine, with it resources and the means of distributing products by sea, might have seemed to be a way of solving their dilemma. This situation would mean that they could attempt to take Ukraine and, if unsuccessful, could throw themselves on the mercy of what they refer to as "the west" and I prefer to call the "free world".
In the situation that I have outlined, the Russians could step right up to the point of using nuclear weapons. They would know that there would be no chance of other countries striking their territory. They would also feel safe and assured that no nuclear weapons would be fired unless they did so pre-emptively. At the point where they saw that their weapons had been exhausted and their bluff, in terms of a nuclear weapons attack, had been "called", they would then have to concede defeat and rely on the "free world" for their protection. The Russians would also know that the "free world" would not want to see the uncontrolled collapse of the Russian Federation. The "free world" would then, in some ways, feel bound by their own concerns to support Russia. This could be accomplished by something akin to the "Marshall Plan" that was instituted following the second world war. In this way, the "free world" also has a positive outcome. However, during that time, Ukraine will have had to endure the agonies of war.
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Your assumptions, as are those of many other commenters, are that advances on any given days are indicative of the potential outcome of the WAR, which are not necessarily valid propositions.
In the first three years of WWII, who would you have bet on winning. But the results during the first three years did not foretell the eventual outcome of that war, either by the Nazis or the Japanese. That was partly due to the resistence of partisans, the resolve of the British, and the success of the Russians and the Chinese, with the assistance of the original Lend-Lease Act under which the Russians, Chinese and other countries including the UK, were afforded subsequent support from the USA. Many other countries were supported under that same Lend-Lease program. However, the Russians appear to continue to believe, or to be convinced by their government, that they won WWII all by themselves.
It is amazing how the world has changed since then.
It seems to me that the vocal and raucous out-pourings of the noisy pro-Russian camp constitutes mearly the loud chorus of the "punters" from the sidelines cheering on the side on which they have placed their bets or with which they are in the employ.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/the-allies-and-the-role-lend-lease-wwii-the-russian-view
"The Great Patriotic War, as Russians call World War II, claimed the lives of more than 27 million Soviet citizens. When Putin traveled to Normandy, France to celebrate the 60th VE Day anniversary, he took with him two WWII veterans. Those veterans were members of the organization that ultimately helped to open the Museum the Allies and Lend-Lease. Shortly after Putinโs return from Normandy, the Museum of the Allies and Lend-Lease was given approval to open. The greatest contribution to the museum from the Russian government, according to Borodin, was Putinโs statement at Normandy, where he encouraged citizens to celebrate the aid the U.S. gave to Russia and to move beyond the Soviet practice of denying the importance of lend-lease."
โThe process of establishing and opening the museum was difficult,โ Borodin explained. After WWII, high level officials in the Soviet government prohibited discussion about the aid the U.S. provided. As a result, few knew what the museum was for or why such a monument existed."
https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/
Totaling $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today's currency, the Lend-Lease Act of the United States supplied needed goods to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1945 in support of what Stalin described to Roosevelt as the โenormous and difficult fight against the common enemy โ bloodthirsty Hitlerism.โ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War
China fought Japan with aid from the Soviet Union, United Kingdom and the United States. After the Japanese attacks on Malaya and Pearl Harbor in 1941, the war merged with other conflicts which are generally categorized under those conflicts of World War II as a major sector known as the China Burma India Theater.
https://history.army.mil/html/topics/apam/chinese-americans.html
In 1943 the Army Air Forces organized some support units for the China-Burma-India theater, including the 14th Air Service Group, composed predominantly of Chinese-American personnel. Other Chinese-Americans trained as pilots and aircrew and fought in Europe and the Pacific.
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Rapid End to WAR & Attrition of Military Resources.
It may be that a quick victory may not be as useful or desirable as it might seem.
There will be no military stalemate or frozen conflict "at close to the current lines". Neither will there be a ceasefire before the RuZZian military and administrative personnel have been ejected from internationally recognised Ukrainian territory. Those who have been charged and found guilty of crimes, including war crimes will be sentenced appropriately for the crimes committed.
The current conference/coalition of nearly 60 countries will continue to support Ukraine until the primary objective has been achieved. There will be no peace in this world until those goals have been achieved and Russia is, in some way, restrained from attacking other countries.
Many people are saying, "We could have ended this WAR last year, if Ukraine had been given all they needed". What people seem to forget, or simply do not know, is that:
#** February 2022 Russia had nearly 3 times as many tanks as Ukraine had prior to Feb 2022.
Russia 3,400 tanks Ukraine 1,400 tanks {60% advantage to Russians}
July 2023 Today, Ukraine's tank inventory is believed to be considerably better equipped and have greater capacity and firepower than the Russians and they now have more, outnumbering the Russians by ~50%.
Russia 990 tanks Ukraine 1,500 tanks {50% advantage to Ukrainians} #+++
#** February 2022 Russia had 14% more heavy guns and artillery in Feb 2022
Russia 2,200 Artillery Ukraine 1,900 Artillery {14% advantage to Russians}
July 2023 Today, the Artillery and heavy guns inventories are:
Russia 773 Artillery Ukraine 1,100 Artillery {42% advantage to Ukrainians} #+++
#** February 2022 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems {MLRS}
Russia 1,100 MLRS Ukraine 840 MLRS {25% advantage to Russians}
July 2023 Today, the numbers of MLRS are:
Russia 354 MLRS Ukraine 427 MLRS {20% advantage to Ukrainians} #+++
Had an all out WAR been fought in the early months of 2022, Russia would have had an advantage of more than 3:1 against Ukraine in terms of military hardware. That may well have been greater, for Russia, because of respective levels of training of military personnel on the various platforms being used, and the elements of logistics and supply.
Today, Russia's inventory of military hardware is believed to actually be less than that of Ukraine in all the categories above. Ukraine has depleted Russia of much of its land-based hardware, probably most of the best of the Russian troops and massive amounts of ammunition and also a lot of the infrastructure; railways, roads, bridges and fuel stocks and storages, that Russia relies on for movement of troops, hardware and ammunition. That depletion of Russian military assets continues.
The figures above do not include the areas where Russia retains superiority; jet fighter air-craft, Su-95 heavy bombers, ships and submarines in the Black and Caspian Seas. However, since February 2022, Russia has lost; 315 air-craft, 310 helicopters, 18 Ships and boats, including the flagship, Moskva.
By this gradual process of attrition of the hardware, equipment, ammunition and {unfortunately, from a humanitarian perspective} Russian military personnel, I believe that many lives, particularly of Ukrainian civilians and military personnel, have been saved.
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A few more thoughts on a similar theme to yours, Tord Steiro.
It is possible that the Russians have massive underground or 'in the side of mountain' caches, like other countries, such as Iran are said to have, of military and air-force weapons that they have accumulated over the previous recent years, and can bring out at the "last minute" and spring a very unpleasant surprise. While I do not believe that is necessarily so, I believe that at least some attention must be given to the possibility, so that if the trap is sprung by the Russians, the Ukrainian military will be adequately prepared.
I most certainly hope that the Russians are reduced now, to using older, almost antiquated weapons and transport, such as T55s and T54s. However, I find it difficult to believe that Russia would have allowed their weapon stock to be reduced to that level. That is particularly so, when the one area that the Russians should be least concerned about is the defensive alliance of countries in NATO. Surely, simple logic would not have allowed them to rely, as a last resort on their nuclear weapons. That should be especially so, given that if any of the Russian nuclear weapons were to be fired, Russian targets will receive a barrage by conventional weapons, that will annihilate the targets at which they would be fired. That would occur before the US, the UK, France, Germany or any other country fired any nuclear weapons.
As I was thinking about the possibility of Russia ending up requesting NATO for assistance in their defence, another possibility occurred to me. Such a situation could occur if, ten years ago, Russia decided that taking Ukraine was an all or nothing gambit. They realised that the oil and gas was only going to be a profitable market commodity for a limited number of years, given the push to "go green". So with an ever decreasing income, ageing manufacturing capacity and limited sea ports for distribution of their products, the acquisition of Ukraine, with it resources and the means of distributing products by sea, might have seemed to be a way of solving their dilemma. This situation would mean that they could attempt to take Ukraine and, if unsuccessful, could throw themselves on the mercy of what they refer to as the "west" and I prefer to call the "free world".
In the situation that I have outlined, the Russians could step right up to the point of using nuclear weapons. They would know that there would be no chance of other countries striking their territory. They would also feel safe and assured that no nuclear weapons would be fired unless they did so pre-emptively. At the point where they saw that their weapons had been exhausted and their bluff, in terms of a nuclear weapons attack, had been "called", they would then have to concede defeat and rely on the "free world" for their protection. The Russians would also know that the "free world" would not want to see the uncontrolled collapse of the Russian Federation and would then, in some ways, feel bound by their own concerns {of the "free world"} to support Russia. This could be accomplished by something akin to the "Marshall Plan" that was instituted following the second world war. In this way, the "free world" also has a positive outcome. However, during that time, Ukraine will have had to endure the agonies of war.
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So, it appears that you would prefer to have no comment or discussion of the ideas about current events, including those in Ukraine ?
It amazes me when people object to something, such as channels making comment on current events, yet, then participate in those discussions themselves. It is like someone who objects to newspapers because another person or persons actually profit by the publication of newspapers, and then buying the newspaper to confirm their objection. They might then write to the editor to complain about newspapers that "profit by the misfortune of other people".
If a person does not approve of drinking alcohol, I do not think it is appropriate to go into an hotel and tell everyone about what that person believes to be the faults and failings of others with regard to alcohol consumption. Likewise, I believe that it is inappropriate for someone who objects to YouTube videos, that do not appeal to them on the grounds of content, morality or any other reason, to join a comments page for the purpose of criticizing the presenter or the audience, of which you, #burakcaner8361 happen to be a participating member.
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ย @danwylie-sears1134ย I think that the recent turn of events has simply emphasised that it would only be Russia that would be imposing the barrier. Before the blockade was to prevent access to the Ukrainian seaports, which may have been assumed as a legitimate activity in wartime. However, since Russia had accesded to the opening of the grain shipment corridor, it was no longer perceived as acceptable for RuZZia to re-impose the blockade.
Their may also have been other forces (non-military) at play; China, Egypt and others.
RuZZia may also have caused a problem for themselves, since they were complaining that they could not ship out their fertilizer and grains. The problem of shipping Russia's fertilizer and grains, may thus have been precipitated by the RuZZians themselves. In the event that the RuZZians resumed their participation in the agreement with Ukraine, Turkey and the UN, other ships would again feel safe entering and sailing across the black Sea.
The shippers did not want to come into the Black Sea ports to ship RuZZia's grain and fertilizer because of the high risks associated with sailing that Sea.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/10/31/world/russia-ukraine-war-news
"After suspending its participation in a grain deal brokered by Turkey and the U.N., Moscow said it wouldnโt guarantee security for any cargo vessels crossing the Black Sea."
Unfortunately, Russia "cut off its nose to viciously punish its face."
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ย @karjalanvenalainen8552ย
The following text, that I composed and to which I have added a number of videos, will give you an idea of what my thoughts are about propaganda and the various people who present propaganda and the purposes for which propaganda is used. Advertising is a form of propaganda. So propaganda can be positive, benign or malevolent in intention.
How do we assess what is propaganda and what is truth or if there is any difference between the two. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, propaganda means:
: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause also : a public action having such an effect
The Oxford Languages dictionary states that propaganda means:
: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view.
"sheryn lehndorf" begins their { his or her } comment with an insult "(this "jerk")", presumably to give weight to what comes next:
"sheryn lehndorf this ''jerk'' is just a ukraine govt ''propaganist''' you want the ''truth'' read these article from these usa commentators on ''YOUTUBE''....READ THE ''REAL'' TRUTH''...from...Col McGREGOR...... ''Scott Ritter''....and the forum... ''REDACTED . INC ON ''YOUTUBE''.HERE...honest, truthful reporting ''not'' ukraine ''propaganda'' (sic) I would include among the people mentioned above, Patrick Lancaster.
All of the people or entities, noted above, offer significantly anti-Ukraine, anti-NATO, anti-USA and, or pro-RuZZian propaganda.
If an original statement is made or offered, it is valid to say that it is true that the statement has been made. However, such an assertion does not make the original statement true.
You may like to compare the 'references' to the various people, noted above, who are suggested as "reliable comentators" by "sheryn lehndorf" and the references that I have offered below, and make up your own mind about which you would prefer to follow. It is interesting to enter the names of these people or sites into your web-search bar and consider the returned lists of details.
As we know from experience in our own communities, It only takes a few people to spread malicious gossip and sow seeds of doubt. You may find, in the references below, answers to questions that have been raised in your own mind about some of the statements, such as "Ukrainians being responsible for 14,000 deaths in the Donbas region". { This issue puzzled me for quite some time } This is an accusation often made by pro-RuZZian and pro-Separatist commenters, and you will find a very clear answer to that question in the last of the videos that I have recommended. Note the question mark on the title statement of that video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoYfAYkDqTY
"CBC/Radio-Canada is a Canadian public broadcast service. Wikipedia
#RussiaUkraineWar #Russia #Putin
The Westerners helping Putinโs propaganda war on Ukraine 158,185 views 6 Jul 2022"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssYjPXBE08
"CBC/Radio-Canada is a Canadian public broadcast service. Wikipedia
#Putin #VladimirPutin #RussiaUkraine
How Putin used propaganda to justify invading Ukraine 63,895 views 25 Feb 2022"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUpVHg72riQ
"DW is a German public broadcast service. Wikipedia
#Russia #Ukraine #Propaganda
Fact check: How to see through Russia's war propaganda | DW News 223,363 views 3 Sept 2022"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B9diixt1L4
#realrussianclub #russiaukraine #russianpropaganda
Russian PROPAGANDA against Ukraine explained | Why Russians don't protest
134,175 views Premiered on 20 Apr 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORPxKY0vXsc
#CNN #News
Ex-Russian state journalist pulls back the curtain on Putin's war lies
170,930 views 19 Oct 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUpVHg72riQ
#Russia #Ukraine #Propaganda
Fact check: How to see through Russia's war propaganda | DW News
223,363 views 3 Sept 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-YKRc_b7CE
#Ukraine #War #Ctrl_Z
Ukraine bombed Donbas for 8 years? 335,225 views 29 Jun 2022
"https://www.osce.org/chairmanship/516933
"WARSAW/VIENNA, 28 April 2022 โOSCE Chairman-in-Office, Foreign Minister of Poland Zbigniew Rau and OSCE Secretary General Helga Maria Schmid have today announced that the OSCE would take immediate steps to implement the closure of the Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine."
{Note: The Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine was initiated and established at the request of Ukraine and its closure occurred because of Russia not agreeing to the extension of the mandated term of the Mission, about the same time as their invasion of Ukraine on the 24 February 2022}
"This decision follows the lack of consensus at the OSCE Permanent Council on 31 March 2022 to extend the Missionโs mandate. The OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM) was deployed on 21 March 2014, following a request to the OSCE by Ukraineโs government and a consensus decision by all 57 OSCE participating States."
https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/b/a/116879.pdf
A brief 2 page pdf statement entitled:
"OSCE SPECIAL MONITORING MISSION (SMM) TO UKRAINE: The Facts"
Another reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSCE_Special_Monitoring_Mission_to_Ukraine
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ย @limedickandrew6016ย
Not the point !!! The point is that more than 60 other countries, and the majority of their populations, are prepared to assist and support Ukraine against Russia's military aggression.
Putin and the Russian political and military establishment were quite prepared to take advantage of the fact that Ukraine had been militarily emasculated. That neutering of Ukraine was a consequence of agreements (1991), memoranda (1994) and treaties (1997) to which the Russian Federation was a party and Putin was personally a signatory. As a result of the provisions and outcomes of these agreements, it is reasonable to believe that Russia had reason to believe that Ukraine would be an easy 3 to 10 day conquest.
By condition of those agreements, Russia had assured Ukraine that Russian would not wage WAR on Ukraine but would, instead, provide Ukraine with protection and assistance if Ukraine were attacked by any other country. The UK and the US gave the same assurances, with Russia, to Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
Russia was a recipient of much of Ukraine's military assets, including the Tu-95 heavy bombers, among many other weapons that had been transferred to Russia, that have since been used by Russia in attacks against Ukraine.
While you #limedickandrew6016 attempt to put the moral sanction against Ukraine, it is the Russians that have earned themselves the moral, legal and economic sanctions that have been placed against them. Indeed, I most sincerely hope, as #volpeart2963 has said, that "Russia will not be able to bear the costs of the war economically, unlike Ukraine, which is {justifiably} supported by other countries. Slava Ukraรฏni!"
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This list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here.
Russia: Total Hardware and Tank Losses 24 Feb 2022 to 2 Nov 2023
Total - 12948, of which: destroyed: 8971, damaged: 559, abandoned: 516, captured: 2902
Tanks - 2450, of which destroyed: 1607, damaged: 139, abandoned: 162, captured: 550
Ukraine: Total Hardware and Tank Losses 24 Feb 2022 to 2 Nov 2023
Total - 4685, of which: destroyed: 3189, damaged: 359, abandoned: 175, captured: 961
Tanks - 688, of which destroyed: 454, damaged: 56, abandoned: 37, captured: 141
Russian Naval Ships and Submarines (16, of which destroyed: 11, damaged: 5)
1 Project 1164 Slava-class guided missile cruiser: (1, Moskva, sunk)
1 Project 636.3 Improved Kilo-class submarine: (1, B-237 'Rostov-na-Donu', damaged beyond economical repair)
5 Project 03160 Raptor-class patrol boat: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged)
1 Project 02510 BK-16E high-speed assault boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 640 small patrol boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 1171 Tapir-class landing ship: (1, BDK-65 'Saratov', destroyed)
3 Project 775 Ropucha-class landing ship: (1, 'Minsk', damaged beyond economical repair) (1, damaged) (2, 'Olenegorsky Gornyak', damaged)
1 Project 11770 Serna-class landing craft: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 22870 rescue tug: (1, SB-739 V'asily Bekh', destroyed)
1 Project 266M Natya-class minesweeper: (1, damaged)
Russian Total aircraft Lost
Russia - 539, of which: destroyed: 369, damaged: 36, captured: 134
Piloted Aircraft Lost
Combat Aircraft (82, of which destroyed: 78, damaged: 4)
Strategic Bombers (3, of which destroyed: 1, damaged: 2)
Transport Aircraft (6, of which destroyed: 5, damaged: 1)
Helicopters (131, of which destroyed: 101, damaged: 28, captured: 2)
Ukraine Total Aircraft Lost
Ukraine - 325, of which: destroyed: 231, damaged: 4, captured: 73
Piloted aircraft lost
Combat Aircraft (71, of which destroyed: 70, damaged: 1)
Jet Trainers (2, of which destroyed: 2)
Transport Aircraft (4, of which destroyed: 3, captured: 1)
Helicopters (37, of which destroyed: 33, damaged: 1, captured: 3)
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Speed at which War is Conducted
Had this war been fought, by the Ukrainians, with all guns blazing and super-supplies of resources, Ukraine may have fared much worse. The Russians would have reciprocated in like fashion, possibly even resorting to the use of their much vaunted tactical nuclear weapons. Had that occurred, the loss of life among civilians and military personnel and the damage to property and infrastructure could have been significantly greater.
At the present time, it appears to me that the Ukrainians are slowly but gradually making headway in the right direction. This ensures that there does not exist, or even appear to exist, what may be referred to as a stalemate or frozen conflict on which pressure could be brought to bear to sue for so-called "peace", that I doubt would lead to lasting peace for Ukraine.
Later this year or early next year, there will be available pilots trained for the aircraft expected to be provided. At that time, I would anticipate a far stronger counter-offensive to take place. The objective, at the present time, would be to make some headway and destroy as much of the stored and active resources, hardware, ammunition and, unfortunately from a humanitarian perspective, enemy personnel, as possible. Those personnel have choices. Some choices may be more palatable than others, but if Russians choose to fight in Ukraine, they face the possibility of dying by that choice.
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Your comment is absolutely ridiculous. The Russians took the trouble of sailing Five Ropucha-class Landing ships, One Ivan Gren class landing ship and one Improved Kilo-class submarine, on the dates shown below, just before Turkey closed the Bosporus Strait to war ships:
Once the Moskva was sunk, other ships damaged and destroyed and the rest of the fleet fearful of advancing to the Western shore of the Black Sea, all six of the landing ships, those not already destroyed became redundant. This is because any plans to land on the Southern coast of Ukraine had been effectively and literally scuttled. The use of the ships was then relegated to that of ferries.
What is incredible is that the military that claimed to be the "2nd strongest military in the world" is hiding behind the Surovikin defensive line that was built by the Russians to protect them from the Ukrainians. That would be both ludicrous and hilarious, if the topic were not so serious and gruesome. {RIP Surovikin. Possibly another of Pootin's "Tea or Window" victims.}
Furthermore, the remains of the much vaunted Black Sea Fleet, following damage to or destruction of 27 ships, boats and a submarine, have had to retreat from Sevastopol to the Port of Novorossiysk in Russian territory, to the East of the Kerch Strait.
In February 2022, the Black Sea Fleet was reinforced by six landing ships: Five Ropucha-class, One Ivan Gren class of landing ship and one Improved Kilo-class submarine, before Turkey closed the Bosporus Strait to war ships:
From the Baltic Fleet on February 9th
-- Minsk (127), Ropucha class of landing ship Effectively destroyed/parts
-- Korolev (130) Ropucha class of landing ship, and
-- Kaliningrad (102) Ropucha class of landing ship
From the Northern Fleet on February 11th
-- Pyotr Morgunov Project 11711 Ivan Gren class of landing ship
-- Georgy Pobedonosets (016) Ropucha class of landing ship, and
-- Olenegorsky Gornyak (012) Ropucha class of landing ship came Seriously Damaged
-- Rostov-na-Donu (B-237) Improved Kilo-class submarine. Totally destroyed
Black Sea Fleet.
-- 'Novocherkassk, Ropucha class of landing ship Totally destroyed
This following list only includes {confirmed} destroyed {hardware} vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here.
** Hardware and Tank losses 24 Feb 2022 to 10 Oct 2023 Russia
Total - 13,728, of which: destroyed: 9,581, damaged: 621, abandoned: 622, captured: 2904
Tanks - 2,607, of which destroyed: 1,713, damaged: 145, abandoned: 205, captured: 544
Ukraine
Tootal - 4,914, of which: destroyed: 3373, damaged: 395, abandoned: 191, captured: 955
Tanks - 722, of which destroyed: 487, damaged: 58, abandoned: 45, captured: 132
** Aircraft Losses 24 Feb 2022 to 10 Oct 2023
Russia
Total - 539, of which: destroyed: 369, damaged: 36, captured: 134
Combat Aircraft (82, of which destroyed: 78, damaged: 4)
Strategic Bombers (3, of which destroyed: 1, damaged: 2)
Command And Control Aircraft (2, of which destroyed: 1, damaged: 1)
Transport Aircraft (6, of which destroyed: 5, damaged: 1)
Helicopters (131, of which destroyed: 101, damaged: 28, captured: 2)
Ukraine
Total - 325, of which: destroyed: 231, damaged: 4, captured: 73
Combat Aircraft (71, of which destroyed: 70, damaged: 1)
Jet Trainers (2, of which destroyed: 2)
Transport Aircraft (4, of which destroyed: 3, captured: 1)
Helicopters (37, of which destroyed: 33, damaged: 1, captured: 3)
Among the ships damaged and destroyed are the flagship, Moskva, Four (4) of the Project 775 Ropucha-class landing ships and One Project 636.3 Improved Kilo-class submarine:
** Ships, Boats and a Submarine Lost 24 Feb 2022 to 10 Oct 2023
Last month, Ukraine's military said it had destroyed 15 Russian navy ships and damaged another 12 in the Black Sea since the start of Russia's war. 26 Dec 2023
Russian Naval Ships and Submarines (20) now 27, of which destroyed: 15, damaged: 12 )
1 Project 1164 Slava-class guided missile cruiser: (1, Moskva, sunk)
1 Project 22800 Karakurt-class corvette: (1, B-802 'Askold', destroyed)
1 Project 636.3 Improved Kilo-class submarine: (1, B-237 'Rostov-na-Donu', damaged beyond economical repair)
5 Project 03160 Raptor-class patrol boat: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged)
1 Project 02510 BK-16E high-speed assault boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 640 small patrol boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 1171 Tapir-class landing ship: (1, BDK-65 'Saratov', destroyed)
4 Project 775 Ropucha-class landing ship: (1, 'Minsk', damaged beyond economical repair) (2, 'Novocherkassk', destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, 'Olenegorsky Gornyak', damaged)
2 Project 11770 Serna-class landing craft: (1, destroyed) (1, damaged)
1 Project 1176 Ondatra-class landing craft: (1, damaged)
1 Project 22870 rescue tug: (1, SB-739 V'asily Bekh', destroyed)
1 Project 266M Natya-class minesweeper: (1, damaged)
7 unidentified/unknown
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Absolutely agreed and supported. And any such perspective would have to have been agreed to by Ukraine.
In support of your comment:
Despite the costs of the Afghan War, for the Soviet Union, not being overwhelmingly large compared to other commitments, the Soviet-Afghan War left a long legacy in the former Soviet Union and, following its collapse, for the Russian Federation.
Along with financial, economic and personnel losses {even though relatiely low by comparison to Ukraine}, it brought physical disabilities and widespread drug and alcohol addiction throughout the USSR and subsequently, to the Russian Federation.
According to scholars Rafael Reuveny and Aseem Prakash, the war contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union by:
---- undermining the image of the Red Army as invincible,
---- undermining Soviet legitimacy, and by
---- creating new forms of political participation.
I can see the same patterns emerging in the Russian WAR against Ukraine. The WAR that Russia is waging on Ukraine is going to have a far greater impact on the Russian Federation than the Afghanistan WAR had on its predecessor, the Soviet Union.
It may be possible, because of pride, arrogance, hubris, jealousy and even embarrassment, that the Russian Federation believe they have nothing more to lose and will keep fighting till they are beaten to a stand still - Total Defeat.
A lot of appearances but supported by much less substance than was earlierperceived. This is so when considering that the Russian military was viewed and possibly feared as the "2nd strongest military in the world} and also, as a potentially belligerent force.
Afghanistan - Soviet Casualties and losses {in 10 years, 1979-89}
Soviet Union:
14,453โ26,000
9,500 KIA in combat
4,000 died from wounds
1,000 died from disease and accidents
Ukraine - Russian Casualties and losses {in 20 months, 2022-23}
~300,000 KIA
~ 870,000 wounded
Another example of the application of the sunk cost fallacy in action.
The Sunk Cost Fallacy describes our tendency to follow through on an endeavour if we have already invested time, effort, or money into it, whether or not the current costs outweigh the benefits or any possible return on present or future investment.
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I really do not believe that there was any failure in the presentation with regard to discussion regarding "winding the population up". In fact, you have alluded to the mention of that possible use of the winter pause in Ander's presentation.
A discussion of the "truly heinous propaganda themes and specious narratives they've are already started using" (sic) would have taken the presentation way past the subject matter intended, and the appropriate time for its delivery.
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There is presently, and never has been any justifiable reason for Russia's WAR against Ukraine. The only reason that I can see is a high degree of hubris, pride and greed on the part of Putin and the political and military establishment of Russia. All the reasons, given at the beginning of the war, by Putin and other Russian sources, have been shown to be false:
** Protection of the interests of the Russian speaking civilian population in the east of Ukraine? Thousands have been murdered by the Russian aerial and artillery bombardments, the survivors made homeless and destitute, displaced persons within their own country, and refugees in other countries supporting Ukraine.
** Nazis? -- Ukraine has probably roughly the same percentage of people holding significantly right leaning philosophy and views among their population, as any other "free world" country and probably a smaller proportion of the population than in Russia.
** Demilitarization? -- If the conquest was going to be as easy as the Russians thought, I wonder what level of militarization the Russians thought that the Ukrainians had? The Russians must have been aware that the Ukrainian military, though possibly well trained, would not have had significant quantities of munitions and materiel. Presumably, the reason for believing Ukraine to be an easy target. Most of the military hardware, that the Ukrainians currently have, has arrived in Ukraine since the second invasion of Ukraine's territory, by Russia in February 2022, following their first invasion in 2014.
** NATO "threat"? -- In this day and age of intercontinental ballistic missiles that can be fired to the other side of the world, what reason has Putin and his Moscow menagerie to hide behind the petti-coats and hang on to the apron-strings of little sister, Ukraine. Another characteristic of a bully when issues and events are not going his way.
** De-Satan-ization -- On the 26 October 2022, I have heard that Putin has included desatanization to his list of objectives. Presumably, this WAR with Ukraine has now become a religious WAR.
Indeed there are many other countries that appear, according to comments by Putin and others from the Moscow menagerie, to be at risk of aggressive and offensive invasion by Russia, should Russia succeed in its belligerent offensive, invasion and WAR waged against Ukraine. This is completely the reverse of Russia's claims of feeling threatened by NATO. The comments, by people in the Russian establishment, maintain and support the assertion and belief that Russia should be confined and prevented from proceeding with such attacks on any other countries.
How absolutely Preposterous, Ridiculous and Pathetic is the position of Russia given their stated position, all of which has changed, from time to time, as the war proceeded, and the Russian asserted positions were, at each stage, shown to be false?
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A few more thoughts that may align with your own.
Alternatively, the Russians have massive underground or 'in the side of mountain' caches, like other countries, such as Iran are said to have, of military and air-force weapons that they have accumulated over the previous recent years, and can bring out at the "last minute" and spring a very unpleasant surprise. While I do not believe that is necessarily so, I believe that at least some attention must be given to the possibility, so that if the trap is sprung by the Russians, the Ukrainian military will be adequately prepared.
I most certainly hope that the Russians are reduced now, to using older, almost antiquated weapons and transport, such as T55s and T54s. However, I find it difficult to believe that Russia would have allowed their weapon stock to be reduced to that level. That is particularly so, when the one area that the Russians should be least concerned about is the defensive alliance of countries in NATO. Surely, simple logic would not have allowed them to rely, as a last resort on their nuclear weapons. That should be especially so, given that if any of the Russian nuclear weapons were to be fired, Russian targets will receive a barrage by conventional weapons, that will annihilate the targets at which they would be fired. That would occur before the US, the UK, France, Germany or any other country fired any nuclear weapons.
As I was thinking about the possibility of Russia ending up requesting NATO for assistance in their defence, another possibility occurred to me. Such a situation could occur if, ten years ago, Russia decided that taking Ukraine was an all or nothing gambit. They realised that the oil and gas was only going to be a profitable market commodity for a limited number of years, given the push to "go green". So with an ever decreasing income, ageing manufacturing capacity and limited sea ports for distribution of their products, the acquisition of Ukraine, with it resources and the means of distributing products by sea, might have seemed to be a way of solving their dilemma. This situation would mean that they could attempt to take Ukraine and, if un-successful, could throw themselves on the mercy of what they refer to as the "west" which I prefer to call the "free world".
In the situation that I have outlined, the Russians could step right up to the point of using nuclear weapons. They would know that there would be no chance of other countries striking their territory. They would also feel safe and assured that no nuclear weapons would be fired unless they did so pre-emptively. At the point where they saw that their weapons had been exhausted and their bluff, in terms of a nuclear weapons attack, had been "called", they would then have to concede defeat and rely on the "free world" for their protection. The Russians would also know that the "free world" would not want to see the uncontrolled collapse of the Russian Federation. The "free world" would then, in some ways, feel bound by their own concerns to support Russia. This could be accomplished by something akin to the "Marshall Plan" that was instituted following the second world war. In this way, the "free world" also has a positive outcome. However, during that time, Ukraine will have had to endure the agonies of war.
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The Russians may have massive underground or 'in the side of mountain' caches, like other countries, such as Iran are said to have, of military and air-force weapons that they have accumulated over the previous recent years. It may be intended to bring this military hardware out at the "last minute" and spring a very unpleasant surprise. While I do not believe this is necessarily so, I believe that at least some attention must be given to the possibility, so that if the trap is sprung by the Russians, the Ukrainian military and their supporters will be adequately prepared.
I most certainly hope that the Russians are reduced now, to using older, almost antiquated weapons and transport, such as T55s and T54s. However, I find it difficult to believe that Russia would have allowed their weapon stocks to be reduced to that level. That is particularly so, when the one area that the Russians should, in reality {not their imaginations}, be least concerned about is the defensive alliance of countries in NATO. Surely, simple logic would not have allowed them to rely, as a last resort, on their nuclear weapons. That should be especially so, given that if any of the Russian nuclear weapons were to be fired, Russian targets will receive a barrage by conventional weapons, that will annihilate the targets at which they would be fired. That would occur before the US, the UK, France, Germany or any other country ever fired any nuclear weapons.
As I was thinking about the possibility of Russia ending up requesting NATO for assistance in their defence, another possibility occurred to me. Such a situation could occur if, about ten years ago, Russia decided that taking Ukraine was an all or nothing gambit. They realised that their oil and gas was only going to be a profitable market commodity for a limited number of years, given the push to "go green". So with an ever decreasing income, ageing manufacturing capacity and limited sea ports for distribution of their products, the acquisition of Ukraine, with its resources and the means of distributing products by sea, might have seemed to be a way of solving their dilemma. This situation would mean that they could attempt to take Ukraine and, if unsuccessful, could throw themselves on the mercy of what they refer to as the "west" which I prefer to call the "free world" {More inclusive}.
In the situation that I have outlined, the Russians could step, militarily, right up to the point of using nuclear weapons. They would know that there would be no chance of other countries striking their territory. They would also feel safe and assured that no nuclear weapons would be fired unless they, the Russians did so pre-emptively. At the point where they saw that their weapons had been exhausted and their bluff, in terms of a nuclear weapons attack, had been "called", they would then have to concede defeat and rely on the "free world" for their protection. The Russians would also know that the "free world" would not want to see the uncontrolled collapse of the Russian Federation. The countries of the โfree worldโ would then, in some ways, feel bound by their own concerns to support Russia. This could be accomplished by something akin to the "Marshall Plan" that was instituted, in Europe, following the second world war. In this way, the "free world" also has a positive outcome. However, during that time, Ukraine will have had to endure the agonies of war.
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Some people are suggesting "diplomatically negotiated peace". Are they suggesting peace at any cost? It is all very well to constantly call for "peace by diplomatic negotiation". However, without any reference to the possible "diplomatically negotiated TERMS of PEACE", the words, "peace by diplomatic negotiation" are vacuous and hollow.
The RuZZian political and military establishment have shown no indication that they are sincere about working toward a peaceful settlement. Indeed, at each stage, where opportunities may have existed, the Moscow menagerie have escalated their WAR footing. Their stated reasons for the WAR have been shown, by the RuZZians themselves, to be a web of obfuscation, untruths and lies. Because of this, there are no "hooks" on which Ukraine or any other country can begin to pursue peaceful settlement. Even Turkey's President Erdogan seems to have found it difficult, even impossible, to establish preliminary points on which discussions with RuZZia may be based.
It appears to me that RuZZia, according to Putin's own words, is bent on their goal of complete subjugation and subordination of the countries within the pre-Russian Federation borders, in other words those borders of the former USSR.
In March of last year (2022), President Zelensky offered a number of concessions, including the agreement not to join NATO. { web-search "Ukraine not to join NATO" for details } However, the offer was declined or ignored by Moscow. It therefore appears that what RuZZia was stating they wanted, was a lie among so many other lies.
Following the crimes perpetrated in Bucha, Irpin, Hostomel and other villages, towns and cities, Zelensky, having discussed with Ukrainian troops, civilians and the government, hardened Ukraine's position.
If RuZZia is successful in gaining the "land bridge" to Odesa, the countries of Moldova, where RuZZia already has its "separatist" state Transnistria, between Ukraine and Moldova, and Romania, may well be subject to assault and invasion by RuZZia on pretexts similar to those that they used for the invasion of Ukraine and other states and countries.
If RuZZia is successful in subjugating Ukraine completely, the countries, in addition to Moldova and Romania, being Slovakia and Hungary, will then have land borders with RuZZian controlled territory. Finland already has a land border of 1340 km with RuZZia. Poland and Lithuania already have a border with Russia, by being adjacent to Kaliningrad. Latvia and Estonia both have land borders with Russia of 214 km and 294 km respectively. Poland also has a 420 km border with Belarus; Lithuania ~680 km and Latvia of ~173 km, respectively.
In the event that Ukraine concedes defeat or even peace by appeasement with significant concessions, it is likely that RuZZia will again wage WAR against what is left of Ukraine. If RuZZia is then successful, the remainder of the former Soviet Bloc is likely to be at risk of attack and invasion by RuZZia. This is not simply a concept; It has been stated by Putin and other members of the Russian establishment. They would expand their borders, one small country at a time.
It may also be of interest to readers, to consider the alleged war-crimes committed during the initial assault on Kyiv and also, alleged crimes associated with the presence of certain troops in the Donbas. While I definitely do not support the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine, it is of interest to note that a letter has apparently been sent to the kremlin regarding sexual attacks on the wives and daughters of Russian service personnel based in the Donbas region. It may be worthwhile, in view of such recent events, to assess the RuZZian style of operation, by reading the following article. The information relates specifically to Ramzan Kadyrov and Chechen forces in the first attacks on Kyiv and the sexual assaults in the Donbas:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/18/the-real-role-of-pro-russian-chechens-in-ukraine.
Is it any wonder that Ukrainians do not wish to return to the Jurisdiction of the Russian Federation.
Better to die with honour than to live in shame, as submissive serfs, servants and slaves in a vassal state, dominated by the RuZZian Federation, which is itself a state in a state of decline.
{The term RuZZia refers to the RuZZian Fascist-Nazi style regime that appears to be acting against the interests of their own people of Russia and the people of other countries, in particular, but not only Ukraine, at the present time.}
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I don't agree with you.
---- I can see the WAR continuing, on a muted scale, over the winter. and there will be renewed fighting after the winter, with Ukraine having improved munitions to assist them in their victory.
---- Likewise, I believe that the WAR will continue to be a major topic of dicussion and analysis during the next five to ten years.
---- The Ukrainians have shown themselves to be resilient, determined and united, in spite of a whole range of differences. These characteristics will be discussed and admired for years to come.
---- With regard to the rebuilding, I believe that process will show how united the supporters of Ukraine have become. Those same people and countries will assist the Ukrainians to move through the "end of WAR grief and despair" which will be inevitable, to a new future as a free, democratic, strong country.
---- Then those supporters will come together to assist Ukraine in the physical rebuilding process.
RuZZia, unfortunately, due to apathy or misguided intent, will find themselves in such a frigid place, that the old cold-war would feel like balmy mediteranean weather. Their losses were driven by unbridled hubris and greed and will take many years to work their way out from.
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Absolutely agreed and supported. Good to see that you and others are aware that taking ground is not always, and at all times, the best approach and tactic.
"Since the summer, volunteer units have experienced the highest number of casualties, contrasting with the figures from February and spring. In the warโs initial weeks, the Airborne forces faced the heaviest losses, followed by the Motorised rifle forces. A significant portion of those killed in action without a designated branch were volunteer fighters."
"By the end of 2022 and into the start of this year, the death toll among prisoners recruited by the Wagner PMC surged. These individuals were organised into โassault groupsโ targeting Ukrainian positions near Bakhmut. In March 2023, inmates constituted the most substantial portion of our war casualty data."
"We are aware of 181 military pilots who have lost their lives. Such losses are particularly devastating for the military: it takes approximately 7โ8 years to train one top-tier frontline pilot, and costs around $3.4 million. Every pilotโs death often means the loss of expensive equipment."
"As of August 11, weโve been able to verify deaths of over 2,400 officers, with 295 holding the rank of Lieutenant Colonel or above."
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Most of the jobs that have been vacated, I would think, to have been in the cities and likely to have been trades, clerical and professional work that people would consider that they could transfer to in other countries. Women in the age bracket are likely to be already employed or committed to caring for family members; children and older people. So I believe that the available pool of potential workers is likely to be relatively small.
There is also the question of willingness. In "recent years", prior to Russia's invasion in 2014 and again in 2022, I believe that there has been a reasonably good relationship between Russia and Ukraine through family and friends, trade, commerce, social and sports activities.. Hence Putin's previous attempts, this year, to minimise the scope of the "operation", saying that no-one will be injured or killed and troops will be careful to avoid damage to personal, community, health and education, cultural, religious, commercial and industrial infrastructure. While initially, there seemed to be a reluctance by Russians to acknowledge that Putin's statements, were not true, now, in day 245 of the 3 day operation, surely even the cosseted Russians are becoming aware of the catastrophic reality of the situation in Ukraine and consequently, in and for Russia, despite the changed, varied and ecalatory rhetoric.
In view of this, I believe that any willingness by individuals to adjust from an established position is likely to be generally low. I have estimated that the Russian economy is going to take at least a 6% hit to their economy because of the war in Ukraine by losses through conscription and the response to mobilisation.
My calculation follows in case you may be interested
The total population of Russia is ~ 145 million
~145 x 0.3473% (ages 18-44) = ~ 50 million
~50 x 0.49 (%male) = ~ 24.7 million males aged 18 โ 44
100% population divide by 25 = ~ 4% of male Russians aged 18 - 44 years of age
Assuming 3% have travelled to other countries, 1% have been mobilised for military service and two thirds of the 3% travellers = (2%) are accompanied, or will be, by wife, girlfriend, partner.
That is: 1% mobilised/conscripted, 3% travelled, and 2% companions; Total 6% of the working population (18 - 44 yrs) are removed from the regular workforce of Russia.
That means approximately:
6% per annum reduction in productive output,
6% loss of revenue through lost tax on earnings,
6% reduction in consumption of goods and services.
Those figures are probably a conservative estimate when other factors are considered, such as economic, social and psychological impacts, including family adjustments, reduction in property rentals, and other family, community, and national adjustments disruptions and dislocations / re-locations.
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Except that the NATO Defensive Alliance is, as it's name states, defensive in nature, function and action. NATO, by its charter, cannot act in a belligerent fashion. If NATO acted in that fashion, such action would undermine the whole intent of its function and reason for its existence. The Alliance would be acting in a fashion, just as Putin incorrectly claims, as a military threat to Russia. Any such action would then be justification for Russia to further escalate their actions against and response to military actions initiated by any member country of the NATO Defensive Alliance, or the Alliance as a whole. Consequently, as frustrating as it may be, NATO can only respond to belligerent provocation, whether by Russia or any other country. NATO cannot act as the provocateur. If the Alliance acted in such a manner, it would be putting itself and its members in exactly the same position as that for which Russia is justifiably condemned.
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ย @u2beuser714ย You need to bring yourself and the country that you represent into the present century. We are now in the 21st Century, not the 18th Century. It is also worth noting that the Ukrainians, without a navy, have reduced the "invincible Russian Black Sea fleet" by more than 20% with the destruction of 15 ships and as many smaller boats again, of the 70 ships and boats of the reinforced Black Sea fleet.
The Great Northern War and the Rise of Russian Sea Power
By Eric Mills June 2023 Naval History Magazine Classic Sea Fights
Europe has produced its share of mighty empires down through the ages, and when you run the list of them through your head, the one that probably doesnโt spring first to mind is Sweden. But during the 16th and 17th centuries, Sweden indeed achieved great-power status and oversaw a Northern European empire that rendered the Baltic Seaโas geostrategically vital then as it is todayโa virtual Swedish lake. By controlling the Baltic, Sweden had a chokehold on the fortunes of all the nations along its rim.
Resistance to such dominance was eventually inevitable. And when a coalition of kingdoms united against Sweden in the Great Northern War of 1700โ1721, they thought their prospects looked pretty goodโbecause the new Swedish king, Charles XII, was a mere stripling of a lad, all of 14 years old.
โCharles XIIโ and โTsar Peter I.โ
The boy-king proceeded to quickly disavow them of their overconfidence. In a series of remarkable campaigns, Charles displayed a flare for audacious, ingenious strategy and tactics. He thwarted an attack from the Danes by laying siege to Copenhagen and forcing them to the negotiating table. He humiliated a far larger Russian army at Narva. He repulsed the forces of Saxony at Riga. With each stunning victory, the wunderkind left the coalition forces arrayed against him in fearful awe.
But the heady wine of such success was too strong for the adolescent monarch, engendering in him a false sense of invincibility and unerring genius. And Charles XII morphed from someone reminiscent of Alexander the Great during his legendary winning streak to someone more akin to Adolf Hitler from June 1941 on, spoiled by early success and convinced of his own brilliance, proceeding to make one fatal blunder after another, obsessed to the point of self-destruction with that tantalizing target that would lay many a would-be conqueror low: Russia.
After Swedenโs crushing defeat by the Russians at the Battle of Poltava in 1709, it was all over but the shouting for the Swedish Empire, though the war would drag on. In Russiaโs leadership, the bold King Charles XII had met his match: Tsar Peter IโPeter the Great. Peter realized his imperial ambitions for Russia required that it be not just a land power, but a sea power as well.
And therein lay Russiaโs perpetual problem: access to a warm-water port. Peter the Greatโs attempt to build a Black Sea Fleet came crashing down ignominiously in the face of Turkish naval superiority in 1710. With Black Sea hopes dashed, Russia was left with another option for warm-water access to the open ocean: the Baltic. There was, of course, the little matter of Sweden standing in the way.
Peter had made bold moves in that direction: carving outโfrom ostensible Swedish territoryโthe coastal location for what would become St. Petersburg, expanding outward to wrest control of more of the surrounding coastline, building up a fleet. The vessels were ungainly in design, made from less-than-ideal wood, with subpar cannon manned by crews inferior in their gunneryโbut a fleet nonetheless. Peter the Great was many things, one of them being a naval visionary. He was the father of the Russian Navy, founder of the Russian Naval Schoolโthe tsar who worked himself through the ranks to truly acquire the skills and honestly attain the rank of rear admiral. And he had a valuable mentor in the form of Count Fyodor Apraksin, Russiaโs first admiral (and a general of renown before that). Together, these two would sail forth with their newly minted Baltic Fleet and trounce the Swedish at the decisive Battle of Gangut, aka the Battle of Hangรถ, on 17 August 1714 (27 July by the Gregorian calendar).
{Graphic painting: 1714 Battle of Gangut Russiaโs Baltic Fleet surrounds and decimates the Swedish enemy at the 1714 Battle of Gangutโa clash that heralded the emergence of a new naval power. Public Domain}
The Swedish fleet under Rear Admiral Nils Ehrenskjold had them bottled up in the Gulf of Finland, and the Russians were determined to break through. Ehrenskjold, greatly outnumbered by the 100-galley Russian fleet, made use of the narrow channel to array his ships broadside to the foe. So while the Russians had the advantage in numbers, the Swedish had the advantage in positionโone that cramped the efforts of the enemy ships.
Twice the Russian galleys charged, only to be repulsed by the Swedish line. On the third attack, they focused on the flanks and broke through, overpowering Ehrenskjoldโs flanking galleys, boarding them in such overwhelming numbers that one of them sank under the sheer weight. By now, Ehrenskjold was wounded and his flagship was on fire. He surrendered as the Russians swooped in from all sides.
โPeter took tremendous pleasure and pride in this victory, which he considered equal in importance to Poltava,โ noted biographer Ian Grey. At the great Battle of Poltava, Peter โhad defeated Swedenโs army; now, he had defeated her navy. His dearest ambition had always been to make Russia a sea power.โ With the Battle of Gangut, โhe realized this ambition.โ
To this day, Russiaโs Navy Day, a national holiday marked by parades and fanfare, takes place on the last Sunday in July in honor of the battle. And traditionally, the Imperial Russian Navy always made it a point to have one ship in service named the Gangut, a name worthy of memoryโfor it was the first major victory of the Russian Navy.
2023 - 2024 Russia loses 20% of its supposedly "invincible Black Sea fleet" to Ukraine, a country having no navy.
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Hello ย @burakcaner8361ย Likewise, I appreciate your response. Thank You.
The sentiments you have expressed are also thought and felt by me, as I am sure is the case for literally millions of other people.
Unfortunately, as a result of watching videos of interviews with Russians on the "1420" channel, it appears to me that Russians are deliberately oblivious to, do not care about or are willfully ignoring the murders being perpetrated by their government in the name of the Russian population. Even the murders of people like Prigozhin and Utkin. But also of people with less contentious backgrounds, both inside Russia and in other countries.
As someone who is retired and, with significant mobility issues, the WAR, waged by Russia against Ukraine, and the recent and longer term history of the two countries and others also, prior to the WAR, has been prominent in my attention each day for the past eighteen months.
Anders Puck Nielsen presents information in a way that makes his channel, as you say, "a clean one when compared to the others." I value and appreciate his perspectives on the WAR, because, for the most part, he presents his information objectively and clearly states where he is confident in his assesments, or may be offering an opinion in an area where he may be less confident, informed or experienced. For these reasons, his views and those of Jake Broe are the channels with which I am most comfortable and rely on for quality information.
There are, however, times when I feel scorched and jaded, either by the intensity of the topic and the terrible consequences of WAR, that I deliberately have to go back to some of my other preferred channels on gardening, technical projects and household activities for a break, distraction and diversion.
I also have to constantly remind myself, that I cannot change the world and can only reach a miniscule and immensely small proportion of people on the relatively small number of channels where I participate and am active.
Hoping that this note is not, itself an overload. It is pleasant, though, to be able to communicate with people who are sensitive to the nuances of the WAR and also other aspects of life in our world.
With Best Wishes, PNH Peregrine
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Ukraine is losing territory like they did when Russia withdrew, retreated and were routed from Kyiv, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and Kherson. Interestingly, it was Kherson, about which Putin and the Russian political, military and media establishment held a big celebration, claiming "Russia in Kherson forever". A few weeks later, Russian troops had withdrawn from the city of Kherson and retreated to the left bank of the Dnieper River, where they are now being pursued by the Ukrainians.
Zmiinyi Island {Snake Island} and the recovery of the oil rigs were other similar achievments for Ukraine. The breaking of Russia's blackade of the Ukrainian Black Sea ports has also been a victory for Ukraine. The withdrawal of the Russian Black Sea fleet from Sevastopol to the port of Novorossiysk is another success for Ukraine.
Yeah, Sure, Ukraine is "losing" territory in reverse. Russia illegally occupied 28% of Ukraine's internationally recognised territory in 2022. Russia now illegally occupies less than 15% of Ukraine's internationally recognised territory today and that is diminishing.
"This list only includes {confirmed} destroyed {hardware} vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here."
Source: ORYX website: "hardware losses in Ukraine".
Ukraine - Total hardware, equipment and Tank losses 24 Feb '22 to 10 Oct '23
Total - 4804, of which: destroyed: 3287, damaged: 377, abandoned: 187, captured: 953
Tanks - 697, of which destroyed: 468, damaged: 57, abandoned: 39, captured: 133
Russia - Total hardware, equipment and Tank losses 24 Feb '22 to 10 Oct '23
Total - 13370, of which: destroyed: 9299, damaged: 601, abandoned: 564, captured: 2906
Tanks - 2526, of which destroyed: 1654, damaged: 141, abandoned: 183, captured: 548
Russian Naval Ships and Submarines (-19- Now 22, of which destroyed: 12, damaged: 7
1 Project 1164 Slava-class guided missile cruiser: (1, Moskva, sunk)
1 Project 22800 Karakurt-class corvette: (1, B-802 'Askold', destroyed)
1 Project 636.3 Improved Kilo-class submarine: (1, B-237 'Rostov-na-Donu', damaged beyond economical repair)
5 Project 03160 Raptor-class patrol boat: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged)
1 Project 02510 BK-16E high-speed assault boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 640 small patrol boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 1171 Tapir-class landing ship: (1, BDK-65 'Saratov', destroyed)
3 Project 775 Ropucha-class landing ship: (1, 'Minsk', damaged beyond economical repair) (1, damaged) (2, 'Olenegorsky Gornyak', damaged)
2 Project 11770 Serna-class landing craft: (1, destroyed) (1, damaged)
1 Project 1176 Ondatra-class landing craft: (1, damaged)
1 Project 22870 rescue tug: (1, SB-739 V'asily Bekh', destroyed)
1 Project 266M Natya-class minesweeper: (1, damaged)
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ย @vestland3877ย "Most Europeans are terrified of guns .....", which is probably the very reason that most people from the "free world", and most in Europe or their parents, know what it is like to be told, at the muzzle of a gun, what to do. Unfortunately, many in Ukraine have suffered far worse treatment. If Ukraine were to submit to RuZZia's demands, which country would be next ? You might feel safe because you have Finland as your "buffer zone". It's all very well to be sanctimonious when you are behind the back of someone else.
So, Vestland, it's not the impression that I have had of your countrymen, that you would be wanting to hide behind the petti-coats and hang on to the apron-strings of sister country, Finland, in the way that Pootin wants to hide behind sister country, Ukraine, for fear of the big, bad wolf that is the defensive alliance NATO. Of course that is not all Pootin is claiming. Another characteristic of a bully when issues and events are not going their way. However, in the face of a bully and his mates, we ask friends to help, as Ukraine has justifiably done.
In March of this year (2022), President Zelensky offered a number of concessions, including the agreement not to join NATO. { web-search "Ukraine not to join NATO" for details } However, the offer was declined or ignored by Moscow. It therefore appears that what RuZZia was stating they wanted, was a lie among so many other lies. Following the crimes perpetrated in Bucha, Irpin, Hostomel and other villages, towns and cities, Zelensky, having discusssed with Ukrainian troops, civilians and the government, hardened Ukraine's position.
Better to die with honour than to live in shame, as submissive serfs and slaves in a vassal state, dominated by the RuZZian Federation, which is itself in a state of decline and approaching the condition of a failed state.
{The term RuZZia refers to the RuZZian Fascist-Nazi style regime that appears to be acting against the interests of their own people of Russia and the people of other countries, in particular but not only Ukraine, at the present time.}
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There is presently, and never has been any justifiable reason for Russia's WAR against Ukraine. The only reason that I can see is a high degree of hubris, pride and greed on the part of Putin and the political and military establishment of Russia. All the reasons, given at the beginning of the war, by Putin and other Russian sources, have been shown to be false:
** Protection of the interests of the Russian speaking civilian population in the east of Ukraine? Thousands have been murdered by the Russian aerial and artillery bombardments, the survivors made homeless and destitute, displaced persons within their own country, and refugees in other countries supporting Ukraine.
** Nazis? -- Ukraine has probably roughly the same percentage of people holding significantly right leaning philosophy and views among their population, as any other "free world" country and probably a smaller proportion of the population than in Russia.
** Demilitarization? -- If the conquest was going to be as easy as the Russians thought, I wonder what level of militarization the Russians thought that the Ukrainians had? The Russians must have been aware that the Ukrainian military, though possibly well trained, would not have had significant quantities of munitions and materiel. Presumably, the reason for believing Ukraine to be an easy target. Most of the military hardware, that the Ukrainians currently have, has arrived in Ukraine since the second invasion of Ukraine's territory, by Russia in February 2022, following their first invasion in 2014.
** NATO "threat"? -- In this day and age of intercontinental ballistic missiles that can be fired to the other side of the world, what reason has Putin and his Moscow menagerie to hide behind the petti-coats and hang on to the apron-strings of little sister, Ukraine. Another characteristic of a bully when issues and events are not going his way.
** De-Satan-ization -- On the 26 October 2022, I have heard that Putin has included desatanization to his list of objectives. Presumably, this WAR with Ukraine has now become a religious WAR.
Indeed there are many other countries that appear, according to comments by Putin and others from the Moscow menagerie, to be at risk of aggressive and offensive invasion by Russia, should Russia succeed in its belligerent offensive, invasion and WAR waged against Ukraine. This is completely the reverse of Russia's claims of feeling threatened by NATO. The comments, by people in the Russian political and military establishment, maintain and support the assertion and belief that Russia should be confined and prevented from proceeding with such attacks on any other countries.
How absolutely Preposterous, Ridiculous and Pathetic is the position of Russia given their stated purposes, all of which has changed, from time to time, as the war proceeded, and the Russian asserted positions were, at each stage, shown to be false?
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I hear what you are saying about regard for President Zelensky. However, I doubt that there are many politicians, or people, whatever their moral compass and ethical standards, who feel that they have a right to "pick up the first stone" and attack another.
My support for Ukraine is based on the apparently united action that Ukrainians have taken under Zelensky's leadership, in defence of their country.
It is also apparent from various statements made by Ukrainians and others, that Ukrainians are aware that they are not only fighting to protect their own freedom, but also that of many other countries in Europe. If Ukraine were to be controlled by RuZZia, then other countries, according to statements made by Poo-tin {Putin} and other members of the Moscow menagerie, would be at risk of pressure or attack by Moscow.
IF RuZZia can improve their access to the Suwalki Gap, possibly by threatening Poland, Lithuania or both, it would drive a land wedge and bridge between the northern and southern members of NATO.
If Ukraine should fall to RuZZia, the northern NATO member countries of Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland would be at risk of attack by Ruzzia, as would Moldova {a friend and co-operator with NATO}, Romania, Hungary and Slovakia. And being further away, as are Germany and France, seems not to be a guarantee of safety.
If Ruzzia succeeds in its quest to take Ukraine, or even just the east and south-eastern parts of Ukraine, it has access to all the resources of that region, and the industrial potential, since it seems to have destroyed much of the existing infrastructure. It also, then, would have control of the Azov Sea and a major portion of the Black Sea for transport of goods and materials. It also means that Turkey, Bulgaria, North Macedonia and Greece are as vulnerable as Ukraine seems to have been.
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So you say !!! As was also perceived in February 2022, by many people in Ukraine, certainly in Russia {those that knew anything about what was going on}, as well as observers from other countries.
However, we are now in the 618th day of the 3 to 30 day "operation" and still the "2nd strongest military in the world" has not triumphed. Indeed, Russia has gone backwards as demonstrated by their retreats, withdrawals and routs from Kyiv, Sumy, Karkhiv and Kherson. Also, their massive losses of hardware and military personnel, the latter being confirmed by the need to have an ongoing mobilisation and recruitment of men for the Russian army.
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ย @stayhungry1503ย Quoting your comment "ukraine had been preparing for war backed by NATO for 8 years so only an idiot would have thought it would be an easy fight for russia." (sic)
It was Russia that claimed the potential of an easy win / subjugation / subordination / domination of Ukraine. It was Russia that had gathered all the intellgence, social, political and military. Consequently, it appears that the Russians that planned the "operation" were fools.
"Ukraine war: Captured Russian documents reveal Moscow's 10-day plan to take over the country and {eliminate} its leaders 1 December 2022
War in Ukraine
"Russia planned to start the invasion with a "massive missile and airstrike campaign" against Ukrainian military targets, RUSI says, with a list also showing who should be {eliminated}, who would be intimidated and who would be targeted as a collaborator."
"Read the Special Report: Preliminary Lessons in Conventional Warfighting from Russiaโs Invasion of Ukraine: FebruaryโJuly 2022 - by Mykhaylo Zabrodskyi, Dr Jack Watling, Oleksandr V Danylyuk and Nick Reynolds - 30 November 2022"
"now ukraine has been ground down for 618 days and russia has learned a lot of lessons. the russian army is better and stronger than it has been since the 1980s. the epic ukrainian counter offensive has turned out to be an epic debacle with losses on a scale that hasnt been seen since ww2. zelensky is now hanging on by a thread as we could read in the scathing time magazine article from a few days ago "
The Russian military was supposed to have been the "2nd strongest military in the world", and yet it is now supposed to be, in your words, "better and stronger than it has been since the 1980s." Yet has been unable to take control of a country that Russia had militarily emasculated or neutered with the acquisition of most of Ukraine's military hardware between Independence in 1991, the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 and the Russian - Ukraine Friendship Treaty of 1997 and much more. All of those agreements assuring Ukraine of Russia's total support.
I take little note of what is written in the "Time" magazine. Apparently, though, there was an article written by a Russian apologist called Simon Shuster . Even if I was interested in any more than a cursory glance at the article, I would definitely not rely on one article or even a whole magazine unless I could cross reference and fact check the information. The article seemed full of opinion and little endowed with fact
Needless to say, I absolutely support President Zelenxkyy and his goals and objectives. You, or anyone else can make subjective comments about his leadership and that of the opposition.
The Russians most certainly made fools of themselves, as is demonstrated by being in the 618th day of their 3 to 30 day "operation".
This list only includes destroyed vehicles {ships and boats, aircraft} and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here.
Russia: Total Hardware and Tank Losses 24 Feb 2022 to 2 Nov 2023
Total - 12948, of which: destroyed: 8971, damaged: 559, abandoned: 516, captured: 2902
Tanks - 2450, of which destroyed: 1607, damaged: 139, abandoned: 162, captured: 550
Ukraine: Total Hardware and Tank Losses 24 Feb 2022 to 2 Nov 2023
Total - 4685, of which: destroyed: 3189, damaged: 359, abandoned: 175, captured: 961
Tanks - 688, of which destroyed: 454, damaged: 56, abandoned: 37, captured: 141
Russian Naval Ships and Submarines (16, of which destroyed: 11, damaged: 5)
1 Project 1164 Slava-class guided missile cruiser: (1, Moskva, sunk)
1 Project 636.3 Improved Kilo-class submarine: (1, B-237 'Rostov-na-Donu', damaged beyond economical repair)
5 Project 03160 Raptor-class patrol boat: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged)
1 Project 02510 BK-16E high-speed assault boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 640 small patrol boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 1171 Tapir-class landing ship: (1, BDK-65 'Saratov', destroyed)
3 Project 775 Ropucha-class landing ship: (1, 'Minsk', damaged beyond economical repair) (1, damaged) (2, 'Olenegorsky Gornyak', damaged)
1 Project 11770 Serna-class landing craft: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 22870 rescue tug: (1, SB-739 V'asily Bekh', destroyed)
1 Project 266M Natya-class minesweeper: (1, damaged)
Russian Total aircraft Lost
Russia - 539, of which: destroyed: 369, damaged: 36, captured: 134
Piloted Aircraft Lost
Combat Aircraft (82, of which destroyed: 78, damaged: 4)
Strategic Bombers (3, of which destroyed: 1, damaged: 2)
Transport Aircraft (6, of which destroyed: 5, damaged: 1)
Helicopters (131, of which destroyed: 101, damaged: 28, captured: 2)
Ukraine Total Aircraft Lost
Ukraine - 325, of which: destroyed: 231, damaged: 4, captured: 73
Piloted aircraft lost
Combat Aircraft (71, of which destroyed: 70, damaged: 1)
Jet Trainers (2, of which destroyed: 2)
Transport Aircraft (4, of which destroyed: 3, captured: 1)
Helicopters (37, of which destroyed: 33, damaged: 1, captured: 3)
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Or not.
January 02, 2024 By Current Time
Russia Admits To Accidentally Bombing Its Own Village
"Moscow said its military accidentally bombed a village in the southern Voronezh region on January 2 during a massive Russian attack on Ukraine. The Russian Defense Ministry said six buildings had been damaged but there were no casualties in Petropavlovka, some 150 kilometers east of the border with Ukraine. It came on the same day that Russiaโs military launched a barrage of missiles and drones at Ukraine, with four killed and nearly 100 injured in Kyiv and Kharkiv, the two cities targeted in the Russian attacks."
World
Russia admits its own warplane accidentally bombed Russian city of Belgorod, near Ukraine border
April 21, 2023 / 7:09 AM EDT / CBS/AP
"Moscow โ When a powerful blast shook a Russian city near the border of Ukraine residents thought it was a Ukrainian attack. But the Russian military quickly acknowledged that it was a bomb accidentally dropped by one of its own warplanes.
"Belgorod, a city of 340,000 about 25 miles east of the border with Ukraine, has faced regular drone attacks that Russian authorities blame on the Ukrainian military, but the explosion late Thursday was far more powerful than anything its residents had heard before.
Russia Ukraine
"This handout photo posted to the Telegram channel of Belgorod region governor Vyacheslav Gladkov shows damaged apartments building near the crater after an explosion in Belgorod, Russia, April 21, 2023, caused by a Russian Su-34 warplane accidentally discharging ammunition over the city. Telegram/Vyacheslav Gladkov/AP
"Witnesses reported a low hissing sound followed by a blast that made nearby apartment buildings tremble and threw a car on a store roof.
"It left a 66-foot-wide crater in the middle of a tree-lined boulevard flanked by apartment buildings, shattering their windows, damaging several cars and injuring two residents. A third person was later hospitalized with hypertension.
syria2015-10-09t174925z138499154gf10000238638rtrmadp3mideast-crisis-syria-russia-insurgents.jpg
A frame grab taken from video released by Russia's Defense Ministry on October 9, 2015, shows a Russian Su-34 fighter-bomber dropping a bomb in the air over Syria. REUTERS/Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation/Handout
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Actual figures that relate to the relative positions of Ukraine and Russia.
"This list only includes destroyed vehicles, airforce and naval hardware and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here."
Details extracted from the ORYX websites "Documenting ** Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine" and "ORYX aicraft losses in Ukraine"
Russia: Total Hardware and Tank Losses 24 Feb 2022 to 2 Nov 2023
Total - 12948, of which: destroyed: 8971, damaged: 559, abandoned: 516, captured: 2902
Tanks - 2450, of which destroyed: 1607, damaged: 139, abandoned: 162, captured: 550
Ukraine: Total Hardware and Tank Losses 24 Feb 2022 to 2 Nov 2023
Total - 4685, of which: destroyed: 3189, damaged: 359, abandoned: 175, captured: 961
Tanks - 688, of which destroyed: 454, damaged: 56, abandoned: 37, captured: 141
Russian Naval Ships and Submarines (16, of which destroyed: 11, damaged: 5)
1 Project 1164 Slava-class guided missile cruiser: (1, Moskva, sunk)
1 Project 636.3 Improved Kilo-class submarine: (1, B-237 'Rostov-na-Donu', damaged beyond economical repair)
5 Project 03160 Raptor-class patrol boat: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (1, damaged) (2, damaged)
1 Project 02510 BK-16E high-speed assault boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 640 small patrol boat: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 1171 Tapir-class landing ship: (1, BDK-65 'Saratov', destroyed)
3 Project 775 Ropucha-class landing ship: (1, 'Minsk', damaged beyond economical repair) (1, damaged) (2, 'Olenegorsky Gornyak', damaged)
1 Project 11770 Serna-class landing craft: (1, destroyed)
1 Project 22870 rescue tug: (1, SB-739 V'asily Bekh', destroyed)
1 Project 266M Natya-class minesweeper: (1, damaged)
Russian Total aircraft Lost
Russia - 539, of which: destroyed: 369, damaged: 36, captured: 134
Piloted Aircraft Lost
Combat Aircraft (82, of which destroyed: 78, damaged: 4)
Strategic Bombers (3, of which destroyed: 1, damaged: 2)
Transport Aircraft (6, of which destroyed: 5, damaged: 1)
Helicopters (131, of which destroyed: 101, damaged: 28, captured: 2)
Ukraine Total Aircraft Lost
Ukraine - 325, of which: destroyed: 231, damaged: 4, captured: 73
Piloted aircraft lost
Combat Aircraft (71, of which destroyed: 70, damaged: 1)
Jet Trainers (2, of which destroyed: 2)
Transport Aircraft (4, of which destroyed: 3, captured: 1)
Helicopters (37, of which destroyed: 33, damaged: 1, captured: 3)
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The statement, as said was, "They have annexed the territory, so from a RuZZian perspective, it is a part of Russia.", which clearly refers to the fact that it is, as stated "from a RuZZian perspective". I always go back over a video if I think that I have, or have not heard, what I think has been said. Because an "annexation" has taken place, it will probably need to be challenged according to international law. However, there is no reason, during the same conflict for the Ukrainians not to recover that territory in the same way that it was taken from them. And I would certainly like to see any other country, other than the RuZZians try to prevent them from recovering their territory { highly unlikely }. I really believe that the RuZZians would be well advised to vacate the land and beg forgiveness. Reparations will be sorted out afterwards --- if they think they are up against it now, they've go another thing coming.
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Even the media entities, Solovyov, Simonyan, Skabeyeva, Mardan and the other "hosts" and their "guests" and "panelists" are talking about the extensive number of Russians being eliminated.
Top Russian propagandists {Simonyan - Head of RT (Russia Today)} worry they might be tried at the Hague
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh06gMnt5Us
Who gave permission for the destruction of Russia's reputation globally by Russia itself ?
Some figures regarding the relative strengths of Ukraine and Russia.
44 million total population of Ukraine 67% of population are 15-64 years of age
= 29.48 million men and women 46.3% M/F 53.7%
= 13.65 million men
144 million total population of Russia. 67% of population are 15-64 years of age
= 96.48 million men and women 46.5% M/F 53.5%
= 44.8 million men
Another way of calculating Ukrainian fighting men available is based on remaining population in Ukraine
Ukraine population as at 8 Mar 2023
= 36.3 million after subtracting refugees to other countries 67% of population are 15-64 years of age
= 24.32 {possibly higher %age} 46.3% M/F 53.7%
= 11.19 {will be higher %age} Adjustment for refugees to men remaining
= 13.56 million men {44/36.3}
A reasonable estimate of able bodied Ukrainians to able bodied Russians would be approximately 15 million Ukrainians to 45 million Russians. While the same figures are not likely to be maintained across all front lines and in all scenarios, the relative losses in the Bakhmut front were reported to be 7 Russian military personnel KIA to each Ukrainian member KIA. The same ratios of losses are reported in Avdiivka, Vuhledar and other areas of conlict. Even if the ratios balance out between 7:1 and 3:1, Russians : Ukrainians, the total losses are going to be 45 million Russians to 15 million Ukrainians.
At the present rate of attrition, the ukrainians will survive longer than the Russians.
Let's hope that the Russians decide that enough is enough, long before those figures are reached, for the sake of both countries.
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Journalists from the BBC and Mediazona have identified the names of 29,217 Russian military members killed in Ukraine since February 2022. At least 870 of them died after the Ukrainian counteroffensive began in the spring of 2023. The researchers said that the real number of dead could be at least twice as high.
The ORYX website states, "This list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here."
"Mediazona, in collaboration with BBC News Russian service and a team of volunteers, continues gathering information on the Russian military casualties in Ukraine. The figures we provide are derived from publicly accessible sources, such as social media posts by relatives, local media reports, and statements by local authorities. Therefore, they do not capture the complete death toll."
"The actual number is likely much higher. A joint data investigation by Mediazona and Meduza estimated that by the end of May, the conflict in Ukraine had resulted in the deaths of 47,000 Russians below the age of 50."
Because the figures provided by ORYX and Mediazona are those confirmed and verified by "photo or videographic" {ORIX} and "publicly accessible sources {Mediazona}, they are the least possible number of casualties and are therefore considered the lowbar. Ukrainian reports of Russian casualties are derived from figures provided troops on the ground as estimates {they are not confirmed by independent sources} and may vary in reliability and therefore be considered the Highbar.
Mediazona: "At least 31,665 confirmed military deaths from 24 Feb 2022 to 7 Sept 2023 The timeline shows the number of confirmed casualties within a given time frame. This number is not equal to the number of casualties per day: if the report does not mention the date, we use the date of its publication, that is, the earliest date we know when the person was confirmed to have {died}"
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January 02, 2024 By Current Time
Russia Admits To Accidentally Bombing Its Own Village
"Moscow said its military accidentally bombed a village in the southern Voronezh region on January 2 during a massive Russian attack on Ukraine. The Russian Defense Ministry said six buildings had been damaged but there were no casualties in Petropavlovka, some 150 kilometers east of the border with Ukraine. It came on the same day that Russiaโs military launched a barrage of missiles and drones at Ukraine, with four killed and nearly 100 injured in Kyiv and Kharkiv, the two cities targeted in the Russian attacks."
World
Russia admits its own warplane accidentally bombed Russian city of Belgorod, near Ukraine border
April 21, 2023 / 7:09 AM EDT / CBS/AP
"Moscow โ When a powerful blast shook a Russian city near the border of Ukraine residents thought it was a Ukrainian attack. But the Russian military quickly acknowledged that it was a bomb accidentally dropped by one of its own warplanes.
"Belgorod, a city of 340,000 about 25 miles east of the border with Ukraine, has faced regular drone attacks that Russian authorities blame on the Ukrainian military, but the explosion late Thursday was far more powerful than anything its residents had heard before.
Russia Ukraine
"This handout photo posted to the Telegram channel of Belgorod region governor Vyacheslav Gladkov shows damaged apartments building near the crater after an explosion in Belgorod, Russia, April 21, 2023, caused by a Russian Su-34 warplane accidentally discharging ammunition over the city. Telegram/Vyacheslav Gladkov/AP
"Witnesses reported a low hissing sound followed by a blast that made nearby apartment buildings tremble and threw a car on a store roof.
"It left a 66-foot-wide crater in the middle of a tree-lined boulevard flanked by apartment buildings, shattering their windows, damaging several cars and injuring two residents. A third person was later hospitalized with hypertension.
syria2015-10-09t174925z138499154gf10000238638rtrmadp3mideast-crisis-syria-russia-insurgents.jpg
A frame grab taken from video released by Russia's Defense Ministry on October 9, 2015, shows a Russian Su-34 fighter-bomber dropping a bomb in the air over Syria. REUTERS/Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation/Handout
Immediately after the explosion, Russian commentators and military bloggers were abuzz with theories about what weapon Ukraine had used for the attack. Many called for a powerful retribution. But about an hour later, the Russian Defense Ministry acknowledged that the explosion was caused by a weapon accidentally dropped by one of its own Su-34 bombers. It didn't offer any further details, but military experts said the weapon likely was a powerful 1,100-pound bomb.
In Thursday's blast, the weapon was apparently set to explode with a small delay after impact, to hit underground facilities.
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Russian ground staff load a Sukhoi Su-34 fighter-bomber with weapons at the Hmeymim air base near Latakia, Syria, in a handout photo released by Russia's Defense Ministry on October 22, 2015. REUTERS/Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation/Handout
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ย @gelzamangitzaman1482ย
Vladislav's story
On the edge of Cherkasy, there is a cemetery with a long line of recent graves. They're for the men of all ages from the town who've died fighting since Russian President Vladimir Putin gave the order to invade.
Ukraine honours the dead as heroes, but it's left to their families to grieve.
Each grave is decorated with national flags and heaped with wreaths and flowers. There are images, fixed to crosses or etched into marble headstones, of the soldiers in military uniform.
A woman stands next to her son's grave in Cherkasy
Image caption,
Inna's son was killed when a mine exploded
Inna can't bear to put her son's photo on his grave yet. The image that she used for his funeral is still at home. She's not ready to let go.
Vladislav Bykanov was killed last June by a mine explosion near Bakhmut. He was about to turn 23 and already a deputy commander.
"I believe my son died doing the right thing," Inna says firmly, as her daughter cries quietly beside her.
"I'm a teacher and I always tell the children this: we are right, we are defending our country and our children. My son was defending us. He believed in this cause. And I believe," Inna says before pausing to take in the flags and faces all around.
She hasn't visited the cemetery for a little while and the row of soldiers' graves has grown.
"Do you think my son wasn't afraid? I was afraid too, when he went. Everyone's afraid of dying," she answers, when I wonder what she thinks of those who avoid signing up to fight.
"But maybe being enslaved by Russia is more frightening? Now we see death. It's very difficult. Very difficult. But there is no way back. We can't give up."
Additional reporting by Anastasiia Levchenko and Paul Pradier
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โย @stevewhite3424ย
Thank you for your response, Steve.
I acknowledge your question with an element of hesitation. {Maybe, in part, because it is late for me and I am feeling tired but i would like to respond before going to bed}
While no specific direction has been given that the individual military personnel should swear an oath of loyalty to Putin, I can't get past the idea that it is expected and assumed to be so. That appears to me to be true because of either fear or favour. Possibly the instilling of fervour as well. A type of obeisance that is instilled right from school into young adulthood and further nurtured and maintained in the military, for those who go that direction.
From what I have seen during the last 18 months and my research into events leading to the second invasion by Russia in February 2014, Putin has placed a lot of emphasis on making himself the focal point in the political arena. In this way, I believe he has instilled the concept of unquestioned loyalty to him as "Head of State", either as an individual or as the embodiment of state.
From his training and personnal adoption of FSB priciples of operation, I think that he would expect loyalty to him as an individual more than to country. Hence we see a lot of unflattering references to the way that people like Shoigu and Gerasimov act with regard to Putin. There appears to be little projected in the way of individuality. The situation is similar in the cases of Lavrov and Peskov and even those further away, like ambassadors Andrei Kelin {UK} and Anatoly Antanov {US} .All the interactions seem to be very carefully scripted and choreographed.
Cheers, PNH
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