Comments by "People Liberator" (@lvjinbin28) on "China, Philippines hope to peacefully resolve South China Sea territorial disputes" video.

  1. China today claims 9dashline, Taiwan today claims 11dashline, because both West and Soviet supported ROC's 11dashline in 1945, USA even gave 4 warships to Chinese took over Taiping Island, Thitu Island etc in 1946, ironically it's USA helped Chinese to claim and take South China Sea in 1946. PRC inherited ROC same claim after 1949, but PRC gave up 2dashline after PRC gave Bach Long Vi island to North Vietnam in 1957 as gift. I wonder if USA would also oppose Taiwan 11dashline claim today? American Philippines, French Indochina, British Malaya didn't oppose Chinese 11dashline because they were still Western colonies in 1945, if West supported ROC so they can't say no in 1945, but they claimed some islands after independence, even took some island when PRC navy was tiny. ROC Taiwan navy withdrew from Thitu island due to storm then Philippine took it in 1971, Taiwan wanted to take back by force but cancelled operation after USA pressure. PRC Beijing defeat South Vietnam navy in Paracel island battle 1974, North Vietnam used to support PRC then. But after Vietnam reunification, Vietcong claimed same like South Vietnam, PRC defeat Vietnam navy in Johnson South Reef in 1988, China didn't just pop out and claim South China Sea in recent years. Taiwan still controls Taiping and dongsha island, even didn't give up 11dashline, but DPP government kept quiet after USA pressure, only KMT is still active on 11dashline claim. China got legitimacy from West in South China Sea claim from history, China today 60% oil trade lifeline is in South China Sea, so China believe they got morality and power to tighten more control especially when USA sent more warships to threaten China lifeline. Philippines Vietnam hated 11dashline, because such claim is too greedy too aggressive too near to their coastal line. But they know history, they know Chinese won't give up easily, so they wanted USA to counter China, but US navy two aircraft carrier run away from 2016 standoff, that's why Philippines Vietnam Singapore turned to be more neutral, Duterte doesn't want Philippines to be cannon fodder for USA, Vietnam knew USA wanted to push Vietnam to contain China then USA can hide behind, but nobody wants to be Asian Ukraine, they know once China punished Vietnam Or Philippines, USA may send weapons but USA won't really send troops to protect them, so Philippines and Vietnam would be more neutral, they know as long as they are not 100% anti-China pro-USA, then China won't attack them but even give economic benefits. Actually Chinese navy can take back all islands within 9dashline by force, but China also don't want Philippines or Vietnam completely to choose USA side, so China stopped to arm Scarborough Shoal, even make more trade deals with Philippines, both China and Philippines try to maintain a balance. USA hope they can use Philippines to weaken China, it seems Philippines is not so naive like Ukraine.
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  2.  @InfonautInvest  China today claims 9dashline, Taiwan today claims 11dashline, because both West and Soviet supported ROC's 11dashline in 1945, USA even gave 4 warships to Chinese took over Taiping Island, Thitu Island etc in 1946, ironically it's USA helped Chinese to claim and take South China Sea in 1946. PRC inherited ROC same claim after 1949, but PRC gave up 2dashline after PRC gave Bach Long Vi island to North Vietnam in 1957 as gift. I wonder if USA would also oppose Taiwan 11dashline claim today? American Philippines, French Indochina, British Malaya didn't oppose Chinese 11dashline because they were still Western colonies in 1945, if West supported ROC so they can't say no in 1945, but they claimed some islands after independence, even took some island when PRC navy was tiny. ROC Taiwan navy withdrew from Thitu island due to storm then Philippine took it in 1971, Taiwan wanted to take back by force but cancelled operation after USA pressure. PRC Beijing defeat South Vietnam navy in Paracel island battle 1974, North Vietnam used to support PRC then. But after Vietnam reunification, Vietcong claimed same like South Vietnam, PRC defeat Vietnam navy in Johnson South Reef in 1988, China didn't just pop out and claim South China Sea in recent years. Taiwan still controls Taiping and dongsha island, even didn't give up 11dashline, but DPP government kept quiet after USA pressure, only KMT is still active on 11dashline claim. China got legitimacy from West in South China Sea claim from history, China today 60% oil trade lifeline is in South China Sea, so China believe they got morality and power to tighten more control especially when USA sent more warships to threaten China lifeline. Philippines Vietnam hated 11dashline, because such claim is too greedy too aggressive too near to their coastal line. But they know history, they know Chinese won't give up easily, so they wanted USA to counter China, but US navy two aircraft carrier run away from 2016 standoff, that's why Philippines Vietnam Singapore turned to be more neutral, Duterte doesn't want Philippines to be cannon fodder for USA, Vietnam knew USA wanted to push Vietnam to contain China then USA can hide behind, but nobody wants to be Asian Ukraine, they know once China punished Vietnam Or Philippines, USA may send weapons but USA won't really send troops to protect them, so Philippines and Vietnam would be more neutral, they know as long as they are not 100% anti-China pro-USA, then China won't attack them but even give economic benefits. Actually Chinese navy can take back all islands within 9dashline by force, but China also don't want Philippines or Vietnam completely to choose USA side, so China stopped to arm Scarborough Shoal, even make more trade deals with Philippines, both China and Philippines try to maintain a balance. USA hope they can use Philippines to weaken China, it seems Philippines is not so naive like Ukraine.
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  3. There's also another way, like China keeps arming more islands, then sanction Philippines, make Philippines to Asian Ukraine.
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  4. China today claims 9dashline, Taiwan today claims 11dashline, because both West and Soviet supported ROC's 11dashline in 1945, USA even gave 4 warships to Chinese took over Taiping Island, Thitu Island etc in 1946, ironically it's USA helped Chinese to claim and take South China Sea in 1946. PRC inherited ROC same claim after 1949, but PRC gave up 2dashline after PRC gave Bach Long Vi island to North Vietnam in 1957 as gift. I wonder if USA would also oppose Taiwan 11dashline claim today? American Philippines, French Indochina, British Malaya didn't oppose Chinese 11dashline because they were still Western colonies in 1945, if West supported ROC so they can't say no in 1945, but they claimed some islands after independence, even took some island when PRC navy was tiny. ROC Taiwan navy withdrew from Thitu island due to storm then Philippine took it in 1971, Taiwan wanted to take back by force but cancelled operation after USA pressure. PRC Beijing defeat South Vietnam navy in Paracel island battle 1974, North Vietnam used to support PRC then. But after Vietnam reunification, Vietcong claimed same like South Vietnam, PRC defeat Vietnam navy in Johnson South Reef in 1988, China didn't just pop out and claim South China Sea in recent years. Taiwan still controls Taiping and dongsha island, even didn't give up 11dashline, but DPP government kept quiet after USA pressure, only KMT is still active on 11dashline claim. China got legitimacy from West in South China Sea claim from history, China today 60% oil trade lifeline is in South China Sea, so China believe they got morality and power to tighten more control especially when USA sent more warships to threaten China lifeline. Philippines Vietnam hated 11dashline, because such claim is too greedy too aggressive too near to their coastal line. But they know history, they know Chinese won't give up easily, so they wanted USA to counter China, but US navy two aircraft carrier run away from 2016 standoff, that's why Philippines Vietnam Singapore turned to be more neutral, Duterte doesn't want Philippines to be cannon fodder for USA, Vietnam knew USA wanted to push Vietnam to contain China then USA can hide behind, but nobody wants to be Asian Ukraine, they know once China punished Vietnam Or Philippines, USA may send weapons but USA won't really send troops to protect them, so Philippines and Vietnam would be more neutral, they know as long as they are not 100% anti-China pro-USA, then China won't attack them but even give economic benefits. Actually Chinese navy can take back all islands within 9dashline by force, but China also don't want Philippines or Vietnam completely to choose USA side, so China stopped to arm Scarborough Shoal, even make more trade deals with Philippines, both China and Philippines try to maintain a balance. USA hope they can use Philippines to weaken China, it seems Philippines is not so naive like Ukraine.
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  5.  @zilun  China didn't claim all islands in Eastern China Sea, why? Because Taiwan only claims 11dashline in South China Sea, so when Taiwan can give up the claim and Taiping dongsha island?
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  6.  @zilun  trade route is not safe for China under US navy protection, well China should say thanks to Taiwan about 11dashline claim
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  7. China stopped to arm more islands, but give more trade deals to Philippines, it's not a win-win? There's also by not peaceful way, like China keeps arming more islands like Scarborough shoal, then turn Philippines to Asian Ukraine, let's see if US navy would attack Chinese navy Or not.
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  8. If Xi is dictator then why he should care if Chinese hate him? Do you mean Xi actually care about people opinion?
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  9.  @zilun  when can change ROC constitution?
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