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  2.  @joshuawilliams7653  "people foolishly cling to every word": that's exactly what we're talking about here, people being foolish about words, without thinking about what they mean. "you seriously think reducing a current growth rate doesn't involve killing people" Yes, I seriously think that, as do any sane people. Didn't I already explain why? Do you deny what has already happened in the world? Can you tell me, with your own logical reasoning, why in Europe we have small families now? Look at demographics a bit, for f**ks sake: note the age distribution of developing countries... note how it's different to ours. These aren't new ideas invented by Gates and his evil minions; it's just how the World actually works. Since when did he become the leading expert? Since he became so rich that he could give money to the people doing the research and also get their direct advice. He's a figurehead, high profile and therefore useful for getting messages across. This works on all levels of society. Nothing special about that. If a famous actor talks about a subject for example, it doesn't make him an expert, just the one relaying the message. "What if by 2030 we hit 11 billion? Means something would have to be done." Ok, so what if? What's your suggestion then? The best way to get something done is by letting people do it of their own free will, no? Better to think about it now rather than when it's too late, isn't it? Anyway, what's wrong with the idea of improving living conditions? Pockets of the US may well be densely populated, but the US can provide, so we don't call it overpopulated. Overpopulated is when there aren't enough ressources for the population. It's simple. Use logic, think, learn maths, study history.
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  73.  @spacemonkey1776  "all medication outside of vaccines may be held liable" Yes.... but not vaccines because they're so widespread. I said so earlier and explained why. "Some of the healthiest people I know have not been vaccinated" Can be read as "some of the luckiest people I know are still alive"; they're lucky because they didn't get exposed to mortal diseases, or lucky because everyone around them is vaccinated thus protecting them... "if you want to take vaccines this is America" Not for me it isn't; this is Europe. I must admit we have less obligatory vaccines than you guys, but that's political not medical. "when other people call out their BS don't get upset with him and call him conspiracy theorist. That's like someone telling you the sky is blue and you calling them a conspiracy theorist" No... not at all: if you call out someone you must have evidence against them. If someone says the sky is blue, they can show you evidence to support their claim. If they say the earth is flat, however, they need more than b*llsh*t youtube videos to convince anyone, they need some really hard evidence. " Everybody knows vaccines are not safe." What does "safe" mean? 100% sure? No, you're right, they're not. Maybe they're just better than nothing at all... Are car seatbelts 100% safe? No, but you've got way more chances of surviving an accident if you're wearing one. The "conspiracy theorist" is someone who connects dots that aren't necessarily linked and doesn't have actual evidence to back up their claims. Is Bill Gates all good? Maybe not... but bring on some real evidence please to show that what he's doing is bad.
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  86.  @alexioforte397  Do I find anything creepy about 060606 in the middle of another string of numbers and letters ( by the way it's WO2020060606A1)? No. I don't. Am I a paid shill (not shrill as you say)? I could say no.... but how much do I get paid to say that? After all, saying this stuff for 3 people on youtube must have a huge impact on the world, and must therefore be worth a lot of money, so I might just lie to you... But in the meantime, while you think about your reply, read this comment that I've posted on a few discussions about Bill Gates and remember to adjust your reply accordingly: My predicted conversation with any conspiracy theorist: Here's what will happen, if we debate a bit: You'll say "Bill Gates wants to kill half the population, he was chucked out of India, Melinda is a man." I'll ask you for your sources, you'll either say "google it" or "do your own research" or "I don't give links anymore," or « follow the money », or "watch the Corbett report" or you'll just carry on spouting random rubbish. Then I'll give you my sources, which clearly show you're wrong, but you'll refuse to read (yes READ, not watch, sorry!), saying it's all just biased reports paid by "Big Pharma". Conveniently for you, everything which doesn't go in your sense is sponsored by Bill Gates, including me and anyone else who disagrees with you. Since "almost all media" is apparently funded by Gates (funny how it includes media from every single country in the world), except what's on youtube (which is ironic because it's mainly thanks to him that we're on youtube in the first place), it's impossible to provide you with any evidence. Yet you will ask repeatedly, saying mine isn't good enough without giving any yourself. You will spout on about how evil he is, with lots of CAPITAL LETTERS (you're probably catholic, so I can understand that anyone who promotes contraception is evil to you, since you haven't evolved from the Dark Ages), and completely ignore anything I say. When I ask if at the very least you use Linux and not Windows, you won't reply. Am I wrong?
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  129.  allana  Question for you: is working in a coal mine empowering to men? I think you'll agree that no, it's not. It's dangerous, it will probably kill you, it will certainly wear your body out, it's just a job. Not a nice one, but a job. A job does not have to be empowering. You won't go putting it on display in the career exhibition hall either. Maybe "career choice" is an inappropriate term; "job choice" would be better: takes away the image of promoting prostitution in schools! You cannot cut off the demand, so the supply will also continue to exist; that's harsh reality. If you legalise, just like the alcohol industry for example, you can control it and divert police attention to other areas. Much of a moonshine problem in Europe or the States? You can only reduce trafficking by legalising and regulating.It's logical: in a legal brothel where a prostitute can take you to the police (or rather the bouncer, just like in a nightclub, he's the middle-man between offender and police, maintaining order and protecting the others) if you brutalise her, you'll think twice before being violent. Also, why not, I say that sex work can be and could be more skill orientated. It's our attitude towards it that makes it seem bad, but think about the Japanese geishas, for instance, for whom sexual practice was only a part of their social skills. They've always been highly respected and respectable... How about boxing? People destroying each other while crowds watch on. Isn't it good though that it's legal? Does it being "respectable" mean that young impressionable boys (or girls) will be drawn into it despite themselves, thinking it's easy money? Maybe some.... but they were sufficiently brainless to start with that a few more brain cells knocked out of them won't make much difference. Some will always be exploited of course, but they would've been if it was all underground anyway, but there'd be no medical support, no retirement, no handicap benefits etc etc.
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  138. Victim of what? Is it "normal"? Maybe not. Does everything have to be "normal" in life? I reckon 99.9% of men wouldn't mind the question at all, many would welcome it, and even if they said no, they'd do it with a polite laugh and look to not upset the woman they were refusing. Consider also that (as many others have commented), even if it's in the workplace and therefore inappropriate, we're talking about a comedian, living mainly on the road, in a nd out of hotels, towns.... when you're touring everywhere is the workplace. If you're working on a show, chances are it's nearly 24/7 as well: in this business people don't work 9 to 5, so there's no clear limit to what the workplace is and when it stops. Is it normal and ok that I have to put up with women flashing their breasts at me permanently, in every single environment, every single day of the year? Answer: yes, it is; I just have to deal with it if I find that part of their anatomy exciting. Do they have to show it? No, they don't. Clothes that don't reveal cleavage exist. Do they ask my consent before shoving it in my face? No. Now, did Louis shove anything in anyone's face? No; he asked, and didn't do it if the reply was no. Were there also rumours around him tht if you refused his advances he would trash your career? No, apparently not. Point: "a woman shouldn't even have to deal with a question like that" : this portrays women as being such weak and feeble individuals that they can't be expected to handle simple questions, yet they are strong and empowered enough to sexualise their own bodies as much as they want, without asking consent from any man........ weird double standards.
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  147.  @jeremiahhosea1140  Correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't that book about the treatment of slaves and how they were experimented upon by James Sims? So Gates Snr was a Eugenicist... a term which has mutated from its origins anyway, but still has the power to create unease, due to its sharing of certain Nazi ideals, mainly. Just because some ideas have roots in dubious places does not make all of them bad: isn't contraception a good concept? I think it is. I'd have hundreds of children by now if it weren't for contraception, so I'm all for it! Is it reasonable to think that the world population can't just go up forever? I think it is. If those are "eugenicist" concepts, then I'm a eugenicist, and so is Bill Gates. But in reality, only a part of the eugenicist philosophy is shared. Gates has no medical credentials: this is true, so we can ask ourselves why he is where he is today: probably because he is immensely rich, so he can put his money where his mouth is, unlike most of us, and get stuff done rather than waiting round for governments to eventually sit round a table and decide to do things ten years later. Being a mediatised figure, it's his face that crops up all the time, even if the information comes from those who advise him. I expect that with all the connections he has, he's pretty well advised. When you see how government ministers are shuffled up and moved round, so that you demand where their competence comes from to occupy that post, it's less shocking to me that Gates occupy such a role because at least he's been consistent! So yeah, he's no doctor, but I think the doctors probably point him in the directions he takes. Epstein: well, lots of people have met Epstein, I'd imagine. Maybe many met him a whole lot of times.... but does that make them pedophiles? You need more than just: "Bill Gates met with with convicted child-rapist Jeffrey Epstein on "numerous occasions" according to the New York Times" to actually conclude anything. So basically, you've joined some dots which don't necessarily have any reason to be joined. Everything is linked to everything else if you really want to go far enough... that's ecology for you. All that to say that a list of statements means nothing.
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  184.  @veritty6828  It does seem to be deeply rooted in our culture. Women sexualise themselves permanently; just look at most social media profile photos... It goes right through society on every level. Clothes are made figure-hugging, revealing cleavage or thigh or belly... Hang on.... stop! There's a problem there. Don't men sexualise themselves too? Look at their profile photos too. Men don't show cleavage.... but a good firm bicep or two... In movies, male heroes are usually the stereotype female fantasy of a strong man who takes no sh*t from the enemies, but is gentle with the ladies (except when she wants her hair pulled and her ass smacked)! The typical male hero quickly gets his shirt ripped, to show off his muscles, in the same way as the female heroine gets her skirt ripped off and finishes the film in her underwear. Our two bunny rabbit examples are a little different though. Bugs doesn't seem sexualised at all. Clothes do a lot of the sexualising, as well as the body form. Why are breasts so sexualised? What makes a woman's nipple unfit for youtube (although a machete attack or fatal crash is ok), but a man's is no problem? We're allowed to see the whole of the woman's breast, but not the nipple! Completely ridiculous, isn't it? Personally I think naturism is good: getting rid of clothes desexualises our bodies and makes us more equal. It forces you to accept your own body as well. Can't hide behind baggy clothes. Of course you can't be naked all the time, but it's a good experience.
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  185.  Maria Salinas  Unfortunately your last two replies have been deleted it would seem, so I've only seen the first bit of them, but you seem to have misread what I said: male heros in films are represented as the combination of superman who can beat all the enemies but is a perfect gentleman at the same time. You still maintain that showing cleavage is in no way sexual, which I disagree with. By the same logic, buttocks are in the same category. A plunging line like a cleavage on the buttocks would be seen how? My point is, functional clothing is not designed to reveal bits particularly, it's just there to be practical and comfortable. As soon as you start revealing more than "necessary", it changes the function of the clothing. For example, if a man is wearing a tee shirt, nothing is being "presented". Put him in a vest, and you're exposing much more of the upper arm and shoulder. He'd be seen in a different light in a meeting if he came in with bulging muscles on display. See the similarity now? What purpose does it have, for you, to wear clothes that show cleavage? I'd say it's a way of saying "hey everybody, look at this". Maybe for you, breasts have no sexual importance.... but for at least half the population they do. Even then, whether something is "sexual" or not is pretty irrelevant; it's visible, so it's something people see and therefore look at. If someone ha s beautiful hair I might well look at it during a conversation, because it's there in front of me and "nice" to look at. We are also inevitably attracted to big flashing neon signs.... but that doesn't mean they're sexual. You can go on deluding yourself that showing cleavage is uniquely for yourself (pure narcissism, then) or you can admit it's to have an effect on other people, even if it's just "oh, she looks nice". You'll notice that generally speaking, mens' clothing doesn't have holes cut out or slits or whatever to show particular parts of the body.That should tell you something.
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  255.  @tehillah1000  So much wrong in your post. First, he does not mention lowering population. I'll get back to that. Second it's carbon dioxide, not monoxide. Third he doesn't skip onto the next topic; he develops the main topic. Fourth, everyone obviously does understand him in the audience. Now, what does he actually say: "Now the world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 %, but there we see an increase of about 1.3." The 10-15% refers to the increase rate of 1.3 that could be brought down. That therefore implies slowing a growth rate, and thus no murdering at all. Context. You have to finish the end of the sentence to understand it. The population will continue to increase up to its point of stability, but slower than if there are no improvements to living conditions and education. Next, the equation: CO2 = P x S x E x C P= people S= services per person E= energy per service C = carbon dioxide per unit energy The last one, C, must come down to zero because all the others will increase, even if you slow down the rate of increase. "Innovating to zero" = creating alternative energy sources that do not produce CO2. Simple maths: anything x anything x anything x zero = zero. This is why the title of the talk is about innovating to zero emissions; you can stop the excess CO2 production from industry by changing the energy source for the industry. So, no skipping subjects, just getting to the point.
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  283.  @cardinal3728  I've been trying to have intelligent conversations for a while on this subject, but was confronted constantly by the same ignorance. Up to the point where I wrote this: "My predicted conversation with any conspiracy theorist: Here's what will happen, if we debate a bit: You'll say "Bill Gates wants to kill half the population, he was chucked out of India, Melinda is a man." I'll ask you for your sources, you'll either say "google it" or "do your own research" or "I don't give links anymore," or « follow the money », or "watch the Corbett report" or you'll just carry on spouting random rubbish. Then I'll give you my sources, which clearly show you're wrong, but you'll refuse to read (yes READ, not watch, sorry!), saying it's all just biased reports paid by "Big Pharma". Conveniently for you, everything which doesn't go in your sense is sponsored by Bill Gates, including me and anyone else who disagrees with you. Since "almost all media" is apparently funded by Gates (funny how it includes media from every single country in the world), except what's on youtube (which is ironic because it's mainly thanks to him that we're on youtube in the first place), it's impossible to provide you with any evidence. Yet you will ask repeatedly, saying mine isn't good enough without giving any yourself. You will spout on about how evil he is, with lots of CAPITAL LETTERS (you're probably catholic, so I can understand that anyone who promotes contraception is evil to you, since you haven't evolved from the Dark Ages), and completely ignore anything I say. When I ask if at the very least you use Linux and not Windows, you won't reply. Am I wrong?" Up to now, not one single person has replied intelligently to that. Very few have replied at all. it tends to stop them in their tracks! Those that have replied have just dug their hole deeper. If it's any consolation, it's probably only a small number of people who leave comments here, so does not represent the population as a whole. At least, I hope so! Otherwise, we're all f**ked!
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  317. You didn't see any answers in the comments? You didn't look very far then. let me summarize for you: The equation lists several factors, CO2 = P x S x E x C P= people S= services per person E= energy per service C = carbon dioxide per unit energy The last one, C, must come down to zero because all the others will increase, even if you slow down the rate of increase. "Innovating to zero" = creating alternative energy sources that do not produce CO2. Simple maths: anything x anything x anything x zero = zero. Population is mentioned as a side note, and he clearly says that even if you slow the rate of increase (the famous 10-15%, which is rate of increase, NOT actual population), it won't change much in the way of CO2 output. You've made the same mistake as lots of people: you've put quote marks around phrases that YOU invented, not what he actually said. This is very misleading for others, and probably how you got misled yourself. Some people actively edit videos to cut out the bits where he explains himself. Many people obviously don't listen to the end of videos like this one which haven't been edited. If they did, they'd realise it all makes perfect sense and the depopulation stuff is just lies. Proof: exactly as his figures suggest, the population has INCREASED by a billion since this talk was given. Where's the depopulation there? So when you say "it's pretty absurd to think he's talking about anything other than lowering population " it just shows you didn't even listen to the end of the equation, let alone the whole talk! It also shows that your maths skills are sadly lacking. Now please, before replying, listen to the talk again, bearing in mind what I've told you. At least listen to the end of the equation; it's only about 5 minutes in.
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  371.  @juliobaylac3002  Well thanks! That took some doing, didn't it? The burden of proof was indeed on you, "buddy", since you were the one making the original claims. That's why people responded to your post, asking for a bit of justification. Unfortunately of course your list is only books, which I'm not about to go out and buy just for the fun. Nothing against books: they constitute interesting references, but are not in themselves sources. They may contain sources: I hope they do! What would have been more immediately useful here in the youtube comments section would be direct links to scientific papers, for example. I know that may sound a bit "convenient", but that's the way it is; I'm not spending a single cent on what will probably be just someone else giving their opinion without any hard data to back them up. I do know "how it works", I'm not "new to this", but considering how you've chucked insults around up til now, behaving rather childishly, I don't have enough interest in your claims to buy those books. I've got a degree in Ecology, from a university that houses the UKs Climatic Research Centre (UEA Norwich), the first of its kind in Britain, back in 91. So no, I'm not new to this. Books will just give me more opinions, I want data. I also asked you to sketch out briefly why you think Gates has a depopulation agenda (working very badly apparently since the population has gone up by a billion since his 2010 talk) and why you think vaccines are more profitable than treatments.
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  374.  @juliobaylac3002  Funny how you're so aggressive about all this. I did say, didn't I, that in your second post you'd put links which were more of immediate use to me than the books? I also said "Nothing against books: they constitute interesting references, but are not in themselves sources. They may contain sources: I hope they do!" So the "books are no good" that you misquote me as saying ( just like many misquote Gates on population) is false. This is just the youtube comments section, not a commission, so relax a bit and give us an idea of why you think the "mainstream" view on climate is wrong, and why you think Gates wants to depopulate the Earth. Again, the burden of giving proof is on you, because you're the one expressing an opinion/idea. If I make lots of claims about the Easter Bunny, giant spaghetti monsters and the Loch Ness Monster it's up to me to prove they exist, not up to you to prove they don't. Many things cannot be disproved; that's just the way stuff works. I can give no evidence to say the Easter Bunny does not exist... but why should I anyway? He doesn't exist. If you come along and claim he does.... you need to prove it. "And you are right, you should not buy books that go against your prejudice and established understanding of a subject. You don’t want to go through that experience. I get it" You don't get it though, do you? You're putting words into my mouth.If I'm debating here it's precisely because I'm interested by what information others may have. You must be aware that youtube and google in general use algorithms which guide you in the same direction once you've started looking into something.To break free of that, you need outside links. Hence the importance of debating in the comments section. I sort of get the impression that you're trying to drown me in references, a bit like Kennedy does on his site... but I will look into them. Quality not quantity is important. You could've just given one or two of each topic for a start. Doesn't matter though; I know how to sort through all that. Would be curious to hear it all summed up briefly in your own words though. Something tells me I will be disappointed; much as I may try to keep an open mind, your tendency to misquote and jump to conclusions isn't encouraging. It shows a pretty blinkered attitude.
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  408.  @jessedew26  I've just watched this video, and although I haven't gone through all the links provided for it, I've started going through some of them (placing more importance on reading the scientific papers rather than the news articles which just interpret). The problem with the links provided on polio is that they indicate an overall success of the vaccination programme! If mutant strains cause more effects than wild polio, it's precisely because the vaccination has worked to eradicate wild polio.Here's what they say (briefly; you can read the whole articles to complete): Correlation between Non-Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis Rates with Pulse Polio Frequency in India https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121585/pdf/ijerph-15-01755.pdf "5. Conclusions The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV. While commending this enormous effort at eradication, our observation supports the hypothesis that the frequency of pulse polio administration is directly or indirectly related to the incidence of NPAFP. It is hoped that this finding will help continue efforts at optimizing the dose schedule of OPV administration and result in a reduction in NPAFP—which is a feasible hope, as the incidence of wild polio is currently at an all-time low." And this one: Mutant Strains Of Polio Vaccine Now Cause More Paralysis Than Wild Polio https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio "That eradication effort has been incredibly successful. In 1988, when the campaign began, there were 350,000 cases of polio around the world each year compared with the six so far this year. Zaffran credits the oral polio vaccine with getting the world incredibly close to wiping out a terrible disease. "Four regions of the world have totally eradicated the disease with the use of the oral polio vaccine," he notes. "Of course we need to recognize that there have been a few cases of children paralyzed because of the vaccine virus, which is regrettable. But, you know, from a public health perspective, the benefits far outweigh the risk." This one, with regards to malaria: First Results of Phase 3 Trial of RTS,S/AS01 Malaria Vaccine in African Children https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa1102287 "Conclusions The RTS,S/AS01 vaccine provided protection against both clinical and severe malaria in African children. " "A malaria vaccine, deployed in combination with current malaria-control tools, could play an important role in future control and eventual elimination of malaria in Africa." So these papers basically say the opposite of what's being said in the video, which leads me to wonder why they've been included.... unless it's because the poster of this video didn't actually read them?
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  460.  Nemesis  Thanks I was quite proud of that one myself! However, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. On the contrary. Here's a copy of a comment I've already left on a few videos, with always very unsurprising replies! My predicted conversation with any conspiracy theorist: Here's what will happen, if we debate a bit: You'll say "Bill Gates wants to kill half the population, he was chucked out of India, Melinda is a man." I'll ask you for your sources, you'll either say "google it" or "do your own research" or "I don't give links anymore," or « follow the money », or "watch the Corbett report" or you'll just carry on spouting random rubbish. Then I'll give you my sources, which clearly show you're wrong, but you'll refuse to read (yes READ, not watch, sorry!), saying it's all just biased reports paid by "Big Pharma". Conveniently for you, everything which doesn't go in your sense is sponsored by Bill Gates, including me and anyone else who disagrees with you. Since "almost all media" is apparently funded by Gates (funny how it includes media from every single country in the world), except what's on youtube (which is ironic because it's mainly thanks to him that we're on youtube in the first place), it's impossible to provide you with any evidence. Yet you will ask repeatedly, saying mine isn't good enough without giving any yourself. You will spout on about how evil he is, with lots of CAPITAL LETTERS (you're probably catholic, so I can understand that anyone who promotes contraception is evil to you, since you haven't evolved from the Dark Ages), and completely ignore anything I say. When I ask if at the very least you use Linux and not Windows, you won't reply. Am I wrong?
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  480.  @philipgeorgiev  My predicted conversation with any conspiracy theorist: Here's what will happen, if we debate a bit: You'll say "Bill Gates wants to kill half the population, he was chucked out of India, Melinda is a man." I'll ask you for your sources, you'll either say "google it" or "do your own research" or "I don't give links anymore," or « follow the money », or "watch the Corbett report" or you'll just carry on spouting random rubbish. Then I'll give you my sources, which clearly show you're wrong, but you'll refuse to read (yes READ, not watch, sorry!), saying it's all just biased reports paid by "Big Pharma". Conveniently for you, everything which doesn't go in your sense is sponsored by Bill Gates, including me and anyone else who disagrees with you. Since "almost all media" is apparently funded by Gates (funny how it includes media from every single country in the world), except what's on youtube (which is ironic because it's mainly thanks to him that we're on youtube in the first place), it's impossible to provide you with any evidence. Yet you will ask repeatedly, saying mine isn't good enough without giving any yourself. You will spout on about how evil he is, with lots of CAPITAL LETTERS (you're probably catholic, so I can understand that anyone who promotes contraception is evil to you, since you haven't evolved from the Dark Ages), and completely ignore anything I say. When I ask if at the very least you use Linux and not Windows, you won't reply. Am I wrong?
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  481. ​ @b.l.a.biglovealwaysbiglove4053  Ok, let me go through some of those points.First of all, when it comes to accusations, it's up to the accuser to provide evidence. Just saying. With regards to Epstein, for example (which I haven't looked into at all), I could never prove he hasn't been on the Lolita express: I can't prove I haven't either! It can only be proved if he has.Is that the case? I don't know, I haven't looked into that at all. So if there is evidence for that I'd be happy to see it . Damaging people through vaccines: now there's a difficult one as well! As we all know, vaccines aren't 100% safe; nothing is. That's why there are the vaccine courts. That's why research continues permanently to improve them. We don't have the same heavy vaccine schedule in Europe as in the States, so there hasn't been so much controversy over that. I've seen stuff on autism which seems quite convincing, but I've also seen plenty that says it's not related to vaccines. Seems like there's still some doubt on that, which is to be battled among the scientists. The GMOs is pretty much the same thing, and I'm not going to take a stance on that either; I'll leave that to the scientists. Why he is listened to? Because he's perfect for the media; a figurehead, household name... who is surrounded by the top of the experts, so pretty well informed, I think.Is he a good person? I don't know. I think he's trying to do good things, but if he's doing it right is another matter. Maybe he is getting richer at the same time, maybe not if he gives it away. Now let's have a look at the things which have convinced me: You'll notice my main critic is of stupid conspiracy theories, such as sterilising women in Africa.This one comes up often but was easily debunked: https://africacheck.org/fbcheck/25-years-on-rumour-by-us-anti-contraceptive-organisation-still-damages-tetanus-vaccine-programmes/ Yeah I know; some say any factcheck site is no good. They cite sources though, so it's not the article itself to which I refer but the sources contained in it. Next, they say he was chucked out of India. Debunked in five minutes: https://web.archive.org/web/20200502090716/https://pib.gov.in/newsite/mbErel.aspx?relid=158277 All a mix up of various stories, amalgamated together into a lie. They say he wants to reduce the population and cite "that " equation: CO2 = P x S x E x C They deliberately omit to carry on to the end when speaking of it and say he wants to reduce P, when in fact it's C. P= people S= services per person E= energy per service C = carbon dioxide per unit energy The last one, C, must come down to zero because all the others will increase, even if you slow down the rate of increase. "Innovating to zero" = creating alternative energy sources that do not produce CO2. Simple maths: anything x anything x anything x zero = zero. Micro chipping through vaccines is another common one, with reference made to ID2020, where the idea is in fact to give people biometric ID papers or cards when they go in to get vaccinated, thus killing two birds with one stone, to use a rather unfortunate term! Nothing to do with actually injecting people with microchips! https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines What gets me is that even people such as Kennedy have some of these lies on their sites; the population reduction one, for example, which is just so ridiculously easy to disprove. It tends to discredit anything else on their sites which may be founded. Stage three demographic transition ( or why population increase slows down with better living conditions): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition#Stage_three https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/poverty/overview https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy https://www.pnas.org/content/117/10/5250 What else? How about a bit of random info: Danish study on lack of cause of autism by vaccines : https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-2101 CDC court case: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/vaccines-trial-us-court-separates-fact-fiction safety of vaccines : https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/2/325 https://www.advancedped.com/not-foiled-story-aluminum-vaccines/ https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/112/6/1394 https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/how-biological-patents-promote-research-and-save-lives/ Article in Nature Medecine about origins of COVID 19, by multiple authors from USA, UK and Australia : https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 But here's a bit of fun, which still proves some points anyway (or not, but so what?!) Louis CK – Everything is amazing and nobody is happy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdFB7q89_3U Snakes have legs ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HXMYm4k6w0 Life of Brian- The shoe is the sign https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk Monty Python – Argument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ Ronnie Corbett – Blackberry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI
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  530.  @synergygirl1209  I'll give it one last shot, and if you still haven't understood I give up. Let me do your homework for you, as you obviously have a problem with it. First, here are the exact words he uses, which even if isolated, without all the rest of the context, should still be understandable just by applying very simple logic: "Now the world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 %, but there we see an increase of about 1.3." Ok up til there? Now for the complicated bit (too complicated apparently for a number of people, but let's try to make it simple. He explains his equation, saying that one of the values needs to come down close to zero, which provokes laughter from the audience because indeed, if you want to bring the result down to zero, three of the factors can be any value you want, but as long as the fourth is zero, you end up with zero. Something x something x something x zero = zero. Still ok? He says the population will go from 6.8 billion to 9 billion, which is by anyone's standards an increase. 9 divided by 6.8 =1.32. He mentions this increase of 1.3 : "we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%, but there we see an increase of 1.3". Note that the ten or fifteen percent corresponds to the 1.3 figure. Reduce the 1.3 by 10-15% and you get 1.13- 1.18. Still an increase in population, but 10- 15% less. I don't know how it can get any clearer than that really. Especially when he goes on to say that the next two factors should stay high, but the last one (CO2 emission) needs to come right down. Everything he says points to a continued population increase (up to a more stable level of around 9 billion.Others suggest even higher, but that's not the point here). He adds to all this here (TED 2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obRG-2jurz0 Here's another guy (Hans Rosling) explaining how population will level itself out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usdJgEwMinM Now I've given you simple explanations, sources to back me up, and I've tried (but I'll admit it's hard) to avoid falling into childish insults and paranoid delusion ("fake person set up by the handlers of youtube" as you so eloquently put it). What have you brought to the discussion? Funny how some people can't resist using that overused word "sheeple". Just using the word speaks volumes in itself!
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  533. @Green As for the math, you're actually agreeing with me: (the 1.3 increase, cutting by 10-15% to 1.13 or 1.18 is the rate of increase in the population. We're talking about slowing down an increase. It's clearer to say "slowing down an increase" then "reducing an increase", because reduction and increase are opposites that don't fit together well in a sentence. 6.8 to 8.1 is an increase. It's just an increase that takes more time to get to the same level. He doesn't give a date, so there's no reason to stop at 8.1. That's why I think it's 9 billion from demographic data, and 10-15% refers to the increase rate. mathematically, what isn't made clear in the talk (because it's not really the main thing he's talking about, or because he assumes we're good at maths!) is what the 1.3 increase corresponds to exactly: is it 1.3 percent of the population by year,? We can probably assume that it is. It would be odd to give a daily or weekly figure... Whatever, you can't say "population reduction" because it's going up. If the elite wanted to cut drastically the population, they could've done it by simply not imposing lockdown everywhere (if Covid 19 is really that mortal), or if they're so clever, putting out a really effective virus? The number of deaths has been minimal. Lockdown was all about taking the burden off hospitals, because our governments have all been too stupid to maintain proper health services. This is why we must not forget, must not let them off the hook. Worrying about whether Bill Gates is the Antichrist distracts us from the main issue of bad governing. Investigation sure, always. But don't burn the witch until you've got solid proof.Too much at stake! (what a pun; proud of myself!)
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  534. @Green While I'm at it, just so that this stuff gets seen in the comments, rather than drowned in all the christian indignation, let me repeat some interesting links: On polio vaccines in India : Correlation between Non-Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis Rates with Pulse Polio Frequency in India https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121585/pdf/ijerph-15-01755.pdf Brief extract of the conclusions : "5. Conclusions The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV. While commending this enormous effort at eradication, our observation supports the hypothesis that the frequency of pulse polio administration is directly or indirectly related to the incidence of NPAFP. It is hoped that this finding will help continue efforts at optimizing the dose schedule of OPV administration and result in a reduction in NPAFP—which is a feasible hope, as the incidence of wild polio is currently at an all-time low." And this one, explaining why the vaccine causes more cases now of polio than the natural strain : Mutant Strains Of Polio Vaccine Now Cause More Paralysis Than Wild Polio https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio "That eradication effort has been incredibly successful. In 1988, when the campaign began, there were 350,000 cases of polio around the world each year compared with the six so far this year. Zaffran credits the oral polio vaccine with getting the world incredibly close to wiping out a terrible disease. "Four regions of the world have totally eradicated the disease with the use of the oral polio vaccine," he notes. "Of course we need to recognize that there have been a few cases of children paralyzed because of the vaccine virus, which is regrettable. But, you know, from a public health perspective, the benefits far outweigh the risk." This one, with regards to malaria: First Results of Phase 3 Trial of RTS,S/AS01 Malaria Vaccine in African Children https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa1102287 "Conclusions The RTS,S/AS01 vaccine provided protection against both clinical and severe malaria in African children. " "A malaria vaccine, deployed in combination with current malaria-control tools, could play an important role in future control and eventual elimination of malaria in Africa." Tetanus and fertility vaccine in Africa: https://africacheck.org/fbcheck/25-years-on-rumour-by-us-anti-contraceptive-organisation-still-damages-tetanus-vaccine-programmes/ Bill Gates was not chucked out of India : press release from Indian government : Sorry the direct link doesn't work anymore, but at least you can get to it eventually if you want to check. click on the Press Information Bureau link: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetail.aspx?PRID=1568914 Then write in the date on the left: 8 february 2017, then scroll down underneath through all the other press releases of the day until you get to "press note". It's all in alphabetical order, so easy to find. You will then see on the main window the complete press note. Here's an extract from the end: "Some media reports have suggested that all health related collaboration with the Gates Foundation with National Health Mission (NHM) has been stopped. This is inaccurate and misleading. BMGF continues to collaborate and support the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare."
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  560.  @HEART2HEART369  This is ridiculous. If you people can't understand plain English I can't help you. .... but I'll give it one last try, because I'm stubborn. Deep breath.... Let's look at his exact words: "Now the world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 %, but there we see an increase of about 1.3." 2010 : 6.8 billion people 2020 : around 7.8 billion We are going towards 9 billions (more like 10 or 11 based on the last ten years of data), is indeed the growth projection. He says with vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services, we could decrease the GROWTH (of population) by 10-15%. He doesn't say the word growth but because he spoke of 9 billion in the future compared to 6.8B in 2010, the idea is to perhaps not reach asap this 9B. He mentions a "1.3 value", this is an increase of 1.3 (9billion/6.8billion= 1.32) and what he means is to reduce this 1.3 factor by 10-15% (so reaching 1.13 to 1.18 or so instead of *1.3 growth) E) He continues his exposé to find ways to lower the value of S, E and C in his equation. All the data shows that when you make living conditions better , people CHOOSE to have smaller families. Now, where do I get all this from? I'll give you some sources: Improvement in world health and living conditions : https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/poverty/overview https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy https://www.pnas.org/content/117/10/5250 Stage three demographic transition ( or why population increase slows down with better living conditions): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition#Stage_three The Best stats you’ve ever seen -Hans Rosling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usdJgEwMinM Bill Gates explains concept : does saving more lives lead to overpopulation ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obRG-2jurz0 I know what you're going to say: this data is "biased and comes from Big Pharma". I challenge you to disprove any of it.... with unbiased data. Looking through this thread, not one person has come up with any proof whatsoever. Nobody is even capable of understanding that 9 is bigger than 6.8! So if you're even slightly more intelligent than the others here, you should be able to reply with something other than "watch the Corbett Report", "google it", "do your own research", "wake up sheeple".
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  593. I've made my own predictions, after a few conversations here on youtube, and it goes something like this 100% success rate for the moment): My predicted conversation with any conspiracy theorist: Here's what will happen, if we debate a bit: You'll say "Bill Gates wants to kill half the population, he was chucked out of India, Melinda is a man." I'll ask you for your sources, you'll either say "google it" or "do your own research" or "I don't give links anymore," or « follow the money », or "watch the Corbett report" or you'll just carry on spouting random rubbish. Then I'll give you my sources, which clearly show you're wrong, but you'll refuse to read (yes READ, not watch, sorry!), saying it's all just biased reports paid by "Big Pharma". Conveniently for you, everything which doesn't go in your sense is sponsored by Bill Gates, including me and anyone else who disagrees with you. Since "almost all media" is apparently funded by Gates (funny how it includes media from every single country in the world), except what's on youtube (which is ironic because it's mainly thanks to him that we're on youtube in the first place), it's impossible to provide you with any evidence. Yet you will ask repeatedly, saying mine isn't good enough without giving any yourself. You will spout on about how evil he is, with lots of CAPITAL LETTERS (you're probably catholic, so I can understand that anyone who promotes contraception is evil to you, since you haven't evolved from the Dark Ages), and completely ignore anything I say. When I ask if at the very least you use Linux and not Windows, you won't reply. Am I wrong?
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  980.  @jamesm1736  Here are some papers on the subject, with extracts of the conclusions for those who couldn't be bothered to read all of it: On polio vaccines in India : Correlation between Non-Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis Rates with Pulse Polio Frequency in India https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121585/pdf/ijerph-15-01755.pdf Brief extract of the conclusions : "5. Conclusions The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV. While commending this enormous effort at eradication, our observation supports the hypothesis that the frequency of pulse polio administration is directly or indirectly related to the incidence of NPAFP. It is hoped that this finding will help continue efforts at optimizing the dose schedule of OPV administration and result in a reduction in NPAFP—which is a feasible hope, as the incidence of wild polio is currently at an all-time low." And this one, explaining why the vaccine causes more cases now of polio than the natural strain : Mutant Strains Of Polio Vaccine Now Cause More Paralysis Than Wild Polio https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio "That eradication effort has been incredibly successful. In 1988, when the campaign began, there were 350,000 cases of polio around the world each year compared with the six so far this year. Zaffran credits the oral polio vaccine with getting the world incredibly close to wiping out a terrible disease. "Four regions of the world have totally eradicated the disease with the use of the oral polio vaccine," he notes. "Of course we need to recognize that there have been a few cases of children paralyzed because of the vaccine virus, which is regrettable. But, you know, from a public health perspective, the benefits far outweigh the risk." This one, with regards to malaria: First Results of Phase 3 Trial of RTS,S/AS01 Malaria Vaccine in African Children https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa1102287 "Conclusions The RTS,S/AS01 vaccine provided protection against both clinical and severe malaria in African children. " "A malaria vaccine, deployed in combination with current malaria-control tools, could play an important role in future control and eventual elimination of malaria in Africa."
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  981.  @jamesm1736  Hi, just to get back to you on your comment: It's not me who said this is not the place to debate vaccines, it was another poster. The sly comments about youtube videos is because like you, I'm here looking for interesting debate, so it's frustrating to be sent links to videos which are often either just truncated versions of the original (sometimes even consciously edited to mislead), or random twenty year olds making wild suppositions with nothing to back them up, if it's not the very same type of video. This leads to a closed circuit which helps nobody, and gets the debate nowhere. Youtube videos are of course useful for getting interested in a subject, because they lead (notably through the comments section) to other equally interesting topics. The youtube algorithms tend to guide us towards following the same stream of ideas though, which I hate! I use the comments section to give me the opposite viewpoint, and go on from there. I don't pretend to be an expert on any of this, which is why I don't post videos giving "the truth about evil Bill". As for that equation, don't forget he said the population is 6.8 billion and will go up to 9....doesn't sound like reduction of population to me! He continues afterwards by saying that the INCREASE can be slowed. As for getting one of those factors down to zero; it's the last one: CO2, and that's what this talk is all about: finding alternative energy sources. Maybe he's a monster, maybe not. In any case, my computer runs on Linux!
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  1008.  @islammuradov1970  Here are some fun articles on vaccines for you to consider. It might make you see another side to the story. On polio vaccines in India : Correlation between Non-Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis Rates with Pulse Polio Frequency in India https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121585/pdf/ijerph-15-01755.pdf Brief extract of the conclusions : "5. Conclusions The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV. While commending this enormous effort at eradication, our observation supports the hypothesis that the frequency of pulse polio administration is directly or indirectly related to the incidence of NPAFP. It is hoped that this finding will help continue efforts at optimizing the dose schedule of OPV administration and result in a reduction in NPAFP—which is a feasible hope, as the incidence of wild polio is currently at an all-time low." And this one, explaining why the vaccine causes more cases now of polio than the natural strain : Mutant Strains Of Polio Vaccine Now Cause More Paralysis Than Wild Polio https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio "That eradication effort has been incredibly successful. In 1988, when the campaign began, there were 350,000 cases of polio around the world each year compared with the six so far this year. Zaffran credits the oral polio vaccine with getting the world incredibly close to wiping out a terrible disease. "Four regions of the world have totally eradicated the disease with the use of the oral polio vaccine," he notes. "Of course we need to recognize that there have been a few cases of children paralyzed because of the vaccine virus, which is regrettable. But, you know, from a public health perspective, the benefits far outweigh the risk." This one, with regards to malaria: First Results of Phase 3 Trial of RTS,S/AS01 Malaria Vaccine in African Children https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa1102287 "Conclusions The RTS,S/AS01 vaccine provided protection against both clinical and severe malaria in African children. " "A malaria vaccine, deployed in combination with current malaria-control tools, could play an important role in future control and eventual elimination of malaria in Africa." Tetanus and fertility in Africa: https://africacheck.org/fbcheck/25-years-on-rumour-by-us-anti-contraceptive-organisation-still-damages-tetanus-vaccine-programmes/ Finally, did the Gates Foundation get chucked out of India? No, it didn't. Do I have proof of that? Yes. From the Indian government. Excuse the convoluted link, but it's the only way I know to see the press release they gave, since it has been archived: click on the Press Information Bureau link: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetail.aspx?PRID=1568914 Then write in the date on the left: 8 february 2017, then scroll down underneath through all the other press releases of the day until you get to "press note". It's all in alphabetical order, so easy to find. You will then see on the main window the complete press note. Here's an extract from the end: "Some media reports have suggested that all health related collaboration with the Gates Foundation with National Health Mission (NHM) has been stopped. This is inaccurate and misleading. BMGF continues to collaborate and support the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare."
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  1072. Wow! Getting inundated with links now; way too much to look into today, but I must say I'm happy to see at last some real sources! It took a while... but we've got there in the end! What I've been saying on multiple threads is to stop simply misquoting and citing youtubers, but rather to cite solid evidence from scientific studies, and you've included some here, so no problem with that. Once it gets to that level, I prefer letting the scientists fight it out between themselves. On polio vaccines in India : Correlation between Non-Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis Rates with Pulse Polio Frequency in India https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121585/pdf/ijerph-15-01755.pdf Brief extract of the conclusions : "5. Conclusions The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV. While commending this enormous effort at eradication, our observation supports the hypothesis that the frequency of pulse polio administration is directly or indirectly related to the incidence of NPAFP. It is hoped that this finding will help continue efforts at optimizing the dose schedule of OPV administration and result in a reduction in NPAFP—which is a feasible hope, as the incidence of wild polio is currently at an all-time low." And this one, explaining why the vaccine causes more cases now of polio than the natural strain : Mutant Strains Of Polio Vaccine Now Cause More Paralysis Than Wild Polio https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio "That eradication effort has been incredibly successful. In 1988, when the campaign began, there were 350,000 cases of polio around the world each year compared with the six so far this year. Zaffran credits the oral polio vaccine with getting the world incredibly close to wiping out a terrible disease. "Four regions of the world have totally eradicated the disease with the use of the oral polio vaccine," he notes. "Of course we need to recognize that there have been a few cases of children paralyzed because of the vaccine virus, which is regrettable. But, you know, from a public health perspective, the benefits far outweigh the risk." This one, with regards to malaria: First Results of Phase 3 Trial of RTS,S/AS01 Malaria Vaccine in African Children https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa1102287 "Conclusions The RTS,S/AS01 vaccine provided protection against both clinical and severe malaria in African children. " "A malaria vaccine, deployed in combination with current malaria-control tools, could play an important role in future control and eventual elimination of malaria in Africa."
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  1160.  @karidufano6614  Here's an example of one comment I've posted a few times....not on the same subject (or is it?!) but note the bit about sources: My predicted conversation with any conspiracy theorist: Here's what will happen, if we debate a bit: You'll say "Bill Gates wants to kill half the population, he was chucked out of India, Melinda is a man." I'll ask you for your sources, you'll either say "google it" or "do your own research" or "I don't give links anymore," or « follow the money », or "watch the Corbett report" or you'll just carry on spouting random rubbish. Then I'll give you my sources, which clearly show you're wrong, but you'll refuse to read (yes READ, not watch, sorry!), saying it's all just biased reports paid by "Big Pharma". Conveniently for you, everything which doesn't go in your sense is sponsored by Bill Gates, including me and anyone else who disagrees with you. Since "almost all media" is apparently funded by Gates (funny how it includes media from every single country in the world), except what's on youtube (which is ironic because it's mainly thanks to him that we're on youtube in the first place), it's impossible to provide you with any evidence. Yet you will ask repeatedly, saying mine isn't good enough without giving any yourself. You will spout on about how evil he is, with lots of CAPITAL LETTERS (you're probably catholic, so I can understand that anyone who promotes contraception is evil to you, since you haven't evolved from the Dark Ages), and completely ignore anything I say. When I ask if at the very least you use Linux and not Windows, you won't reply. Am I wrong?
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  1203. Before replying to my comment, which I'm sure you will do being a polite and intelligent person, you'd better read this- it's a post I made a while back, which is knocking around somewhere not too far: My predicted conversation with any conspiracy theorist: Here's what will happen, if we debate a bit: You'll say "Bill Gates wants to kill half the population, he was chucked out of India, Melinda is a man." I'll ask you for your sources, you'll either say "google it" or "do your own research" or "I don't give links anymore," or « follow the money », or "watch the Corbett report" or you'll just carry on spouting random rubbish. Then I'll give you my sources, which clearly show you're wrong, but you'll refuse to read (yes READ, not watch, sorry!), saying it's all just biased reports paid by "Big Pharma". Conveniently for you, everything which doesn't go in your sense is sponsored by Bill Gates, including me and anyone else who disagrees with you. Since "almost all media" is apparently funded by Gates (funny how it includes media from every single country in the world), except what's on youtube (which is ironic because it's mainly thanks to him that we're on youtube in the first place), it's impossible to provide you with any evidence. Yet you will ask repeatedly, saying mine isn't good enough without giving any yourself. You will spout on about how evil he is, with lots of CAPITAL LETTERS (you're probably catholic, so I can understand that anyone who promotes contraception is evil to you, since you haven't evolved from the Dark Ages), and completely ignore anything I say. When I ask if at the very least you use Linux and not Windows, you won't reply. Am I wrong?
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  1309. ​ @johnkerr99  "Most people" know what he is talking about and therefore have not posted comments. Millions have not interpreted like you. You quoted dishonestly because you cut the last bit of the sentence, the "but there we see an increase of about 1.3". You detailed everything up til then.... and then stopped conveniently. Why not finish the equation, where he gets to "C" and says it will be the key element? It really is just simple logic and simple algebra. He says himself that one of the elements needs to be pretty close to zero.... which is "C". Innovating to zero, remember? Title of the talk. Funny how this time you put it in, but not at first. So that is simple logic. 6.8 going up to 9 is an increase, so doesn't bring us any closer to zero. That's exactly what has happened ten years later: we're now at 7.8 billion, so he was right; the population is still increasing.It is dishonest to painstakingly give a detailed time line up to a point and then stop before the end... where all the important part is. You said " One Wish: "... if I could pick a vaccine, which is something I love." Why did you say that? You strung together two things without mentioning that the one wish is not vaccines.It is dishonest to do that, because you know many people will just believe you because it looks detailed (he gives the timeline so it must be true!). Same principle as videos with shock titles but no actual content. Many people don't read beyond headlines. So yes, I call that dishonest. Basically, the only thing you're basing your view on is the Corbett Report, right? That guy is just joining dots that don't necessarily have any reason to be joined. He uses the same tactic of half quotes, leaving out important parts, citing other articles as sources... and is making himself plenty of money with all this. By the way, it's called "Meet Bill Gates".
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  1317.  @johnkerr99  Ok for the point on Zuckerberg. Strange though how everyone criticises Bill Gates for his level of control in the WHO, but now you show me that Monsanto and the WHO are in conflict. From the Global Research article: "However, on 20 March the World Health Organisation reached a decision that strikes at the heart of the company. The WHO’s International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) said that glyphosate was “classified as probably carcinogenic to humans.” This is just one step below the risk designation of “known carcinogen.” Isn't that evidence that just funding something doesn't necessarily make you control it? Even if you take into account that pretty much anything is considered as a "probable carcinogen", including coffee, for example. You seem to reduce the whole argument now to one of media control, so conveniently permitting you to ignore whether there's evidence or not for an occurrence (such as sterilisation with tetanus jabs). If money was really the only driving force, I wonder why homeopathy does not take an even bigger part of the market. After all, it's just sugar and water, so should theoretically be the most profitable "drug" possible. It already holds too big a place in my opinion anyway, but should be a real goldmine... As for the "coincidence" of Event201 being a month before the outbreak, that seems to me as exactly that; coincidence. If it was one year before, or one week, people would say the same thing. The signs have been there for years, it was time to do something. Why consider it suspicious and not lucky? If there was no exercise people would say it was inadmissible to not have done a drill, proof that THEY want to reduce population! Like I said, I go along with what was said, because there's so much stupidity on social media that it is a real concern and has real effects on lives. They were saying that "control" is not good, but that the information needs to get out. What's wrong with that? If you've got some religious nuts saying that Gates is the Antichrist and nobody should be vaccinated against anything, than yes, they need to be called out.
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  1416. On polio vaccines in India : Correlation between Non-Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis Rates with Pulse Polio Frequency in India https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121585/pdf/ijerph-15-01755.pdf Brief extract of the conclusions : "5. Conclusions The polio eradication programme succeeded in drastically reducing the global spread of this disease, which was achieved through the use of immunization with OPV. While commending this enormous effort at eradication, our observation supports the hypothesis that the frequency of pulse polio administration is directly or indirectly related to the incidence of NPAFP. It is hoped that this finding will help continue efforts at optimizing the dose schedule of OPV administration and result in a reduction in NPAFP—which is a feasible hope, as the incidence of wild polio is currently at an all-time low." And this one, explaining why the vaccine causes more cases now of polio than the natural strain : Mutant Strains Of Polio Vaccine Now Cause More Paralysis Than Wild Polio https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio "That eradication effort has been incredibly successful. In 1988, when the campaign began, there were 350,000 cases of polio around the world each year compared with the six so far this year. Zaffran credits the oral polio vaccine with getting the world incredibly close to wiping out a terrible disease. "Four regions of the world have totally eradicated the disease with the use of the oral polio vaccine," he notes. "Of course we need to recognize that there have been a few cases of children paralyzed because of the vaccine virus, which is regrettable. But, you know, from a public health perspective, the benefits far outweigh the risk." This one, with regards to malaria: First Results of Phase 3 Trial of RTS,S/AS01 Malaria Vaccine in African Children https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa1102287 "Conclusions The RTS,S/AS01 vaccine provided protection against both clinical and severe malaria in African children. " "A malaria vaccine, deployed in combination with current malaria-control tools, could play an important role in future control and eventual elimination of malaria in Africa." Tetanus and fertility in Africa: https://africacheck.org/fbcheck/25-years-on-rumour-by-us-anti-contraceptive-organisation-still-damages-tetanus-vaccine-programmes/ Other stuff Bill Gates was not chucked out of India : press release from Indian government : (the direct link to this no longer works, because it looks like they've archived it, but it's still accessible) click on the Press Information Bureau link: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetail.aspx?PRID=1568914 Then write in the date on the left: 8 february 2017, then scroll down underneath through all the other press releases of the day until you get to "press note". It's all in alphabetical order, so easy to find. You will then see on the main window the complete press note. Here's an extract from the end: "Some media reports have suggested that all health related collaboration with the Gates Foundation with National Health Mission (NHM) has been stopped. This is inaccurate and misleading. BMGF continues to collaborate and support the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare." Sorry the direct link doesn't work anymore, but at least you can get to it eventually if you want to check.
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