Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "Trailblazers: Fighting South Korea's spy cam porn - BBC News" video.

스콘느개비 Your English seems fine. But the fact that you refuse to spell "woman" correctly as it has the word "man" in it, makes you sound crazy...
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@Classicscones How are you going to get your message across to people if you keep attacking people? Doesnt that defeat the purpose of what youre doing?
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@constantinvaldor3742 "If you are a man crying about being raped by a woman. You need to harden the f#ck up literally." What if it was a 100kg female body builder and the victim was physically half her size hmmm? Every time you resist you get grabbed in the balls. Hows that for crying?
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@email1976 If I am sensitive, then those that spell woman as "womyn" are even more sensitive. Theyre so sensitive it makes them shake just by associating themselves with anything with the word "man" in it. Crazy if you ask me. I mean, just look at her response. Confirmed crazy.
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@Classicscones And I was right. You have mental issues. Why would anyone in their right mind fear you?
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@Classicscones I have every right to express myself, as do you. Why you trying to silence me? You trying to oppress me? You want to fight against oppression with oppression? Sorry, but youre fighting a losing battle if thats how you want to fight. Again, you dont know my father, nor is he part of this. You sexist? You want to fight sexism with more sexism? Good luck.
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Liban What exactly do you get again? How does spy cams in toilets got to do with trains?
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@rustyworld2365 Uploading pornographic images without permission is indeed a crime. I agree with that. But a picture of someones underwear is not pornographic at all. In fact its not even R rated. How is that a crime. Im not justifying shit. Im saying it shouldnt be a crime to take photos in a public space what ever it may be. This video is about spy cams. In PRIVATE areas. Different story. Im fully against that. But public areas? Everyone has a right to take photos, no matter how controversial it may be.
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@rustyworld2365 No desire for her underwear to be seen doesnt mean it wont be seen. Its not fully covered. Wind blows. It will be shown whether she likes it or not. She chose to wear it because it "looks good" or wants to feel "comfortable". The opportunity cost to that is 100% coverage, and will therefore risk showing her underwear at times. Anyone that wears a skirt make a conscious decision and take that risk knowing their underwear will expose if the wind blows, consensual or not. I'll stand by my point. Public area is public area. Private is private. 2 very different things. And just because it was uploaded to a porn site doesnt mean its porn. I mean you could have just a kissing video uploaded onto a porn site. Doesnt make that porn. As for the legal part. As long as the identity is not shown, the matter of consensual or not does not matter. You can only give consent for you to be shown. If no identity is revealed the law cant protect you, as no one knows its you.
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@email1976 Yes...And you 2 are not real women. Real WOMEN have respect.
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@Classicscones " Yerris And again, no uterus, no opinion" Ahhh so those men that defend women cant have their opinion too right? You do realise almost every country in this world that have women rights were given by men right? If men didnt have opinions for women, you women would still have no rights. You lack respect. Work on yourself first before working for others.
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@내꺼야-z3y Dont use your own countries laws to govern another country. In Asia theres no such thing as "consent". You can record all you want in public areas without asking. Also, in Asia you never ask for "consent" before any sexual advances. If they dont want it theyll let you know. Dont shove your culture down another cultures throat.
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@rustyworld2365 What the fuck is wrong with me? What the fuck is wrong with you. I never said those words. Just because someone supports the notion of arming yourself in public, doesnt mean they support murdering people with it. Likewise, just because I said people should have every right to take photos in public doesnt mean I specifically support the notion of upskirting in public either. I said it shouldnt be a "crime" to take pictures in public regardless of how controversial it may be.
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@slaiyfershin Ignorant about upskirting? You mean ignorant about where youre from and your countrys laws in regards to upskirting. "Wow, I'm sure the underwears were intended to be seen" Not intended. But its not intended for full 100% coverage either. 'If you truly believe in your fairy tale "laws" then please do it yourself OPENLY (why hide when it's legal) and then tell that to the court if you ever get arrested' Why would anyone get arrested? You do realised most countries in this world allow people to photograph in public right? Including upskirts. Its not illegal. Theres only a handful of countries that its illegal in. So its not MY "own logic and laws". Its the whole worlds logic and laws, except a handful.
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@ravik007ggn I could use "spy cams" to record people walking in public areas without people knowing. Just because its a "spy cam" doesnt mean its linked. Ones public, ones private.
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@Somnivers "A private bar is considered a public space because of the clientele" No. A private bar is private property therefore not public. Dont be confused. Also, what you explained doesnt change the fact that people should have the right to film in public. People film people without them knowing everyday. Harassment is a completely different story. Just like freedom of speech. You have the right to express yourself how ever you want. Doesnt matter if its offensive in nature or not. But verbal harassment is a different story.
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@email1976 So Im sensitive and my father is, but 스콘느개비 s not? Women that spell women as "womyn" clearly lack the respect for ALL men as they dont want anything associated with men. Yet youre ok with that? Thats what you call double standards. You are doing exactly what you are fighting against.
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@email1976 Then good luck fighting against the double standards which you yourself is practising. If you cant respect men, how do you expect men to respect you?
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@rustyworld2365 Is it? If youre sitting you cant upskirt. If youre standing, your legs are together. Again, cant upskirt. So how is upskirting common on trains again?
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@rustyworld2365 A crime to take pictures in public of people that consciously chose to wear clothing thats not fully covered? Wow thats news to me. Whats the difference between taking photos of people at the beach in bikinis and upskirting? Thats absurd.
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@rustyworld2365 I dont know about you, but theres no privacy in public spaces. Only personal space. So when you say violation of privacy in a public space, that automatically tells me that thats bullshit. If someone takes a picture of people wearing bikinis on the beach and uploads it to a porn site, is that a crime? That is my question to you. Because I dont see the difference. The scenario is the same, someone taking photo of someone else unknowingly in a public space that is not fully covered.
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@franciscatorres5186 I have input on that. "want to be raped" is not be the correct term to use. "doesnt mind exposing herself and attract wanted/unwanted attention" is the correct term to use.
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 @dondon9734 and women can call them out on them if they want. Im sure there are laws against that that protect women from inappropriate physical touches
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@dondon9734 If they do act violent, thats more charges against them. Plus, although nature made males physically stronger, nature also made males extremely vulnerable in the testes. If worst comes to worst, they can always kick them in the balls and scream for help. But thats besides my point. Laws are there to protect people.
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@Somnivers I appreciate the understanding. Freedom is freedom. Morals is morals. Crimes are crimes. Just because something is immoral doesnt mean it should be a crime. No where in my comments did I state that I support the notion of upskirts in public places. I merely said it shouldnt be a crime. Im all for freedom. But all these people think Im one of those creeps that would do that. Theres real porn for a reason.
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@blueshoes5145 Am I high? Or are you high? Youre just another idiot that think that laws in YOUR country applies to people in OTHER countries. "Plus what someone wears has nothing to do with this" I agree. Did you even read my other comments? "Didnt your mommy or daddy ever teach you this common sense ?" Common sense isnt taught...its common..sense...
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@winterkitten Who said? Why lie?
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자짠! 자짠! "I was roofied at a Korean club many many many many years ago. So...my cousin went and scolded and smacked around the employees at said club for not watching out and protecting me. THAT is how REAL KOREAN MEN behave" So your cousin smacked around innocent employees over an unknown perpetrator. Sounds irrational if you ask me. Thats "real manly" of him. Its not even the job of employees to keep an eye out on their customers drinks. Nothing to be proud of. If this was in any Western country, the employees could file for harassment and win.
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@rustyworld2365 I dont see how it links. Nor is this video about upskirts which isnt porn. This video is about spy cam porn which reveals a womens private parts.
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@blueshoes5145 Yes. Common sense is common sense. It doesnt need to be taught. You might want to use a dictionary before saying "you prove my point". "Common sense is your NATURAL ABILITY to make good judgements and to behave in a practical and sensible way". Natural ability isnt taught. You dont need to be taught that killing is bad. You dont need to be taught to run away from explosions. Its "common sense". "And no it not just my country, I'm talking about korean law as well... This is the case for all educated countries" You do realised most countries in this world allow people to photograph in public right? Including upskirts. Its not illegal. Theres only a handful of countries that its illegal in. Even in the US its legal. If you didnt read my previous comments, Ill say it again here. Freedom is freedom. Morals is morals. Crimes are crimes. Just because something is immoral doesnt mean it should be a crime. No where in my comments did I state that I support the notion of upskirts in public places. I merely said it shouldnt be a crime.
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@powershin12 wth is that? Is that new? since when?
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@powershin12 Since 2007? But my Korean friends are able to watch them in Korea. I dont think they knew about VPN back then
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@email1976 Why do you keep mentioning my father? You have a fetish for old men now? Again, you dont know my father, nor is he part of this. You sexist? You want to fight sexism with more sexism? Good luck.
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@Classicscones I dont help PEOPLE like you. I help REAL women that have respect.
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@musammatakter3278 Again. Dont use your countries laws to govern other countries. Its not a crime in 95% of this worlds countries. Im defending the notion of freedom in public spaces, not the notion of upskirting itself. Like Im defending the notion of freedom of speech, not verbal harassment. Understand?
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@Starfire10982 Read carefully. I meant asking consent towards sexual advances. Which Asian country has the culture of "asking for consent" before advancing sexually?
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@Starfire10982 Are you serious? Japan is one of the WORST offenders for non-consensual sexual advances. Sexual harassment is among the highest in Japan compared to other countries around the world, not just Asia. Im not talking about laws, Im talking about CULTURE. Its Japanese CULTURE for women do not verbally consent to sexual advances, as is for men to not verbally ask for consent before sexual advances. What are YOU saying? "There are explicit laws in Asia, or do you think that men can go around touching women sexually how they like?" Thats exactly whats happening in Japan. Men touching women inappropriately and getting away with it. Because theres a CULTURE of women accepting it and not reporting it.
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@Starfire10982 "I stand corrected" You stand corrected? That Asians have a culture of "asking for consent" before advancing sexually? Then there must not be any sexual harassment in these countries at all then. Because afterall, they have a culture for "asking for consent" before making sexual advances right? What a fool you must be for saying you "stand corrected" when youre completely wrong. Sexual harassment is like the norm in Japan. Everyone there personally knows many women that have experienced it. "They have sexual consent laws as to what is and what is not allowed" Wrong. Japan’s rape laws make no mention of "consent". https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/29/world/asia/japan-rape.html "I mean at least you finally admit one thing correctly about unwanted sexual advances" Admit? Learn some more English will you? Since when can someone confess to something thats not related to them? Did you just "admit" that men can get up to 5 years in prison for rape in Korean? "Your comments about upskirting were extremely troubling" I support freedom of speech, does that mean I support verbal harassment? Likewise, I support freedom of photography in public places, does that mean I specifically support the notion of upskirting? Freedom is freedom. Morals is morals. Crime is crime. Just because something is immoral doesnt mean it should be a crime. "A lot of them are not taken seriously and women who report get blamed...It’s situations like these that women DON’T report these men because in the end they know it’ll be their fault even if it wasn’t" Glad to know that you ADMIT that NON-CONSENSUAL sexual advances do happen in Japan. "So yeah, you tell me why women in Asia aren’t reporting their rape/sexual assault cases" Here are some direct quotes from Japanese people interviewed on the topic of sexual harassment. 'Japanese people dont say those things out loud' 'Shed be thinking about her position in the company' 'Women would choose to stay silent so that they can climb up the corporate ladder' 'Itd be too embarrassing to say it out loud. And even if they did they might feel like theyd be bullied even more' 'Lose face' Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Atb0LWa67w
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@ericaugusto758 Its immoral. But just because something is immoral doesnt mean its a crime. Cheating is also immoral, should that be a crime as well? "intentionally taking a picture of a personal/sexual parts of the body without consent (which is covered)" For upskirting, underwear is covering the sexual parts. Its equivalent as someone wearing bikinis on the beach is covering their sexual parts as well. In the public space, consent isnt needed. You can record as you please in public spaces. The only time when consent is needed is when the photographer publishes them somewhere where their identity is shown, otherwise they can be sued - assuming thats the law of the country.
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@Starfire10982 Touche. "I stand corrected".
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@ericaugusto758 Again, you, like other people are using laws in your country to govern other countries. "The problem is the intention and content of said recording , u cant deny the intention is sexual and its just a sexual misconduct The intention matters here" Same could be said for taking photos at the beach. If someone gets off at women wearing bikinis because it shows so much skin. Is he meant to go to jail for that? His intentions was to get off from it afterall. He didnt touch them, nor the layer of any part of their clothing. Same for upskirting. If you watched the video, the guys upskirting also didnt touch parts of the womens clothing when filming. What do you have to say about that? "i think we both knew damn well that those people have the intention of recording the sexual parts anyway" Everyone would assume someone wearing a skirt would be wearing an underwear. If her sexual parts are covered by an underwear, why do you say "we both know damn well" that those people have the intention of recording their COVERED sexual parts? "If i was 1, those terrorist can actually put me in jail if they didnt gave consent" As far as I know, you didnt PUBLICLY publish it. You handed over the recording to law enforcements in a private setting. And even if they did publicly broadcast the video, their face will be blurred (assuming thats the privacy law of that country).
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@okokoklalala844 You have a wicked sense of humour then. Freedom isnt meant to be "hilarious".
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@CookiesTriedToEatMe "sound like something a potential rapist would say tbh" So youve met a rapist? How do you know what rapist would say? Do you watch videos of rapist and what they say? Im not sure what you mean by "those clothes", but a lot (not all) of women do wear sexy revealing clothes for attention.
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@okokoklalala844 Yes, upskirting is as pornographic as taking pictures of bikinis. Its covering the exact same private parts those as those that wear bikinis.
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@okokoklalala844 Upskirting on face value is showing the exact same thing as bikinis. Covered private parts. Do you think pictures of bikinis is porn?
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@okokoklalala844 In porn, intention doesnt matter. Saying intention matters when it comes to porn content is dumb.
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@ericaugusto758 "if you are really that strict on jurisdiction area then why do we argue in the 1st place? I never tried to enforce my countries laws onto another country. Its everyone else on this thread that is. 'we talk about "should/shouldnt" it be a crime not about "is it actually a crime on said area"' And I made my point very clear in this case. There is no such thing as privacy in a public area. And everyone should have ever right to take pictures in public area, no matter how controversial. That is what freedom is. And also the "cost" of freedom. Same goes for freedom of speech. Theres "costs" to that is well. "the difference is those girls on beaches ALLOW people to take photo of them hence why they are using those attire in public, on the other hand "upskirting" isnt" I walk about of my house with my face shown everyday. Doesnt mean I "allow" people to take photos of me. But they have every RIGHT to.
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@Mimi-mq2wj "so it's okay for someone to be upskirted. You must do it. That's what you're defending it" So someone that supports gay marriage, must be homosexual? Someone that supports democracy, must from from a democratic country? Someone that supports freedom of speech, must be someone that makes sexual/racist remarks at someone? Just because some supports freedom, does mean they "support" the negative consequences of it.
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@Mimi-mq2wj Seems like you dont comprehend logic very well. I support freedom. And like everything, freedom comes with a cost. Upskirting in public is something that freedom allows. Just like freedom of speech allows cursing people and saying racist things. I dont support racism, but I support freedom of speech, which allows one to say racist things. Get it?
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