Comments by "Yerris" (@yerri5567) on "Taiwan denounces mainland China for ‘over the top’ flights into island’s air defence zone" video.

  1. Just to be clear, Taiwan designated HALF of their Airforce Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ) to be in mainland China...
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  2. China flying within China is already "violating" their airspace...
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  3.  @christychovalloor9871  So why bother designating their airspace on top of mainland China then? Is that not a sign of "provocation"? What Taiwan also claim mainland China to be making?
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  4.  @christychovalloor9871  "China has Abused and Provocated Taiwan from the day ROC fled to the island" Have you ever wondered why PRC came into power? Its becaus ROC abused and provacated its citizens. "Not a big deal you talking about" Its also not a big deal that PLA sent war planes over the seas. Just like its not a big deal when aircraft carriers and other warships travel into the Taiwan strait too. Also, these "provocative" planes didnt even fly towards Taiwan.
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  5.  @christychovalloor9871  "you are actually comparing An ADIZ imaginary Place for identifying planes" Thats not regulated by any international bodies, hence not protected by international law. "To WAR PLANES that have a definite meaning for another country which is typically bad based on history between them" What do you have to say about warships and aircraft carriers that pass by the same location?
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  6. jchien I believe peaceful talks have been attempted? Multiple times? Over many decades? If none of that works, what next?
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  7.  @christychovalloor9871  "look closely" Read between the lines. You say countries will slowly recognise Taiwan (even though most countries have now done the opposite) and advocate for Xinjiang and Tibet independence, yet once they realise that Taiwan also consider Xinjiang and Tibet as part of its territory, that will no longer be the case. Hence why I say you have no idea what youre on about. Moreover, ROC/PRC didnt "invade" Xinjiang and Tibet. Xinjiang and Tibet had always been LEGALLY part of China as per the sovereign handover from Qing China to Republic of China.
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  8.  @jchien  "You talk more" If none of the talk works over the decades work, you talk more? For how many more decades? Centuries? Millenniums? War is the only answer if talks dont work. I mean, the Chinese civil war has not technically ended yet. There was no peace treaty signed. "and in the process destroy the lives and livelihood of millions of Chinese" Not if its a quick war where one military completely dominates the other military. "all talk of one people with common heritage is bogus" Who said that those of common heritage cant have war? "An act of war of conquest can only be done to a people viewed as "the other," inferior group" Who said that? Conquest can be against the same people. They may see the other party as militarily inferior, but "people"? You made that up yourself.
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  9.  @christychovalloor9871  "Tibet was Independent from 1912 - 1950 and PRC came to power on 1 October 1949" Tibet had been part of Republic of China ever since 1912. Its clearly written in the sovereign transfer from Qing China to Republic of China. Tibets so-called "independence" was illegal. "and PRC invaded it" Invaded? Then by your logic, PRC "invaded" all of China. And by extension, every single civil war on this planet is an "invasion"? Why dont you say Tibetans "invaded" Republic of China? "Formal ties are happening with TAIWAN" Fake news. Name me one country that is forging new formal diplomatic ties with Taiwan. "japan who doesn't recognise TAIWAN has sworn it will defend it" More fake news. When did Japan "swear" they will defend Taiwan? They merely had talks or "hinted" if the US calls upon it. You need to get your facts straight.
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  10.  @christychovalloor9871  "Each country has a specific area through which another country can only go through by permission CHINA violated this" No such thing. You dont know what youre talking about. The only territory that is not permitted to be entered under international law is within 12 nautical miles from that countrys border. Tell me, which country did China travel within 12 NM of their borders? "but more than 100 planes by 1/2 year" Thats not within 12NM of their borders. Hence not in violation of international law. "now thats more serious and alarming" You realise most powerful countries to the same thing right? US, Russia, China, etc all do it. Every party knows about it its not even a secret. And its NOT in any way violating international law.
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  11.  @codingamul7468  "why do china has port in sri-lanka and only chinese are allowed to go there" Ever heard of private property?
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  12.  @christychovalloor9871  "slowly countries will start Recognizing TAIWAN and advocate for XINJIANG and TIBET independence because CHINA invaded those (COMMUNIST not ROC)" Errr you have no idea what youre on about. ROC claims both Xinjiang AND Tibet as part of their territory. Its clearly written in their constitution
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  13.  @archingelus  "wow did you learn ww2 history from reeducation camps? 😂 that is very black and white take of a complex mess of political history" WW2? I spoke nothing about WW2. Why you making baseless assumptions over a topic that I spoke nothing about?
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  14.  @TheTwh415  "they're already a de facto State. Only the mainland wants a war with them" That claims to be "China". And if mainland China wanted "war" as you claim, they would hav already invaded by now, instead of having talks for decades. "and what's so bad about an independent Taiwan? They already have an independent government, independent diplomacy and an independent army". "Taiwan" isnt "independent". Republic of China is. Theres a difference. Taiwan is just a mere province of Republic of China. ROC claims mainland China as their own as well. Both PRC and ROC agree that there can only be 1 China, and they are the legitimate ruler of that China. Thats whats "bad".
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  15.  @TheTwh415  "Ok so now they disagree, let's separate then" Except they dont disagree. ROC constitutions still clearly includes mainland China as theirs. And PRC still claims Taiwan as theirs. "What makes you think that you have the right to decide Taiwanese people's fate? The fate of Taiwan should be in the hands of the people who live there" It is up to the people of the COUNTRY to determine what happens to a city/province in their country. Not up to the people in the city/province to determine what happens to them. Otherwise I could say, what happens in my block of land is under my own jurisdiction, Im not subjected to laws and regulations of my "country". Its using your pretext of "what makes you think that you have the right to decide" my fate. Sound fair?
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  16. @UCX-_MaKodqhChPgp2LF1AgA "Just to be clear, Yerris also believes nothing happened at Tiananmen in 1989" Just to be clear, that was a baseless assumption.
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  17.  @christychovalloor9871  "Japan HAS sworn to defend TAIWAN if an invasion occurs dont you know the current affairs" Oh yeh? Find me the announce. Bet you cant. The closest thing to any defence of Taiwan is IF the US calls upon it. Thats not called "sworn". Sworn does not comes with conditions like "only if the US joins". "and you are very wrong about TIBET and XINJIANG" This is a matter of legality. The sovereignty of Tibet and Xinjiang is legaly transferred to Republic of China. Its written in black and white. Cant be "wrong" about that.
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  18.  @somedudeonline1936  "meanwhile prc is commiting genocide as we speak" meanwhile people are being brainwashed as we speak
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  19.  @jchien  "Any war requires dehumanizing the opposing group. Even in civil war, you dehumanize, vilify and turn the other group into sub-human" Thats your opinion, not a fact. "if talk doesn't work, then you have two separate political systems for Chinese people across the strait" In the beginning that may be fine. But over time there will be a push to become 2 separate countries. Look, nowadays, Taiwan youths dont identify as Chinese and want to be independent from China. From this, we can see that this option is not a long term solution.
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  20.  @TheTwh415  "the solution is not going to war, the solution is to let it be" Let Taiwan youths grow up identifying themselves as not Chinese and advocate for independence? Then war resumes?
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  21.  @TheTwh415  "Tell me something, if it's one country then why can't the Mainland choose the leader of Taiwan then?" I literally just said '"Taiwan" isnt "independent". Republic of China is. Theres a difference. Taiwan is just a mere province of Republic of China. ROC claims mainland China as their own as well. Both PRC and ROC agree that there can only be 1 China, and they are the legitimate ruler of that China' 2 independent states claiming to be the legitimate ruler of this "One China". Civil war has technically not ended yet. There is no peace treaty signed. Its a "war-in-progress". That is why theres a division of territories in the same country.
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  22. Eiman Danial Did you know Taiwan claims to be the legitimate ruler of China?
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  23.  @nexu6517  Did you also know that Taiwan youths want to be independent from the country they claim to be, China?
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  24.  @TheTwh415  "so you just agreed that the idea of one country is just a concept that has no practical meaning then?" I dont agree nor disagree. It is what it is. Its civil war in-progress. Just theres a prolonged ceasefire. So theres bound to be 2 states claiming to be the same country.
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  25.  @TheTwh415  Errr I never said thats the "reason" for the war? You seem to have trouble comprehending what Im saying...Its happened more than twice now
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  26.  @TheTwh415  Yeh you really do have trouble comprehending English. My comment was obviously in DIRECT response to your comment "THAT is no reason for war", in which was in DIRECT response to my comment "theres bound to be 2 states claiming to be the same country". You dont use the word "that" out of no where over a point 20+ comments back without any recent reference. "and who's sons and daughters do you want to send so they can fight and die for your war? Or do you want to do it all by yourself?" Irrelevant. And trying to make this personal are we? There wont be any "war" if an agreement is reached. Since we all know ROC will lose the war if there is a war, and will cease to exist anyway, why not just admit defeat and save lives?
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  27. ​ @TheTwh415  "ha, now who's in denial lol. My comments were always about you mentioning the war as a solution" Denial? Its a matter of English. When someone says "that is..." out of no where it refers to their most recent conversation/comment. Not comments literally 20 comments back. And you have the audacity to say I cant read... "So according to you, whenever a powerful authoritarian regime comes to destroy a democratic state, people should just give up is it?" I never asserted that. It was YOU that was concerned with lives lost so I ASKED you. If a state doesnt want to surrender in a war, then lives will be lost. Its literally logic. Not "MY" assertion. Understand? You can fight all you want. Just understand the longer a war drags on the more people will die. Also, wars have nothing to do with "authoritarian" or "democratic" forms of governments. It could literally go either way. "You have no regard for international rules What "international rules" does PRC have to abide by in regards to a domestic (civil war) issue? "and to you, being the stronger bully can never be wrong" Again, I never said that. You keep making things up and putting words in my mouth. "People dying in war is irrelevant to you hen?" More incomprehensibility of the English language. I said its irrelevant because you got PERSONAL with me. And its not "my" war. Im neither from PRC or ROC. "You claim to be one country with Taiwan but you don't mind them getting wiped out to achieve your imperial ambitions, and you don't even care about your brethren getting killed for a senseless war" More baseless assumptions. I didnt claim to be one country with Taiwan. I also didnt saying anything about not minding the people being "wiped out". I also dont have brethrens in PRC nor ROC. See how big of a fool you are when you cant read English properly? You literally start making things up in your head. "Why don't you go fight this war yourself and not dragging the innocent people down the drain with your brain dead solution" Who said Im calling for war? Who said "innocent" people will die? Those in the military of a government claiming the whole of China is "innocent"? Whats your solution? "Let it be"? I already told you how that solution doesnt work.
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  28. ​ @TheTwh415  Trying to get personal again?
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  29.  @TheTwh415  Someone young can rebut your claims so many times? Someone dumb can call you out on your poor English so many times? Im not the one making things up and putting words in peoples mouths here.
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  30.  @archingelus  So what are you trying to say? Make it clear. What point dont you agree with?
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  31.  @goldenmitaine4629  "by mainland china you mean just normal china right?" PRC
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  32.  @archingelus  "well then share with me how ROC and PRC come to existance? So i can be proven wrong of my accusation :)" Whats your accusation? Do be specific. Im not going to write a 10k word comment just to give you a history lesson...
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  33.  @archingelus  10k words is already summarised. Be specific
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  34.  @somedudeonline1936  What are you trying to say? Say something. Youre not mute. That satellite imagery of new buildings equates to proof of "concentration camps"? Every country has new buildings built... That pictures of actual prisoners mean "concentration camp"? Every country has actual prisoners. Why dont you take pictures of Black inmates in the US and say Blacks are being put into "concentration camps"...
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  35.  @somedudeonline1936  And all those "testimonies", those arent "evidence". Most of them changed their story from the beginning to the end because their initial story werent getting headlines. Just like Tursunay Ziawudun's story. Initially she said she wasnt "beaten nor abused". Then she wasnt getting what she wanted she changed her story to being "r@ped" and "brutally punished"...wow...Just wow... And for every "testimony" you can find against China on this matter, I could probably find x10 the amount of testimony FOR China on this matter.
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  36.  @somedudeonline1936  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URhPWt2K4Uw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS4slWZQJxs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQxjFCh5zU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDCVYsEzOT4
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  37. ichinogaya Taiwan claims to be the country called China. Its written very clearly in their constitution. I mean, what other country can Republic of CHINA be?
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